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  • Grandstand discussion: "Ghost's Views on The Nature of Christ"

    This thread is made available for members' opinions and comments regarding the new One on One Debate between AMR and Ghost entitled "Ghost's Views on The Nature of Christ."

    The debate can be found here.
    "The immutable God never learned anything and never changed his mind. He knew everything from eternity."

    " The difference between faith and saving faith are the propositions believed."
    Gordon H. Clark

    "If a man be lost, God must not have the blame for it; but if a man be saved, God must have the glory of it."
    Charles Spurgeon

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    Okay, to get things rolling here, we need to know whether or not there will actually be a one-on-one. We wait with great curiosity to see if the opening post receives an answer. Stay tuned!
    Galatians 5:22-23 (New International Version)

    But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.

    What are my fruits today?

    Cityboy With Horses A blog about what happens when you say, "I Promise"

    "Moral standards" are a lot like lighthouses: they exist to help us stay on course as we sail through life. But we have to steer BY them, but not directly AT them. Lest we end up marooned on the shoals of perpetual self-righteousness.

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    • #3
      Pass the popcorn and my bruxism splint.
      Know God and make Him known! (YWAM)

      They said: "Where is the God of Elijah?"
      I say: "Where are the Elijahs of God?" (Ravenhill "Why Revival Tarries")

      Rev. 1:17, 18; Jer. 9:23, 24

      "No Compromise!" (Keith Green)

      The Pledge: He died for me; I'll live for Him.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Son of Jack View Post
          I'm going to wait on that until I see if the one-on-one actually happens.

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          • #6
            So if the One on One doesn't happen can we use this thread to play fort in?
            Everyman is a voice in the dark.

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            • #7
              Can we start a pool to guess when Ghost will lose his cool and take his marbles and go home? Post #?
              Know God and make Him known! (YWAM)

              They said: "Where is the God of Elijah?"
              I say: "Where are the Elijahs of God?" (Ravenhill "Why Revival Tarries")

              Rev. 1:17, 18; Jer. 9:23, 24

              "No Compromise!" (Keith Green)

              The Pledge: He died for me; I'll live for Him.

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              • #8
                I think the Incarnation was a good choice. Very clear theology and a tough one to run from. Then again, ghost can be rather ghost-like, walking out the door with mystery, not to be seen again for months...
                Let's hope he enjoins the battle.

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                • #9
                  Boring, isn't it?

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                  • #10
                    I am rooting for Ghost. I do not believe that Jesus had two natures. I just cannot find any scriptural support for that view. Jesus is God the Son, God incarnate.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Inzl Kett View Post
                      I am rooting for Ghost. I do not believe that Jesus had two natures. I just cannot find any scriptural support for that view. Jesus is God the Son, God incarnate.
                      Well then, you hold to an unorthodox Christian view, for the historical church has always embraced the truths contained in the Chalcedonian Creed, that clearly defines Jesus Christ as being both fully Man and fully God.

                      Only heretics and false religionists have deviated or denied this teaching, since the time of Christ.

                      Jesus Christ Himself claimed to be the "Son of God," as well as the "Son of Man," if you require scriptural proofs.

                      Nang
                      "The immutable God never learned anything and never changed his mind. He knew everything from eternity."

                      " The difference between faith and saving faith are the propositions believed."
                      Gordon H. Clark

                      "If a man be lost, God must not have the blame for it; but if a man be saved, God must have the glory of it."
                      Charles Spurgeon

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                      • #12
                        It's a creed. Show where in the scripture it is.

                        Here is my creed on the subject:

                        John 1: 1-5

                        In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
                        The same was in the beginning with God.
                        All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
                        In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
                        And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.



                        Why do we need artificial creeds when we have the written Word?
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Inzl Kett View Post
                          It's a creed. Show where in the scripture it is.
                          I will defer to AMR who will be basing his arguments upon Holy Scripture during the One on One regarding this subject. Take notes. He will give you ample Scriptural evidence.

                          Why do we need artificial creeds when we have the written Word?
                          The church creeds are developed and founded upon Holy Scripture. That is their purpose. They are meant to protect and defend orthodox beliefs, according to Holy Scripture.

                          Anyone who deviates from the orthodox creeds, also deviates from Holy Scripture.

                          Nang
                          "The immutable God never learned anything and never changed his mind. He knew everything from eternity."

                          " The difference between faith and saving faith are the propositions believed."
                          Gordon H. Clark

                          "If a man be lost, God must not have the blame for it; but if a man be saved, God must have the glory of it."
                          Charles Spurgeon

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                          • #14
                            'Orthodox' also includes classical theism (Calvinism) which I reject because I cannot find enough support for it in the scripture. This Dual natures creed makes Jesus sound like He has two spirits. It says the same thing about humans as well--they have a soul and a spirit. This concept when applied to Jesus states that God took the place of the human soul when He assumed a human body. He still had a human spirit with Him in that body. I can find this no place in scripture.

                            My theology is just simply what you find in the first chapter of John--->In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.......And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Inzl Kett View Post
                              'Orthodox' also includes classical theism (Calvinism) which I reject because I cannot find enough support for it in the scripture. This Dual natures creed makes Jesus sound like He has two spirits. It says the same thing about humans as well--they have a soul and a spirit. This concept when applied to Jesus states that God took the place of the human soul when He assumed a human body. He still had a human spirit with Him in that body. I can find this no place in scripture.

                              My theology is just simply what you find in the first chapter of John--->In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.......And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us.
                              Inzl,

                              You and I are not debating. This thread is not meant to serve you and your views, or for me to defend my views . . . but it is solely to provide a forum to comment upon a specific One on One as it develops.

                              AMR and Ghost will debate.

                              Not you and I.

                              Nang
                              "The immutable God never learned anything and never changed his mind. He knew everything from eternity."

                              " The difference between faith and saving faith are the propositions believed."
                              Gordon H. Clark

                              "If a man be lost, God must not have the blame for it; but if a man be saved, God must have the glory of it."
                              Charles Spurgeon

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