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			<title>Reals sells cell phones by the sea shore.</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Literally! I am now in the business of mobile phones at a beachside location. 
 
So I'm curious; *What's popular nowadays?* :think: 
 
Are you rockin a basic phone or a smartphone? Do you prefer iOS, Android, Windows, or Blackberry?  
 
I won't inquire what carrier you have here, just for privacy...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Literally! I am now in the business of mobile phones at a beachside location.<br />
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So I'm curious; <b>What's popular nowadays?</b> :think:<br />
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Are you rockin a basic phone or a smartphone? Do you prefer iOS, Android, Windows, or Blackberry? <br />
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I won't inquire what carrier you have here, just for privacy an all. I will also avoid advertising my own company too much if it comes up!<br />
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And of course if you have any technical questions or need advice about phones, apps, etc, I will try and do the best I can to help out. ;)<br />
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I personally just went from a flip-phone to a Lumia 900. Never going back!</div>

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			<title>Are you aware how Abraham came to be promised the Spirit by God?</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 23:28:04 GMT</pubDate>
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Are you aware how Abraham came to be promised the Spirit by God?  
 
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<br><center><table border=1 width=90% cellpadding=10 bgcolor="#ffffff" style="border-collapse: collapse"><tr><td><font size=2>Are you aware how Abraham came to be promised the Spirit by God? <br />
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<font color="Green">Romans: 4 verses: 5 to 9</font> confirmed that God justified the ungodly for Abraham and his seed. By Abraham's absolute willingness to transgress a law in the Ten Commandments (to obey Him), God glorified him and gave him and his seeds the promise to the Spirit, which is the <b><u>only path</u></b> to salvation and deliverance. The ungodly is the transgression of Ten Commandments <b><font color="Green">(read, Romans: 4 verses: 5 to 9)</font></b>. <br />
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This established God's standard for righteousness of God without laws <b><font color="Green">(re. Romans: 3 verse: 21)</font></b>. Righteousness of God without the law is actually: righteousness of God with God given liberty and justification to transgress all social, moral and religious ideals and laws (including the Ten Commandments) and not get sin. <br />
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This is accessed and achieved when one is led into all of one's works by unconditionally obeying precisely what the Spirit of Jesus has in mind for one to pray for, say and do, as discerned within one's own hearts or spirit <b><font color="Green">(re. Romans: 8 verses: 14, 26 &amp; 27)</font></b>. Then one can transgress (break) any or all social, moral or religious law (like the Ten Commandments) and not get sin but be glorified and celebrated by God. <br />
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Only Satan would deny this Truth and so blasphemy the Spirit. </font></td></tr></table></center><br><br />
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Abraham's seed are under the New Testament. This is righteousness of God without any law <b><font color="Green">(re. Romans: 3 verse: 21)</font></b>. This is the gospel of un-circumcision which was committed onto Paul. Paul commission is according to the Spirit. <br />
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People under Paul's commission get All their guidance and knowledge directly, individually privately and intuitively from the Spirit through their own heart or spirit. They do not use the written scriptures or any laws or commandments (all of these were deliver through one's natural man or physical side). Those in Paul's commission have intuitive direct communion with the Spirit and the Spirit pass all knowledge <b><font color="Green">(re. Ephesians: 3 verses: 16, 17, &amp; 19 and 1 Corinthians: 2 verses: 9 to 14 and John: 16 verses: 7 &amp; 13)</font></b>. Often time what the Spirit has in mind for one to pray for say and do requires one to transgress prevailing social, moral and religious ideals and laws (including the Ten Commandments). When those under the gospel of un-circumcision do this they get no sin but are glorified by God and are under grace of God and are perpetually save and delivered. <br />
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Paul's commission is for those whose hearts are not waxed gross <b><font color="Green">(re. Matthews: 13 verses: 10 to 16)</font></b>. God sent the Spirit of Jesus into the hearts of those under the law so that they might become adopted children of God <b><font color="Green">(re Galatians: 4 verses: 5 &amp; 6)</font></b> Since their hearts are not waxed gross (i.e. not covered over) they can access guidance by the Spirit of Jesus within their own heart, as promised to Abraham and his seed. <br />
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To back this up Jesus confirmed through Paul, in <b><font color="Green">Galatians: 3 verses: 21 &amp; 22</font></b>: &quot;if there was a law or a commandments given that could give life, then righteousness would have been by law. However there in <font size="+1"><b><u>none</u></b></font>. Not even the Ten Commandments giveth life.&quot; Therefore not even Jesus' Commandments giveth life. They all killeth. All laws or commandments killeth. <br />
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Then there are those unfortunate people whose hearts are waxed gross <b><font color="Green">(re. Matthews: 13 verses: 10 to 16)</font></b>. Since their hearts are waxed gross (covered over or blocked from their awareness), they cannot access guidance under the Spirit (as was promised to Abraham and his seeds). They are 'the dead' in Jesus request that we 'let the dead bury their dead'. <br />
