Preaching the Gospel !
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The Gospel a Mystery
I have been showing that the Gospel is a Mystery and must be revealed, and it is not a message for the Natural Man 1 Cor 2:14, but it is to a Spiritual Man, birthed into God's Spiritual Kingdom Jn 3:3. The statement of 1 Cor 2:14 is in the context whereby the Gospel is pointed out to be a Mystery which He Speaks 1 Cor 2:1-7
1 And I, brethren, when I came to you, came not with excellency of speech or of wisdom, declaring unto you the testimony of God.
2 For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.
3 And I was with you in weakness, and in fear, and in much trembling.
4 And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:
5 That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.
6 Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought:
7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:
Notice vs 7, Paul says that we impart a secret and hidden wisdom of God, which is the Gospel, a wisdom or Gospel to a specific people vs 6 "them that are perfect"
Now this does not mean perfect as in a sinless perfection, the Corinthians were far from that, but the same word is used in Phil 3:15
15Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded: and if in any thing ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto you.
Even here it does not mean perfect in Knowledge, or else, why would anything else need to be revealed to them ?
However this perfect denotes that they are recipients and benefactors of a Perfected work by Christ Heb 10:14
14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified
They will receive a perfect revelation of God through Jesus Christ as a New Covenant Blessing Heb 8:11
11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.
They will be fully instructed in the things of God 1 Jn 2:20,27
20 But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.
Again, this does not mean they are omniscience, but they were given a capacity to discern the Truth of the Gospel, which is a Perfect Revelation, though still a progressive one, truth built upon truth !
27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
This word teacheth is the greek word didaskō and means:
to teach one
a) to impart instruction
b) instill doctrine into one
c) the thing taught or enjoined
d) to explain or expound a thing
f) to teach one something
Also the word is in the present tense, so that the anointing given them, is continually teaching them.
What is this Anointing ? It is the Holy Spirit, who teaches the Church all Truth, that is His Perfect Work to the Church !
That same word Teach is used by Jesus of the Holy Spirit here Jn 14:26
26But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
Now this promise was not limited to the Disciples, for it was given to them as they were Representative of the whole Body of Christ, and so that is why John says the very same thing to the believers in His Time as Jesus told him here in Jn 14:26, that the Holy Spirit would teach them all things . Notice
1 Jn 2:27
27But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
John, who by the way wrote the Gospel of John also, applies the Promise he received from Christ in Jn 14:26 to the believers he writes to in 1 Jn 2:27..
So the " them that are perfect" in 1 Cor 2:6 are those born of the Spirit and have received His abiding anointing, which He will abide with them forever..
Jn 14:16
And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
That same word abide is used in 1 Jn 2:27
27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
So these are the ones the Gospel mystery is spoken among, the perfect 1 Cor 2:6..
I have been showing that the Gospel is a Mystery and must be revealed, and it is not a message for the Natural Man 1 Cor 2:14, but it is to a Spiritual Man, birthed into God's Spiritual Kingdom Jn 3:3. The statement of 1 Cor 2:14 is in the context whereby the Gospel is pointed out to be a Mystery which He Speaks 1 Cor 2:1-7
1 And I, brethren, when I came to you, came not with excellency of speech or of wisdom, declaring unto you the testimony of God.
2 For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.
3 And I was with you in weakness, and in fear, and in much trembling.
4 And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:
5 That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.
6 Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought:
7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:
Notice vs 7, Paul says that we impart a secret and hidden wisdom of God, which is the Gospel, a wisdom or Gospel to a specific people vs 6 "them that are perfect"
Now this does not mean perfect as in a sinless perfection, the Corinthians were far from that, but the same word is used in Phil 3:15
15Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded: and if in any thing ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto you.
Even here it does not mean perfect in Knowledge, or else, why would anything else need to be revealed to them ?
However this perfect denotes that they are recipients and benefactors of a Perfected work by Christ Heb 10:14
14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified
They will receive a perfect revelation of God through Jesus Christ as a New Covenant Blessing Heb 8:11
11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.
They will be fully instructed in the things of God 1 Jn 2:20,27
20 But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.
Again, this does not mean they are omniscience, but they were given a capacity to discern the Truth of the Gospel, which is a Perfect Revelation, though still a progressive one, truth built upon truth !
