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    According to Jesus Christ's testimony as a credible expert witness in all
    matters pertaining to the afterlife; most of the world's responsible souls
    haven't been making it to safety when they cross over to the other side.

    †. Luke 13:22-24 . . And he went through the cities and villages, teaching,
    and journeying toward Jerusalem. Then said one unto him, master, are there
    few that be saved? And he said unto them: Strive to enter in at the strait
    gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.

    †. Matt 7:13-14 . . Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and
    broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But
    small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find
    it.

    †. Matt 22:14 . . For many are called, but few are chosen.

    Webster's defines "many" as consisting of, or amounting to, a large but
    indefinite number; while "few" is defined as consisting of, or amounting to,
    only a small number; viz: relative to many then, few is the lesser. Bear with
    me while I flesh this out.

    According to the US Census Bureau: as of Oct 30, 2015 @ 05:25 pm EST,
    the resident population in the United States was approximately 322,063,004
    with a death rate of approximately one every 12 seconds; which translates
    to an average of 7,200 American deaths of all ages, races, and genders
    during just one 24-hour calendar day.

    According to 2009 US Census data; roughly 27.3% of America's daily deaths
    are under the age of 19, which would indicate that approximately 5,234 of
    the current daily death rate of 7,200 per 24 hours are adults. Giving the
    "many" the benefit of the doubt by limiting their maximum percentage to
    51%, would indicate a minimum of 2,669 American adults transferring to
    perdition every day: which translates to roughly 111 per hour.

    That's a very conservative estimate as Jesus Christ didn't really specify exact
    percentages to represent the quantities of "few" and "many". But just think:
    by the time CBS completes its half hour evening news report, a bare-bones
    minimum of 55 Americans become new arrivals in the fiery sector of the
    netherworld.

    Using the ratio of 2,669 condemned souls per 322,063,004 population:
    computing the number of condemned souls worldwide from a currently
    estimated global population of 7,282,560,862 people, would suggest
    something like 60,352 new arrivals in the fiery sector of the netherworld
    every 24 hours; which translates to approximately 2,515 souls every sixty
    minutes on the clock.

    That rate would fill the 51,800 seats of the new Yankee Stadium to capacity
    in roughly 20 hours and 36 minutes. In other words: if the world's daily
    number of condemned souls started filing into the stadium at 06:00 am this
    morning, then by 02:36 am tomorrow, the stadium would be full to capacity.

    Christmas and New Year's are even worse. A study done of 26 years of
    death certificates shows that coronary fatalities are, on average, 11.9%
    higher on those days than any other days of the year; with non-heart deaths
    spiking to 12.2% higher.

    Traditional Christianity's hell never closes; no, not at all: it's open for
    business 24/7/365 nonstop and indifferent to global warming, Wall Street
    crashes, massive layoffs, outsourcing, high school shootings, terrorism,
    tsunamis, earthquakes, nuclear meltdowns, air, water, and soil pollution,
    freeway pile-ups, brown-outs, threatened species, gasoline prices, student
    debt, GMO, trade deficits, protests, Federal debt, factory recalls,
    overpopulation, desertification, genocides, revolutions, civil wars, acid rain,
    road rage, oil spills, conscious decoupling, ISIS, gay marriage, Obamacare,
    blood diamonds, fracking, twerking, and/or the California drought.

    If traditional Christianity's perception of Jesus Christ and the hereafter is
    correct; then it's apparent that souls never stop cascading into the pits of
    hell in an endless procession like the unbelievable millions of poultry broilers
    passing annually through Tyson chicken-processing plants on their way to
    Wendy's, McDonalds, Carl's Junior, Jack in the Box, Burger King, In'n'Out
    Burger, KFC, A&W, Arby's, Dairy Queen, Taco Bell, et al; and to
    supermarkets and restaurants all over the USA and wherever else Tyson
    vends its meats. The slaughtering and the butchering never stop.

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    He did not answer the question directly, he told the asker to mind what he himself was about.

    The fact is you cain't help somebody onto the strait road until you yourself are on it. Like John Wesley, as soon as he found the road which leads to life he was out after the MULTITUDE who were on the broad road.

    If the scripture is to be answered as you say how come John saw a multitude in heaven which no man could number?

