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    Cool What If Love Is NOT An Emotion

    1 Tim 1:5-6
    5 Now the purpose of the commandment is love from a pure heart, from a good conscience, and from sincere faith,
    6 from which some, having strayed, have turned aside to idle talk,
    (NKJ)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squeaky View Post
    1 Tim 1:5-6
    5 Now the purpose of the commandment is love from a pure heart, from a good conscience, and from sincere faith,
    6 from which some, having strayed, have turned aside to idle talk,
    (NKJ)
    It is most certainly not an emotion.

    Emotions result from actions of the will or some external stimuli.

    Love, that is, God's love, agape is a decision of the mind to love.

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    Interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squeaky View Post
    Interesting.
    What is love?

    John 3:16 defines it quite clearly.

    God so loved the world that He

    a. got emotional

    b. wondered "where is the love?"

    c. complained about not being in love

    c. gave ( of himself)

    God so love the world that He gave.

    People who want to experience love need to learn to give of themselves.

    People think love always feels good. Who says? Where is that verse?

    Did Jesus Christ feel good when he was being tortured and then hanging on a tree?

    Hebrews 12:2

    His act of love did not feel good to him, but he endured it for the joy set before him.

    How did Jesus feel when he healed ten lepers and only one returned to thank him?

    How did Paul feel when he, out of love for God and people, got whipped and thrashed and imprisoned for preaching?

    Yet both Jesus Christ and Paul knew how to love people, they gave of themselves to others.

    Not everyone appreciated what Jesus Christ and Paul and Peter and other men and women of God were doing.

    I Corinthians 13 tells lists characteristics of love.

    How many would be comfortable to do? It takes work to love. Some times very hard work

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    Quote Originally Posted by oatmeal View Post
    What is love?

    John 3:16 defines it quite clearly.

    God so loved the world that He

    a. got emotional

    b. wondered "where is the love?"

    c. complained about not being in love

    c. gave ( of himself)

    God so love the world that He gave.

    People who want to experience love need to learn to give of themselves.

    People think love always feels good. Who says? Where is that verse?

    Did Jesus Christ feel good when he was being tortured and then hanging on a tree?

    Hebrews 12:2

    His act of love did not feel good to him, but he endured it for the joy set before him.

    How did Jesus feel when he healed ten lepers and only one returned to thank him?

    How did Paul feel when he, out of love for God and people, got whipped and thrashed and imprisoned for preaching?

    Yet both Jesus Christ and Paul knew how to love people, they gave of themselves to others.

    Not everyone appreciated what Jesus Christ and Paul and Peter and other men and women of God were doing.

    I Corinthians 13 tells lists characteristics of love.

    How many would be comfortable to do? It takes work to love. Some times very hard work
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    Your right I agree. Suffering wrongfully but doing it willingly is what love is.

    1 Pet 2:19-22
    19 For this is commendable, if because of conscience toward God one endures grief, suffering wrongfully.
    20 For what credit is it if, when you are beaten for your faults, you take it patiently? But when you do good and suffer, if you take it patiently, this is commendable before God.
    21 For to this you were called, because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps:
    22 "Who committed no sin, nor was deceit found in His mouth";
    (NKJ)

