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    Quote Originally Posted by serpentdove View Post
    Revelation 13 has nothing to do with globalization. 7 heads and 10 horns DO NOT imply the entire planet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by disturbo View Post
    Revelation 13 has nothing to do with globalization...
    "...Remnant of Israel, Chapter 12:17

    Wild Beast Out of the Sea—a Political Power and a Person, Chapter 13:1–10

    Wild Beast, Description, Chapter 13:1–2
    Wild Beast, Death–Dealing Stroke, Chapter 13:3
    Wild Beast, Deity Assumed, Chapter 13:4–5
    Wild Beast, Defying God, Chapter 13:6–8
    Wild Beast, Defiance Denied to Anyone, Chapter 13:9–10

    Wild Beast Out of the Earth—a Religious Leader, Chapter 13:11–18

    Wild Beast, Description, Chapter 13:11
    Wild Beast, Delegated Authority, Chapter 13:12–14
    Wild Beast, Delusion Perpetrated on the World, Chapter 13:15–17
    Wild Beast, Designation, Chapter 13:18" McGee, J. V. (1991). Thru the Bible Commentary: The Prophecy (Revelation 1-5) (electronic ed., Vol. 58, pp. xxix–xxx). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.

    As a reminder disturbo is number 46 on Satan, Inc. (TOL Heretics list) in "The 'Jesus is not God' people (Non-trinitarians) category.

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    Quote Originally Posted by serpentdove View Post
    "...Remnant of Israel, Chapter 12:17

    Wild Beast Out of the Sea—a Political Power and a Person, Chapter 13:1–10

    Wild Beast, Description, Chapter 13:1–2
    Wild Beast, Death–Dealing Stroke, Chapter 13:3
    Wild Beast, Deity Assumed, Chapter 13:4–5
    Wild Beast, Defying God, Chapter 13:6–8
    Wild Beast, Defiance Denied to Anyone, Chapter 13:9–10

    Wild Beast Out of the Earth—a Religious Leader, Chapter 13:11–18

    Wild Beast, Description, Chapter 13:11
    Wild Beast, Delegated Authority, Chapter 13:12–14
    Wild Beast, Delusion Perpetrated on the World, Chapter 13:15–17
    Wild Beast, Designation, Chapter 13:18" McGee, J. V. (1991). Thru the Bible Commentary: The Prophecy (Revelation 1-5) (electronic ed., Vol. 58, pp. xxix–xxx). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.

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    And I hope to make it to #1! The trinity is an attempt of the carnal mind trying to explain something they cannot.

    I have no idea what you are trying to say by your reply. Tell me. Where do you find globalism in God's Word.

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    Quote Originally Posted by disturbo View Post
    [Antichrist (2 Pe 2:1) on Satan, Inc. ] "And I hope to make it to #1!"
    45 others would have to get saved for that to happen.

    "There's always hope. There's just no chance." ~ Dennis Prager


    "Section Outline Thirteen (Revelation 13)

    John sees two beasts, one from the sea and one from the earth, symbolizing the Antichrist and his false prophet.

    The Beast Out of the Sea (13:1–10): This is the Antichrist.

    His appearance (13:1–2)

    He has ten horns (each with a crown) and seven heads (each with a blasphemous name) (13:1).

    He looks like a leopard with feet like a bear and a mouth like a lion (13:2a).

    His authority (13:2b): It comes from Satan himself.

    His (possible) assassination (13:3a): Some believe he will be killed and then rise from the dead.

    His adulation (13:3b–4, 8): Following this the entire world is astonished and worships him.

    His arrogance (13:5–6): For a period of forty-two months, he blasphemes God.

    His activities (13:7, 9–10)

    In regard to God’s people (13:7a, 9–10)

    The cruelty (13:7a, 9–10a): He persecutes and conquers them.

    The challenge (13:10b): They are exhorted to display endurance and faithfulness.

    In regard to all people (13:7b): He rules over them.

    The Beast Out of the Earth (13:11–18): This is the false prophet.

    His mission (13:11–12): With the appearance of a lamb but the voice of a dragon, he forces the world to worship the Antichrist.

    His miracles (13:13, 15): He performs great miracles.

    He calls down fire from heaven (13:13).

    He gives life to a statue (13:14–15): This statue bears the image of the Antichrist.

    His mark (13:16–18)

    What it is (13:18) : It is the number 666.

    Where it is applied (13:16) : Either on the right hand or forehead.

