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  • #16
    Originally posted by Jerry Shugart View Post
    Paul was born of the Spirit (born of God) on the Damascus road when he believed that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God:

    "Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God..For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith. Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?" (1 Jn.5:1,4-5).

    And then after that he was baptized with water.

    Ananias told him, "why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord" (Acts 22:16).

    Do you deny that Ananias was referring to water baptism?
    Hi and are we saved by WATER TODAY ?

    Was Paul saved by WATER / HUDOR ??

    Was nPaul sent NOT TO BAPTIZE , 1 Cor 1:17 ?

    Who than was the FIRST person saved by Grace ??

    Who was the first person BORN OUT OF DUE TIME , which means Paul was the first person split from Israel ??

    Who was the DISPENSATION OF GRACE GIVEN TO first and when , Gal 1:12 and 1 Tim 1:16 ??

    We are to follow Paul in BEING SAVED IS A PATTERN of the ones COMING to believe on Him unto everlasting life , YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING , RIGHT ??

    Have you ever notice the difference between Acts 9:18 and having stood up he was BAPTIZED , was there a baptistery near where Paul stood up !!

    Was Ananias a BAPTISMA / BAPTIZER , like John and the 12 apostles ? NO !!

    Was Ananias referring to WATER you THINK he was and IF he was , that is what ANANIAS ONLY KNEW as he was a Law keeper !! But was Ananias , not seeing the change as to Acts 1:5 and Acts 2:38 as that baptism that Peter was PERFORMING , " WILL RECEIVE " is in the Greek FUTURE TENSE !! WHY ?????????

    dan p

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Jerry Shugart View Post
      Ananias told Saul (Paul)"why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord" (Acts 22:16).

      What was the purpose of this baptism?

      Was it not for the remission of sins?


      Hi Jerry and have noticed that you have changed your position as to when the B O C BEGAN ? and have gone from and ACTS 7 and then to an Acts 13 position , so where are you now ?

      dan p

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      • #18
        Originally posted by DAN P View Post
        Hi Jerry and have noticed that you have changed your position as to when the B O C BEGAN ? and have gone from and ACTS 7 and then to an Acts 13 position , so where are you now ?
        The BOC began at Acts 7 and the dispensation of grace began at Acts 13.

        Why do you think that Paul was baptized with water?

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        • #19
          Originally posted by DAN P View Post
          Hi and are we saved by WATER TODAY ?

          Was Paul saved by WATER / HUDOR ??

          Was nPaul sent NOT TO BAPTIZE , 1 Cor 1:17 ?

          Who than was the FIRST person saved by Grace ??

          Who was the first person BORN OUT OF DUE TIME , which means Paul was the first person split from Israel ??

          Who was the DISPENSATION OF GRACE GIVEN TO first and when , Gal 1:12 and 1 Tim 1:16 ??

          We are to follow Paul in BEING SAVED IS A PATTERN of the ones COMING to believe on Him unto everlasting life , YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING , RIGHT ??

          Have you ever notice the difference between Acts 9:18 and having stood up he was BAPTIZED , was there a baptistery near where Paul stood up !!

          Was Ananias a BAPTISMA / BAPTIZER , like John and the 12 apostles ? NO !!

          Was Ananias referring to WATER you THINK he was and IF he was , that is what ANANIAS ONLY KNEW as he was a Law keeper !! But was Ananias , not seeing the change as to Acts 1:5 and Acts 2:38 as that baptism that Peter was PERFORMING , " WILL RECEIVE " is in the Greek FUTURE TENSE !! WHY ?????????

          dan p


          Hi Jerry and you NEVER AMSWERED any of the questions posed to you , WHY NOT ??

          Just start with anyone of them and let the DEBATE BEGIN ??

          dan p

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          • #20
            Originally posted by DAN P View Post
            Hi Jerry and you NEVER AMSWERED any of the questions posed to you , WHY NOT ??

            Just start with anyone of them and let the DEBATE BEGIN ??

            dan p
            You are trying to change the subject, dan p.

            Why won't you answer the question that is the subject of this thread?:

            "Why was Paul baptized with Water?"

            Originally posted by DAN P View Post
            Was Ananias referring to WATER you THINK he was and IF he was , that is what ANANIAS ONLY KNEW as he was a Law keeper !!
            Of course Ananias was referring to water baptism. Ananias told Saul (Paul)"why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord" (Acts 22:16).

            What other baptism could Ananias be referring to there?

            Besides that, why did Paul baptize some believers?

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Jerry Shugart View Post
              You are trying to change the subject, dan p.

              Why won't you answer the question that is the subject of this thread?:

              "Why was Paul baptized with Water?"



