Here's why Trump wants us all to go back to work

[God's Truth]

i had the same reaction to Obama, Bush2, Clinton

liked Bush1, liked Reagan

hated Carter

Loved Ford

Liked Nixon

too young to remember Johnson

You like Trump but hate listening to him like you hated hearing Obama, Clinton, and Bush2? That is very insulting to Trump.

As for Gabbard, I stopped liked listening to her when she was critical of Trump’s decision to order an airstrike that killed top Iranian Gen. Qassem Soleimani.. What a dumb thing for someone who was in the military to say.

I thought she slammed Kamala Harris and showed what a bad person she was.

 

[ok doser]

You like Trump but hate listening to him like you hated hearing Obama, Clinton, and Bush2? That is very insulting to Trump.

his voice grates - typical of a part of the country, a part of my state that I'd rather forget

Obama grates because he is such a self-satisfied smarmy puke - same with Clinton

Bush2's Texas twang I found fake and affected

 

[God's Truth]

Sorry to say but I find this hilarious. Mr. Trump thinks he commands the evangelical vote but clearly he has been left to expose his ignorance of, er, Judeo-christianity! I guess that's what happens when you fire too many advisors.

Surely you must agree that his job as a devout friend of all christians is to acknowledge his complete deference to your god, right? Obviously he is a sinner and should be thinking hard for the usual little examples of how he is always falling short. That's all he should have said.

More proof that you don't have any idea what a Christian is.

That's all he should have said. But here he has let his narcissism do the talking. I thought it would be the pandemic that would expose the absurdity of his everyone is sick of experts let's drain the swamp shtick, but it is more likely to be religious voters turning against his hypocrisy.

Mr. Biden will be meeting with his interior decorating team this week, no doubt. Duck egg blue for the Oval Office.

Stuart

Cuckoo

 

[ok doser]

Mr. Biden will be meeting with his interior decorating team this week, no doubt.

If he remembers who they are

 

[Right Divider]

If he remembers who they are

If he remembers who he is.

 

[God's Truth]

Since Gabbard was brought up...just thinking about how she told Harris she owes a lot of people an apology for prosecuting them for smoking marijuana, since Harris bragged about smoking pot herself; and, it was such a good slam when Gabbard exposed Harris for putting parents in jail for their rebellious teenagers missing school.

 

[7djengo7]

My wife's bosses are all surgeons!

Really? Fascinating. What, respectively, are their favorite shoe brands? And, please list their heights in order, from tallest to shortest. Be sure to say hi to them for me--except for the one whose name is Jerry (in case one of them is named Jerry). Thanks for the info.

 

[ok doser]

My wife's bosses are all surgeons!

they must keep her in stitches :chuckle:

 

[7djengo7]

Seriously, do not attempt a career in science, medicine or anything associated...

Stay safe!

LOL

Nice virtue signaling. Yeah, I get it: "I'm with science, and you're not! Hurrah, hurrah, hurrah!" Yay for you.

It's funny that you and eider profess to know that hand sanitizer kills "nCOV 2019" when you apply it to your hands, despite your admission that you do not even have a scientific way to know that "nCOV 2019" is on your hands (either before, or after, using hand sanitizer), in the first place. Guess what: If there is no "nCOV 2019" on your hands, then, if hand sanitizer used on your hands kills anything on your hands, one thing that it does not kill is "nCOV 2019". Pretty simple: no "nCOV 2019", no "nCOV 2019" being killed.

All I'm asking is, is there a scientific way to know that "nCOV 2019" is on your hands? If there is no scientific way to know that "nCOV 2019" is on your hands--whether before, or after, hand sanitizer has been applied to them--then, obviously, there is no scientific way to know that "nCOV 2019" is being killed when using hand sanitizer on your hands.

Contrary to what masses of media-enthralled imbeciles may think, nobody is a hero, nor even particularly virtuous, for carrying around hand sanitizer and rubbing it on his/her hands all day long.

Here's a question for you and eider to stonewall against:

I "nCOV 2019" on your hands right now? Yes or No.

