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    Quote Originally Posted by rocketman View Post
    IF God controls/determines "everything" He created than that would mean he also determines sin as well which would make Him evil. This quite an evil heresy you are walking in Nang. Evil indeed!

    How dare you accuse God of controlling/determining the the evil acts of His creation, how dare you call God evil. Your doctrine is evil...
    Yep!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delmar View Post
    Post of the Day

    WOW!!!

    How can anything Happen Out of God's WILL, ( IF God's Will, WILL Be Done???? (( And it Will, - He said it Will ))!!! - God Wills evil to Satan to preform on the Evil!!

    NOW Prove that wrong!!!!

    Whose WILL is it For GM to (( Pester Me ALL THE TIME ))???? -- God allows ((( "TOL" ))) to Allow GM to do evil to people who ((((( Just say what they BELIEVE!!!!!!! )))))!!!!! ((( THANKS )))!!!!!

    WHAT A PLACE!!!!!!!??????

    No Body -- 00-00-00
    ---Gal. 4:16.
    ---"Am I therefore become your enemy because I tell you the truth"???

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    How can anything Happen Out of God's WILL?

    NOW Prove that wrong!!!!
    God desires that none perish (2 Peter 3:9). In that sense, it is out of His will that any should perish. But many will perish just the same.
    Salvation by grace is not a divine game of limbo seeing how low one can go and still walk the walk. God has knocked us all down and said we cannot earn righteousness at all (Rom 3:10). He has taken away the limbo bar and declared the game over (Rom 4:5). -- Justin Johnson

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    Quote Originally Posted by musterion View Post
    God desires that none perish (2 Peter 3:9). In that sense, it is out of His will that any should perish. But many will perish just the same.

    ((( NO IT IS NOT!!! )))!!

    Desire and WILL is Not the same thing!!!! It's like LOVE and love ,and Knowledge and KNOWLEDGE, Just READ THE BOOK!!!!!

    Just go on and be the Phony Geniuses of Your and GM'S ~god, Who cares what GOD SAYS Anyhow!!!????????????????

    Just make up garbage and say GOD SAID IT!!!

    (((((((((((((((( YOU ALL CAN HAVE (( IT )) AGAIN )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) ))))))))))))))))))))))!!!
    Maybe you all's Lover - GM (((( "WILL" )))) come and (( SUPPORT )) YOU ALL AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! INJOY YOUR FOOLISH SELVES!!!!!!!

    NO ONE -- 00--00--00!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    ---Gal. 4:16.
    ---"Am I therefore become your enemy because I tell you the truth"???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letsargue View Post
    ((( NO IT IS NOT!!! )))!!

    Desire and WILL is Not the same thing!!!!

    Just go on and be the Phony Geniuses of Your and GM'S ~god, Who cares what GOD SAYS Anyhow!!!????????????????

    Just make up garbage and say GOD SAID IT!!!

    (((((((((((((((( YOU ALL CAN HAVE (( IT )) AGAIN )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) ))))))))))))))))))))))!!!
    Maybe you all's Lover - GM (((( "WILL" )))) come and (( SUPPORT )) YOU ALL AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! INJOY YOUR FOOLISH SELVES!!!!!!!

    NO ONE -- 00--00--00!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    So it IS God's will that all who perish, perish?

    I do not deny that's what will happen. That's what the Word says. But is it His will that it be so?
    Salvation by grace is not a divine game of limbo seeing how low one can go and still walk the walk. God has knocked us all down and said we cannot earn righteousness at all (Rom 3:10). He has taken away the limbo bar and declared the game over (Rom 4:5). -- Justin Johnson

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dialogos View Post
    In your theology, is God capable of restraining sin or not?
    Indeed He is capable, but is He willing to remove all possibility of freedom?

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    Quote Originally Posted by musterion View Post
    So it IS God's will that all who perish, perish?

    I do not deny that's what will happen. That's what the Word says. But is it His will that it be so?

    ((( NO )))!! God didn't say The EITHER!!!!!

    One cannot be more Stupid!!!

    God JUST SAYS WHAT HE SAYS, You all say that He says Everything you want your foolish ~~faith to Look Like!!