              Of course Ananias was referring to water baptism. Ananias told Saul (Paul)"why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord" (Acts 22:16).

              What other baptism could Ananias be referring to there?

              Besides that, why did Paul baptize some believers?

              Hi Jerry ans have answered what you asked and post #19 , you did NOT !!

              Read Acts 18:7-8 and tell me what that verses MEANS , IF you can ?? It is Crispus of 1 Cor 1:14 !!

              dan p

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              • #22
                Dan, if you don't want to tell us why Paul was baptized with water and why he baptized some believers with water then just say so. If you don't know why then just say that you don't.

                I say that on the Damascus road Paul realized that the Lord Jesus is both the Christ and the Son of God and he was born of God and saved when he believed that (1 Jn.5:1-5). So his baptism with water had nothing to do with salvation.

                The same can be said about Cornelius. He received the gift bestowed by the Holy Spirit (the ability to speak in tongues) and was saved before he was baptized with water (Acts 10:45-48).

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Jerry Shugart View Post
                  Dan, if you don't want to tell us why Paul was baptized with water and why he baptized some believers with water then just say so. If you don't know why then just say that you don't.

                  I say that on the Damascus road Paul realized that the Lord Jesus is both the Christ and the Son of God and he was born of God and saved when he believed that (1 Jn.5:1-5). So his baptism with water had nothing to do with salvation.

                  The same can be said about Cornelius. He received the gift bestowed by the Holy Spirit (the ability to speak in tongues) and was saved before he was baptized with water (Acts 10:45-48).

                  Hi Jerry and in Acts 9:17 Has sent me so that you might RECOVER SIGHT , amd MIGHT BE FULL OF HOLY SPIRIT POWER !!

                  In verse 18 and having stood up Paul was BAPTIZED with Holy SPIRIT POWER just as verse 17 said , why do you not understand the MEMO !!

                  Ananias laid his LAID his hands on Paul and was BAPTIZED WITH HOLY SPIRIT POWER !!

                  Not water baptized with water , but BAPTIZED with HOLY SPIRIT POWER as the Greek article is not used , the ARTICLE being the Greek word " THE " do you understand what the Greek article ( THE ) means ??

                  God have mercy !!

                  dan o

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by DAN P View Post
                    Ananias laid his LAID his hands on Paul and was BAPTIZED WITH HOLY SPIRIT POWER !!

                    Then why does Ananias speak of a "washing" when he told Saul (Paul)"why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord"
                    (Acts 22:16).

                    Besides that, are you going to deny that Paul baptized some believers with water?

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Jerry Shugart View Post
                      Ananias told Saul (Paul)"why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord" (Acts 22:16).

                      What was the purpose of this baptism?
                      the purpose of Paul's baptism was they were doing what they had always done.
                      Was it not for the remission of sins?
                      No, not for the remission of sin

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Jerry Shugart View Post

                        Then why does Ananias speak of a "washing" when he told Saul (Paul)"why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord"
                        (Acts 22:16).

                        Besides that, are you going to deny that Paul baptized some believers with water?

                        Hi Jerry and what does the Greek word WASH /APOLOUO MEAN !!

                        In Eph 5:26 the Greek word is WASHING / LOUTRON mean ??

                        In Titus 3:5 is also WASHING / LOUTRON and better look at the context !!

                        dan p

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by way 2 go View Post
                          the purpose of Paul's baptism was they were doing what they had always done.

                          No, not for the remission of sin
                          They were doing the same baptism which the John the Baptist had already done:
                          "And he came into all the country about Jordan, preaching the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins" (Lk.3:3).

                          Are you actually arguing that the baptism of repentance was NOT for the remission of sins?

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by DAN P View Post
                            Hi Jerry and what does the Greek word WASH /APOLOUO MEAN !!
                            So you saying that when Ananias said the following to Paul he was speaking of Paul being baptized with Holy Spirit power?:

                            "why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord" (Acts 22:16).

                            Is that the same kind of baptism that Paul spoke of here?:

                            "I thank God that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius"
                            (1 Cor.1:14).

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Jerry Shugart View Post
                              They were doing the same baptism which the John the Baptist had already done:
                              "And he came into all the country about Jordan, preaching the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins" (Lk.3:3).

                              Are you actually arguing that the baptism of repentance was NOT for the remission of sins?

                              the purpose of Paul's baptism was they were doing what they had always done.

                              No, NOT for the remission of sin.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by way 2 go View Post
                                the purpose of Paul's baptism was they were doing what they had always done.
                                When you speak of "doing what they had always done" in regard to Paul's baptism exactly what had they always done?

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