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I suppose it must begin at one side of the ice wall and end at the opposite side of the ice wall for the FE'ers. However I remember seeing somewhere that if you can spare about $1200.00 you can take a Qantas sightseeing tour that flies over Antarctica, from New Zealand, and it even flies right...

:rotfl: So your advice to me does not apply to your pal Clete after all that ad-hominem of his own you just thanked him for posting? You have both "be-clowned" yourselves modern day Pharisees and hypocrites, thinking yourselves to be doing God a service, while making Him look worse than most...

Bara also means to cut down, like cutting down trees to build a house, (as I tried to explain earlier to someone else in this line of conversation). "I form [yatsar] the light, and cut down [bara] darkness: I make peace, and cut down [bara] evil", "Drop down, O heavens, from above, and let the...

As for myself, yes, I believe so: but the creation is spoken-Word, that is, Hebrew. But perhaps Clete believes the Epic of Gilgamesh is just as valid. :idunno:

Tell your pal Clete to stop the ad-hominem attacks and see if he is capable. Why do you suppose I asked him before to put me back on ignore? Yet here again he brags about how I am on his ignore list and yet here he is attacking me for something he misunderstood. He would have been better off to...

You are the liar and lunatic: You stated that God did not create math, period, and you said nothing about formal mathematics or any of the constructs of man. You're no better off than the flat-earthers, atheists, or anyone else you are always bashing. You're a pompous ignoramus who actually...

For the record this is what I asked Dave about his video: For the record this was a response from 1-M-1-S that followed my comments: For the record this was my response to 1-M-1-S after he misrepresented my comments: There are reasons for why we believe and understand the earth to be a...

Why are you trying to change your stance? I stand by what I said and I did not say anything about what you are trying to force into my words by your own faulty interpretation of what I said. I never said anything about formal math, which you never said anything about either until your last post...

I stand by everything I have said about it and I never mentioned formal mathematics. Look at the ten digits on your two hands: do you suppose ten did not exist until someone invented the symbol zero? Ten, (one and zero, 10), is simply a better way to write the same number. If you think there was...

I have seen some talk about it, mostly around here, but have not actually studied the position or view sufficiently so as to be able to answer your question, (I do not know enough about that mindset).

I know you are asking Clete this question but since his comment was directed to me I will answer for myself as to your question so that you might know where I am coming from also, (so as to clarify my position). I cannot speak for Clete but I suspect that he and I have a different understanding...

So according to you the Arabs also probably created zero? That was nothing more than man discovering something that was already there and giving it a name or label. Man did not create math but rather continues to be in the process of discovering and uncovering the truth(s) concerning it. The...

No, I did not ask that, and your comments are yet another mischaracterization and misrepresentation of statements and questions I have put forward. I asked Dave for a mechanism or cause or at least some reasoning to support the motions of the sun which were presented in a video he posted. You...

Tropic of Cancer - Wikipedia Length of the Tropic on 11 December 2015, at 23°26′14″N is 36,788 kilometres (22,859 mi).[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tropic_of_Cancer Tropic of Capricorn - Wikipedia Length of the Tropic on 11 June 2015, at 23°26′14″S is 36,788 kilometres (22,859 mi).[5]...

If indeed the sun circles above the earth, as in the video you have posted, then please explain how the hours of the day remain the same as the sun works its way over the two different Tropics and the Equator throughout the year as shown in the video. If what the video presents were indeed true...

HUH? What are you talking about? Please quote the post where I said domed roofs that are shingled and sheathed with plywood cannot be laid out in triangles. Here we go again with you creating straw-man nonsense by attributing false words to me. If you cannot argue your stance the answer is not...

The math in the above video is not difficult to understand: the minutes in a day, (1440 minutes), divided by the amount of time it takes for the sun to cross over the given land mass, multiplied by the distance in miles of the line across the given land mass, (whether speaking of one of the...

Another argument from total ignorance: total ignorance of the person you are talking to because you have no way of knowing where I have been or what I have done for work in my life unless I tell you. But since you now say that you have been a roofer you should have no problem understanding...

That would most likely be because it is not a body of water, (emitting much more vapor, that is, gases), and therefore there is probably far less atmospheric refraction occurring at the area around eye level over the salt flats. That is also likely why so much of the flat earth meme, when it...