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    What's MAD?

    Can a MAD rep please explain their doctrine, specifically salvation? Keep it to a paragraph and please supply scripture.
    "For to me to live is Christ, and to die is gain." -Philippians 1:21

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    You gotta be more specific than that.
    "There is one thing worse than going to Hell. That would be going to Hell and having it be a surprise."
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    Everyone who has not believed the Gospel of grace is not saved, no matter what else they believe or do.
    By that measure, how many professing Christians are on their way to the Lake of Fire?

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    Quote Originally Posted by musterion View Post
    You gotta be more specific than that.

    How is salvation brought to the world currently. Is it the gospel of Jesus Christ?
    "For to me to live is Christ, and to die is gain." -Philippians 1:21

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    The short version

    The gospel is...

    "Moreover, brethren, I declare to you the gospel which I preached to you, which also you received and in which you stand, by which also you are saved, if you hold fast that word which I preached to you—unless you believed in vain. For I delivered to you first of all that which I also received: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures"

    • Jesus was born under the Law
    • Jesus taught under the Law
    • Jesus came for the lost sheep of the house of Israel
    • Jesus and His disciples preached the good news to the Jews that Jesus is the Christ
    • The Jews were looking for the restoration of the kingdom to Israel
    • As a nation they rejected Jesus
    • God raised up Paul to preach the mystery which had not yet been revealed
    • Paul's gospel is the gospel by which all men are saved (Eph 2:8-9) until the time of the Gentiles is fulfilled.


    I'm sure others can fill in other details if needed.

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    How is salvation brought to the world currently. Is it the gospel of Jesus Christ?
    Yes.

    Would you please define for us what the Gospel of Christ is...what one must do to be saved? Please be specific.
    "There is one thing worse than going to Hell. That would be going to Hell and having it be a surprise."
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    Everyone who has not believed the Gospel of grace is not saved, no matter what else they believe or do.
    By that measure, how many professing Christians are on their way to the Lake of Fire?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doom View Post
    The short version

    The gospel is...

    "Moreover, brethren, I declare to you the gospel which I preached to you, which also you received and in which you stand, by which also you are saved, if you hold fast that word which I preached to you—unless you believed in vain. For I delivered to you first of all that which I also received: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures"

    • Jesus was born under the Law
    • Jesus taught under the Law
    • Jesus came for the lost sheep of the house of Israel
    • Jesus and His disciples preached the good news to the Jews that Jesus is the Christ
    • The Jews were looking for the restoration of the kingdom to Israel
    • As a nation they rejected Jesus
    • God raised up Paul to preach the mystery which had not yet been revealed
    • Paul's gospel is the gospel by which all men are saved (Eph 2:8-9) until the time of the Gentiles is fulfilled.


    I'm sure others can fill in other details if needed.
    Looks good to me.
    "There is one thing worse than going to Hell. That would be going to Hell and having it be a surprise."
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    Everyone who has not believed the Gospel of grace is not saved, no matter what else they believe or do.
    By that measure, how many professing Christians are on their way to the Lake of Fire?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ARMcCarley View Post
    Can a MAD rep please explain their doctrine, specifically salvation? Keep it to a paragraph and please supply scripture.

    link to listen to "The Plot" an explanation of Mid Acts Dispensation

    http://kgov.com/bel/20141204

    should give it a listen when you have some time 69min

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    Ask them if salvation was by obeying under the law in the OT?
    Ask them if they (OT saints) were saved by grace looking forward to the cross?
    Ask them what books of the Bible you are to adhere to? Of course you will find this out quickly if you start quoting anything Jesus, Peter, James or anyone other than Paul said in the Bible.
    The greatest hope for America:
    2Ch 7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

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    Jesus, the son of God came to earth to save the world from their sins. He was crucified by cross and on the third day He arose from the grave therefore defeating satan. Anyone who believes and confesses Him as their Lord and Savior will be saved
    "For to me to live is Christ, and to die is gain." -Philippians 1:21

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    Quote Originally Posted by ARMcCarley View Post
    Can a MAD rep please explain their doctrine, specifically salvation? Keep it to a paragraph and please supply scripture.
    Good question.

    I haven't been able to wrap my head around the necessity / background of this either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ARMcCarley View Post
    Can a MAD rep please explain their doctrine, specifically salvation?
    Yes. Believe the Bible. Are you a Christian? This exchange needs to be one-on-one.
    Jesus saves completely. http://www.climatedepot.com/ http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

    Titus 1

    For there are many insubordinate, both idle talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision, whose mouths must be stopped

    Ephesians 5

    11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them. 12 For it is shameful even to speak of those things which are done by them in secret

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    Here is a short rebuttal of MAD
    http://www.spiritandtruth.org/questions/17.htm?x=x
    The greatest hope for America:
    2Ch 7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick M View Post
    Yes. Believe the Bible. Are you a Christian? This exchange needs to be one-on-one.

    There is a new thread "What's MAD" come over and explain
    "For to me to live is Christ, and to die is gain." -Philippians 1:21

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    Lol sorry I'm hopping from thread to thread
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    Quote Originally Posted by ARMcCarley View Post
    Jesus, the son of God came to earth to save the world from their sins. He was crucified by cross and on the third day He arose from the grave therefore defeating satan.
    It wasn't to defeat satan. It was to defeat death.

    Anyone who believes and confesses Him as their Lord and Savior will be saved
    That isn't what the Lord Jesus Christ said nor James. And that is the point of "MAD". He said tell no one that he is the Christ. Do you do that? Why or why not.
    Jesus saves completely. http://www.climatedepot.com/ http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

    Titus 1

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    Ephesians 5

    11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them. 12 For it is shameful even to speak of those things which are done by them in secret

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