27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
This word teacheth is the greek word didaskō and means:
to teach one
a) to impart instruction
b) instill doctrine into one
c) the thing taught or enjoined
d) to explain or expound a thing
f) to teach one something
Also the word is in the present tense, so that the anointing given them, is continually teaching them.
What is this Anointing ? It is the Holy Spirit, who teaches the Church all Truth, that is His Perfect Work to the Church !
That same word Teach is used by Jesus of the Holy Spirit here Jn 14:26
26But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
Now this promise was not limited to the Disciples, for it was given to them as they were Representative of the whole Body of Christ, and so that is why John says the very same thing to the believers in His Time as Jesus told him here in Jn 14:26, that the Holy Spirit would teach them all things . Notice
1 Jn 2:27
27But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
John, who by the way wrote the Gospel of John also, applies the Promise he received from Christ in Jn 14:26 to the believers he writes to in 1 Jn 2:27..
So the " them that are perfect" in 1 Cor 2:6 are those born of the Spirit and have received His abiding anointing, which He will abide with them forever..
Jn 14:16
And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
That same word abide is used in 1 Jn 2:27
27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
So these are the ones the Gospel mystery is spoken among, the perfect 1 Cor 2:6..
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beloved57
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Not Just One Mystery
Now the Gospel is just not one Mystery, but a system of or series of Mysteries, or more than one Matt 13:11
11He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
Now one of the Mysteries of the Gospel that has been revealed, especially to Paul, is the Mystical Union of Christ and His Church, such a Union that formed the basis of His dying for it's sins !
Eph 5:25-32
25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,
27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.
28 So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.
29 For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church:
30 For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.
31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.
32This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.
Now the very first verse of this passage vs 25 would be remiss if it did not set forth by analogy, of the One Flesh relationship of Husband and Wife, the basis or foundation of why Christ gave His Life for the Church, that would be because Christ and His Church were also in a One Flesh Relationship. There could be no legal basis that Justice could accept if there had been no Union with Christ and His Church, those He is explicitly said to have given Himself for Eph 5:25. So 1 Cor 15:3, could not be true if those whose sins Christ is stated to have died for, had not been in Union with, one flesh with, Christ when He died, this was a Mystery revealed to Paul in the Gospel that was revealed to Him. That Paul had the Gospel revealed to him is seen in 1 Cor 15:3
3For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
Notice when Paul says" That which I also received", he is speaking of received by Revelation, notice Gal 1:11-12
11But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
12For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
Now the Gospel is just not one Mystery, but a system of or series of Mysteries, or more than one Matt 13:11
11He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
Now one of the Mysteries of the Gospel that has been revealed, especially to Paul, is the Mystical Union of Christ and His Church, such a Union that formed the basis of His dying for it's sins !
Eph 5:25-32
25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,
27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.
28 So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.
29 For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church:
30 For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.
31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.
32This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.
Now the very first verse of this passage vs 25 would be remiss if it did not set forth by analogy, of the One Flesh relationship of Husband and Wife, the basis or foundation of why Christ gave His Life for the Church, that would be because Christ and His Church were also in a One Flesh Relationship. There could be no legal basis that Justice could accept if there had been no Union with Christ and His Church, those He is explicitly said to have given Himself for Eph 5:25. So 1 Cor 15:3, could not be true if those whose sins Christ is stated to have died for, had not been in Union with, one flesh with, Christ when He died, this was a Mystery revealed to Paul in the Gospel that was revealed to Him. That Paul had the Gospel revealed to him is seen in 1 Cor 15:3
3For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
Notice when Paul says" That which I also received", he is speaking of received by Revelation, notice Gal 1:11-12
11But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
12For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
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beloved57
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Gospel must be revealed to be believed aright !
Now if Paul had to receive a revelation of Jesus Christ to believe in and Preach Christ, why is it alleged today that any natural man has a freewill choice to either accept or reject the Gospel ? No such nonsense is ever stated in scripture ! However the Truth is, for anyone to believe in Christ [savingly or in the sense of conversion] through the Gospel, the Gospel and the Christ it preaches must be revealed in them as Paul said Gal 1:16
16To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood:
Now many attempt to elevate Paul's believing experience, in how he came to believe, as being different and out of the ordinary than any other believer, but that is a Lie from the devil. In fact, Paul's believing experience was so ordered by Divine wisdom that it may be an example of all who should believe unto Life Eternal, that is Paul's own inspired testimony 1 Tim 1:16
16 Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.
