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  • #16
    Originally posted by drbrumley
    Whats wrong with the U.S. Government. For starters, it is more socialist now then ever. This nation has thrown out the Constitution.



    As the Constitution says it should. The Constitution does not give the federal government power. It limits it.



    It can be good if done right. Unfortunately, it goes far beyond trade, to where we have global government advocates, pushing and succeeding in us losing more and more sovernity.


    I do like this form of government our founding fathers gave us. I like the monarchy system as well, but I understand why the Founding Fathers did what they did. Both require vigilance and we have fallen asleep at the wheel.
    Thanks doc. You know I need to go back and re-read the U.S. Constitution. It's been a while. I'll have some more questions for you soon...
    Your problem is not technology. The problem is YOU. You lack the will to change...You treat this planet as you treat each other. - Klaatu

    What are you talking about? There is no such thing as the "Mafia"......it doesn't exist. Just a bunch of lies told to defame honest hardworking Italians like myself. - TomO

    I will do you, let's see, goofy, wacky, and to the left side of the bell curve
    . -Ktoyou

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    • #17
      Originally posted by The Berean
      Thanks doc. You know I need to go back and re-read the U.S. Constitution. It's been a while. I'll have some more questions for you soon...
      I'll be waiting on em.
      The state — whatever its particular forms — always expresses itself as a collective form of property ownership. All political systems are socialistic, in that they are premised upon the subservience of individual interests to collective authority. Communism, fascism, lesser forms of state socialism, and welfarism, are all premised upon the state’s usurpation of privately-owned property. Whether one chooses to be aligned with the political "Left," "Right," or "Middle," comes down to nothing more than a preference for a particular franchise of state socialism.

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      • #18
        Hey Doc,

        I have another question for you. In several posts you've said that America today is no longer what the founding fathers had intended. So exactly what kind of country did they intend for America to be?
        Your problem is not technology. The problem is YOU. You lack the will to change...You treat this planet as you treat each other. - Klaatu

        What are you talking about? There is no such thing as the "Mafia"......it doesn't exist. Just a bunch of lies told to defame honest hardworking Italians like myself. - TomO

        I will do you, let's see, goofy, wacky, and to the left side of the bell curve
        . -Ktoyou

        I'm white. I'm not black. I can't convert to being black. It doesn't matter how much I want to become black. I could listen to rap and date fat white women all day; for all that, I'll still remain white.- Traditio

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        • #19
          Originally posted by The Berean
          Hey Doc,

          I have another question for you. In several posts you've said that America today is no longer what the founding fathers had intended. So exactly what kind of country did they intend for America to be?
          Well, where do I start.

          They intended for us to have liberty, to be a free people. The Federal Government was to be small. The states were to be thier own countries. Only centralized in the sense the Federal government can do its own just functions, which is protect the people and provide infrastruture. The Federal Government wasnt to have a National Education Association, an IRS, among other alphabet depts.

          The states were to raise armies to lend to the federal government in case a state was attacked. For you attack one, you attack us all. The reason for the declaration of war. To be unified.

          To worship God or not to worship God. Even God grants people that right. Some to glory, some to eternal damnation.

          Among other things if I get time to get into it tomorrow. But thats a good start.
          The state — whatever its particular forms — always expresses itself as a collective form of property ownership. All political systems are socialistic, in that they are premised upon the subservience of individual interests to collective authority. Communism, fascism, lesser forms of state socialism, and welfarism, are all premised upon the state’s usurpation of privately-owned property. Whether one chooses to be aligned with the political "Left," "Right," or "Middle," comes down to nothing more than a preference for a particular franchise of state socialism.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by drbrumley
            Well, where do I start.

            They intended for us to have liberty, to be a free people. The Federal Government was to be small. The states were to be thier own countries. Only centralized in the sense the Federal government can do its own just functions, which is protect the people and provide infrastruture. The Federal Government wasnt to have a National Education Association, an IRS, among other alphabet depts.

            The states were to raise armies to lend to the federal government in case a state was attacked. For you attack one, you attack us all. The reason for the declaration of war. To be unified.
            How much of the Federalist and Anti-Federalist papers have you read?
            "When the lights go out all over the world, when history seems headed only into a dead end and total disaster, God brings forth light. He changes the direction of history and regenerates men and redirects events and institutions to fulfill His purposes."

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            • #21
              Originally posted by WandererInFog
              How much of the Federalist and Anti-Federalist papers have you read?
              I've read some, but not all. Why do you ask?
              The state — whatever its particular forms — always expresses itself as a collective form of property ownership. All political systems are socialistic, in that they are premised upon the subservience of individual interests to collective authority. Communism, fascism, lesser forms of state socialism, and welfarism, are all premised upon the state’s usurpation of privately-owned property. Whether one chooses to be aligned with the political "Left," "Right," or "Middle," comes down to nothing more than a preference for a particular franchise of state socialism.