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For these unfortunate people there is righteousness under physically delivered scriptures and physically delivered laws (i.e. under the Ten Commandments and the Love Commandments etc.). They cannot be led intuitively through their own spirit so they must get all their guidance and information through their physical side or natural man. This approach to guidance is under the gospel of circumcision which was committed on to Peter. Jesus Commandments were added to those which Peter would use. These are not for Paul's commission. Peter commission is under physically delivered things  <br />
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However all these things which a person come to know through physical hearing and physical reading are not the things which God has prepared for one, even though these include the scriptures, the Ten Commandments, the Love commandments.<br />
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Jesus confirmed <b>unequivocally</b> in <b><font color="Green">1 Corinthians: 2 verses: 9 to 14</font></b> that things like Truth etc. which God has prepared for His chosen people to receive are not deliver by physical hearing and physical reading. Eyes do not see these nor does ears hear them nor do these thing come to one's heart through that path way. These things (of God and from God) are delivered only by the Spirit which God sent into the hearts of humans <b><font color="Green">(re. Galatians: 4 verses: 5 &amp; 6)</font></b>. <br />
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Jesus also confirmed unequivocally that He had to go away physically so that the Spirit of Truth will come and guide His disciples to <b><u>All</u></b> Truth <b><font color="Green">(re. John: 16 verses: 7 &amp; 13)</font></b><br />
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Jesus also confirmed that Now (for the past 2000 odd years) the Lord in that Spirit which God sent into the hearts of those under the law <b><font color="Green">(re. 2 Corinthians: 3 verse: 17)</font></b><br />
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These two revelations confirms unequivocally that now (for the past 2000 odd years), Jesus in the flesh and the deliveries which Jesus made though physically spoken and physically written words are not the lord. The Lord is Jesus in His Spirit and the things which He delivers intuitively, privately and individual to us from His Spirit to our spirits or hearts.  <br />
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As you should be able to note, it is confirmed from many sources in the KJV N.T. and also unequivocally confiremd by Jesus that children of God get All their guidance and knowledge directly from the Spirit within their own heart. Only children of the flesh (i.e. those with hearts that are waxed gross, i.e. &quot;the dead&quot;) must rely on the physically delivered and physically written scriptures, laws and commandments etc. <br />
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The dead cannot have any thing come to them through their spirit or heart. Their domain is the scriptures, laws and commandment. All of these are delivered (or come) to followers through their physical side, i.e. through their physical hearing and/or physical reading. These are all deliver to them through their physical or carnal side, even by Jesus. <br />
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It is absolutely different for the spiritually aware. They are led by the Spirit and where the Spirit is there is liberty to transgress all laws and commandments<b><font color="Green">(re. 2 Corinthians: 3 verse: 17 and Romans: 4 verses: 5 to 9)</font></b>. All thing for the spiritually aware are deliver though their spirit or heart directly and intuitively from the Spirit of Jesus and not by physically spoken or physically written words, (even by Jesus when He was on physically on earth). <br />
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Wake up and smell the aroma of Truth. The hour is at hand. This is Truth being delivered now in the fullness of time (i.e. in these last days) in totality, accuracy and clarity for All to know. Truth is no longer hidden. It will never be hidden again. Those who embrace Truth at this time will be last to be called but the first chosen.<br />
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Those who deny this blasphemy the Spirit and they will be left with or sent to, Satan/Peter so that they might stop their blaspheming ways and so that their spirits may be saved in the day of Lord Jesus <b><font color="Green">(re. 1  Corinthians: 5 verse: 5 and 1 Timothy: 1 verse: 20)</font></b>. They will not be privy to Paul's New Testament commission. </blockquote></blockquote></font></div>

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			<title>Major Breakthrough: Omega admits that Jesus is Jehovah</title>
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Won't  Coyote be surprised when he sees *Jesus coming* with  
 
His Angels and Saints *to land on the Mount of Olives* and  
 
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				<div style="font-style:italic">Hey Oatmeal,<br />
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Won't  Coyote be surprised when he sees <font size="4"><b>Jesus coming</b></font> with <br />
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His Angels and Saints <font size="4"><b>to land on the Mount of Olives</b></font> and <br />
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</div>It's funny you should say this because Zechariah says that <b>Jehovah</b> shall stand on the Mt. of Olives.<br />
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<font color="blue">Then <b>JEHOVAH</b> will go forth<br />
And fight against those nations,<br />
As He fights in the day of battle.<br />
4 And in that day <b>HIS FEET</b> will stand on the Mount of Olives,</font><br />
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You're saying that <b>Jesus is Jehovah</b>! You have made my day! <img src="http://www.pic4ever.com/images/49lpmxx.gif" border="0" alt="" /></div>

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			<title><![CDATA[Falling Backwards into "Right"]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 20:31:43 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[*Falling Backwards into "Right"* (http://kgov.com/bel/20120515) 
 
This is the show from Monday, May 15th 2012. 
 