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    LOVE? (CAN YOU DEFINE LOVE)(SUFFERING WRONGFULLY BUT DOING IT WILLINGLY) TO PLEASE GOD
    John 13:34
    34 "A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another; as I have loved you, that you also love one another.
    Gal 1:10
    10 For do I now persuade men, or God? Or do I seek to please men? For if I still pleased men, I would not be a bondservant of Christ.
    1 Pet 4:19
    19 Therefore let those who suffer according to the will of God commit their souls to Him in doing good, as to a faithful Creator.
    I Jn 3:23
    23 And this is His commandment: that we should believe on the name of His Son Jesus Christ and love one another, as He gave us commandment.
    1 Pet 2:19
    19 For this is commendable, if because of conscience toward God one endures grief, suffering wrongfully.
    1 Pet 2:21-22
    21 For to this you were called, because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps:
    22 "Who committed no sin, nor was deceit found in His mouth";
    II Th 3:13
    13 But as for you, brethren, do not grow weary in doing good.
    1 Tim 1:5-6
    5 Now the purpose of the commandment is love from a pure heart, from a good conscience, and from sincere faith,
    6 from which some, having strayed, have turned aside to idle talk,
    Gal 5:5-6
    5 For we through the Spirit eagerly wait for the hope of righteousness by faith.
    6 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision avails anything, but faith working through love.
    II Th 2:9-12
    9 The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders,
    10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
    11 And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie,
    12 that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
    Rev 3:17-19
    17 "Because you say, 'I am rich, have become wealthy, and have need of nothing'-- and do not know that you are wretched, miserable, poor, blind, and naked--
    18 "I counsel you to buy from Me gold refined in the fire, that you may be rich; and white garments, that you may be clothed, that the shame of your nakedness may not be revealed; and anoint your eyes with eye salve, that you may see.
    19 "As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten. Therefore be zealous and repent.
    Rev 3:15-16
    15 "I know your works, that you are neither cold nor hot. I could wish you were cold or hot.
    16 "So then, because you are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will vomit you out of My mouth.
    Rev 3:20
    20 "Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and dine with him, and he with Me.
    1Thes 5:8-9
    8 But let us who are of the day be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love, and as a helmet the hope of salvation.
    9 For God did not appoint us to wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ,
    Eph 6:13-17
    13 Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
    14 Stand therefore, having girded your waist with truth, having put on the breastplate of righteousness,
    15 and having shod your feet with the preparation of the gospel of peace;
    16 above all, taking the shield of faith with which you will be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked one.
    17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God;
    1 Pet 2:19
    19 For this is commendable, if because of conscience toward God one endures grief, suffering wrongfully.
    1 Pet 2:21
    21 For to this you were called, because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps:
    Gal 5:24
    24 And those who are Christ's have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.
    Luke 6:37-38
    37 "Judge not, and you shall not be judged. Condemn not, and you shall not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven.
    38 "Give, and it will be given to you: good measure, pressed down, shaken together, and running over will be put into your bosom. For with the same measure that you use, it will be measured back to you."
    Gal 5:22-25
    22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
    23 gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law.
    24 And those who are Christ's have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.
    25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
    1 Pet 2:19
    19 For this is commendable, if because of conscience toward God one endures grief, suffering wrongfully.
    1 Pet 2:21
    21 For to this you were called, because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps:
    I Jn 4:16
    16 And we have known and believed the love that God has for us. God is love, and he who abides in love abides in God, and God in him.
    I Jn 4:8
    8 He who does not love does not know God, for God is love.
    Rom 3:21-23
    21 But now the righteousness of God apart from the law is revealed, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets,
    22 even the righteousness of God, through faith in Jesus Christ, to all and on all who believe. For there is no difference;
    23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
    II Th 1:3-5
    3 We are bound to thank God always for you, brethren, as it is fitting, because your faith grows exceedingly, and the love of every one of you all abounds toward each other,
    4 so that we ourselves boast of you among the churches of God for your patience and faith in all your persecutions and tribulations that you endure,
    5 which is manifest evidence of the righteous judgment of God, that you may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which you also suffer;
    1 Cor 13:1-13
    1 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I have become sounding brass or a clanging cymbal.
    2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.
    3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, but have not love, it profits me nothing.
    4 Love suffers long and is kind; love does not envy; love does not parade itself, is not puffed up;
    5 does not behave rudely, does not seek its own, is not provoked, thinks no evil;
    6 does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth;
    7 bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.
    8 Love never fails. But whether there are prophecies, they will fail; whether there are tongues, they will cease; whether there is knowledge, it will vanish away.
    9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part.
    10 But when that which is perfect has come, then that which is in part will be done away.
    11 When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child; but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
    12 For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part, but then I shall know just as I also am known.
    13 And now abide faith, hope, love, these three; but the greatest of these is love.
    1 Pet 2:19
    19 For this is commendable, if because of conscience toward God one endures grief, suffering wrongfully.
    1 Pet 2:21
    21 For to this you were called, because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps:
    1 Tim 1:5
    5 Now the purpose of the commandment is love from a pure heart, from a good conscience, and from sincere faith,
    II Jn 1:6
    6 This is love, that we walk according to His commandments. This is the commandment, that as you have heard from the beginning, you should walk in it.
    1 Pet 3:17
    17 For it is better, if it is the will of God, to suffer for doing good than for doing evil.
    1 Cor 10:24
    24 Let no one seek his own, but each one the other's well-being.
    (NKJ)
    Gal 5:24
    24 And those who are Christ's have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.
    (NKJ)

