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    Quote Originally Posted by JudgeRightly View Post
    Says the one who has ignored everything I have said so far.
    You post nothing that I have not seen and pondered over for many years. Old fables from folks who do not understand scripture.

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    Psalm 1[/COLOR] and Job 28:28

    Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

    Joh 4:23 "But an hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for such people the Father seeks to be His worshipers.

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    Jesus is sitting on God's throne but you refuse to call him God.
    Oh how I love the Word of God!
    Do not just read the word do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    Jesus is sitting on God's throne but you refuse to call him God.
    Sometimes translations shouldn't be tampered with.....

    Revelation 3:21

    “To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.”

    King James Version (KJV)

    Who is he that overcometh?

    1 John 5:5

    “Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?”

    King James Version (KJV)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1Mind1Spirit View Post
    Sometimes translations shouldn't be tampered with.....
    What are you talking about?
    Quote Originally Posted by 1Mind1Spirit View Post

    Revelation 3:21

    “To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.”

    King James Version (KJV)

    Who is he that overcometh?

    1 John 5:5

    “Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?”

    King James Version (KJV)
    Those who overcome will be granted to sit with Jesus on his throne, but you still won't be given the name above every name as Jesus was given.

    Philippians 2:9 Therefore God exalted him to the highest place and gave him the name that is above every name,
    Oh how I love the Word of God!
    Do not just read the word do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    What are you talking about?


    Those who overcome will be granted to sit with Jesus on his throne, but you still won't be given the name above every name as Jesus was given.

    Philippians 2:9 Therefore God exalted him to the highest place and gave him the name that is above every name,
    Who, what, where?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1Mind1Spirit View Post
    Who, what, where?
    Jesus' throne, and you, and you still don't have the name above every name.

    Did you lose track on what we were talking about?

    You say Jesus is not God.

    I said he is given the NAME ABOVE every name and sat down on the Father's throne.

    You getting to sit on it with Jesus will not ever get you the highest name.
    Oh how I love the Word of God!
    Do not just read the word do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    Jesus' throne, and you, and you still don't have the name above every name.

    Did you lose track on what we were talking about?

    You say Jesus is not God.

    I said he is given the NAME ABOVE every name and sat down on the Father's throne.

    You getting to sit on it with Jesus will not ever get you the highest name.
    Never said it would.

    I can settle for as.

    Matthew 10:25

    “It is enough for the disciple that he be as his master, and the servant as his lord. If they have called the master of the house Beelzebub, how much more shall they call them of his household?”


    Can you settle for in?

    “To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.”
    King James Version (KJV)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1Mind1Spirit View Post
    Never said it would.

    I can settle for as.

    Matthew 10:25

    “It is enough for the disciple that he be as his master, and the servant as his lord. If they have called the master of the house Beelzebub, how much more shall they call them of his household?”


    Can you settle for in?

    “To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.”
    King James Version (KJV)
    Stop trying to get out of the issue at hand, and it is that Jesus has been given the name above others, we have not.
    Oh how I love the Word of God!
    Do not just read the word do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    Stop trying to get out of the issue at hand, and it is that Jesus has been given the name above others, we have not.
    I answered this statement you made...


    Jesus is sitting on God's throne but you refuse to call him God.

    So will you stop trying to get out of what you said?

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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Truth View Post
    Stop trying to get out of the issue at hand, and it is that Jesus has been given the name above others, we have not.
    Philippians 2:9-11New International Version (NIV)
    9*
    Therefore God exalted him to the highest place
    ****and gave him the name that is above every name,
    10*
    that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
    ****in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
    11*
    and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord,
    ****to the glory of God the Father.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1Mind1Spirit View Post
    Philippians 2:9-11New International Version (NIV)
    9*
    Therefore God exalted him to the highest place
    ****and gave him the name that is above every name,
    10*
    that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
    ****in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
    11*
    and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord,
    ****to the glory of God the Father.
    What do you think you have disproved?

    Jesus has the highest place and the name above all others---BUT YOU don't want to call him that name.
    Oh how I love the Word of God!
    Do not just read the word do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1Mind1Spirit View Post
    Philippians 2:9-11New International Version (NIV)
    9*
    Therefore God exalted him to the highest place
    ****and gave him the name that is above every name,
    10*
    that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
    ****in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
    11*
    and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord,
    ****to the glory of God the Father.

    Jesus has the same name as God the Father.


    Isaiah 9:6 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

    Revelation 17:14
    They will wage war against the Lamb, but the Lamb will triumph over them because he is Lord of lords and King of kings—and with him will be his called, chosen and faithful followers.”

    1 Timothy 6:15
    which God will bring about in his own time—God, the blessed and only Ruler, the King of kings and Lord of lords,

    Paul said he is GOD.

    Read Revelation 22:12 “Behold, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to everyone according to what he has done. 13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.

    Revelation 1:8 “I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.”

    Did you read that?

    The scriptures Jesus is the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.

    Those are God the Father's names.


    Isaiah 44:6 "This is what the LORD says--Israel's King and Redeemer, the LORD Almighty: I am the first and I am the last; apart from me there is no God.

    Isaiah 48:12 "Listen to me, O Jacob, Israel, whom I have called: I am he; I am the first and I am the last.


