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  • BRVIII pre-debate poll - Were works ever required for salvation?

    Were works ever required for salvation?

    This is the topic of Battle Royale VIII - Jerry Shugart vs. *Acts9_12Out*.

    You can discuss the battle and/or the topic here. This thread is just a poll to see where idea of where the audience stands as the debate is about to begin. If you comment, just tell us how you answered. You may include a (brief) explanation of why you answered the way you did, but this thread isn't intended for debating the issue or discussing the battle. Again, that's what this thread is for.
    13
    Yes
    15.38%
    2
    No
    53.85%
    7
    Not sure / undecided
    30.77%
    4

    The poll is expired.

    BRXI: Should Christians support the Death Penalty?

  • #2
    I'm not sure.

    For the case of the Body of Christ, where there is no disticntion between Jew or Gentile, I don't think works are required for salvation. But for the Israelites (the Circumcised people) it seems that perhaps that before they were "cut off" that certain works were required for salvation.

    So I guess we will see who's argument makes more sense.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Sibbie

      I'm not sure.

      For the case of the Body of Christ, where there is no disticntion between Jew or Gentile, I don't think works are required for salvation. But for the Israelites (the Circumcised people) it seems that perhaps that before they were "cut off" that certain works were required for salvation.

      So I guess we will see who's argument makes more sense.
      To those under the Law, Jesus declared:

      ...that everyone who believes in him may have eternal life. "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Sibbie

        But for the Israelites (the Circumcised people) it seems that perhaps that before they were "cut off" that certain works were required for salvation.
        Sorry, I should have said "it seems...certain works were required for salvation" along with faith in God.

        But since Turbo said this thread is not for discussing or debating this issue, I won't add anything more.

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        • #5
          This verse keeps bashing me in the head.....

          Colossians 2:14 having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Knight

            This verse keeps bashing me in the head.....

            Colossians 2:14 having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.
            Okay...

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Sibbie

              Sorry, I should have said "it seems...certain works were required for salvation" along with faith in God.
              ...that everyone who believes in him may have eternal life. "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.

              In light of what Jesus says, do you still say, "It seems..."

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Knight

                This verse keeps bashing me in the head.....

                Colossians 2:14 having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.
                This verse deals with the LORD nailing our IOU's to the cross not the moral Law.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Knight

                  This verse keeps bashing me in the head.....

                  Colossians 2:14 having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.
                  not sure what you mean?

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                  • #10
                    No more works. Only faith for salvation.

                    Originally posted by Knight
                    This verse keeps bashing me in the head.....

                    Colossians 2:14 having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.
                    Wiped out the requirements that was against us . . . Taking it out of the way . . .He did the work for us (salvation) that we could not do, as stated in John 3:16, for then all we could do, is Romans 10:9-10, because Romans 10:14.

                    At Mount Transfiguration The Law (OT) and the Prophets (The Promise) met Grace (Jesus), "It is Finished.

                    It is "Like being feed at the Table of Mercy the Bread of Grace, "It is Done."

                    If it depended on my works, I would be finished (wiped out), and the act of salvation could not be done.

                    But praise be to the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world, because He came to seek and to save those who are lost, ME! Amen and Amen, Praise the Lord ! ! !

                    There I go again off in to shouting territory . . .

                    Thank the Lord, I'm resting in Jesus, my (our) author and finisher.
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                    .....O LORD my God, in You I put my trust. Psalm 7:1
                    .....To You, O LORD, I lift up my soul.
                    Psalm 25:1

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                    • #11
                      My previous post - Not sure if it okay to post, but I have had a shoutin' good day, I couldn't resist!
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                      .....O LORD my God, in You I put my trust. Psalm 7:1
                      .....To You, O LORD, I lift up my soul.
                      Psalm 25:1

                      Too often we underestimate the power of a touch, a smile, a kind word, a listening ear, an honest compliment, or the smallest act of caring, all of which have the potential to turn a life around. ~ Leo Buscaglia

                      The best portion of a person’s life -- are the little, nameless, unremembered acts of kindness and love. ~ William Wordsworth

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                      • #12
                        I m not sure actually i don't know.......................................

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                        • #13
                          I may be wrong but I feel that works were required in the OT for salvation and the works being Sacrifices but once Jesus died he did away with the requirements of a animal sacrifice because he took upon himself all the sins ever committed and ever to be commited. Jesus was the NT sin-offering he was the Burnt Offering and the Scapegoat

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                          • #14
                            How many works would you have to do. Where is it specified?
                            He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose.

                            Jim Elliot

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Bright Raven View Post
                              How many works would you have to do. Where is it specified?
                              Galatians 5

                              3 And I testify again to every man who becomes circumcised that he is a debtor to keep the whole law.


                              All the festivals, all the ordinances. Make atonement for their failures.
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                              Titus 1

                              For there are many insubordinate, both idle talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision, whose mouths must be stopped

                              Ephesians 5

                              11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them. 12 For it is shameful even to speak of those things which are done by them in secret

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