*SUMMARY*: 
 
** Dump Starbucks*: Bob & co-host Doug McBurney (http://theweeklyworldview.com) take note of the burgeoning DUMP STARBUCKS (http://www.dumpstarbucks.com/) boycott...]]></description>
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<b>* Dump Starbucks</b>: Bob &amp; co-host Doug <a href="http://theweeklyworldview.com" target="_blank">McBurney</a> take note of the burgeoning <a href="http://www.dumpstarbucks.com/" target="_blank">DUMP STARBUCKS</a> boycott campaign stemming from Starbuck&#8217;s <a href="http://www.wnd.com/2012/05/starbucks-going-gay-is-profitable/?cat_orig=us" target="_blank">aggressive</a> promotion of all things immoral.<br />
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* <b>The Accidental Conservatives</b>: Colorado&#8217;s Republican legislature orchestrated a rear guard action to <a href="http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_20624090/colorado-civil-unions-bill-killed-before-reaching-house" target="_blank">delay</a> the onset of legal homosexual marriage, but failed to do anything to establish the reason homo marriage, (not to mention <a href="http://www.kgovstore.com/servlet/Detail?no=57" target="_blank">homosexuality</a>) must be opposed.<br />
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* <b>Et tu Marco?</b> Even the great conservative hope Marco Rubio has been <a href="http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/rubio-obama-gay-marriage/2012/05/15/id/439131" target="_blank">mis-educated</a> by the modern church and cannot bring himself to state simply that homosexual marriage is morally wrong, citing &#8220;personal&#8221; beliefs &amp; &#8220;majority&#8221; votes instead of God and the Bible.<br />
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* <b>Personhood signature Resource</b>: Find out about events all over Colorado at which you can gather signatures for Colorado&#8217;s Personhood Initiative at the Colorado Personhood Coalition Events <a href="http://personhoodco.com/calendar/" target="_blank">Calendar</a>! <br />
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<b>The Truth on Romney and Homosexual Marriage in this Popular YouTube</b>: Four talk show hosts, Bob Enyart, Bill Keller, Gregg Jackson, and Steve Deace, try to get the truth out of Ann Coulter in American RTL's <a href="http://anncoulterapology.com/" target="_blank">Ann Coulter Hang-ups</a> YouTube video: <br />
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<b>Today's Resource</b>: Have you seen the <a href="http://www.kgovstore.com/servlet/Categories?category=All+Products%3AGovernment" target="_blank">Government Department</a> at our KGOV Store? We are featuring Bruce Shortt's vitally-important book, <a href="http://www.kgovstore.com/servlet/Categories?category=Departments%3AGovernment" target="_blank">The Harsh Truth about Public Schools</a>. And also, check out the classic <a href="http://www.kgovstore.com/servlet/Detail?no=73" target="_blank">God's Criminal Justice System</a> seminar, <a href="http://www.kgovstore.com/servlet/Detail?no=17" target="_blank">God and the Death Penalty</a>, <a href="http://www.kgovstore.com/servlet/Detail?no=21" target="_blank">Live from Las Vegas</a>, and <a href="http://www.kgovstore.com/servlet/Detail?no=47" target="_blank">Bob on Drugs</a> DVDs, and ARTL's powerhouse <a href="http://www.kgovstore.com/servlet/Categories?category=Departments%3AGovernment" target="_blank">Focus on the Strategy</a> video resources!</div>

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			<description>Is it Moses and Elijah? 
 
Is God going to first bring back to life Moses and Elijah? 
 
Are they the Heads of Two Churches? 
 
Are they Cruciform and Oatmeal:drum: 
 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Is it Moses and Elijah?<br />
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Is God going to first bring back to life Moses and Elijah?<br />
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Are they the Heads of Two Churches?<br />
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Are they Cruciform and Oatmeal:drum:<br />
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Or Omega and LetsArgue:sheep:<br />
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Or Spitfire and Bybee:chew:<br />
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Who do you think that they are ?<br />
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			<title>An Equal Opportunity Basher</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 20:17:11 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[*An Equal Opportunity Basher* (http://kgov.com/bel/20120514) 
 
This is the show from Monday, May 14th 2012. 
 
