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  • #31
    Hello Elia,

    You mentioned that this isn't your usual way of going about things, but that you did so out of desperation (if I remember what you said correctly). May I ask why? Why the hurry?

    EDIT: I can see that the desperation you mention came from your not knowing (at that time) how links were included in a post.

    Anyway, welcome to TOL. With which form of Judaism do you most closely associate?
    The Author of all watches over me, and I have a fine horse.


    Abortion is murder. Period.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Untellectual View Post
      Eliyahu,

      Welcome to TOL.

      Shalom,

      Jacob
      Bs'd

      SHALOM!


      Eliyahu
      Please be advised that everywhere in your translation of your OT when it is written "the LORD" with all capitals, then in the original Hebrew it says the four lettered name of God: Y-H-W-H. That name appears almost 7000 times in the Hebrew Bible.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by vegascowboy View Post
        Hello Elia,

        You mentioned that this isn't your usual way of going about things, but that you did so out of desperation (if I remember what you said correctly). May I ask why? Why the hurry?
        Bs'd


        Life is short. No time to waste.


        Eliyahu
        Please be advised that everywhere in your translation of your OT when it is written "the LORD" with all capitals, then in the original Hebrew it says the four lettered name of God: Y-H-W-H. That name appears almost 7000 times in the Hebrew Bible.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Elia View Post
          Bs'd


          Life is short. No time to waste.


          Eliyahu
          Thank you for the quick response! You responded before I edited my original post. Please see that post (#31) for more...
          The Author of all watches over me, and I have a fine horse.


          Abortion is murder. Period.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by vegascowboy View Post
            Hello Elia,

            You mentioned that this isn't your usual way of going about things, but that you did so out of desperation (if I remember what you said correctly). May I ask why? Why the hurry?

            EDIT: I can see that the desperation you mention came from your not knowing (at that time) how links were included in a post.
            Bs'd

            The problem was not not knowing, the problem is that you cannot post links until you have posted at least 5 posts on this board.

            So now I can.

            Anyway, welcome to TOL. With which form of Judaism do you most closely associate?
            The real kind. The orthodox kind.


            Eliyahu
            Please be advised that everywhere in your translation of your OT when it is written "the LORD" with all capitals, then in the original Hebrew it says the four lettered name of God: Y-H-W-H. That name appears almost 7000 times in the Hebrew Bible.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Elia View Post
              Bs'd

              SHALOM!

              Eliyahu
              Eliyahu,

              I hope to look over your links more when I have the time, perhaps this Sabbath.

              The word Christ comes from the Greek.

              Maybe you can help me with something.

              Would you say "Messiah" or "Moschiach"?

              Shalom,

              Jacob

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Elia View Post
                The orthodox kind.
                You would say orthodox, but not ultra-orthodox?
                The Author of all watches over me, and I have a fine horse.


                Abortion is murder. Period.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Untellectual View Post
                  Eliyahu,

                  I hope to look over your links more when I have the time, perhaps this Sabbath.
                  Bs'd

                  If you're Jewish, please don't break the shabbat by using your comp on the shabbat.

                  The word Christ comes from the Greek.

                  Maybe you can help me with something.

                  Would you say "Messiah" or "Moschiach"?

                  Shalom,

                  Jacob


                  Depends which language I"m speaking. When I speak English I say "messiah", when I speak Hebrew, then I say "meshiach".


                  Shalom!


                  Eliyahu
                  Please be advised that everywhere in your translation of your OT when it is written "the LORD" with all capitals, then in the original Hebrew it says the four lettered name of God: Y-H-W-H. That name appears almost 7000 times in the Hebrew Bible.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by vegascowboy View Post
                    You would say orthodox, but not ultra-orthodox?
                    Bs'd

                    Depends how you define "ultra-orthodox".

                    I'm in a community of black hats and black suits.



                    Eliyahu
                    Please be advised that everywhere in your translation of your OT when it is written "the LORD" with all capitals, then in the original Hebrew it says the four lettered name of God: Y-H-W-H. That name appears almost 7000 times in the Hebrew Bible.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Elia View Post
                      Bs'd

                      Depends how you define "ultra-orthodox".