    According to your stats people can be numbered, but of the redeemed says John, no man could number them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Totton Linnet View Post
    If the scripture is to be answered as you say how come John saw a multitude
    in heaven which no man could number? According to your stats people can
    be numbered, but of the redeemed says John, no man could number
    them.
    †. Rev 7:9 . . I looked and there before me was a great multitude that no
    one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language, standing
    before the throne and in front of the Lamb. They were wearing white robes
    and were holding palm branches in their hands.

    A very similar idiom is used in the book of Genesis where God instructed
    Abraham to: "look toward the heavens, and count the stars, if you are able
    to count them." And He said to him, "So shall your descendants be."

    The numbers I posted are not precise statistics; they're just rough hewn
    estimates meant to impress upon viewers that not only are people going to
    hell on a daily basis, but the amount of people going is a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WeberHome View Post
    According to Jesus Christ's testimony as a credible expert witness in all matters pertaining to the afterlife; most of the world's responsible souls haven't been making it to safety when they cross over to the other side.
    Is that a problem?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamie View Post
    Is that a problem?
    It's commonly believed that heaven is sort of like the peak of a high
    mountain. All around the periphery of the mountain are numerous roads all
    leading to the top. In other words: no matter which road you take; the
    destination is the same.

    But according to traditional Christianity; there aren't many roads to the top:
    there's only one; all the rest are dead ends, loops, and cul-de-sacs. If
    traditional Christianity is right; then an awful lot of people are facing a very
    unpleasant future. For example, according to my sources, there are
    approximately:

    50 thousand Scientologists
    15 million Mormons
    8.2 million Jehovah's Witnesses
    7.31 million Baha'i
    483.8 million Buddhists
    454.6 million Chinese Folk Religionists
    6.4 million Confucianists
    258.5 million Ethnic Religionists
    935.5 million Hindus
    5.7 million Jains
    1.5 billion Muslims
    1.8 million Orthodox Jews
    64.2 million New Religionists
    2.8 million Shintoists
    24.2 million Sikhs
    13.8 million Spiritists
    8.8 million Taoists
    640 million Non Religious
    138.8 million Atheists

    The grand total of just those categories is 4,569,460,000

    If those figures are in the ball park, and if traditional Christianity is the
    truth; then at the least 63% of the earth's current population of 7.283 billion
    people is on a road to hell; and no doubt some of those are people we know:
    our friends, our loved ones, and our associates.

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    According to Jesus Christ's testimony as a credible expert witness in all matters pertaining to the afterlife; most of the world's responsible souls
    haven't been making it to safety when they cross over to the other side.
    What do you mean by "responsible souls." Those that really are or claim to be so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WeberHome View Post
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    But according to traditional Christianity; there aren't many roads to the top:
    There are two, the first resurrection and the second resurrection. During this age many are called but few are chosen.

    For example, Paul said, "For you see your calling, brethren, that not many wise according to the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble are called. (1 Corinthians 1:26 NKJV)

    Why are they not called during this age?

    Paul explains that God has chosen the foolish things of the world to put to shame the wise, and God has chosen the weak things of the world to put to shame the things which are mighty...
    (1 Corinthians 1:27 NKJV)

    The wise and mighty and noble will be in the second resurrection and the Book of Life will then be opened to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bradley D View Post
    What do you mean by "responsible souls." Those that really are or claim to
    be so.
    Of age vs underage, adults vs minors, children vs grownups.

    I chose 19 as the cut-off age arbitrarily. It could be even older. For example:
    20 was the age deemed old enough for Israel's males to be mustered for
    war and included in a census (Num 1:2-3).

    When God condemned Yhvh's people to reside an additional forty years in
    the outback for refusing to enter Canaan when He wanted; the cut-off age
    was again 20. (Num 14:27-35)

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    Quote Originally Posted by WeberHome View Post
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    Of age vs underage, adults vs minors, children vs grownups.

    I chose 19 as the cut-off age arbitrarily. It could be even older. For example:
    20 was the age deemed old enough for Israel's males to be mustered for
    war and included in a census (Num 1:2-3).

    When God condemned Yhvh's people to reside an additional forty years in
    the outback for refusing to enter Canaan when He wanted; the cut-off age
    was again 20. (Num 14:27-35)

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    Very good, (imo) too bad no one seems to apply that meaning to dietous, (Matthew 2:16).

