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    Quote Originally Posted by User Name View Post
    Let's keep to the topic of the thread. How does the planet Mercury support YEC?
    You keep ignoring answers and replies.
    See post 25
    Without Genesis, absolutely nothing makes sense in all of Scripture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by User Name View Post
    Creationists hate a discussion, apparently. Or at least one of them does.He wants me to concede something I posted but I'm not even sure which point it is he wants me to concede. Stripe, in the words of Foghorn Leghorn, “What’s it all about boy, elucidate!”
    Try reading the post I wrote about what is required for geological activity on Pluto.

    You responded to it incorrectly first time around.
    Where is the evidence for a global flood?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stripe View Post
    Try reading the post I wrote about what is required for geological activity on Pluto.

    You responded to it incorrectly first time around.
    Thank you for quoting the erroneous portion of my reply and explaining where I went wrong. I'm sure everyone else keeping up with this thread appreciates it too, assuming they can find it.

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    This is Stripes typical MO, when he runs out of things to say he regresses to "try reading next time" instead of a meaningful response. He's like a broken record.

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    Quote Originally Posted by User Name View Post
    Let's keep to the topic of the thread. How does the planet Mercury support YEC?
    On planet 6days some creationist somewhere only has to assert something, based on as little evidence as possible, repeat with a long list of equally unlikely but similarly derived hasty YEC assertions and bingo, their whole supernatural 6000 year YEC scenario has all been vindicated before your very eyes, ...like magic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by User Name View Post
    Thank you for quoting the erroneous portion of my reply and explaining where I went wrong.
    Did you want to readdress the issue?
    Where is the evidence for a global flood?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stripe View Post
    Did you want to readdress the issue?
    Sure, why not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by alwight View Post
    On planet 6days some creationist somewhere only has to assert something, based on as little evidence as possible, repeat with a long list of equally unlikely but similarly derived hasty YEC assertions and bingo, their whole supernatural 6000 year YEC scenario has all been vindicated before your very eyes, ...like magic.
    I'm a former YEC myself. Well do I recall how my beliefs trumped real science, any day of the week. It was a trip to the Grand Canyon that started to make me realize that the true age of the earth can't be 6,000 years. Physical evidence shows otherwise. But that is a topic for another thread...

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    Quote Originally Posted by alwight View Post
    On planet 6days some creationist somewhere only has to assert something, based on as little evidence as possible, repeat with a long list of equally unlikely but similarly derived hasty YEC assertions and bingo, their whole supernatural 6000 year YEC scenario has all been vindicated before your very eyes, ...like magic.
    Hey Alwight
    Its nothing to do with a creationist assertion. And, really your and my views about Pluto and Mercury are not even based on science but on two different religions... Or, we could say its based on two different histories.
    We both look at the same craters on Mercury. We both look at the lack of craters on Pluto. We both interpret the data according to the history we believe in.
    As a Christian, I base my interpretations on the absolute truth of God's Word.
    Without Genesis, absolutely nothing makes sense in all of Scripture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by User Name View Post
    Sure, why not?
    Great. Go read my post on the requirements for geological reworking and respond rationally to it this time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stripe View Post
    Great. Go read my post on the requirements for geological reworking and respond rationally to it this time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by User Name View Post
    I'm a former YEC myself. Well do I recall how my beliefs trumped real science, any day of the week. It was a trip to the Grand Canyon that started to make me realize that the true age of the earth can't be 6,000 years. Physical evidence shows otherwise. But that is a topic for another thread...
    I live near a place called Alum Bay where multiple layers of strata have been exposed by sea erosion rather than by a river.
    Not only could all the many coloured layers not have been formed in 6000 years nor from one single event, but is far more likely to have been a great many, over many millions of years, on top of which they have all become folded to a near vertical position.
    A few thousand years is complete and utter nonsense of course as you have come to realised too, good for you.

    The Romans lived here 2000 years ago and pagans long before them. Their earthworks and burial mounds (barrows) seem to have remained eroded (weathered) but unmoved in perhaps well over 3000 years.
    The YEC timescale is just so plainly wrong if based on natural evidence, thus perhaps YECs should quit disingenuously arguing with, and nit-picking, genuine scientific conclusions and admit that their beliefs require that God "magicked" everything into a position that only gives the appearance of great age instead, if they want to remain YECs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by User Name View Post
    OK, bye.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 6days View Post
    Hey Alwight
    Its nothing to do with a creationist assertion. And, really your and my views about Pluto and Mercury are not even based on science but on two different religions... Or, we could say its based on two different histories.
    We both look at the same craters on Mercury. We both look at the lack of craters on Pluto. We both interpret the data according to the history we believe in.
    As a Christian, I base my interpretations on the absolute truth of God's Word.
    There is currently much interested speculation about the lack of craters on Pluto, I'll agree none of which seriously involves the notion that the universe began 6000 years ago (the global scientific conspiracy perhaps?). When all the data has been examined let's just see what they conclude rationally instead of jumping to any YEC type pre-conclusions?

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    While Pluto’s backlit silhouette is beautiful, this is more than a simple glamour shot. See that band of light surrounding the rock? That’s Pluto’s atmosphere, and looking closely at its illumination tells New Horizons’ atmospheric team some surprising things about its size and its makeup. “This is the image that almost brought tears to the eyes of the atmospheric scientists on the team,” says co-investigator Michael Summers.

    For 25 years, scientists have known that Pluto has an atmosphere. But in this image, the New Horizons team could pull out discrete layers of haze—small particles in the atmosphere, scattering sunlight. First off, the entire haze layer is at least 100 miles high, five times higher than the team predicted. And that layer seems to be broken into layers, one up about 30 miles and the other about 50 miles up.

    Those two layers may provide clues about the red color on Pluto’s surface. Atmospheric scientists think that methane in Pluto’s atmosphere gets bombarded by UV light, which helps to form other compounds like ethylene and acetylene that finally end up as red-hued hydrocarbons called tholins. Those heavier particles in the low atmosphere eventually fall to the surface, giving Pluto its distinctive hue. Studying the layers in Pluto’s atmosphere should help explain that chain of reactions better—and the team has a year’s worth of data on the way to help.

    Source: http://www.wired.com/2015/07/new-hor...ust-beginning/

    Pluto's atmosphere is replenished by ices that sublimate off its surface. New Horizons has identified three major types of ice—nitrogen, methane, and carbon monoxide—all within the bright 'heart' feature called Tombaugh Regio. -- http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...-air-on-pluto/

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