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  • ECT: PneumaPsucheSoma and AMR Discuss Trinitarianism

    A thread for PPS and myself to drive a few things to ground related to some particular sacred theology proper topics in hopes of edification and glorifying God.

    Background...

    An Olive Branch (AMR):
    http://www.theologyonline.com/forums...85#post4222285

    A Welcomed Response (PPS):
    http://www.theologyonline.com/forums...34#post4224234


    Let's begin, PPS.

    As I understand your posts on the topic, it seems to me your basic thesis statement is as follows:

    1. God is a singular transcendent hypostasis underlying an ousia.

    2. God's literal Logos and Pneuma are the two-fold, singular, external, economic procession of His hypostasis into creation when / as He spoke to create.

    3. Each (Logos and Pneuma) are qualitatively, rather than quantitatively distinct.

    Rather than start too much beforehand, I need to know if I have accurately captured your basic starting premise. Have I?

    AMR
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  • #2
    how can i subscribe to this thread, or have it pop up for me, to stay current ?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by patrick jane View Post
      how can i subscribe to this thread, or have it pop up for me, to stay current ?
      Don't ask me, as the thread lost me at:

      "1. God is a singular transcendent hypostasis underlying an ousia."

      Forest John W
      Saint John W

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      • #4
        Originally posted by patrick jane View Post
        how can i subscribe to this thread, or have it pop up for me, to stay current ?
        See "Messaging & Notification" and option "Default Thread Subscription Mode" here:

        http://www.theologyonline.com/forums...do=editoptions

        AMR
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        • #5
          Originally posted by john w View Post
          Don't ask me, as the thread lost me at:

          "1. God is a singular transcendent hypostasis underlying an ousia."

          Forest John W
          Yes, there will be some historical theological $50 words being deployed, but I have a strategy that I hope will make their digestion relatively easy.

          AMR
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          • #6
            Originally posted by john w View Post
            Don't ask me, as the thread lost me at:

            "1. God is a singular transcendent hypostasis underlying an ousia."

            Forest John W

            I know, i already had to write down pneuma (which makes me think of "air tools"), hypostasis, ousia - to look up. i know hypostasis, but ousia ? i see some free learnin' on the horizon, but we know it ends up with Paul -

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            • #7
              The Hypostatic pneuma only belongs to the transcendent union of the Logos

              into and inside of the Father and expelled and sent down to inbreed Mary.

              This is the God-quest that was prophesied long ago by the prophets chosen by God.

              Isaiah 53:2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant,

              and as a root out of a dry ground:

              he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him,

              Psalms 80:17 Let thy hand be upon the man of thy right hand,

              upon the son of man whom thou madest strong for thyself.

              Ezekiel 3:4 And he said unto me, Son of man, go, get thee unto the house of Israel,

              and speak with my words unto them.

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              • #8
                While I would like to request others refrain from posting, past experience tells me such a request is often routinely ignored. Accordingly, please do not take it personally if I (or PPS) ignore your posts as the discussion progresses.

                I will post a running lexicon of the theological terms being used, too, so no one reading the thread will be left wondering about this or that term. Once we have them sorted out, the terms will appear in a [spoiler] in my posts, which is a button that the reader may click to see how the terms are being defined, used, etc.

                For example:
                Spoiler

                Words defined listed here. See how easy that will be?


                Stay tuned!

                AMR
                Last edited by Ask Mr. Religion; February 16th, 2015, 11:26 PM.
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                • #9
                  Pneuma Psuche Soma is he still around ? ? ?

                  I have studied the Bible for over 45 years and can back up my conclusions with verses.

                  If PPS doesn't respond , I would like to discuss it with you.

                  Let me know
                  Last edited by OCTOBER23; February 17th, 2015, 05:04 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Ask Mr. Religion View Post
                    While I would like to request others refrain from posting, past experience tells me such a request is often routinely ignored.
                    You could ask Knight to set up a one-on-one thread where only PneumaPsucheSoma and AMR are allowed to post.

                    This has worked for a number of discussions in the past.
                    Learn to read what is written.

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                    The people who are supposed to be experts and who claim to understand the science are precisely the people who are blind to the evidence.
                    ~ Dr Freeman Dyson

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by genuineoriginal View Post
                      You could ask Knight to set up a one-on-one thread where only PneumaPsucheSoma and AMR are allowed to post.

                      This has worked for a number of discussions in the past.

                      i'm sure AMR is aware of that option. maybe me and other members would like to observe and learn a couple 3 thangs -

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                      • #12
                        I have my"gazinta's," and...........






                        ...ready...

                        Where are dem hypostasis's, ousia's??? When is the picture show gonna begin?

                        Forest John W
                        Saint John W

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Ask Mr. Religion View Post
                          I have a strategy that I hope will make their digestion relatively easy.

                          AMR
                          A swig of Knob Creek?
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                          Titus 1

                          For there are many insubordinate, both idle talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision, whose mouths must be stopped

                          Ephesians 5

                          11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them. 12 For it is shameful even to speak of those things which are done by them in secret

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                          • #14
                            I'm here, but have been very busy yesterday and today. I'll begin thoroughly and consistently responding late tonight or sometime tomorrow. I'm iPhone-bound and mobile.
                            Ecclesia reformata et semper reformanda secundum verbum Dei
                            “The Church reformed and always reforming, according to the Word of God.”

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                            • #15
                              Perhaps you gentlemen should consider a private conversation, rather than casting any pearls amongst these swine, and thus opening yourselves to suffering insults worse than what have already been put forth, prior to any discussion at all.

                              Either that, or ask for a 1 on 1 from Knight, that will prevent inane and ignorant commentary from the peanut gallery.
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