    Everyone is made up of feelings and emotions and thoughts. And the Holy Spirit only quotes verses. Now to walk according to the Holy Spirit one will have to obey every verse that enters their mind from the Holy Spirit. And to do this one will have to go against all their feelings and emotions. That will be so hard that one will find they cant do it on their own, so they will have to pray to God for help. When one finds they cant do it on their own, but after they pray they can do it. This is how the love of God is revealed to them. Then one has an experiance in walking in love. Love is not a feeling or an emotion. Love is the act of going against all your emotions and feelings-suffering wrongfully. The feeling that most are deceived into thinking is love is in reality lust or coveting. Like when someone says I would love to have a two story house, or I would love to have lots of money. In spiritual reality they are saying I covet a two story house, or I lust after money. Covet is singular, and lust is plural(emotions).

    Gal 5:17
    17 For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are contrary to one another, so that you do not do the things that you wish.
    Acts 5:41
    41 So they departed from the presence of the council, rejoicing that they were counted worthy to suffer shame for His name.
    (NKJ)

    Now all our emotions are unclean spirit and our unclean spirits(emotions)want us to stand up and fight for justice or law. Which is from the old testament law of sin and death. And God is going to judge us with the same measure of anything we live by. Whether it be wrath, anger, violence, compassion, love, or selfishness.

    Luke 16:16
    16 "The law and the prophets were until John. Since that time the kingdom of God has been preached, and everyone is pressing into it.
    Matt 11:12-13
    12 "And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffers violence, and the violent take it by force.
    13 "For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.
    (NKJ)

    xx And what Christians want God to do is sacrifice the law of sin and death. And to get God to, we have to do it first. Love is an action not an emotion. God is going to judge us, and use on us the very same things that we use on others. If you dont want God standing up for His rights then dont stand up for yours while on earth. If you dont want God to give you what you deserve then dont give others what they deserve. If you want God to forgive you on judgment day then you forgive others while on earth. Because the same measure that you use on others determines the same measure that God is going to use on you. And everyone has fallen short. Being nice to someone with no emotions or affections is kindness. Being nice to someone when you have affections is friendly. Being nice to someone when you have an emotion if dislike or hate or anger is love.


    Luke 6:27-32
    27 "But I say to you who hear: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you,
    28 "bless those who curse you, and pray for those who spitefully use you.
    29 "To him who strikes you on the one cheek, offer the other also. And from him who takes away your cloak, do not withhold your tunic either.
    30 "Give to everyone who asks of you. And from him who takes away your goods do not ask them back.
    31 "And just as you want men to do to you, you also do to them likewise.
    32 "But if you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? For even sinners love those who love them.
    (NKJ)
    1 Pet 4:1

    1 Therefore, since Christ suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves also with the same mind, for he who has suffered in the flesh has ceased from sin,
    (NKJ)


    Matt 5:44-48
    44 "But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you,
    45 "that you may be sons of your Father in heaven; for He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust.
    46 "For if you love those who love you, what reward have you? Do not even the tax collectors do the same?
    47 "And if you greet your brethren only, what do you do more than others? Do not even the tax collectors do so?
    48 "Therefore you shall be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect.
    (NKJ)

    I Jn 4:6-12
    6 We are of God. He who knows God hears us; he who is not of God does not hear us. By this we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error.
    7 Beloved, let us love one another, for love is of God; and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God.
    8 He who does not love does not know God, for God is love.
    9 In this the love of God was manifested toward us, that God has sent His only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through Him.
    10 In this is love, not that we loved God, but that He loved us and sent His Son to be the propitiation for our sins.
    11 Beloved, if God so loved us, we also ought to love one another.
    12 No one has seen God at any time. If we love one another, God abides in us, and His love has been perfected in us.
    (NKJ)

