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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    YES! Well stated and just how I see it, but could never explain the way you have. I take back all those nasty things I said about you, Danoh.
    It does seem jumbled till you figure out his style. Then it all makes sense (whether one agrees or not).

    A worthy study buddy in my opinion.

    We don't tell our children fairy tales so that they will know that monsters exist.
    They already know monsters exist.
    We tell our children fairy tales so that they will know that monsters can be killed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    YES! Well stated and just how I see it, but could never explain the way you have. I take back all those nasty things I said about you, Danoh.
    Just wondering about you, sinless one.

    Were you not sinning when you said all of those nasty things about Danoh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tambora View Post
    It does seem jumbled till you figure out his style. Then it all makes sense (whether one agrees or not).

    A worthy study buddy in my opinion.
    Lol, that's because my style is jumbled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danoh View Post
    Lol, that's because my style is jumbled.
    hehe!
    We'll manage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danoh View Post
    Lol, that's because my style is jumbled.
    yeah, i already posted all those verses - so what ? - just kiddin', i agree with most of your commentary -

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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick jane View Post
    yeah, i already posted all those verses - so what ? - just kiddin', i agree with most of your commentary -
    The rest; Jerry will straighten you out on

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Shugart View Post
    Just wondering about you, sinless one.

    Were you not sinning when you said all of those nasty things about Danoh?
    No reason to be jealous, Jerry. Didn't I just recently give you a nod on one of your posts (pos rep)?

    And who are you to accuse me of sin? Attempting to put me under the law when I have been freed from it? Shame on you. All things are lawful though not all may edify.

    btw.....I didn't say any nasty things about Danoh. That was a joke, and if I had it might be considered a fault by some. Did you know you have faults, Jerry?
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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    No reason to be jealous, Jerry. Didn't I just recently give you a nod on one of your posts (pos rep)?

    And who are you to accuse me of sin? Attempting to put me under the law when I have been freed from it? Shame on you. All things are lawful though not all may not edify.

    btw.....I didn't say any nasty things about Danoh. That was a joke, and if I had it might be considered a fault by some. Did you know you have faults, Jerry?

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    Bottle of Wen, anyone

    Note - without cutting, or dividing, lol

    https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...515d2ba897.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by glorydaz View Post
    btw.....I didn't say any nasty things about Danoh. That was a joke, and if I had it might be considered a fault by some. Did you know you have faults, Jerry?
    Unfortunately, I have so many faults that I can't keep up with them all. However, my wife does her best to help me remember them all.

    While I have your attention I would appreciate your opinion on the following:

    The Lord Jesus' words to the Jews who lived under the law indicate that they were saved by faith alone:

    "Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life" (Jn.5:24).

    In this verse the Greek word translated "believes" and the Greek word translated "has" are both in the "present" tense.

    In The Blue Letter Bible we read the following meaning of the present tense:

    "The present tense represents a simple statement of fact or reality viewed as occurring in actual time. In most cases this corresponds directly with the English present tense."

    Therefore, John 5:24 is saying that those who were believing at the time the Lord Jesus spoke those words had already received eternal life.

    Do you agree with that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Shugart View Post
    Just wondering about you, sinless one.

    Were you not sinning when you said all of those nasty things about Danoh?
    While your attention is present - what did you mean by the above; I find both its statements curious... thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danoh View Post
    While your attention is present - what did you mean by the above; I find both its statements curious... thanks.
    Are you not aware that gloydaz says that the Bible teaches that the saved cannot sin? She also says that since she was saved years ago that she has not sinned since then.

    That is why I asked her if she sinned when she said nasty things to you. In reply, she said that she was just joking!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Shugart View Post
    Are you not aware that gloydaz says that the Bible teaches that the saved cannot sin? She also says that since she was saved years ago that she has not sinned since then.

    That is why I asked her if she sinned when she said nasty things to you. In reply, she said that she was just joking!
    But for one remark of hers; I took all the rest as her ribbing me.

    The one exception, I took as her differing with what she understood I was saying in contrast to how she understood that particular issue.

    At which point, I smiled, thinking, "okay, she's off there" lol

    As for the other; if she was referring to the inward man; I'd have to agree with her - God's new creature in His Son is incapable of sin.

    These issues all boil down to three issues - the Mystery distinction; its life that now is; and towards its impact not only on the Mystery's ultimate purpose, but given what said ultimate purpose.

    Grace people tend to over focus on the first, far too less on the second, when we do; the third barely emphasized much at all.

    In a sense, odd, in that the mind tends to go from some kind of end result in mind, to its particulars; that from them it might moved forward toward said end result; said end result; its mark to press toward.

    This impacts our understanding, and thus, our respective differences in understanding as to the first issue.

    But that is another thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danoh View Post
    As for the other; if she was referring to the inward man; I'd have to agree with her - God's new creature in His Son is incapable of sin.
    She was referring to the outward man. According to her she has not sinned since she was saved years ago.

    Just ask her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Shugart View Post
    She was referring to the outward man. According to her she has not sinned since she was saved years ago.

    Just ask her.
    You talking about this - post # 3786:

    http://www.theologyonline.com/forums...92432&page=253

    Or this - post # 2720:

    http://ns2.truthsmack.com/forums/sho...93176&page=182

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