                      I'm in a community of black hats and black suits.



                      Eliyahu
                      Thank you, sir.

                      I have a great deal of respect for people of your faith. I look forward to hearing what you have to say in the future.
                      The Author of all watches over me, and I have a fine horse.


                      Abortion is murder. Period.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by vegascowboy View Post
                        Thank you, sir.

                        I have a great deal of respect for people of your faith. I look forward to hearing what you have to say in the future.
                        Bs'd

                        I hope I won't disappoint you.



                        Eliyahu
                        Please be advised that everywhere in your translation of your OT when it is written "the LORD" with all capitals, then in the original Hebrew it says the four lettered name of God: Y-H-W-H. That name appears almost 7000 times in the Hebrew Bible.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Elia View Post
                          Bs'd

                          If you're Jewish, please don't break the shabbat by using your comp on the shabbat.
                          I used to not use electricity on Shabbat. I love the Jewish ways.
                          Depends which language I"m speaking. When I speak English I say "messiah", when I speak Hebrew, then I say "meshiach".
                          Thanks. I grew up thinking "Messiah" was Hebrew.

                          What does "meshiach" mean?
                          Shalom!

                          Eliyahu

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Elia View Post
                            Bs'd

                            Let's first get the verses straight:

                            Exo 25:8 And let them make me a sanctuary, that I may dwell in their midst.
                            Exo 29:45 I will dwell among the people of Israel and will be their God.
                            Exo 29:46 And they shall know that I am Y-H-W-H their God, who brought them out of the land of Egypt that I might dwell among them. I am Y-H-W-H their God.


                            And about God dwelling in the sanctuary:

                            "But will God really dwell on earth with humans? The heavens, even the highest heavens, cannot contain you. How much less this temple I have built!" 2 Chron 6:18


                            Eliyahu


                            Well, I don't know how else to take it but to understand that you are saying that the G_D of Israel really didn't mean what He said, when He said that He would 'dwell' in the midst of the people of Israel.

                            2Ch 7:1 As soon as Solomon finished his prayer, fire came down from heaven and consumed the burnt offering and the sacrifices, and the glory of Y-H-W-H filled the temple.
                            2Ch 7:2 And the priests could not enter the house of Y-H-W-H , because the glory of Y-H-W-H filled Y-H-W-H's house.


                            What was it that filled the house of Y-H-W-H. Is the glory of Y-H-W-H, not Y-H-W-H, Himself?
                            Jer 23:5 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD[YHVH], that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.
                            Jer 23:6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he[the Branch] shall be called, THE LORD[YHVH] OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Elia View Post
                              Bs'd

                              Shalom dear readers,

                              Hereby I want to tell you about the one true God, and give you shocking facts and data that has been suppressed by the Christian church for 2000 years. This was done by, amongst other things, burning Bible translators on the stake, mass burnings of Bible translations and corrupting Bible translations.
                              But now the truth is out. Look here:

                              That's a bummer, can't post links yet.

                              OK, here he is: http://mountzion.freewebpage.org

                              That says it all.

                              Please send this message to every Christian & messianic Jew you know and/or post it on every messageboard you can find. One way of loving God is making Him known amongst the nations. One way of loving your fellow man is revealing the falsehood he has been exposed to.


                              Eliyahu
                              Hey Elia, welcome to TOL!

                              Can you provide passages of Messianic prophecies that Jesus Christ did not fulfill?
                              "But by the grace of God I am what I am...for though I preach the gospel, I have nothing to glory of: for necessity is laid upon me; yea, woe is unto me, if I preach not the gospel!"
                              1 Cor. 15:10 & 1 Cor. 9:16

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Elia View Post
                                Bs'd. Hope I won't disappoint you. Eliyahu

                                In reference to your link: 1 Chronicles 3:10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16 mentions 18 generations, from Solomon to Jehoiachin (Jeconiah). However, Matthew 1:6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, only mentions 14 of them. That makes me wonder if that was in fact a mistake, right?

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