    John 15:13-14
    13 "Greater love has no one than this, than to lay down one's life for his friends.
    14 "You are My friends if you do whatever I command you.
    (NKJ)


    1 Cor 14:1
    1 Pursue love, and desire spiritual gifts, but especially that you may prophesy.
    (NKJ)

    xxx A Christian should put up with other peoples weaknesses(bear) because they will have to overcome their own burdens.
    Gal 6:2-5
    2 Bear one another's burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ.
    3 For if anyone thinks himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceives himself.
    4 But let each one examine his own work, and then he will have rejoicing in himself alone, and not in another.
    5 For each one shall bear his own load.
    (NKJ)

    (NKJ)
    XXX The only way to love is to suffer wrongfully. You want to know why there is so much suffering in the world. Its because man does not want to love one another. And who is behind them pushing them to stand up for their rights? Satan. If your not suffering wrongfully, all you have in your treasury is kindness. So you think you know what love is, you dont. Those who know have crucified their flesh with all its emotions and feelings. And have found their inner man, and crucified their outer person.


    Gal 5:22-25
    22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
    23 gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law.
    24 And those who are Christ's have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.
    25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
    (NKJ)

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    1 Pet 2:21
    21 For to this you were called, because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps:

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    If you cant define love how do you know that you can perform love?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishrovmen View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squeaky View Post
    1 Tim 1:5-6
    5 Now the purpose of the commandment is love from a pure heart, from a good conscience, and from sincere faith,
    6 from which some, having strayed, have turned aside to idle talk,
    (NKJ)
    Love is an emotion.
    Oh how I love the Word of God!

    Do not just read the word do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    Love is an emotion.
    I said
    No it isn't. The emotion that you think is love is in reality coveting or lust. The emotions we are suppose to crucify.



    Gal 5:16-24
    16 I say then: Walk in the Spirit, and you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh.
    17 For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are contrary to one another, so that you do not do the things that you wish.
    18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.
    19 Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness,
    20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies,
    21 envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.
    22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
    23 gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law.
    24 And those who are Christ's have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.
    (NKJ)

    This is love. To suffer wrongfully but do it willingly. If there is no suffering there is no love. If there is no suffering wrongfully it is kindness or goodness, but not love.

    1 Pet 2:19-22
    19 For this is commendable, if because of conscience toward God one endures grief, suffering wrongfully.
    20 For what credit is it if, when you are beaten for your faults, you take it patiently? But when you do good and suffer, if you take it patiently, this is commendable before God.
    21 For to this you were called, because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps:
    22 "Who committed no sin, nor was deceit found in His mouth";
    (NKJ)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squeaky View Post
    I said
    No it isn't. The emotion that you think is love is in reality coveting or lust. The emotions we are suppose to crucify.



    Gal 5:16-24
    16 I say then: Walk in the Spirit, and you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh.
    17 For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are contrary to one another, so that you do not do the things that you wish.
    18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.
    19 Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness,
    20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies,
    21 envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.
    22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
    23 gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law.
    24 And those who are Christ's have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.
    (NKJ)

    This is love. To suffer wrongfully but do it willingly. If there is no suffering there is no love. If there is no suffering wrongfully it is kindness or goodness, but not love.

    1 Pet 2:19-22
    19 For this is commendable, if because of conscience toward God one endures grief, suffering wrongfully.
    20 For what credit is it if, when you are beaten for your faults, you take it patiently? But when you do good and suffer, if you take it patiently, this is commendable before God.
    21 For to this you were called, because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps:
    22 "Who committed no sin, nor was deceit found in His mouth";
    (NKJ)
    Love is an emotion.
    Oh how I love the Word of God!

    Do not just read the word do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    Love is an emotion.
    I said
    It is vain to just throw your own opinion at me. I know the Word and I know the Holy Spirit. The devil has deceived you into accepting the counterfeit. He tells us not to trust our own opinion.

    Rom 12:16
    16 Be of the same mind toward one another. Do not set your mind on high things, but associate with the humble. Do not be wise in your own opinion.
    (NKJ)

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    Do you really walk in love? Or are you deceived by coveting?

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