 

[Stuu]

All I'm asking is, is there a scientific way to know that "nCOV 2019" is on your hands? If there is no scientific way to know that "nCOV 2019" is on your hands--whether before, or after, hand sanitizer has been applied to them--then, obviously, there is no scientific way to know that "nCOV 2019" is being killed when using hand sanitizer on your hands."nCOV 2019" on your hands right now? Yes or No.

Science deals mostly in inference. What you would be asking for is deduction based on your specific case. You could have your hands tested and the PCR technology would tell you whether you had viruses on your hands or not. But it's not a great use of resources to generalise this test to everyone in the population curious about whether there are viruses on their hands. Just having some viruses on your hands is not in itself going to get you infected. You would have to touch your face or touch something going in your mouth to transfer the viruses onto the mucous membranes in there.

The experiment you outlined earlier has, pretty much, been done. The inference is that hand washing with soap for about twenty seconds will kill any coronaviruses, and the use of hand sanitiser for a bit longer will also kill coronaviruses.

Contrary to what masses of media-enthralled imbeciles may think, nobody is a hero, nor even particularly virtuous, for carrying around hand sanitizer and rubbing it on his/her hands all day long.

No indeed, that wouldn't be necessary. But washing your hands with soap after touching surfaces in public that have been touched by other people could do a great deal to slow the infection rate, which is important for protecting the capacity of the health system to give care to those most vulnerable to the effects of the disease.

Stuart

 

[jgarden]

Here's why Trump wants us all to go back to work

Given that hand washing and social distancing are the only strategies currently available to combat the spread of the virus, it is understandable that the medical authorities are doubling down in their efforts to educate the public!

Congress and the Administration would have done themselves a favor had they had followed the recovery model adopted by many European nations whereby businesses are being provided with forgivable loans as long as they retain and pay their existing staffs!

The US response came loo late, failed to provide clear guidelines to encourage businesses to retain their staffs and tended to rely on unemployment insurance rather than provide forgivable loan strategy whereby workers would continue to be paid by their employers!

That strategy would have taken bypassed governments having to deal directly with millions of unemployed workers by taking advantage of existing channels, given employees a greater sense of job security and kept the existing workforce in place to facilitate the economic startup!

 

[Stuu]

More proof that you don't have any idea what a Christian is.

Well maybe it takes one to know one, and I'm very certainly not one.

I'm sure you would agree that there are certain things politicians just can't say if they want to get elected. Whoever becomes the Democrat candidate will not get elected via speeches on topics of Democrat ideology. I would have thought evangelicals would not vote for someone who claims to be christian but is unclear about whether he really is a sinner or not, requiring the assistance of the Judeo-christian god or not.

Or are they mesmerised by the cult of personality?

Stuart

 

[jgarden]

Well maybe it takes one to know one, and I'm very certainly not one.

I'm sure you would agree that there are certain things politicians just can't say if they want to get elected. Whoever becomes the Democrat candidate will not get elected via speeches on topics of Democrat ideology. I would have thought evangelicals would not vote for someone who claims to be christian but is unclear about whether he really is a sinner or not, requiring the assistance of the Judeo-christian god or not.

Or are they mesmerised by the cult of personality?

Stuart

I was under the impression that the rules governing this Forum prevent members from passing judgement as to the sincerely of the religious beliefs of another member - unfortunately it appears that this is not being enforced!

I'm still trying to get my head around those Republican Governors that despite locking-down their states, they have exempted attending religious services as part of that ban - I wasn't aware that Dr. Fauci and the CDC have concluded that church attendance prevents the spread of COVIR-19!

 

[ok doser]

I was under the impression that the rules governing this Forum prevent members from passing judgement as to the sincerely of the religious beliefs of another member ....

what a retarded impression to be under

 

[ok doser]

Here's why Trump wants us all to go back to work

Given that hand washing and social distancing are the only strategies currently available to combat the spread of the virus, it is understandable that the medical authorities are doubling down in their efforts to educate the public!

Congress and the Administration would have done themselves a favor had they had followed the recovery model adopted by many European nations whereby businesses are being provided with forgivable loans as long as they retain and pay their existing staffs!