    Quote Originally Posted by jamie View Post
    There are two, the first resurrection and the second resurrection. During this age many are called but few are chosen.
    Very good, (imo) one out of ten lepers will be cleansed toward becoming whole.
    But what if every leper has nine lepers with him in the walls of his house?
    Last edited by daqq; October 31st, 2015 at 07:53 AM.

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    Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and
    broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But
    small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find
    it.


    Interesting, since an all-loving god could effortlessly provide just the opposite for his creation.

    Or is this simply an appeal to one's spiritual exclusivity and pride?
    _/\_

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    Quote Originally Posted by quip View Post
    Interesting, since an all-loving god could effortlessly provide just the
    opposite for his creation. Or is this simply an appeal to one's spiritual
    exclusivity and pride?
    According to 1Tim 4:10 and 1John 2:2, Christ gave his life in order to pave
    the way to safety for everybody; not just an elite caste. But for some odd
    reason, which I have never been able to understand, Christ's Father has
    restricted the benefit to believers only; and according to John 3:18,
    disbelievers are shut out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WeberHome View Post
    ...If traditional Christianity's perception of Jesus Christ and the hereafter is correct; then it's apparent that souls never stop cascading into the pits of....
    But perceptions of Jesus can only be interpretations. The gospel writers had their own personal interpretations, as did Paul in the 50s before them.

    And the diversity and cacophony on TOL is further proof of this fact.

    We don't always realize that what we call "Christianity" existed in a wide variety of forms and expressions. It was never theologically worked out until the order of the Roman Empire's Constantine in 325 ACE. But even so, every believer becomes what the original Baptists taught:

    The "priesthood" of every believer.

    We are (or should be) allowed our own interpretations of the interpretations of the Bible.
    Things in the world always have to be interpreted through humans, and humankind is diverse.

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    †. Matt 13:42 . . there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

    I was baptized an infant into the Roman Catholic Church; and was eventually
    enrolled in catechism where I completed First Holy Communion and
    Confirmation. Although catechism did a good job of instilling within me the
    reality of hell's eternal fires; it wasn't until I saw a painting by Gustave Dor้
    depicting a scene from Dante Alighieri's Inferno that I realized the degree of
    despair gripping the minds and hearts of people in hell.

    People down there know it's permanent; that's what makes hell so much
    worse than any other source of misery one can possibly imagine. If only they
    could see a light at the end of the tunnel; but that's just it: there is no end
    of the tunnel; it's like a Gerbil exercise wheel; within which the little rodents
    get nowhere.

    They say hope springs eternal in the human heart. Well; not down there.
    No; down there hope is futile. The fires are bad enough; but it's the
    permanence of hell that I would imagine hurts the most.

    Netherworld Update: 3 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the
    figures in post #1 are within reason, then something like 181,056 new
    arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since October 30, 2015.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WeberHome View Post
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    †. Matt 13:42 . . there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

    I was baptized an infant into the Roman Catholic Church; and was eventually
    enrolled in catechism where I completed First Holy Communion and
    Confirmation. Although catechism did a good job of instilling within me the
    reality of hell's eternal fires; it wasn't until I saw a painting by Gustave Dor้
    depicting a scene from Dante Alighieri's Inferno that I realized the degree of
    despair gripping the minds and hearts of people in hell.

    People down there know it's permanent; that's what makes hell so much
    worse than any other source of misery one can possibly imagine. If only they
    could see a light at the end of the tunnel; but that's just it: there is no end
    of the tunnel; it's like a Gerbil exercise wheel; within which running Gerbils
    get nowhere.

    They say hope springs eternal in the human heart. Well; not down there.
    No; down there hope is futile. The fires are bad enough; but it's the
    permanence of hell that I would imagine hurts the most.

    Netherworld Update: 3 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the
    figures in post #1 are within reason, then something like 181,056 new
    arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since October 30, 2015.

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    I find you preposterous for thinking that you can calculate how many people go to hell. It's a sick fantasy you must be having. What gives you authority to say how many go to hell each day ? These are all souls of people you're speculating on. Go to the horse races.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick jane View Post
    I find you preposterous for thinking that you can calculate how many people
    go to hell. It's a sick fantasy you must be having. What gives you authority
    to say how many go to hell each day ? These are all souls of people you're
    speculating on. Go to the horse races.
    People are usually comfortable talking about hell just so long as it remains
    an abstract concept in a bull session. But when someone comes along and
    puts a face on hell; there's always a percentage that tends to get agitated.

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