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  • #76
    Originally posted by George Affleck View Post
    How do you know this?
    He doesn't. Worse? His liberalism has infected CLEAR thinking. He "thinks" Genesis is figurative AND that the parable of the Good Samaritan is literal
    My New Years Resolution: 1 Peter 3:15
    Omniscient without man's qualification. John 1:3 "Nothing"
    Colossians 1:17 "Nothing" John 15:5 "Nothing"
    Mighty, ALL mighty (omnipotent). Revelation 1:8
    No possible limitation Isaiah 40:25 Joshua 24:15
    Infinite (Omnipresent) Psalm 145:3 Hebrews 4:13

    ? Yep

    Now to Him who is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think... Amen. -Ephesians 3:20 & 21

    ... when I became an adult, I set aside childish ways. Titus 3:10 Ephesians 4:29-32; 5:11

    Separation of church and State is not atheism "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights..."

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    • #77
      Originally posted by Vulcan Logician View Post
      Yeah, I guess you have a point. I can see how some people might actually do that. Maybe I should have just pointed out that it isn't commonplace, nor is it realistic to expect it from anyone.
      We've been inundated by insincerity claiming 'sincere.' IF you are sincere, I can talk you out of atheism. It is untenable. Most atheists here on TOL will NOT listen. They don't WANT to listen. I know there is a God. NOT ONE has ever had the fortitude, sincerity, or honesty to ask. Why? Easy: They don't care and have NO intention of wanting to see if it is true or not.

      Are you the exception to the rule? It'd be nice, but you have to realize we've been inundated by insincerity and casual indifference if not outright expressed disdain. Is there a 'point' to such conversation, bashing, debate?

      Whatever bed you make, that's the one you have to lie in at night. Welcome to TOL. I hope it is a profitable and worthwhile exchange. This is 'life' to me, no passing fancy. Vulcan's had a religion, oddly enough.
      My New Years Resolution: 1 Peter 3:15
      Omniscient without man's qualification. John 1:3 "Nothing"
      Colossians 1:17 "Nothing" John 15:5 "Nothing"
      Mighty, ALL mighty (omnipotent). Revelation 1:8
      No possible limitation Isaiah 40:25 Joshua 24:15
      Infinite (Omnipresent) Psalm 145:3 Hebrews 4:13

      ? Yep

      Now to Him who is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think... Amen. -Ephesians 3:20 & 21

      ... when I became an adult, I set aside childish ways. Titus 3:10 Ephesians 4:29-32; 5:11

      Separation of church and State is not atheism "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights..."

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      • #78
        Originally posted by 2003cobra View Post
        We don’t know the real story of man’s creation.
        Yea, hath God said...
        Religion is man's attempt to make himself acceptable to God. Christianity is God making man acceptable to Himself.

        It is true that Trump does not fit modern Republican principles, but that is because modern Republican principles have strayed far from conservatism. genuineoriginal

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        • #79
          Originally posted by Lon View Post
          He doesn't. Worse? His liberalism has infected CLEAR thinking. He "thinks" Genesis is figurative AND that the parable of the Good Samaritan is literal
          You seem to be always posting falsehoods.

          It makes me wonder how you came to such a combination of arrogance and delusion.

          Of course the story of the Good Samaritan is a fictional story Jesus told to make an important point.

          It is George that cannot being himself to say that the story of the Good Samaritan is not literal history. The fact that Jesus told it is literal history, while the events in the story are not. I wonder why George can’t acknowledge that.

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          • #80
            Originally posted by George Affleck View Post
            Yea, hath God said...
            God didn’t say Genesis 1 or Genesis 2.

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            • #81
              Why do you call me George?

              It should be obvious to you that there are two different name stories here.
              One is George and one is Affleck.
              They surely cannot be talking about the same person because they are both obviously different.
              They can't possibly explain different aspects pertaining to the naming of the same individual.
              Religion is man's attempt to make himself acceptable to God. Christianity is God making man acceptable to Himself.

              It is true that Trump does not fit modern Republican principles, but that is because modern Republican principles have strayed far from conservatism. genuineoriginal

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              • #82
                Originally posted by 2003cobra View Post
                You seem to be always posting falsehoods.

                It makes me wonder how you came to such a combination of arrogance and delusion.
                ...don't care what you wonder. Thanks for sharing, I guess, but it is forgotten.

                Originally posted by 2003cobra View Post
                Of course the story of the Good Samaritan is a fictional story Jesus told to make an important point.
                But arguing where the story takes place?

