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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    No one is persecuting you. You have rejected the Gospel and justification by faith and have embraced the doctrine of a heretic. As a Christian it is my responsibility to try and teach you the Gospel that has reconciled you and the world unto God, 2 Corinthians 5:18, 19.
    LOL! You can't teach anyone the True Gospel because you remain blinded to it 2 Cor. 4:3-4.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nanja View Post
    LOL! You can't teach anyone the True Gospel because you remain blinded to it 2 Cor. 4:3-4.
    I have been teaching the Gospel that justifies the ungodly, Romans 4:5 and reconciles us and the world unto God, 2 Corinthians 5:18, 19, successfully, for over 45 years.

    You are the one that is blind. You have embraced by your own free will the doctrine of a heretic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    I have been teaching the Gospel that justifies the ungodly, Romans 4:5 and reconciles us and the world unto God, 2 Corinthians 5:18, 19, successfully, for over 45 years.

    You are the one that is blind. You have embraced by your own free will the doctrine of a heretic.

    You can't even begin to comprehend the Truth found in those scriptures you posted, because your understanding is darkened as a consequence of your blinded mind Eph. 4:18: IOW you're void of Spiritual Life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    I have been teaching the Gospel that justifies the ungodly, Romans 4:5 and reconciles us and the world unto God, 2 Corinthians 5:18, 19, successfully, for over 45 years.

    You are the one that is blind. You have embraced by your own free will the doctrine of a heretic.
    You have been teaching for over 45 yrs that Christ death doesnt save them He died for !
    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
    preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
    called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

    Charles Spurgeon !

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    Quote Originally Posted by beloved57 View Post
    You have been teaching for over 45 yrs that Christ death doesnt save them He died for !
    That is a false accusation. Jesus has ALREADY reconciled the whole world unto God by his life, death and resurrection, 2 Corinthians 5:18, 19. Salvation has been provided for everyone, Hebrews 2:9. But some blind fools like yourself don't believe it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    That is a false accusation. Jesus has ALREADY reconciled the whole world unto God by his life, death and resurrection, 2 Corinthians 5:18, 19. Salvation has been provided for everyone, Hebrews 2:9. But some blind fools like yourself don't believe it.
    Don't you believe that sinners Christ died for are still lost ?
    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
    preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
    called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

    Charles Spurgeon !

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    Quote Originally Posted by beloved57 View Post
    Don't you believe that sinners Christ died for are still lost ?
    Only Gospel rejecting, Christ denying sinners like yourself will go to hell. You more than qualify.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    Only Gospel rejecting, Christ denying sinners like yourself will go to hell. You more than qualify.

    False preaching!


    2 Cor. 5:19 is referring exclusively to Christ's Sheep He gave His Life for John 10:11, 15: which make up The Eternally Forgiven World: God's elect who were Chosen in Christ before the foundation to be Holy and without blame before Him in Love and to have forgiveness of sins Eph. 1:4-7 .


    But not the condemned world:

    1 Cor. 11:32
    But when we are judged [Christ's Sheep], we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world.


    The cursed world of the goats were already prepared for the lake of fire from everlasting.

    Mat. 25:41
    Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nanja View Post
    False preaching!


    2 Cor. 5:19 is referring exclusively to Christ's Sheep He gave His Life for John 10:11, 15: which make up The Eternally Forgiven World: God's elect who were Chosen in Christ before the foundation to be Holy and without blame before Him in Love and to have forgiveness of sins Eph. 1:4-7 .


    But not the condemned world:

    1 Cor. 11:32
    But when we are judged [Christ's Sheep], we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world.


    The cursed world of the goats were already prepared for the lake of fire from everlasting.

    Mat. 25:41
    Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
    You are the cursed. Your doctrine is blasphemy against God and his Son Jesus Christ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nanja View Post
    False preaching!


    2 Cor. 5:19 is referring exclusively to Christ's Sheep He gave His Life for John 10:11, 15: which make up The Eternally Forgiven World: God's elect who were Chosen in Christ before the foundation to be Holy and without blame before Him in Love and to have forgiveness of sins Eph. 1:4-7 .


    But not the condemned world:

    1 Cor. 11:32
    But when we are judged [Christ's Sheep], we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world.


    The cursed world of the goats were already prepared for the lake of fire from everlasting.

    Mat. 25:41
    Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
    Why are you claiming there are sheep in Paul's letters? Do you just write your own Bible?

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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    Why are you claiming there are sheep in Paul's letters? Do you just write your own Bible?
    So when Paul calls the the Christians 'flock', it is not about sheep? lol

    Acts 20:29 I know that after I leave, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock.


    So what are these wolves going to do according to Paul, get a flock of geese?
    Oh how I love the Word of God!
    Do not just read the word do it.

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    "Reconciled" and "Reconciling".

    The work of salvation is ongoing. It's why we preach the Gospel.

    We see that here. 2 Corinthians 5:18, 2 Cor. 5:19, 2 Cor. 5:20

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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    So when Paul calls the the Christians 'flock', it is not about sheep? lol

    Acts 20:29 I know that after I leave, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock.


    So what are these wolves going to do according to Paul, get a flock of geese?
    That's talking about the Jewish Church not he body of Christ.

    Corinthians isn't written to the Jewish Church, and that's the verse under discussion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    That's talking about the Jewish Church not he body of Christ.

    Corinthians isn't written to the Jewish Church, and that's the verse under discussion.
    What? That is some confused stuff you are saying.

    In Acts 20, Paul is speaking to Ephesians.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    Only Gospel rejecting, Christ denying sinners like yourself will go to hell. You more than qualify.
    Don't you teach that sinners Christ died for are lost?
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    Charles Spurgeon !

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