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    Quote Originally Posted by genuineoriginal View Post
    No, I do not support abortion.

    The Democrats are proud of being pro-abortion, even though it was a Republican appointed Supreme Court that gave us legalized abortion.

    The Republican party has lied for too many years about being pro-life, but has done absolutely nothing to stop abortion. They have passed up every opportunity to halt the spread of abortion and have compromised time and time again with the Democrats.

    The Democrats may be the official abortion party, but the Republicans are the party of compromise.

    Whenever it comes to the issues that the voters feel strongly about, the Democrats will stand firm on their principles, but the Republicans will compromise every time.

    I feel too strongly against abortion to keep voting for Republicans that promise to be against abortion but compromise every time.

    Do you think a super-majority would matter?
    It won't.
    We could have a super-majority of Republicans in both the House and the Senate, with a Republican President, and they will just ignore the whole abortion issue until they lose the next election and start scrambling to get voters, then they will trot out the anti-abortion promises again.
    do you support obamacare?
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    Quote Originally Posted by chrysostom View Post
    do you support obamacare?
    No.

    I oppose health insurance as currently implemented because it does not help people get health care. I have a high deductible insurance policy, since it is the only one I can afford to pay for, so I pay several thousands of dollars every year out of pocket for the policy and no health care, and then have to pay several thousands more out of pocket for health care before the health insurance policy will pay a dime on my health care.

    Obamacare is mandatory health insurance, not affordable health care.

    Do you want to go through the entire list one at a time?
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    Quote Originally Posted by genuineoriginal View Post

    Do you want to go through the entire list one at a time?
    I am looking for something significant about the democratic party that you support

    can you suggest something?
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    Quote Originally Posted by chrysostom View Post
    I am looking for something significant about the democratic party that you support

    can you suggest something?
    Why are you focusing on the Democrat party?
    They openly speak of their support for wickedness and depravity.

    Why don't you focus on the Republican party?
    They support wickedness and depravity just as much as the Democrat party (at the Federal level), the only difference is that they lie about it to get votes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by genuineoriginal View Post
    You have to get rid of both parties before you will see any difference.
    that is obviously not possible
    you can't replace something with nothing
    but
    you can replace the democratic party with the republican party
    and
    then you can focus on fixing the republican party
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    Quote Originally Posted by chrysostom View Post
    are you a union member?
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    I am not a supporter of unions.
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    do you support abortion?
    Quote Originally Posted by genuineoriginal View Post
    No, I do not support abortion.
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    do you support obamacare?
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    No.
    so here are three significant issues that are supported by the democratic party
    and
    opposed by the republican party and you
    but
    you claim there is no difference

    you are not making sense

    are you for same sex marriage?
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    Quote Originally Posted by chrysostom View Post
    that is obviously not possible
    you can't replace something with nothing
    but
    you can replace the democratic party with the republican party
    and
    then you can focus on fixing the republican party
    The problem with the Democrat and Republican parties is that both parties are trying to replace the other party instead of doing what is best for the future of the country.

    We the people cannot have a government of the people, for the people, and by the people as long as we are divided between Democrats and Republicans.

    Mark 3:25
    25 And if a house be divided against itself, that house cannot stand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrysostom View Post
    so here are three significant issues that are supported by the democratic party
    and
    opposed by the republican party and you
    but
    you claim there is no difference

    you are not making sense

    are you for same sex marriage?
    No, I am not.

    The Republican party may be opposed to unions, but that is only because the Republican party supports Big Business.

    You believe that the Republican party is opposed to abortion, obamacare, and same sex marriage.

    I believe that the Republican party is lying about being opposed to abortion, obamacare, and same sex marriage in order to get votes.
    I believe this because the Republican party is not doing anything about any of these issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by genuineoriginal View Post
    I believe this because the Republican party is not doing anything about any of these issues.
    what did you expect them to do?
    and
    when did you expect them to do it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by chrysostom View Post
    what did you expect them to do?
    and
    when did you expect them to do it?
    I expect them to do something instead of doing nothing.
    I expect them to do it while congress is in session.

    They should have been doing the job they were elected to do this whole time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by genuineoriginal View Post
    I expect them to do something instead of doing nothing.
    I expect them to do it while congress is in session.

    They should have been doing the job they were elected to do this whole time.
    do you know how congress works?
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    Quote Originally Posted by chrysostom View Post
    do you know how congress works?
    I know how congress is supposed to work.

    Congress appears to be broken right now because of the Democrat and Republican parties.
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    Quote Originally Posted by genuineoriginal View Post
    I know how congress is supposed to work.
    you wouldn't make statements like this
    if
    you did
    Quote Originally Posted by genuineoriginal View Post
    I expect them to do something instead of doing nothing.
    I expect them to do it while congress is in session.

    They should have been doing the job they were elected to do this whole time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rocketman View Post
    Interestingly Unions have been making inroads even in RTW states as of recent. Boeing opened a plant in South Carolina in 2011 and the workers refused the union, Now 2015 the engineers have already went union (SPEA) & the workers are preparing for a vote on a unionized shop and Volkswagon also unionized in TN a RTW state also. One has to ask themselves why would they change their minds so quickly? It couldn't be that Boeing is screwing their engineers & workers alike and they feel their is no other way to get a fair shake could it? If they were compensating these people fairly would these folks feel they need to unionize? These are questions you need to ask yourself chrys...unions would have never came to pass if people like Rockafeller, Carnegie, and Dupont would have treated their workers like people & gave them a decent living. I have to agree that the majority of union people are not sluggards but, just hard working middle class folks and if you reach back in time republicans used to support labor & the middle class at one time too. I realize that unions also support the democrat party which I detest but, I know too many union people that are good, hard working, middle class, right wing, tax paying citizens, some I even church with, to disparage them all for belonging to a union is just misguided.

    What happened to the republican party that it left the middle class worker behind chrys? They used to laud them...

    As an Mechanical Engineer for some 40+ years, I've worked with a lot of different unions. I even supervised UAW workers at Chrysler. I have a great deal of respect for every union member I've worked with, without exception. Even those union workers assigned to me that I was told I'd have to keep an eye. I always made sure when they corrected something I designed with a better idea, they would get the credit.
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    Eph 2:9 not from works, so that no one can boast.
    Eph 2:10 For we are His creation, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared ahead of time so that we should walk in them. [HCSB]

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    look at what the unions did for the big three automakers
    look at what the unions did for detroit
    look at what the unions were doing to wisconsin until walker brought them under control
    look at what the unions are doing to our schools

    the dirty little secret about obamacare
    is
    it was brought about because the unions found out that they couldn't afford the high cost of health care
    and
    they created the high cost of health care with promises and guarantees to their members
    a voice crying in the wilderness :chrysost:

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