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              • #22
                Hey berean, I answered, any more questions?
                The state — whatever its particular forms — always expresses itself as a collective form of property ownership. All political systems are socialistic, in that they are premised upon the subservience of individual interests to collective authority. Communism, fascism, lesser forms of state socialism, and welfarism, are all premised upon the state’s usurpation of privately-owned property. Whether one chooses to be aligned with the political "Left," "Right," or "Middle," comes down to nothing more than a preference for a particular franchise of state socialism.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by drbrumley
                  Hey berean, I answered, any more questions?
                  Actually I do, but I'm reading the U.S. Constitution presently. I want to get a good feel for it and ask you some more questions. I'll get back to you soon.
                  Your problem is not technology. The problem is YOU. You lack the will to change...You treat this planet as you treat each other. - Klaatu

                  What are you talking about? There is no such thing as the "Mafia"......it doesn't exist. Just a bunch of lies told to defame honest hardworking Italians like myself. - TomO

                  I will do you, let's see, goofy, wacky, and to the left side of the bell curve
                  . -Ktoyou

                  I'm white. I'm not black. I can't convert to being black. It doesn't matter how much I want to become black. I could listen to rap and date fat white women all day; for all that, I'll still remain white.- Traditio

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                  • #24
                    This was a good thread...I sure do miss ole Billybob though..
                    [MENTION=2451]The Berean[/MENTION], still reading the Constitution? Just busting your chops....
                    The state — whatever its particular forms — always expresses itself as a collective form of property ownership. All political systems are socialistic, in that they are premised upon the subservience of individual interests to collective authority. Communism, fascism, lesser forms of state socialism, and welfarism, are all premised upon the state’s usurpation of privately-owned property. Whether one chooses to be aligned with the political "Left," "Right," or "Middle," comes down to nothing more than a preference for a particular franchise of state socialism.

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                    • #25
                      Billy Bob should be pardoned!

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by drbrumley View Post
                        This was a good thread...I sure do miss ole Billybob though..
                        [MENTION=2451]The Berean[/MENTION], still reading the Constitution? Just busting your chops....
                        doc, you brought back this old thread?!
                        Your problem is not technology. The problem is YOU. You lack the will to change...You treat this planet as you treat each other. - Klaatu

                        What are you talking about? There is no such thing as the "Mafia"......it doesn't exist. Just a bunch of lies told to defame honest hardworking Italians like myself. - TomO

                        I will do you, let's see, goofy, wacky, and to the left side of the bell curve
                        . -Ktoyou

                        I'm white. I'm not black. I can't convert to being black. It doesn't matter how much I want to become black. I could listen to rap and date fat white women all day; for all that, I'll still remain white.- Traditio

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by The Berean View Post
                          Doc, I got like a thousand questions for you but I'll start with a few:

                          1) What's wrong with the U.S. government?

                          2) How should the U.S. government be run?

                          3) Is globalism good or bad? Why?

                          4) What is the best type of government?
                          Can others answer them as well? Or should another thread be started?

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by JudgeRightly View Post
                            Can others answer them as well? Or should another thread be started?
                            Anyone can answer if they wish.
                            Your problem is not technology. The problem is YOU. You lack the will to change...You treat this planet as you treat each other. - Klaatu

                            What are you talking about? There is no such thing as the "Mafia"......it doesn't exist. Just a bunch of lies told to defame honest hardworking Italians like myself. - TomO

                            I will do you, let's see, goofy, wacky, and to the left side of the bell curve
                            . -Ktoyou

                            I'm white. I'm not black. I can't convert to being black. It doesn't matter how much I want to become black. I could listen to rap and date fat white women all day; for all that, I'll still remain white.- Traditio

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                            • #29
                              Good thread!

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by The Berean View Post
                                Doc, I got like a thousand questions for you but I'll start with a few:

                                1) What's wrong with the U.S. government?
                                Democrats.
                                Originally posted by The Berean View Post
                                2) How should the U.S. government be run?
                                The way it is.
                                Originally posted by The Berean View Post
                                3) Is globalism good or bad? Why?
                                Originally posted by drbrumley View Post
                                ...my accepted globalism isn't even globalism. It is this nation period.
                                Agreed.
                                Originally posted by The Berean View Post
                                4) What is the best type of government?
                                It's not a 'type,' it's, as DR said, 'this nation period.' There's only one, so it's not a 'type.'
                                Spoiler
                                Originally posted by JudgeRightly View Post
                                Can others answer them as well? Or should another thread be started?
                                Originally posted by The Berean View Post
                                Anyone can answer if they wish.
                                "Those who believe in Christ" are all the Christians, Catholic or not.

                                @Nee_Nihilo

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