*SUMMARY*: 
 
** The Lesser of Two Evils on KHOW Radio*: Bob Enyart replies to  emails to BEL from today's inbox from Gary, and Paul, and from one of the world's top five pro-life...]]></description>
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<b>* The Lesser of Two Evils on KHOW Radio</b>: Bob Enyart replies to  emails to BEL from today's inbox from Gary, and Paul, and from one of the world's top five pro-life leaders. Also, Bob discusses  Colorado's special session committee hearing today on homosexual marriage (civil  unions) and how conservative Republican leaders and politicians are  terrified of uttering anything about homosexuals other than glowing compliments.<br />
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<b>* As Posted at AmericanRTL.org -- Mom of Baby with No Eyes</b>: Beautiful little Christian, made in God's image, loves life:<br />
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<b>Today's Resource</b>: Meet the Apostle John. He was the youngest of the Twelve. And at the time of this writing, he's now one of the last remaining. If you were an eyewitness to Christ's earthly ministry, what would concern you decades after the resurrection? From the battles that John fought we can learn lessons that will help us as we ourselves fight for the truth and battle false teaching within the church. By looking at &quot;the things that differ,&quot; we can know what details in John's three epistles applied to the circumcision believers of his day and which of his teachings apply directly to us. Available on this <a href="http://www.kgovstore.com/servlet/Detail?no=310" target="_blank">4-DVD Video Set</a> and also in audio on <a href="http://www.kgovstore.com/servlet/Detail?no=312" target="_blank">MP3-CD or MP3 Download.</a></div>

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			<title>papal infallibility</title>
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			<description>In Catholic theology, papal infallibility is one of the channels of the infallibility of the Church. The infallible teachings of the Pope must be based on, or at least not contradict, Sacred Tradition or Sacred Scripture. Papal infallibility does not signify that the Pope is impeccable, i.e.., that...</description>
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It seems to me that the Catholics are Worshipping the Institution<br />
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of the Roman Catholic Church which is just an Image of the Beastly Roman Government.<br />
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Re 13:15  And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, <br />
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that the image of the beast should both speak, <br />
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and cause that as many as would not worship <br />
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the image of the beast should be killed.</div>

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			<description><![CDATA[Just curious.  If Romney reeeealy believes that marriage has always been only between one man and one woman, does that mean that he is rejecting his polygamous, Mormon grandparentage that moved to Mexico because they were being "persecuted" for being polygamists?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Just curious.  If Romney reeeealy believes that marriage has always been only between one man and one woman, does that mean that he is rejecting his polygamous, Mormon grandparentage that moved to Mexico because they were being &quot;persecuted&quot; for being polygamists?</div>

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			<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 16:31:00 GMT</pubDate>
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ROMNEY: &quot;America counted on President Obama to rescue the economy, tame the deficit and help create jobs. Instead, he bailed out the public sector, gave billions of your dollars to the companies of his friends, and added almost as much debt as all the prior presidents combined.&quot;<br />
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THE FACTS: Hardly. Presidents from George Washington through George W. Bush ran the national debt up to $10.62 trillion, the amount it was on the day Obama took office. Today, it is $15.67 trillion, according to the Treasury Department's Bureau of Public Debt. So it has gone up by $5.05 trillion under Obama. That's roughly half of the amount amassed by all the other presidents combined.<br />
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In short, the debt has gone up by about half under Obama. Under Ronald Reagan, it tripled.<br />
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<a href="http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/05/15/in-iowa-romney-decries-a-prairie-fire-of-debt/" target="_blank">http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2...-fire-of-debt/</a><br />
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<a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/15/mitt-romney-debt-speech-inferno_n_1519253.html" target="_blank">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1519253.html</a></div>

