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    Mary: Mother of God

    https://www.catholic.com/tract/mary-mother-of-god
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    Fundamentalists are sometimes horrified when the Virgin Mary is referred to as the Mother of God. However, their reaction often rests upon a misapprehension not only of what this particular title of Mary signifies but also of who Jesus was—and of what their own theological forebears, the Protestant Reformers, had to say regarding this doctrine.

    A woman is a man’s mother either if she carried him in her womb or if she was the woman contributing half of his genetic matter or both. Mary was the mother of Jesus in both of these senses, because she not only carried Jesus in her womb but also supplied all of the genetic matter for his human body, since it was through her—not Joseph—that Jesus “was descended from David according to the flesh” (Rom. 1:3).

    Since Mary is Jesus’ mother, it must be concluded that she is also the Mother of God: If Mary is the mother of Jesus, and if Jesus is God, then Mary is the Mother of God. There is no way out of this logical syllogism.

    Although Mary is the Mother of God, she is not his mother in the sense that she is older than God or the source of her Son’s divinity, for she is neither. Rather, we say that she is the Mother of God in the sense that she carried in her womb a divine person—Jesus Christ, God “in the flesh” (2 John 7, cf. John 1:14)—and in the sense that she contributed the genetic matter to the human form God took in Jesus Christ.

    To avoid this conclusion, Fundamentalists often assert that Mary did not carry God in her womb, but only carried Christ’s human nature. This assertion reinvents a heresy from the fifth century known as Nestorianism, which runs aground on the fact that a mother does not merely carry the human nature of her child in her womb. Rather, she carries the person of her child. Women do not give birth to human natures; they give birth to persons. Mary thus carried and gave birth to the person of Jesus Christ, and the person she gave birth to was God.

    The Nestorian claim that Mary did not give birth to the unified person of Jesus Christ attempts to separate Christ’s human nature from his divine nature, creating two separate and distinct persons—one divine and one human—united in a loose affiliation. It is therefore a Christological heresy, which even the Protestant Reformers recognized. Both Martin Luther and John Calvin insisted on Mary’s divine maternity. In fact, it even appears that Nestorius himself may not have believed the heresy named after him. Further, the “Nestorian” church has now signed a joint declaration on Christology with the Catholic Church and recognizes Mary’s divine maternity, just as other Christians do.

    Since denying that Mary is God’s mother implies doubt about Jesus’ divinity, it is clear why Christians (until recent times) have been unanimous in proclaiming Mary as Mother of God.

    The Church Fathers, of course, agreed, and the following passages witness to their lively recognition of the sacred truth and great gift of divine maternity that was bestowed upon Mary.
    Read the church fathers comments: https://www.catholic.com/tract/mary-mother-of-god

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      ALL Christians know that Mary is the mother of God. Classicaly, to "mother" is to bear, and to "father" is to originate. So Mary bore Jesus, divine and human, in her womb, and is rightly called Mother of God, or "God bearer" (Theotokos). She did not originate God, she bore him in her womb.

      Remember what Elizabeth said: "And how has it happened to me, that the mother of my Lord would come to me?" (Luke 1:43). Who was the Lord to the Jews? God was.

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      • #4
        Sure, Mary was the mother of God (Jesus Christ).
        And the Holy Spirit played the role of His "father".
        But, nowhere in Scripture does it say to pray to Mary (for any reason).

        Ditto for any of the "saints" of the RCC and EOC.
        This title is ridiculous because the NT many times
        calls all true born-again believers "saints".
        "Do you not know that to whom you present yourselves slaves to obey,
        you are that one’s slaves whom you obey, whether
        (slaves) of sin leading to (eternal) death, OR
        (slaves) of obedience leading to righteousness?" (Romans 6:16)

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        • #5
          Jesus was fully divine and fully human. His divinity came from God the Father. Jesus' Mother Mary gave Jesus His humanity. Jesus' divinity came from the spiritual substance of God His Father making Jesus able to be sinless. Mary gave Jesus His humanity so Jesus could relate to our humanity.

          Thus Jesus was the perfect sacrifice for our sins, which put Jesus on the cross. Prior to that animals were sacrificed for their blood which God demanded for sins. Animals were used because they were incapable of sin.
          Last edited by Bradley D; June 27th, 2019, 08:44 PM.

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          • #6
            Hi and what is never seen by all , is the Jesus blood could NEVER co-mingle with Mary's blood as then Jesus blood would than be TINTED by human's blood!!

            dan p

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            • #7
              Strange how catholicism is so well rooted in robbery. Thank God for His Word in the flesh sent to us so we can be free from it.
              Last edited by Cntrysner; July 6th, 2019, 11:40 AM. Reason: typed to fast

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              • #8
                Catholic Tradition
                He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose.

                Jim Elliot

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by ZacharyB View Post
                  Sure, Mary was the mother of God (Jesus Christ).
                  And the Holy Spirit played the role of His "father".
                  But, nowhere in Scripture does it say to pray to Mary (for any reason).

                  Ditto for any of the "saints" of the RCC and EOC.
                  This title is ridiculous because the NT many times
                  calls all true born-again believers "saints".
                  Nowhere in Scripture does it say the word "Trinity". Do you believe in the Trinity? I hope so. Nowhere in Scripture do we see a New Testament canon of Scripture, yet you believe all of the New Testament books are infallible, correct? You don't believe any infallible books are missing, right? Therefore, your point makes no sense.
                  Last edited by Fisherofmen; September 22nd, 2019, 11:38 AM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by CatholicCrusader View Post
                    Since Mary is Jesus’ mother, it must be concluded that she is also the Mother of God: If Mary is the mother of Jesus, and if Jesus is God, then Mary is the Mother of God. There is no way out of this logical syllogism.
                    At the time when the Lord Jesus was in Mary's womb He was made in the likeness of man:

                    "Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross"
                    (Phil.1:6-8).

                    Since God has no end or beginning it is ridiculous to argue that God was born of a woman. The Lord Jesus was previously in the form of God until he was found in the fashion of man. Mary was the mother of the Man Jesus Christ.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Jerry Shugart View Post
                      At the time when the Lord Jesus was in Mary's womb He was made in the likeness of man:

                      "Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross"
                      (Phil.1:6-8).

                      Since God has no end or beginning it is ridiculous to argue that God was born of a woman. The Lord Jesus was previously in the form of God until he was found in the fashion of man. Mary was the mother of the Man Jesus Christ.
                      Yes, right. Mary is not God's mother, but is the birth mother of the incarnate, Jesus.

                      She does, nevertheless hold a special place with God.
                      So, what?

                      believe it!

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