What can be more Plainer ? Paul was no super sinner, He needed mercy like any other believer. He states himself as nothing but a sinner Christ came to save as any other sinner 1 Tim 1:15
15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.
It took a revelation of Christ in Paul for him to believe, and so likewise any other believer needed the same ! Else how could he had been a pattern ? In other words, how Paul became a believer is but a :
an outline, sketch, brief and summary exposition of how the whole Church, the body of Christ becomes a Believer, being sovereignly saved out of unbelief..
Now if Paul had to receive a revelation of Jesus Christ to believe in and Preach Christ, why is it alleged today that any natural man has a freewill choice to either accept or reject the Gospel ? No such nonsense is ever stated in scripture ! However the Truth is, for anyone to believe in Christ [savingly or in the sense of conversion] through the Gospel, the Gospel and the Christ it preaches must be revealed in them as Paul said Gal 1:16
16To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood:
Now many attempt to elevate Paul's believing experience, in how he came to believe, as being different and out of the ordinary than any other believer, but that is a Lie from the devil. In fact, Paul's believing experience was so ordered by Divine wisdom that it may be an example of all who should believe unto Life Eternal, that is Paul's own inspired testimony 1 Tim 1:16
16 Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.
What can be more Plainer ? Paul was no super sinner, He needed mercy like any other believer. He states himself as nothing but a sinner Christ came to save as any other sinner 1 Tim 1:15
15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.
It took a revelation of Christ in Paul for him to believe, and so likewise any other believer needed the same ! Else how could he had been a pattern ? In other words, how Paul became a believer is but a :
an outline, sketch, brief and summary exposition of how the whole Church, the body of Christ becomes a Believer, being sovereignly saved out of unbelief..
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beloved57
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Christ must be revealed in One !
Gal 1:15-16
15 But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb, and called me by his grace,
16 To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood:
Paul as all Christians, had to be made a Believer before he could begin his ministry that he received of the Lord, to walk in those good works for which he was created in Christ Jesus for !
Acts 20:24
But none of these things move me, neither count I my life dear unto myself, so that I might finish my course with joy, and the ministry, which I have received of the Lord Jesus, to testify the gospel of the grace of God.
Another believer received a ministry in the Lord Col 4:17
And say to Archippus, Take heed to the ministry which thou hast received in the Lord, that thou fulfil it.
So as Paul, he was created in Christ Jesus unto good works God hath before ordained Eph 2:10
10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
Now the True Christ must be revealed to a Person, and this Christ cannot be divided, or He is not revealed partially, because to reveal Christ is also to reveal His Church or Body since they are One. To have Christ revealed to one to the exclusion of His Body the Church, is Like having Adam being revealed to one excluding to mention Eve, whom God made One with Adam Gen 5:1-2
1 This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;
2 Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.
So when Christ was revealed to Paul, so was His Church, hence Paul proclaims a Gospel Mystery, even a Great Mystery Eph 5:31-32
31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.
32 This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.
Now carry this though to Eph 6:19-20
19 And for me, that utterance may be given unto me, that I may open my mouth boldly, to make known the mystery of the gospel,
20 For which I am an ambassador in bonds: that therein I may speak boldly, as I ought to speak.
and explain why this Mystery of Christ and His Church would not be included in what Paul calls the Mystery in Eph 6:19 ? Yes, the Gentiles were part of this Mystery, but they were part of the One Body Col 1:25-27
25 Whereof I am made a minister, according to the dispensation of God which is given to me for you, to fulfil the word of God;
26 Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints:
27 To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:
Now pay close attention to something revealed in this passage where the Mystery of the Gospel is being referred to, notice vs 26 To who is this Mystery being revealed to ? It is His Saints, His Holy Ones. Its not made known or revealed to all men without exception, but exclusively to His Saints, so they can believe it by the Sanctifying work of the Holy Spirit 2 Thess 2:13
13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
Now question, are all without question God's Holy Ones or Saints ? Absolutely not. These are Chosen and set apart men and women, whom the Gospel is made known to or made manifest to, and WHY ? In order for them to believe it. Eph 1:13
13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
Gal 1:15-16
15 But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb, and called me by his grace,
16 To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood:
Paul as all Christians, had to be made a Believer before he could begin his ministry that he received of the Lord, to walk in those good works for which he was created in Christ Jesus for !