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			<title>John Piper: The Justification of God</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 16:19:01 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[AMR challenged me to get and read Dr. John Piper's book, "The Justification of God" and his explanation of Romans 9:1-23, and I am in the process of doing so. 
 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>AMR challenged me to get and read Dr. John Piper's book, &quot;The Justification of God&quot; and his explanation of Romans 9:1-23, and I am in the process of doing so.<br />
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Along the way, I'll be posting things that I find in the book to agree and disagree with.<br />
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In the former column, Dr. Piper states that Paul speaks of an &quot;Empirical-historical Israel&quot; and an &quot;escahtological Israel.&quot;  In the sense that he is using &quot;eschatological&quot;, I do agree that we have &quot;two Israels&quot;, one who has rejected Christ, and another who has believed in Him, and that the promises given to the former are given to the latter. (pp8,9)<br />
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However, Dr. Piper's bias comes in not through some argument, but through parenthetical comment, two in the first ten pages.   The first is on page 8, where he writes about eschatological Israel &quot;(by which he means the Church, without regard to ethnic origins).&quot;, and again in the break of page 8 and 9, &quot;eschatological Israel (=the Church).<br />
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He make no attempt to support this assertion from the text at all.  Indeed, it is as though he knows that this simply isn't true, but needs it to be there so he can continue to support his theology.<br />
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The fact is that Paul is talking about the fate of his kinsmen according to the flesh.  All of them, and only them.  In fact, Piper makes a very nice case for exactly this, specifically dividing his kinsmen according to the flesh into two groups, those who remain kinsmen according to the flesh <i>only</i>, and those who have become children of the promise of Israel to receive eternal life.<br />
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Why is this the case?  Because Paul is making a case for God as to why He is just and righteous, in spite of the fact that those who are Paul's kinsmen according to the flesh only will not receive them.  The promises were not made to the Church.  The were made to all of Israel.  Yes, the gentiles receive them as God graciously allows us to join the New Covenant, but they were not made to us.<br />
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And this point is further made in Romans 11:1-10, where Paul makes the case that a remnant of Israel (not the Gentiles) have been chosen by grace.<br />
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Please do not misunderstand me, I am not an Acts 9 dispy.  Yes, the Gentiles <i>enter into the same Covenant</i>, as Paul states further down, [i]but the gentiles are <b>not</b> the subject of Romans 9-11, except in places where Paul mentions them for a specific purpose.<br />
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But for the purposes of Romans 9:1-23, nowhere are the gentiles in view.<br />
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And, as though Dr. Piper realizes this fact, we are cut off at verse 23, just short of where Paul does mention the Gentiles.  I'm not saying that this is an invalid cutoff point.  Indeed, it is a natural break.  But what follows certainly gives further support to my point: Paul only has his kinsmen after the flesh in view, those who believe and those who do not.<br />
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And given the extent to which he has emphasized the Calvinist doctrines of election and predestination in his introduction, I suspect this will become a major problem for Dr. Piper as we move along.</div>

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			<description><![CDATA[The TheologyOnline.com TOPIC OF THE DAY for May 16th, 2012 09:18 AM 
 
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Isn't it interesting how on TheologyOnline you might have an ally on one topic of debate yet that same ally is also an "enemy" on another topic of debate? Of course when I say enemy I...]]></description>
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Isn't it interesting how on TheologyOnline you might have an ally on one topic of debate yet that same ally is also an &quot;enemy&quot; on another topic of debate? Of course when I say enemy I don't necessarily mean a real enemy but just someone you disagree with.<br />
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<i>For instance&#8230;</i><br />
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<b>Regarding open theism:</b><br />
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Godrulz is my ally yet Jim Hilston is my enemy.<br />
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<i>Conversely&#8230;</i><br />
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<b>Regarding dispensationalism:</b><br />
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Godrulz becomes my enemy yet Jim Hilston is my ally.<br />
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The same two people yet they are both an ally or an enemy depending on the topic at hand.<br />
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<i>Here is another one&#8230;</i><br />
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<b>Regarding the value of Tim Tebow as an NFL QB:</b><br />
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Town Heretic is an ally and Nick M is an enemy. :)<br />
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<i>Conversely&#8230;</i><br />
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<b>Regarding the value of liberal governmental policies:</b><br />
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Town Heretic becomes a enemy while Nick M becomes my ally.<br />
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I find these sphere's of agreement and their overlap (or lack thereof) very interesting.<br />
:D <b>Tell me about some of your interesting TOL allies and enemies.</b><br />
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			<title>Get Out of Nazareth?</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 14:09:14 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[This question is for those who have been called specifically to pastor/preach/evangelize (knowing full well that all Christians are called to share the Good News, but hopefully those reading this will accept the distinction I'm making).   
 
When you knew that you knew that you were called, or set...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>This question is for those who have been called specifically to pastor/preach/evangelize (knowing full well that all Christians are called to share the Good News, but hopefully those reading this will accept the distinction I'm making).  <br />
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When you knew that you knew that you were called, or set apart, to preach the Word, and you considered this to be a call to full-time ministry, did you start where you were, or did you sense the need to get out of Nazareth?  I think of the familiar passage in Luke Chapter Four where Christ came to the Nazareth synagogue to claim that He was the fulfillment of the OT prophecies, and then He said that no prophet was accepted in his home town.  <br />
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I would be interested in knowing the experiences of those who are in full-time pastoral ministry or are full-time evangelists.  Thanks.</div>

