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    Quote Originally Posted by drbrumley View Post
    Earth to @GodsTruth

    So I said



    Your answer is UNLESS!

    So where do you put the unless? If you say you are saved, it is absolutely going to show up in your life. Unless?

    You are going to be keeping the commandments of God. Unless?

    You do not keep the commandments of God in order to be saved; you keep the commandments of God because you are saved. Unless?
    Jesus doesn't say 'you will because you are saved'!

    Jesus says 'unless' and 'if'.

    We have to obey to get saved, and to stay saved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drbrumley View Post
    This is EXACTLY the teaching of Meshak....the only difference between you two, oh wait, you hate Trinitarians also. So nevermind.
    Learn to be respectful and truthful when you debate others.

    You are the one like Meshak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    Jesus doesn't say 'you will because you are saved'!

    Jesus says 'unless' and 'if'.

    We have to obey to get saved, and to stay saved.
    Did Judas lose His salvation?
    If any of my views seem to be strange or new to you, it is to be hoped that you will not close your mind to them, but will emulate the noble Bereans, and not only read and study the chapters would discuss, but will also search the Scriptures to see whether these things be so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drbrumley View Post
    Did Judas lose His salvation?
    I do not think he ever had salvation.
    He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose.

    Jim Elliot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bright Raven View Post
    I do not think he ever had salvation.
    Exactly. Judas was never saved.....And neither were those who fell away. Or as godstruth says, doesn't obey. Judas

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    Quote Originally Posted by drbrumley View Post
    Exactly. Judas was never saved.....And neither were those who fell away. Or as godstruth says, doesn't obey. Judas

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    Wow, okay, are you now agreeing with me? Judas did not obey. Good example of how we have to obey.

    But wait, you said neither were those saved who fell away. Now that is where you get off track.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drbrumley View Post
    Did Judas lose His salvation?
    Judas was a thief and kept being a thief when he was with Jesus.

    So he did not fall away or lose what he never had.

    We have to repent of our sins to be saved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    Judas was a thief and kept being a thief when he was with Jesus.

    So he did not fall away or lose what he never had.

    We have to repent of our sins to be saved.
    Matthew 27:3-4 KJV
    (3) Then Judas, which had betrayed him, when he saw that he was condemned, repented himself, and brought again the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders,
    (4) Saying, I have sinned in that I have betrayed the innocent blood. And they said, What is that to us? see thou to that.

    "The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name." Exodus 15:3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tambora View Post
    Matthew 27:3-4 KJV
    (3) Then Judas, which had betrayed him, when he saw that he was condemned, repented himself, and brought again the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders,
    (4) Saying, I have sinned in that I have betrayed the innocent blood. And they said, What is that to us? see thou to that.
    Ooooops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tambora View Post
    Matthew 27:3-4 KJV
    (3) Then Judas, which had betrayed him, when he saw that he was condemned, repented himself, and brought again the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders,
    (4) Saying, I have sinned in that I have betrayed the innocent blood. And they said, What is that to us? see thou to that.
    Right, and it was because he "believed not" that he wasn't saved.

    John 6:64 But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drbrumley View Post
    Ooooops.

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    And we all know GT's definition of "repented" means "stopped sinning".

    So here is how GT's theology would read:

    (3) Then Judas, which had betrayed him, when he saw that he was condemned, stopped sinning, and brought again the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders,

    "The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name." Exodus 15:3

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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    Learn to be respectful and truthful when you debate others.
    Says the Biggest HYPOCRITE on TOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    Wow, okay, are you now agreeing with me? Judas did not obey. Good example of how we have to obey.

    But wait, you said neither were those saved who fell away. Now that is where you get off track.
    Oh, but I am not off track. Judas didn't obey cause he didn't know Jesus. For if he knew Jesus, he COULD NOT disobey to the point of losing his salvation. It's really not that complicated GT.
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    Take this to heart GT

    Somebody once said, if you could have it and not know it, you could lose it and not miss it. But the truth is, if you have salvation, you know it; and if you have it and know it, you can never lose it.
    If any of my views seem to be strange or new to you, it is to be hoped that you will not close your mind to them, but will emulate the noble Bereans, and not only read and study the chapters would discuss, but will also search the Scriptures to see whether these things be so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tambora View Post
    Matthew 27:3-4 KJV
    (3) Then Judas, which had betrayed him, when he saw that he was condemned, repented himself, and brought again the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders,
    (4) Saying, I have sinned in that I have betrayed the innocent blood. And they said, What is that to us? see thou to that.
    That scripture does NOT say Judas was saved. That scripture says Judas repented after he realized what he had done. When a person repents of their sins, they have to believe that they are forgiven. Obviously Judas did not and could not believe it, and so devastated, he hung himself.

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