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    Quote Originally Posted by Right Divider View Post
    Quit crying like a little baby and support your posts with SCRIPTURE.

    I don't recall seeing you provide SCRIPTURE to support these wild claims.
    You prove it will not go well when you start off insulting me. I am not crying. If I did cry it would not be like a baby it would be like a grown adult.
    Oh how I love the Word of God!
    Do not just read the word do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    You prove it will not go well when you start off insulting me. I am not crying. If I did cry it would not be like a baby it would be like a grown adult.
    Quit crying like a grown adult and provide SCRIPTURE to support your claim.
    Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
    (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    They can't compete with a real writer and grammar scholar
    Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

    Has Amos 9:15 been cancelled?

    Eph 2:8-9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:8) For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God: (2:9) Not of works, lest any man should boast.

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    Everything that was ever made was made through Jesus.

    Adam and Eve sinned and were banished.

    Jesus came to reconcile all and put us back in him.
    Oh how I love the Word of God!
    Do not just read the word do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    I know I said Jesus was never separated from the Father.

    Pay attention.

    I will say it again, Jesus was never separated from his Father and Jesus never died Spiritually.
    Death is separation. I think we've established that. If you have any argument against that, then you need to establish that death is something different.

    What does "forsake" mean?

    And about the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, “Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?” that is, “My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?” - Matthew 27:46 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...6&version=NKJV





    So, if Jesus didn't really mean "Why have you (God the Father) forsaken me," why did He say it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    Everything that was ever made was made through Jesus.

    Adam and Eve sinned and were banished.

    Jesus came to reconcile all and put us back in him.
    What in the world does that have to do with anything we're talking about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    Everything that was ever made what made through Jesus.
    Well the LORD Jesus Christ being GOD... of course. Nothing to do with "His body".

    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    Adam and Eve sinned and were banished.
    Irrelevant and does NOT address the point that I HIGHLIGHTED earlier.

    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    Jesus came to reconcile all and put us back in him.
    Vague and does NOT address the point that I HIGHLIGHTED earlier.

    Where is the SCRIPTURE?

    Your opinions are useless.
    Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
    (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    They can't compete with a real writer and grammar scholar
    Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

    Has Amos 9:15 been cancelled?

    Eph 2:8-9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:8) For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God: (2:9) Not of works, lest any man should boast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JudgeRightly View Post
    What in the world does that have to do with anything we're talking about?
    Exactly.... she and SO many others here cannot even discuss a topic without ignoring the content and going off on their own vain opinions.
    Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
    (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

    Quote Originally Posted by Interplanner View Post
    They can't compete with a real writer and grammar scholar
    Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

    Has Amos 9:15 been cancelled?

    Eph 2:8-9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:8) For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God: (2:9) Not of works, lest any man should boast.

    The list: http://theologyonline.com/entry.php?...quot-list-quot Great Bible software: http://www.theword.net/

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    Quote Originally Posted by JudgeRightly View Post
    Death is separation. I think we've established that.
    No, it is not separation.

    Quote Originally Posted by JudgeRightly View Post

    If you have any argument against that, then you need to establish that death is something different.
    Sin separates us from God. Jesus did not sin.
    Quote Originally Posted by JudgeRightly View Post

    What does "forsake" mean?

    And about the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, “Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?” that is, “My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?” - Matthew 27:46

    So, if Jesus didn't really mean "Why have you (God the Father) forsaken me," why did He say it?
    That is about Jesus suffering and dying and not being rescued by God---except Jesus knew he would not be rescued from suffering and dying because he laid down his life for us.
    Oh how I love the Word of God!
    Do not just read the word do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JudgeRightly View Post
    What in the world does that have to do with anything we're talking about?
    I was asked. You have a hard time debating don't you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Right Divider View Post
    Exactly.... she and SO many others here cannot even discuss a topic without ignoring the content and going off on their own vain opinions.
    Are you kidding? You ASKED me about that.

    Who am I debating here? So many of you want to be teachers and dividers of the word but you don't have the mental capacity to do so do you?
    Oh how I love the Word of God!
    Do not just read the word do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Right Divider View Post
    Well the LORD Jesus Christ being GOD... of course. Nothing to do with "His body".


    Irrelevant and does NOT address the point that I HIGHLIGHTED earlier.


    Vague and does NOT address the point that I HIGHLIGHTED earlier.

    Where is the SCRIPTURE?

    Your opinions are useless.
    I have to go for now. I have all the scriptures to prove my beliefs; but, what good will it do you to see the scriptures? You don't even remember that you asked me about it and you gave JR thanks for not knowing what I was talking about and why.

    I hope when I get back you will have reread and thought about it all more carefully.
    Oh how I love the Word of God!
    Do not just read the word do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    No, it is not separation.
    Then please, by all means, define what death is.

    Sin separates us from God. Jesus did not sin.
    No one is saying He sinned.

    But Scripture DOES say that Jesus became sin for us.

    For He [God the Father] made Him who knew no sin [God the Son, Jesus] to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him. - 2 Corinthians 5:21 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...1&version=NKJV

    So, if Jesus did not sin, but instead became sin for us, would that not be what would separate Him from the Father?

    That is about Jesus suffering and dying and not being rescued by God
    I assure you, it is not. See above.

    ---except Jesus knew he would not be rescued from suffering and dying because he laid down his life for us.
    Of course He did. But that doesn't mean that God didn't forsake Him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clete View Post
    Right!

    And I understand that there is such thing as a depraved mind. The only thing I was guarding against is the idea that sound reason somehow works differently for human beings than it does for anyone else, including God. Understanding is understanding. As human beings, ee may have limited information, intelligence and wisdom compared to God but the process of thought still works the same and the concept of understanding is identical. The difference is only in degree not type.

    Clete
    Amen...made in the image of God, are we not? Thanks for you input, Clete. This is a big subject.

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    Quote Originally Posted by popsthebuilder View Post
    We aren't to call any fool.

    We are to regard our enemy as our brother.

    What good comes from calling a friend brother and casting away an enemy?


    You are yet another who seems to have zero faith in the actual teachings of the Christ of GOD.

    Regardless of if you care about what I feel or not; it is indeed, disheartening to me and should be to any other believer.
    You do not yet know the Lord Jesus Christ, do you, Pops?

    You are but a seeker who refuses to listen.

    Matthew 23:17 Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gold, or the temple that sanctifieth the gold?

    Luke 11:40 Ye fools, did not he that made that which is without make that which is within also?

    Luke 24:25 Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:

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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    You do not yet know the Lord Jesus Christ, do you, Pops?

    You are but a seeker who refuses to listen.

    Matthew 23:17 Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gold, or the temple that sanctifieth the gold?

    Luke 11:40 Ye fools, did not he that made that which is without make that which is within also?

    Luke 24:25 Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:
    Just because Jesus refered to the Pharisees and sadducees as fool doesn't mean we are to call any fool.

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