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			<title>Christ our sacrifice, not our substitute</title>
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<b>CHRIST OUR SACRIFICE, NOT OUR SUBSTITUTE</b><br />
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<b>With regard to acceptability and law</b><br />
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A good friend of mine, an atheist, once remarked concerning the idea that Christ was the substitute for our sin: “seems pretty [<font size="1"><i>vulgarity</i></font>] arbitrary if you ask me”.<br />
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Vulgarity aside, he was correct: such idea is in fact quite misrepresentative of the constitution of the atonement. Accordingly, although such idea is never absent from any evangelical presentation today, it is never present in the evangelical addresses in the book of the Acts of the apostles.<br />
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And no wonder, for in the law it is written:<br />
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<i>“every man shall be put to death for his own sin” Deut 24:16</i><br />
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The same applies in modern secular law: you won’t find the courts ever agreeing to the payment by one man for another man’s felony: no matter how noble the bench might consider such an offering to be, there were nevertheless no <i>forensic connectivity</i> between the would-be substitute and the original offender: the latter must himself pay for his crime simply because it was he who committed it.<br />
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The idea of a forensic substitute is therefore invalid with regard to:<br />
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1. Common perception<br />
2. Jewish law <br />
3. Modern law<br />
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Moreover, the idea that God’s wrath will be satisfied by proactively punishing someone, renders God childish at best, and at worst an angry little man lacking in self-control. <br />
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The idea is in fact pagan, and can be found in history amongst primitive tribes who sacrificed to the gods.<br />
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<b>The wrong foundational paradigm</b><br />
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That which underpins the error we are discussing, is the idea the Christ died for everyone:  for it is in fact rather the case that Christ died only for His wife, and that He was therefore not even legally qualified to die for anyone else.<br />
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For just as a human father gives away his daughter to a suitable suitor, so too our Father. <br />
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Thus:<br />
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<i>“thine they were, and thou gavest them [to] me” John 17:6</i><br />
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: she who was given to Christ was the Father's at the outset: Christ would marry a specific 'woman': He would marry her who was betrothed to Him, and no-one else.<br />
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And so staying within the correct (marital) paradigm, in the law it is written, and concerning a wife’s self-initiated oaths to God:<br />
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<i>“But if [her husband] shall any ways make them void after that he hath heard them; then he shall bear her iniquity” Num 30:15</i><br />
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where we point out that the action of such husband constituted the <i>type</i> for God’s nailing of the law to the Cross of Christ, which law we had sought after and received unto condemnation in Eden, the law written on the heart of every human being and by which as a matter of conscience we are drawn to attempt to please God by our own efforts (See Rom 2:14,15).<br />
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Further - and what is pivotal to this discussion - the oaths of the wife toward God and the vetoing thereof by her husband, were a <i>private</i> matter: the ‘iniquity’ which would manifest as the wife’s resultant freedom to be the person she was – the beautiful inconsistencies and ‘inadequacies’ which come with being female - would be born by her husband privately: the general congregation of Israel would never become privy to the matter.<br />
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And so confirming with the NT:<br />
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<i>“Husbands, love your wives, and be not bitter against them” Col 3:19</i><br />
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: the husband’s death-to-self were to consist in the <i>absorbing</i> within himself of the difficulties of his wife, the chief point again being that the matter were not <i>forensically</i> delimited, but <i>institutionally</i>:  the ‘iniquity’ and the bearing thereof were a matter intrinsic to marriage, and not a matter for law.<br />
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Moving our focus then from the <i>type</i> to the <i>substance</i>, we find further in the NT:<br />
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<i>“Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave Himself for it” Eph 5:25</i><br />
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: just as the husband’s love is not here intended to relate his becoming a penal substitute for his wife, so too the love of Christ does not here relate His dying as a penal substitute for His wife: the role of the husband in both cases is rather to relate a love for his wife that is so great that she is never made aware of her shortcomings.<br />
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<i>“As far as the east is from the west, so far hath he removed our transgressions from us” Ps 13:12<br />
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“the blood of Christ [shall] purge your conscience from dead works” Heb 9:14</i><br />
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<b>The substance of the atonement</b><br />
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The ‘gap’ between God and His betrothed was infinite with regard to righteousness, and was related by way of the implication in the transmitting of the law to us:  the law was indeed <i>“not made for a righteous man” 1 Ti 1:9. </i><br />
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Chiefly, the gap consisted of the fact that we did not love God.<br />
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And yet we are told by the prophet that <i>“the government [(responsibility for our spiritual well-being)] shall be upon His shoulder”</i>, not ours, which accords with the paradigm we have been explicating: it was husbands rather than wives who were specifically commanded to <i>“love”</i> their spouses.<br />
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The substance of the atonement then is this:<br />
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Just as the husband of Numbers 30 made void the oaths his wife had made to God, so too Christ took away the law from over His wife, in so doing robbing Satan of any and all possible means by which he might accuse her.<br />
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<i>“for where no law is, there is no transgression” Rom 4:15<br />
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“Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin” Rom 4:8</i><br />
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That is, God in Christ emptied Himself of the difference between His betrothed and Himself. And because such difference was not merely notional, but actual, it would of necessity be manifested in a very tangible sacrifice.<br />
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For <i>“God is love” 1 John 4:8. </i><br />
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<i><b>Finale</b></i><br />
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<i>“Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross” Col 2:14</i><br />
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By this <i>“contrary to us”</i>, it is related that the law – that with which we, in similar vein to the woman of Numbers 30, had afflicted ourselves in the hope that we might quench the condemnation in our hearts – was in fact contrary to who we were.<br />
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For it is only by being free to be imperfect, that the woman is made perfect.<br />
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<i>“Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage” Gal 5:1</i><br />
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Amen.<br />
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<i>Complementary threads:</i><br />
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<b>The Constitution of the Atonement<br />
Understanding Romans 3:31<br />
The Calvinistic mechanism by which we are set free from the law</b></div>