Acts 20:24
But none of these things move me, neither count I my life dear unto myself, so that I might finish my course with joy, and the ministry, which I have received of the Lord Jesus, to testify the gospel of the grace of God.
Another believer received a ministry in the Lord Col 4:17
And say to Archippus, Take heed to the ministry which thou hast received in the Lord, that thou fulfil it.
So as Paul, he was created in Christ Jesus unto good works God hath before ordained Eph 2:10
10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
Now the True Christ must be revealed to a Person, and this Christ cannot be divided, or He is not revealed partially, because to reveal Christ is also to reveal His Church or Body since they are One. To have Christ revealed to one to the exclusion of His Body the Church, is Like having Adam being revealed to one excluding to mention Eve, whom God made One with Adam Gen 5:1-2
1 This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;
2 Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.
So when Christ was revealed to Paul, so was His Church, hence Paul proclaims a Gospel Mystery, even a Great Mystery Eph 5:31-32
31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.
32 This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.
Now carry this though to Eph 6:19-20
19 And for me, that utterance may be given unto me, that I may open my mouth boldly, to make known the mystery of the gospel,
20 For which I am an ambassador in bonds: that therein I may speak boldly, as I ought to speak.
and explain why this Mystery of Christ and His Church would not be included in what Paul calls the Mystery in Eph 6:19 ? Yes, the Gentiles were part of this Mystery, but they were part of the One Body Col 1:25-27
25 Whereof I am made a minister, according to the dispensation of God which is given to me for you, to fulfil the word of God;
26 Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints:
27 To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:
Now pay close attention to something revealed in this passage where the Mystery of the Gospel is being referred to, notice vs 26 To who is this Mystery being revealed to ? It is His Saints, His Holy Ones. Its not made known or revealed to all men without exception, but exclusively to His Saints, so they can believe it by the Sanctifying work of the Holy Spirit 2 Thess 2:13
13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
Now question, are all without question God's Holy Ones or Saints ? Absolutely not. These are Chosen and set apart men and women, whom the Gospel is made known to or made manifest to, and WHY ? In order for them to believe it. Eph 1:13
13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
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SuperMonkey
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Perhaps the dictionary definition of false dilemma?
ThePresbyteers
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The universe gone universal, claiming, "I never came from the big bang.
Armininas claim, "I never had slaved, captive will but a free one."
The universe gone free as if there is one maverick molecule running loose in this universe outside the scope of God’s Sovereign authority. If God in some sense does not ordain every thing that comes to pass, then God is not really Sovereign
SuperMonkey
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That's absurd. G-d can be as sovereign as he likes, but His sovereignty does not require Him to mete out baseless favoritism for some and undeserved hellfire for everyone else. If man has no free will, then G-d is responsible for everything that has ever happened. The serpent in the garden -- G-d's fault. Word War II and the holocaust -- G-d's fault. Abortion -- G-d's fault. Child molestation -- G-d's fault. Jeffrey Dahmer -- G-d's fault. 9/11 -- G-d's fault.
Calvinism is the primary reason the number of atheists grows every year. It has nothing to do with love or with the G-d of the Bible. Your god is an evil, soulless, power-mad puppeteer. My G-d is Love. How does it feel to worship the ultimate source of all evil?
Calvin: "A god sovereignly and graciously forced some to sin, and then decided to punish them in eternal hellfire for what He made them do."
beloved57
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supm
God is responsible for everything that has ever happened. But so what ? He can still hold you accountable for the evil that He causes you to be responsible for..
God decreed that millions will go to eternal hell fire for their sins ! They had absolutely no choice in the matter whatsover..
God is responsible for everything that has ever happened. But so what ? He can still hold you accountable for the evil that He causes you to be responsible for..
God decreed that millions will go to eternal hell fire for their sins ! They had absolutely no choice in the matter whatsover..
SuperMonkey
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And you're actually interested in WORSHIPING this guy?
ThePresbyteers
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ThePresbyteers
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SuperMonkey
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Are you going to make an actual argument against my position or am I supposed to be swayed by all of these cheesy cartoons that you seem so fond of posting?
ThePresbyteers
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The Calvinist had just whacked the armininan in the face with a kick.
You have been knocked out and unable to respond.
You have cheesy punches.
SuperMonkey
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The Calvinist had just whacked the armininan in the face with a kick.
