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    Jesus is God

    Do you believe it?
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    The historic Christian Church has always believed and taught the full divinity and full humanity of Jesus Christ (see this).
    "The very tradition, teaching, & faith of the Catholic Church from the beginning was preached by the Apostles & preserved by the Fathers. On this the Church was founded..." ~ St. Athanasius (4th cent.)

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    Teaching the full humanity of Christ is impossible if you believe he is divine. What is the point of copying God?
    John 1:1-2
    1 εν αρχη ην ο λογος At the beginning, it was a word; και ο λογος ην προς ο θεος and a word, it was unto a God; και θεος ην ο λογος and the God, it was.. A word 2 ουτος a-such... 2 ην εν αρχη προς ο θεος ... it was at the beginning unto a God.

    "Yahweh" is a word, not just Christ!

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    5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruciform View Post
    The historic Christian Church has always believed and taught the full divinity and full humanity of Jesus Christ (see this).
    Sure, your church defines "historic Christian church" as those who agree with the Council of Nicea, yet the majority of the historic Christian church after that council reversed that decision. You simply and conveniently exclude them from your definition of the Church so you can maintain your sock puppet of an infallible magisterium.

    Circular reasoning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bright Raven View Post
    Do you believe it?
    Yes but with a biblical definition of "God", not with your heretical understanding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omniskeptical View Post
    Teaching the full humanity of Christ is impossible if you believe he is divine.
    An odd claim, since the historic Christian Church has been doing just that for two millennia now.
    "The very tradition, teaching, & faith of the Catholic Church from the beginning was preached by the Apostles & preserved by the Fathers. On this the Church was founded..." ~ St. Athanasius (4th cent.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krsto View Post
    Sure, your church defines "historic Christian church" as those who agree with the Council of Nicea, yet the majority of the historic Christian church after that council reversed that decision. You simply and conveniently exclude them from your definition of the Church so you can maintain your sock puppet of an infallible magisterium.
    Merely a Straw Man Fallacy on your part.
    "The very tradition, teaching, & faith of the Catholic Church from the beginning was preached by the Apostles & preserved by the Fathers. On this the Church was founded..." ~ St. Athanasius (4th cent.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krsto View Post
    Yes but with a biblical definition of "God", not with your heretical understanding.
    Unfortunately for your assumptions, your preferred man-made non-Christian sect possesses no inherent doctrinal authority whatsoever to bindingly declare what is, and what is not, a "heresy."
    "The very tradition, teaching, & faith of the Catholic Church from the beginning was preached by the Apostles & preserved by the Fathers. On this the Church was founded..." ~ St. Athanasius (4th cent.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruciform View Post
    An odd claim, since the historic Christian Church has been doing just that for two millennia now.
    Morelike, 1900 years. They have not been teaching the full humanity with full Godship, because no one can believe it without warping their mind, and putting God in and limiting him in the me-box. It matters little what the Early Church Fathers believed, because they didn't even believe Genesis.
    John 1:1-2
    1 εν αρχη ην ο λογος At the beginning, it was a word; και ο λογος ην προς ο θεος and a word, it was unto a God; και θεος ην ο λογος and the God, it was.. A word 2 ουτος a-such... 2 ην εν αρχη προς ο θεος ... it was at the beginning unto a God.

    "Yahweh" is a word, not just Christ!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruciform View Post
    Unfortunately for your assumptions, your preferred man-made non-Christian sect possesses no inherent doctrinal authority whatsoever to bindingly declare what is, and what is not, a "heresy."
    The church of Rome has no inherent doctrinal authority whatsoever.
    Learn to read what is written.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruciform View Post
    Unfortunately for your assumptions, your preferred man-made non-Christian sect possesses no inherent doctrinal authority whatsoever to bindingly declare what is, and what is not, a "heresy."
    Your cult of lying married priests shouldn't have any authority!! How dare you claim what you should not have?!
    John 1:1-2
    1 εν αρχη ην ο λογος At the beginning, it was a word; και ο λογος ην προς ο θεος and a word, it was unto a God; και θεος ην ο λογος and the God, it was.. A word 2 ουτος a-such... 2 ην εν αρχη προς ο θεος ... it was at the beginning unto a God.

    "Yahweh" is a word, not just Christ!

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    I do not believe there are multiple supreme beings or that it requires multiple persons to make one God. I believe in having back-up but who can fill God's shoes?

    My God is Jesus' God.

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    Believe or not, my God is an awesome God, unlike Cruciform's.
    John 1:1-2
    1 εν αρχη ην ο λογος At the beginning, it was a word; και ο λογος ην προς ο θεος and a word, it was unto a God; και θεος ην ο λογος and the God, it was.. A word 2 ουτος a-such... 2 ην εν αρχη προς ο θεος ... it was at the beginning unto a God.

    "Yahweh" is a word, not just Christ!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bright Raven View Post
    Do you believe it?
    It? Do I believe it? it what?
    "And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship and in breaking of bread and in prayers." Acts 2:42

    "Fulfil ye my joy, that ye be likeminded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind" Philippians 2:2

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