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</div>Jesus' commandments were given only for the dead. (i.e. the spiritually dead) Those whose hearts are waxed gross are called 'the dead', in Jesus' instruction 'let the dead bury their dead'.<br />
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The following is a long write. However I suggest that you read it totally and slowly, taking in every little point. They are all <b><u><font color="Purple">absolutely</font></u></b> supported by KJV N.T. revelations. <br />
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Meshak, you are <b><u>blaspheming</u></b> scriptures, Jesus, the Spirit and Truth in one shot.<br />
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You blatantly, corruptly, boldly and Satanically deny Jesus revelation in <b><font color="Green">Mathews: 13 verses: 10 to 16</font></b> <br />
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It was clearly confirmed by Jesus in <b><font color="Green">Mathews: 13 verses: 10 to 16</font></b> that everybody who He met and delivered to was <font size="+1"><b><u>not</u></b></font> the same and they were not treated the same by Jesus. Everyone was not given to know the mystery of God's kingdom of heaven. His disciples were the chosen and only they were given to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. It was given by God for <b><u>no one else</u></b> to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven.  Truth = the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. <br />
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Everyone cannot be His servant of Truth. Every one cannot be His servant to deliver the mysteries of God kingdom of heaven. Because everyone was not given by God to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. This is clearly stated in <b><font color="Green">Mathews: 13 verses: 10 to 16</font></b>. Why would you want to blasphemy Jesus and this scriptures? <br />
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Although only a few (i.e. only Jesus disciples) were given by God to know Truth, yet Jesus delivered lot of things (which are all recorded in the KJV N.T.) to great masses of people who could <font size="+1"><b><u>not</u></b></font> be his servants (to deliver Truth). You are quoting from those things. Those things which you are quoting are things which Jesus delivered to those who were <font size="+1"><b><u>not</u></b></font> given to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. Those deliveries which Jesus made to the masses are <font size="+1"><b><u>not</u></b></font> the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. You are confusing those things with Truth (i.e. the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven). <b>And you are misguiding yourself and all who take you seriously.</b>  <br />
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God sent the Spirit of Jesus into the hearts of those under the law so that they might become adopted children of God <b><font color="Green">(re. Galatians: 4 verses: 5 &amp; 6)</font></b>. Jesus did not deliver the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven in physically spoken and physically written words. This cannot be done. This is confirmed unequivocally in <b><font color="Green">1 Corinthians: 2 verses: 9 to 14</font></b>. Not even Jesus could have done that. Jesus could do that only through His Spirit from within our hearts or spirits. This is why God sent His Spirit <b><u>there</u></b>. Jesus confirmed that he had to go away physically so that the Spirit of Truth will come onto them (i.e. the chosen, His disciples) and guide them to <font size="+1"><b><u><font color="Purple">All</font></u></b></font> Truth <b><font color="Green">(re. John: 16 verses: 7 and 13)</font></b>.<br />
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Jesus made known the path to Truth only to His disciples (once again in private among only them). He told them (just before his impending crucifixion) that, it is expedient that He physically go away, so that the Spirit of Truth (i.e. His Spirit) will come and guide them to All Truth <b><font color="Green">(re. John: 16 verses: 7 and 13)</font></b>. Then Jesus, through Paul confirmed that things of God, i.e. Truth cannot come to one in physically spoken or physically written words <b><font color="Green">(re. 1 Corinthians: 2 verses: 9 to 14)</font></b>. Again you blasphemy this revelation because you want to erroneously rely on the physically delivered words . . . . because you cannot get it from the Spirit.  However Truth can be got only directly and intuitively from the Spirit, though your own heart. <br />
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Then Jesus confirmed through Paul that God sent the Spirit of Jesus into the hearts of those under the laws so that they might become adopted children of God <b><font color="Green">(re. Galatians: 4 verses: 5 &amp; 6)</font></b>. Then Jesus through Paul confirmed that, <b><font color="Purple"><u>now</u></font></b> (i.e. for the past 2000 odd years) the Lord is that Spirit <b><font color="Green">(re. 2 Corinthians: 3 verse: 17)</font></b>.<br />