    Why it is applied (13:17) : No one is able to buy, sell, etc., without it." Willmington, H. L. (1999). The Outline Bible (Re 13). Wheaton, IL: Tyndale House Publishers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by serpentdove View Post
    45 others would have to get saved for that to happen.

    "There's always hope. There's just no chance." ~ Dennis Prager


    "Section Outline Thirteen (Revelation 13)

    John sees two beasts, one from the sea and one from the earth, symbolizing the Antichrist and his false prophet.

    The Beast Out of the Sea (13:1–10): This is the Antichrist.

    His appearance (13:1–2)

    He has ten horns (each with a crown) and seven heads (each with a blasphemous name) (13:1).

    He looks like a leopard with feet like a bear and a mouth like a lion (13:2a).

    His authority (13:2b): It comes from Satan himself.

    His (possible) assassination (13:3a): Some believe he will be killed and then rise from the dead.

    His adulation (13:3b–4, 8): Following this the entire world is astonished and worships him.

    His arrogance (13:5–6): For a period of forty-two months, he blasphemes God.

    His activities (13:7, 9–10)

    In regard to God’s people (13:7a, 9–10)

    The cruelty (13:7a, 9–10a): He persecutes and conquers them.

    The challenge (13:10b): They are exhorted to display endurance and faithfulness.

    In regard to all people (13:7b): He rules over them.

    The Beast Out of the Earth (13:11–18): This is the false prophet.

    His mission (13:11–12): With the appearance of a lamb but the voice of a dragon, he forces the world to worship the Antichrist.

    His miracles (13:13, 15): He performs great miracles.

    He calls down fire from heaven (13:13).

    He gives life to a statue (13:14–15): This statue bears the image of the Antichrist.

    His mark (13:16–18)

    What it is (13:18) : It is the number 666.

    Where it is applied (13:16) : Either on the right hand or forehead.

    Why it is applied (13:17) : No one is able to buy, sell, etc., without it." Willmington, H. L. (1999). The Outline Bible (Re 13). Wheaton, IL: Tyndale House Publishers.
    You didn't answer my question and....

    The trinity saves nobody because there's no such thing and even if there were, salvation isn't found in a man made trinity.

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    Where do you find globalism in God's Word.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freelight View Post
    Do you find anything wrong or immoral with Pres. Obama's or Pope Francise's address?

    You do realize the Jewish hope from an OT perspective includes realization of a 'one world government'? Take also the belief in a millennial period of peace and righteousness with the Messiah ruling and reigning the entire world', besides a new heaven and earth wherever you them put in time.

    Sooner or later, whether a 'one world government' is headed by the true Messiah or the anti-Christ,...its 'assumed' that these will be actual states one day. How do these 'assumptions' hold? The thing to consider is will such a government be held by true and good principles, based on integrity, truth, mutual co-operation, tolerance and justice. If world peace can be sustained upon the grounds of real justice/righteous relations and mutual respect....world peace COULD be realized. Do you accept such a Utopia for our world?
    Imagine what a global nightmare it would be if we had a “One World Post Office”?

    Now we have a system where every nation has “bought into” where stamp prices are set and every country respects every other country’s mailing methods.

    Structural socialism like this works.
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    Last edited by serpentdove; February 14th, 2016 at 09:43 PM.

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    [Pope Endorses Agenda for a United Religion, Economy, and Government Proclaiming the Gospel Ministries] "We are steamrolling toward a one world government, a one world economy, and a one world religion. Of course we will not get there overnight. It is going to take some time, and there are going to be quite a few bumps along the way. In fact, I believe that our planet will experience an extreme amount of chaos before we actually get there. But every major crisis will be used as an excuse to advance this agenda. Virtually every solution that the elite offers us will involve more globalization and more centralization. We will be told that all of our problems will be solved if humanity will just come together in unity. For some, the goal of a "united planet" where we are all working together to eradicate things like poverty, war, and disease makes all the sense in the world. For others, a one world government, a one world economy, and a one world religion would simply mean setting the stage for "one world tyranny."

    From September 25th to September 27th, the United Nations launched a "new universal agenda" for humanity. The Pope traveled to New York City to give the address that kicked off this conference, thus giving his considerable endorsement to this new plan. Virtually every nation on the entire planet willingly signed up for the 17 goals that are included in this plan, but this stunning turn of events made very few international headlines. The UN is not asking permission but issuing a command that the entire planet will commit to 17 sustainable development goals designed to radically transform our world by 2030. Read more." Pro-Gospel.org Re 13:1-18
    Last edited by serpentdove; December 26th, 2015 at 09:52 AM.

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