    GOD is our Savior


    Jude 1:25 to the only God our Savior be glory,

    Jesus is our God and Savior:

    Titus 2:13 King James Bible
    Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;


    Jude 1:25 to the only God our Savior be glory,


    Did you read that?

    The ONLY GOD our SAVIOR.

    JESUS IS CALLED THE SAVIOR, but you will NOT call Him the only God.

    God is the Redeemer

    Psalm 78:35 They remembered that God was their Rock, that God Most High was their Redeemer.
    Isaiah 48:17
    This is what the LORD says-- your Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel: "I am the LORD your God, who teaches you what is best for you, who directs you in the way you should go.
    Isaiah 54:8
    In a surge of anger I hid my face from you for a moment, but with everlasting kindness I will have compassion on you," says the LORD your Redeemer.
    Jesus is the Redeemer
    Luke 1:68
    “Praise be to the Lord, the God of Israel, because he has come to his people and redeemed them.
    Galatians 3:13
    Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: “Cursed is everyone who is hung on a pole.”
    Galatians 3:14
    He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham might come to the Gentiles through Christ Jesus, so that by faith we might receive the promise of the Spirit.

    God is the Holy One.
    Isaiah 54:5 For your Maker is your husband-- the LORD Almighty is his name-- the Holy One of Israel is your Redeemer; he is called the God of all the earth.

    Jesus is the Holy One.

    Acts 3:14 You disowned the Holy and Righteous One and asked that a murderer be released to you.

    God is our Rock, and Jesus is our Rock.
    Psalm 31:2
    Turn your ear to me, come quickly to my rescue; be my rock of refuge, a strong fortress to save me.
    Psalm 31:3
    Since you are my rock and my fortress, for the sake of your name lead and guide me.
    Psalm 42:9
    I say to God my Rock, "Why have you forgotten me? Why must I go about mourning, oppressed by the enemy?
    Jesus is the rock
    Romans 9:33
    As it is written: “See, I lay in Zion a stone that causes people to stumble and a rock that makes them fall, and the one who believes in him will never be put to shame.”
    1 Corinthians 10:4
    and drank the same spiritual drink; for they drank from the spiritual rock that accompanied them, and that rock was Christ.
    1 Peter 2:8
    and, “A stone that causes people to stumble and a rock that makes them fall.” They stumble because they disobey the message—which is also what they were destined for.
    Oh how I love the Word of God!
    Do not just read the word do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keypurr View Post
    Stay in the darkness JR, I would guess that you are one who is not to know truth. You would rather sit and soak up all the false stuff the church has taught.

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    You're the one who is complaining about those "who promote stuff that is not backed up by the Lord or his Apostles" and then when JR posts a purely biblical argument, you ignore it.

    Why?

    If it truly is stuff that you've "seen and pondered over for many years" then please, by all means, shine the glory of your wisdom down on us by refuting JR's entirely biblical argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clete View Post
    You're the one who is complaining about those "who promote stuff that is not backed up by the Lord or his Apostles" and then when JR posts a purely biblical argument, you ignore it.

    Why?

    If it truly is stuff that you've "seen and pondered over for many years" then please, by all means, shine the glory of your wisdom down on us by refuting JR's entirely biblical argument.

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    His stuff is nothing new. I am not gifted enough with words to show all of my thoughts. But I know his for I was there. JR is a very dedicated person to his church, I was also. But we should not assume that verses say what they are until you can prove the content of them.

    I differ from most, thats ok with me. But it breaks my heart to see folks who just accept the stuff that the churches have taught us over the years. You get to the point where you give up trying to show them another opinions on scriptures. Being gifted with knowledge does not make one a good teacher. I believe that I have been blessed with some truth and I shared it the only way I know how.




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    Psalm 1[/COLOR] and Job 28:28

    Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

    Joh 4:23 "But an hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for such people the Father seeks to be His worshipers.

    I love the God of my Lord Jesus Christ

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    Quote Originally Posted by keypurr View Post
    His stuff is nothing new. I am not gifted enough with words to show all of my thoughts. But I know his for I was there. JR is a very dedicated person to his church, I was also. But we should not assume that verses say what they are until you can prove the content of them.

    I differ from most, thats ok with me. But it breaks my heart to see folks who just accept the stuff that the churches have taught us over the years. You get to the point where you give up trying to show them another opinions on scriptures. Being gifted with knowledge does not make one a good teacher. I believe that I have been blessed with some truth and I shared it the only way I know how.

    You really think that the Trinity doctrine is some sort of church inspired conspiracy theory?

    To what end?

    Besides, JR hasn't made any argument that sounds similar to "The Christian church has believed and taught the Trinity doctrine for centuries. Who are we to disagree?" has he? It seems to me that he's made 100% pure biblical arguments. You focus on the single word "in" and turn verses that should convince you to drop your position into something that the context does not support. JR then responds to that with completely biblical arguments and you ignore them.

    It sees to me that there is more going on here than a simple disagreement. You're emotionally invested. Your position then is the dogma, not the Divinity of Christ. You get that Jesus is God from having simply read the bible and taking it for what it clearly states. You're the one having to jump through totally unintuitive hoops to prevent the most obvious conclusion.

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