The US response came loo late, failed to provide clear guidelines to encourage businesses to retain their staffs and tended to rely on unemployment insurance rather than provide forgivable loan strategy whereby workers would continue to be paid by their employers!

That strategy would have taken bypassed governments having to deal directly with millions of unemployed workers by taking advantage of existing channels, given employees a greater sense of job security and kept the existing workforce in place to facilitate the economic startup!

what's Canada doing?

 

[Stuu]

I was under the impression that the rules governing this Forum prevent members from passing judgement as to the sincerely of the religious beliefs of another member - unfortunately it appears that this is not being enforced!

Everyone who is being honest is espousing their sincerely held beliefs. Would this rule ban the use of questions that begin "Do you really sincerely believe...?".

But I think a central role of forums like this is to give religious fundamentalists a place in which their beliefs can be reinforced. They have doubts about whether it could be really true that a man walked again after execution, or was born of only one parent, or walked on the surface of water, or whether liberal types are really retards. But here they find succor, and encouragement to put up those intellectual shutters. So the rule would be important from that point of view. OTOH, you would think that a faith which cannot sustain question is not much practical use. So ToL would be mindless if the rule was enforced.

Wasn't the old motto something like 'Open rebuke is better that love concealed', or some such bullish rhetoric? Maybe this would be the ToL where you can be called moron, retard and cripple but not Thomas.

I'm still trying to get my head around those Republican Governors that despite locking-down their states, they have exempted attending religious services as part of that ban - I wasn't aware that Dr. Fauci and the CDC have concluded that church attendance prevents the spread of COVIR-19!

You will have noticed they still insure their churches against disasters, although maybe the policies exclude Acts of God.

Stuart

 

[Arthur Brain]

Now Trump doesn't want to wear a mask despite recommendations, because it's voluntary...hmm, unlike lockdown measures. He doesn't "see" it doing it for himself behind that "great resolute desk"...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7pvegQFvnY

 

[Stuu]

Here's why Trump wants us all to go back to work

Given that hand washing and social distancing are the only strategies currently available to combat the spread of the virus, it is understandable that the medical authorities are doubling down in their efforts to educate the public!

Congress and the Administration would have done themselves a favor had they had followed the recovery model adopted by many European nations whereby businesses are being provided with forgivable loans as long as they retain and pay their existing staffs!

The US response came loo late, failed to provide clear guidelines to encourage businesses to retain their staffs and tended to rely on unemployment insurance rather than provide forgivable loan strategy whereby workers would continue to be paid by their employers!

That strategy would have taken bypassed governments having to deal directly with millions of unemployed workers by taking advantage of existing channels, given employees a greater sense of job security and kept the existing workforce in place to facilitate the economic startup!

By comparison with the politics of my country, a former British colony also but one with the good sense not to have given up the noble game of cricket, the Democratic party is a traditional centre-right economically neoliberal organisation, with no prospect of election to government on any other platform. So that means there is no US mainstream party that would form a government interested in overcoming Americans' paranoia and really building up public services to the extent enjoyed by most of the rest of the Western world.

In the past the United States has had major public investment in times of crisis. Can't see that happening today. People don't seem to understand the relationships between government spending, debt, and levels of economic activity.

Stuart

 

[ok doser]

Now Trump doesn't ....

dude

unplug

ignore Trump the same way you ignore every other leader in the world who is dealing with this

worry about yourself and your mortality

turn to God

pray

 

[God's Truth]

Well maybe it takes one to know one, and I'm very certainly not one.

I'm sure you would agree that there are certain things politicians just can't say if they want to get elected. Whoever becomes the Democrat candidate will not get elected via speeches on topics of Democrat ideology. I would have thought evangelicals would not vote for someone who claims to be christian but is unclear about whether he really is a sinner or not, requiring the assistance of the Judeo-christian god or not.

Or are they mesmerised by the cult of personality?

Stuart

A person has to admit they are a sinner to get saved, and then they repent of their sins and then live their life training themselves to do right and not sin. A Christian isn't supposed to keep saying they are a sinner. Christians aren't sinners in Christ. Christians are washed clean and do what they can to live up to that.

As for Trump, I'm not going to say whether I think he is one or not.