                Originally posted by 2003cobra View Post
                It is George that cannot being himself to say that the story of the Good Samaritan is not literal history. The fact that Jesus told it is literal history, while the events in the story are not. I wonder why George can’t acknowledge that.
                Honestly? I've never seen you ask him BUT you seem to OFTEN accuse people of not answering you, even when you've asked nothing. I've no idea why you hang out on a fundamental board. Perhaps something here strokes your pride Nothing else worth you being here for. There is no such thing as dialogue between you and anybody here. It is just posture posture posture, argue argue argue. I can't think what would draw you OR keep your interest. There is no meeting of minds.
                My New Years Resolution: 1 Peter 3:15
                Omniscient without man's qualification. John 1:3 "Nothing"
                Colossians 1:17 "Nothing" John 15:5 "Nothing"
                Mighty, ALL mighty (omnipotent). Revelation 1:8
                No possible limitation Isaiah 40:25 Joshua 24:15
                Infinite (Omnipresent) Psalm 145:3 Hebrews 4:13

                ? Yep

                Now to Him who is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think... Amen. -Ephesians 3:20 & 21

                ... when I became an adult, I set aside childish ways. Titus 3:10 Ephesians 4:29-32; 5:11

                Separation of church and State is not atheism "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights..."

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Lon View Post
                  ...don't care what you wonder. Thanks for sharing, I guess, but it is forgotten.


                  But arguing where the story takes place?



                  Honestly? I've never seen you ask him BUT you seem to OFTEN accuse people of not answering you, even when you've asked nothing. I've no idea why you hang out on a fundamental board. Perhaps something here strokes your pride Nothing else worth you being here for. There is no such thing as dialogue between you and anybody here. It is just posture posture posture, argue argue argue. I can't think what would draw you OR keep your interest. There is no meeting of minds.
                  See post 46.

                  I asked George if he thought the Good Samaritan was a historical figure. He has yet to answer.

                  I explained why I don’t think the Good Samaritan was a historical figure.

                  So, if you haven’t seen me ask him anything, it is because you haven’t read what I posted and just decided to insult instead.

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by George Affleck View Post
                    Why do you call me George?

                    It should be obvious to you that there are two different name stories here.
                    One is George and one is Affleck.
                    They surely cannot be talking about the same person because they are both obviously different.
                    They can't possibly explain different aspects pertaining to the naming of the same individual.
                    Interesting.

                    Any reason not to engage in real discussion seems to be acceptable to you.

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by Stripe View Post
                      ...When I arrived at TOL I had numerous views that were not founded in reality or reason. ...
                      You still do!
                      Galatians 5:22-23 (New International Version)

                      But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.

                      What are my fruits today?

                      Cityboy With Horses A blog about what happens when you say, "I Promise"

                      "Moral standards" are a lot like lighthouses: they exist to help us stay on course as we sail through life. But we have to steer BY them, but not directly AT them. Lest we end up marooned on the shoals of perpetual self-righteousness.

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by 2003cobra View Post
                        And the first creation story disagrees with you:

                        Then God said, “Let the earth put forth vegetation: plants yielding seed, and fruit trees of every kind on earth that bear fruit with the seed in it.” And it was so. 12 The earth brought forth vegetation: plants yielding seed of every kind, and trees of every kind bearing fruit with the seed in it. And God saw that it was good. 13 And there was evening and there was morning, the third day.
                        Nope.

                        That's exactly what I said:

                        Originally posted by George Affleck View Post
                        He created grass, trees, herbs and shrubs, with the ability to propagate, outside of the garden, on Day 3.
                        Religion is man's attempt to make himself acceptable to God. Christianity is God making man acceptable to Himself.

                        It is true that Trump does not fit modern Republican principles, but that is because modern Republican principles have strayed far from conservatism. genuineoriginal

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by George Affleck View Post
                          Nope.

                          That's exactly what I said:
                          What you wrote literally contradicts the Bible.

                          The second creation story says man was formed before any plants had sprung up.

                          Strange that you deny the facts of the scriptural text.

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by 2003cobra View Post
                            What you wrote literally contradicts the Bible.
                            No, I showed it lined up with it. You're in denial.

                            Originally posted by 2003cobra View Post
                            The second creation story says man was formed before any plants had sprung up.
                            There is no second creation story.
                            You are referring to an expanded view of Day 6 given in Gen. 2 which you mistakenly think is a different story.
                            Many have made the same mistake.

                            Originally posted by 2003cobra View Post
                            Strange that you deny the facts of the scriptural text.
                            Strange that what you make up in your head substitutes for facts with you.
                            Religion is man's attempt to make himself acceptable to God. Christianity is God making man acceptable to Himself.

                            It is true that Trump does not fit modern Republican principles, but that is because modern Republican principles have strayed far from conservatism. genuineoriginal

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by George Affleck View Post
                              No, I showed it lined up with it. You're in denial.


                              There is no second creation story.
                              You are referring to an expanded view of Day 6 given in Gen. 2 which you mistakenly think is a different story.
                              Many have made the same mistake.


                              Strange that what you make up in your head substitutes for facts with you.
                              I acknowledge your denial of the text. That leaves us no basis for discussion.

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by 2003cobra View Post
                                I acknowledge your denial of the text. That leaves us no basis for discussion.
                                The problem is your refusal to acknowledge that Genesis 2:5-6 is clearly speaking about cultivated fields and not plants growing in the wild.
                                Learn to read what is written.

                                _____
                                The people who are supposed to be experts and who claim to understand the science are precisely the people who are blind to the evidence.
                                ~ Dr Freeman Dyson

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