    Let you "Desires" be made known, doesn't mean Your desires are the same as God's WILL, Maybe His Desires also, but NOT GOD'S WILL THAT (( "WILL" )) BE DONE!!!!! - Will Means already - DONE OR ((( WILL BE )))!!!! Not just Desire for it to be DONE!!!!!

    But Have everything You all's - (((( "WAY" ))))???? The Lord's Way???????????

    No One -- 00-00-00!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    ---Gal. 4:16.
    ---"Am I therefore become your enemy because I tell you the truth"???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delmar View Post
    Indeed He is capable, but is He willing to remove all possibility of freedom?

    May be God's Desire, BUT maybe Not His WILL!!!! --- AIN'T the Same!!!!!



    AAAAHHHHHHHH!! -- Just take it ALL -- who CARES ANY LONGER?????????!!!!!!!!!!

    Say HIGH TO GM FOR GOD!!!!!!!!!!!

    No One ---
    ---Gal. 4:16.
    ---"Am I therefore become your enemy because I tell you the truth"???

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    May be God's Desire, BUT maybe Not His WILL!!!!
    "Maybe" not His will? You just said...

    How can anything Happen Out of God's WILL, ( IF God's Will, WILL Be Done???? (( And it Will, - He said it Will ))!!! - God Wills evil to Satan to preform on the Evil!!
    Salvation by grace is not a divine game of limbo seeing how low one can go and still walk the walk. God has knocked us all down and said we cannot earn righteousness at all (Rom 3:10). He has taken away the limbo bar and declared the game over (Rom 4:5). -- Justin Johnson

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    Quote Originally Posted by musterion View Post
    So it IS God's will that all who perish, perish?

    I do not deny that's what will happen. That's what the Word says. But is it His will that it be so?
    As you see, Letsargue is quite insane!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delmar View Post
    Post of the Day
    Don't forget to nominate it for POTY!
    Where is the evidence for a global flood?
    E≈mc2
    When the world is a monster
    Bad to swallow you whole
    Kick the clay that holds the teeth in
    Throw your trolls out the door

    "The waters under the 'expanse' were under the crust."
    -Bob B.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Letsargue View Post
    May be God's Desire, BUT maybe Not His WILL!!!! --- AIN'T the Same!!!!!



    AAAAHHHHHHHH!! -- Just take it ALL -- who CARES ANY LONGER?????????!!!!!!!!!!

    Say HIGH TO GM FOR GOD!!!!!!!!!!!

    No One ---
    Your opinion is noted..

    and of no consequence.
    Last edited by Delmar; November 13th, 2014 at 12:19 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by musterion View Post
    IF He exhaustively knows all that we all will or won't do...if He knows whether I'll order a BLT or a Reuben nine years from now...then I'd guess the answer would be no, we don't. But I was not looking to enter into this debate. There's too much that seems philosophical white area speculation and assumption making, on both sides, so I shy away from it. There's good points made by both too, but too much 'secret things are God's' about all this to me. I only wanted to show what I see as a hole in an atheist's reasoning about God, and nothing else.
    He came to this reasoning to rejecting the idea of Christianity. And I, as a Christian, also came to the same. I am not an atheist; far from it. So is there a hole in my reasoning?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lighthouse View Post
    He came to this reasoning to rejecting the idea of Christianity. And I, as a Christian, also came to the same. I am not an atheist; far from it. So is there a hole in my reasoning?
    Not sure because I'm not sure what you're getting at. Do you believe that if God (hypothetically) simply foreknows but did not decree your sandwich choice a decade hence, that still equals His having decreed it anyway?
    Salvation by grace is not a divine game of limbo seeing how low one can go and still walk the walk. God has knocked us all down and said we cannot earn righteousness at all (Rom 3:10). He has taken away the limbo bar and declared the game over (Rom 4:5). -- Justin Johnson

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    Quote Originally Posted by musterion View Post
    Not sure because I'm not sure what you're getting at. Do you believe that if God (hypothetically) simply foreknows but did not decree your sandwich choice a decade hence, that still equals His having decreed it anyway?
    No. I'm simply saying that if He knew then then I do not have a choice.


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