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    Delmar's POD 11-3-14

    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    You seem to believe that everything that happens to you is God's will.

    So, when you wreck your car because you were driving over the speed limit, that was God's will?

    I guess if you want to blame God for all of your stupid mistakes you can do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bright Raven View Post
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    So no one here believes God determined the crash of the rocket and space vehicle this past weekend? That these events do not fit in to His sovereign plan over all things?

    Odd . . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nang View Post
    So no one here believes God determined the crash of the rocket and space vehicle this past weekend? That these events do not fit in to His sovereign plan over all things?

    Odd . . .
    So you believe god determines all the cases of child rape and uses that for his purpose, EVERYTIME? At least the OV crowd can use the bible to explain evil, and don't try to pawn such horrible things off as "god's will". Thats absolutely VILE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrDeets View Post
    So you believe god determines all the cases of child rape and uses that for his purpose, EVERYTIME? At least the OV crowd can use the bible to explain evil, and don't try to pawn such horrible things off as "god's will". Thats absolutely VILE.
    Why do you equate a technical failure with deliberate and vile human sins?
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Robert Pate View Post
    You seem to believe that everything that happens to you is God's will.

    So, when you wreck your car because you were driving over the speed limit, that was God's will?

    I guess if you want to blame God for all of your stupid mistakes you can do that.


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    GOD has created a real world of cause and effect which man is free to act upon, because GOD has sovereignly ordained that man should have the good and mysterious gifts of self-consciousness and self-determination/free will.
    To say that GOD is pulling every string, that all things are determined and that man is determined, is to ignore the real world that GOD has made and thus, live in a fantasy world.
    Also, to say that GOD is pulling every string is the same as saying that there are no miracles because a true miracle is an interference with the cause and effect real world that GOD has made. If everything is a miracle, then.......nothing is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nang View Post
    Why do you equate a technical failure with deliberate and vile human sins?
    Who's technical failure?

    Don't you believe that everything that happens is God's predetermined will? Down to the minutia of losing/finding car keys?
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    I believe that God has FOREKNOWLEDGE of all things, but He doesn't make things happen. Yes, man still has free will. God just knows what we will do.
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    R.C. Sproul is typical of Calvinists. He claimed that if the path of even one stray molecule of gas in deep space is not directly controlled by God, then He is not sovereign and so is not God.

    Follow the logic of that out as far as you like but have a barf bag handy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by journey View Post
    I believe that God has FOREKNOWLEDGE of all things, but He doesn't make things happen. Yes, man still has free will. God just knows what we will do.
    Can God be wrong in his "foreknowledge"?
    Trust those that seek the truth, but doubt those that say they have found it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nang View Post
    So no one here believes God determined the crash of the rocket and space vehicle this past weekend?
    Not even a little bit.
    That these events do not fit in to His sovereign plan over all things?
    Where do you find any of that in the Bible?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrDeets View Post
    Can God be wrong in his "foreknowledge"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delmar View Post
    Not even a little bit.
    Where do you find any of that in the Bible?
    Romans 8:28

    God works in mysterious ways.
    Eph 2:8 For you are saved by grace through faith, and this is not from yourselves; it is God's gift --
    Eph 2:9 not from works, so that no one can boast.
    Eph 2:10 For we are His creation, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared ahead of time so that we should walk in them. [HCSB]

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