You have been knocked out and unable to respond.
You have cheesy punches.
Hey, please continue. I'm always amused when idiots demonstrate their idiocy in a public fashion. Also, just so you know, I'm not an Arminian. I hope that can help you better select which witty and irrefutable lolcat you decide to excrete on all of us next.
beloved57
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Its going to be to your everlasting destruction if you don't...
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SuperMonkey
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"If" is not a word that exists in the Calvinist vocabulary. You fail. Go back to demon school.
beloved57
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Will be seeing you soon I hope at the Judgment...
beloved57
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To whom is the arm of the Lord revealed, who will believe our report or Gospel !
Isa 53:1
Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed?
Jn 12:38
That the saying of Esaias the prophet might be fulfilled, which he spake, Lord, who hath believed our report? and to whom hath the arm of the Lord been revealed?
The Report here is the Gospel. The word report in the greek is akoē:
the sense of hearing
2) the organ of hearing, the ear
3) the thing heard
a) instruction, namely oral
1) of preaching the gospel
b) hearsay, report or rumour
It is also used in Rom 10:16
The arm of the Lord means His Strength, Might or Power !
But notice, this Power, this Report must be revealed[to one] to believe it !
The word reveal is the greek word apokalyptō:
to uncover, lay open what has been veiled or covered up
a) disclose, make bare
2) to make known, make manifest, disclose what before was unknown
The same word is used in Rom 1:16-17
16For I am not ashamed of the gospel[report] of Christ: for it is the power[arm of the Lord] of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
17For therein[ The Report] is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
The Gospel must be revealed to one because by nature it is hid 2 Cor 4:3
3But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
The word hid here is the greek word kalyptō:
to hide, veil
a) to hinder the knowledge of a thing
The word also means cover as in Matt 10:26
26 Fear them not therefore: for there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known.
Now if the Gospel is covered unto them that are Lost, and they cannot believe it, then the corresponding truth is, that only the saved can believe the Report of the Gospel. It is revealed to the saved !
If one is in a lost state, it [the Gospel] is hid, if one is being saved, it [the gospel] is being believed, and to them it is the Arm or the Power of God being revealed..Paul teaches the same thing here 1 Cor 1:18
For the preaching of the cross[Gospel] is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
The word saved here in the greek is a present tense passive voice, and it means , those of us who are being saved or that are in a saved state, it is the Power of God..
Folks, one must be in a saved state before they can believe the Gospel !
That answers the question of the prophet Isa 53:1 the saved !
Isa 53:1
Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed?
Jn 12:38
That the saying of Esaias the prophet might be fulfilled, which he spake, Lord, who hath believed our report? and to whom hath the arm of the Lord been revealed?
The Report here is the Gospel. The word report in the greek is akoē:
the sense of hearing
2) the organ of hearing, the ear
3) the thing heard
a) instruction, namely oral
1) of preaching the gospel
b) hearsay, report or rumour
It is also used in Rom 10:16
The arm of the Lord means His Strength, Might or Power !
But notice, this Power, this Report must be revealed[to one] to believe it !
The word reveal is the greek word apokalyptō:
to uncover, lay open what has been veiled or covered up
a) disclose, make bare
2) to make known, make manifest, disclose what before was unknown
The same word is used in Rom 1:16-17
16For I am not ashamed of the gospel[report] of Christ: for it is the power[arm of the Lord] of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
17For therein[ The Report] is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
The Gospel must be revealed to one because by nature it is hid 2 Cor 4:3
3But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
The word hid here is the greek word kalyptō:
to hide, veil
a) to hinder the knowledge of a thing
The word also means cover as in Matt 10:26
26 Fear them not therefore: for there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known.
Now if the Gospel is covered unto them that are Lost, and they cannot believe it, then the corresponding truth is, that only the saved can believe the Report of the Gospel. It is revealed to the saved !
If one is in a lost state, it [the Gospel] is hid, if one is being saved, it [the gospel] is being believed, and to them it is the Arm or the Power of God being revealed..Paul teaches the same thing here 1 Cor 1:18
For the preaching of the cross[Gospel] is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
The word saved here in the greek is a present tense passive voice, and it means , those of us who are being saved or that are in a saved state, it is the Power of God..
Folks, one must be in a saved state before they can believe the Gospel !
That answers the question of the prophet Isa 53:1 the saved !
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