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Post here what you perceive to be Jesus' message in <b><font color="Green">Mathews: 13 verses: 10 to 16</font></b>. <b><font color="Purple">The disciples wanted to know from Jesus, why was He telling the public something different from what he was telling them in private among only them.</font></b>  . . . . because Jesus was doing just that. Jesus was delivering one thing to the spiritually aware (those whose hearts were <b><u>not</u></b> waxed gross) and another thing to 'the dead', i.e. the spiritually dead (i.e. those whose hearts were waxed gross). Which message would you want to hear and embrace?  The one for the spiritually dead or the one for the spiritual aware? Well the one you are quoting, relying on and promoting, is the one for 'the dead'.<br />
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If you are seeking Truth then look to those revelations which Jesus made to only His disciples, in private to only them For example in <b><font color="Green"> John: 16 verses: 7 &amp; 13 and Mark: 13 verses: 3 to 13 . . . .</font></b>. They were the chosen few of that time. They were given to know Truth. Don't you want to know Truth? Don't you want to know how come they were given to know Truth? Why were they chosen? In <b><font color="Green">Mathews: 13 verses: 10 to 16</font></b>, Jesus told them how and why people are given to know Truth (i.e. the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven). <br />
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Why were they (or anyone) given to know Truth? They were given to know Truth because their hearts or spirit were not waxed gross, i.e. not covered over. This means to be spiritually aware (i.e. to be aware of one's own spirit or heart, i.e. to not be 'the dead' in Jesus instruction, 'let the dead bury their dead'). This is confirmed unequivocally in <b><font color="Green">Mathews: 13 verses: 10 to 16</font></b>. Why would that matter? It mattered because they had to search within their own hearts to discern the Spirit of Jesus which God sent there. This is revealed unequivocally in <b><font color="Green">Galatians; 4 verses: 5 &amp; 6 and Romans: 8 verses: 26 &amp; 27</font></b>. Why? Because only this Spirit guide one to All Truth from within one's own heart or spirit. This is confirmed unequivocally in <b><font color="Green">John: 16 verses: 7 &amp; 13 and 1 Corinthians: 2 verses: 9 to 14</font></b>. <br />
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<b><font color="Green">John: 16 verses: 7 &amp; 13 and 1 Corinthians: 2 verses: 9 to 14</font></b> confirmed unequivocally that things of God like Truth (the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven) cannot come to one through physical hearing and physical reading. These things can come to one only intuitively and directly from the Spirit through one's own heart or spirit.<br />
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You may not like this because you have no clue what it means to have direct intuitive communion with the Spirit of Truth within your own heart. This is no reason to blasphemy scriptures generally and in particular these revelations from the KJV N.T. When you blasphemy these revelations, you blasphemy the Spirit and that is the <b><u>most serious transgression</u></b> . . . . .  worse than All others. <br />
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Do you need more? Is your slumber so deep? <br />
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<font size="+1">Check those revelations <b><font color="Green">from the KJV N.T.</font></b> (which I have quoted above) and tell me if they do not say <b><u><font color="Purple">exactly</font></u></b> what is quoted here.</font> <br />
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If you blasphemy you are sent to or stay with, Satan to correct your blaspheming ways <b><font color="Green">(1 Timothy: 1 verse: 20)</font></b>. Do you want to stay with or be with, Satan? Jesus set up a Satanic church so as to sent people there for their betterment. That is, so that they will stop their blaspheming ways and so that their spirits may be saved in the day of our Lord Jesus. This is confirmed unequivocally in <b><font color="Green">1 Corinthians: 5 verse: 5 and 1 Timothy: 1 verse: 20</font></b>. We know that this Satanic church was commissioned onto Peter who Jesus identified to be Satan. <br />
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Jesus' Christian church was commissioned onto Paul. This is an absolutely unseen (non physical) church. It operates through the (unseen) spirit of humans under the (unseen) Spirit of Jesus. Always has and always will. </blockquote></blockquote></font></div>

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