ROMANS 3:28 JUSTIFIED BY FAITH

DougE

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Romans 3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

The law can save no one. We are justified by faith in Christ Jesus, by believing the gospel of Grace.

3:29 Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also:

3:30 Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.

Jew and Gentile are justified by faith. Without the law. Without the covenants of Israel. Without good works. Without water baptism. Without walking down an aisle. Without confessing. We are justified by faith alone. It has always been by grace, by faith, that one can be justified. It has always been by the justification found in Christ that God could be just in forgiving sin; this was only made known by the revelations given to Paul.

3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

The law is not made void by faith. The law is not made void because Gentiles, not given the law, are saved by faith.

Romans 4:1 What shall we say then that Abraham our father, as pertaining to the flesh, hath found?

4:2 For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God.

4:3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.

Abraham was justified unto eternal life by believing God. Abraham was justified by works when he obeyed God and was willing to offer up Isaac.

There is more than one meaning to justification; look at Psalm 51:4 where God is declared to be righteous in his judgment. There is justification unto eternal life as when Abraham by faith, believed God (Genesis 15:6). There is justification in being righteous as when Abraham was justified by works (Genesis 22:2 James 2:21).

It should be noted that Abraham was justified by faith in Genesis 15:6, but after Genesis 15:6 covenant was made with Abraham. Covenant was made in Genesis 15:18 wherein God promised the land to his seed. God made covenant in Genesis 17:2 in which God promised to multiply Abraham exceedingly. God made covenant in Genesis 17:4 in which God promised to make Abraham father of many nations. God made in Genesis 17:10 the covenant of circumcision.

In Genesis 17:1 God told Abraham to be perfect (whole, without blemish) before him. In Genesis 17:2 God said he would make the promised covenant if Abraham was perfect before him. Abraham had to keep the covenant (Genesis 17:9). The book of James says faith was made perfect by works (James 2:22), so it can be seen that Abraham was justified by works under the covenants made by God and his faith made perfect.

4:4 Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.

If we could produce good works God would be obligated by debt to repay us; this would not be grace. Grace is given not out of debt, but love.

4:5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

God justifies the ungodly. We do not have to be righteous to be saved. We do not have to turn from sin and clean up to be saved. We have to believe on Jesus Christ who paid the penalty for our sin and justifies us freely by faith in his blood (Romans 3:24-25). Out of love and thankfulness we can, and should live in newness of life unto him (Romans 6:4
 

Jerry Shugart

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Jew and Gentile are justified by faith. Without the law. Without the covenants of Israel. Without good works. Without water baptism. Without walking down an aisle. Without confessing. We are justified by faith alone. It has always been by grace, by faith, that one can be justified. It has always been by the justification found in Christ that God could be just in forgiving sin; this was only made known by the revelations given to Paul.

You got it right. The Jewish believers who lived under the law were justified by faith just like the Gentile believers. Both groups were also justified on the basis of "grace," as witnessed by the following words of the Apostle Peter:

"God, who knows the heart, showed that he accepted them by giving the Holy Spirit to them, just as he did to us. He did not discriminate between us and them, for he purified their hearts by faith. Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of Gentiles a yoke that neither we nor our ancestors have been able to bear? No! We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are" (Acts 15:8-11).​

If it is of grace then it cannot be of works because grace and works are mutually exclusive.
 

God's Truth

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No one is saved by the works of the law anymore, which are these:

The Burnt Offering; The Grain Offering; The Fellowship Offering; The Sin Offering; The Guilt Offering; Dietary Laws; Purification After Childbirth; Cleansing From Infectious Skin Diseases; Cleansing From Mildew; Discharges Causing Uncleanness; The Day of Atonement; Rules for Priests; The Sabbath; Firstfruits; The Passover and Unleavened Bread; Feast of Weeks; Feast of Trumpets; Feast of Tabernacles; Oil and Bread Set Before The LORD; the Sabbath Year; The Year of Jubilee; Circumcision.

Those are the purification works the Jews used to have to do to clean themselves.
Now only faith that Jesus' blood cleans us is what cleans us.

That doesn't mean we don't have to do anything but have faith; we still have to come to Jesus as a humble child ready to do whatever he says, and to repent of our sins. We have to believe that Jesus cleans us of the sins we actually repent of doing.
 

DougE

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No one is saved by the works of the law anymore, which are these:

The Burnt Offering; The Grain Offering; The Fellowship Offering; The Sin Offering; The Guilt Offering; Dietary Laws; Purification After Childbirth; Cleansing From Infectious Skin Diseases; Cleansing From Mildew; Discharges Causing Uncleanness; The Day of Atonement; Rules for Priests; The Sabbath; Firstfruits; The Passover and Unleavened Bread; Feast of Weeks; Feast of Trumpets; Feast of Tabernacles; Oil and Bread Set Before The LORD; the Sabbath Year; The Year of Jubilee; Circumcision.

Those are the purification works the Jews used to have to do to clean themselves.
Now only faith that Jesus' blood cleans us is what cleans us.

That doesn't mean we don't have to do anything but have faith; we still have to come to Jesus as a humble child ready to do whatever he says, and to repent of our sins. We have to believe that Jesus cleans us of the sins we actually repent of doing.

We are not forgiven of only the sins we repent of but rather the forgiveness of sins Ephesians 1:7 Colossians 1:14
 

God's Truth

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We are not forgiven of only the sins we repent of but rather the forgiveness of sins Ephesians 1:7 Colossians 1:14

We have to repent of our sins, all of them. That is how we have forgiveness of sins. We have to come to Jesus as a humble child, which means we have to be ready to do everything we are told to do. If someone does not repent of all their sins then they have sins they still want to do. How does that make sense to you to not repent of all your sins?
 

DougE

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We have to repent of our sins, all of them. That is how we have forgiveness of sins. We have to come to Jesus as a humble child, which means we have to be ready to do everything we are told to do. If someone does not repent of all their sins then they have sins they still want to do. How does that make sense to you to not repent of all your sins?

Yes we are to repent (Acts 26:20) but not for forgiveness....we have forgiveness...Colossians 1:14 and Ephesians 1:7 says HAVE.
 

God's Truth

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Yes we are to repent (Acts 26:20) but not for forgiveness....we have forgiveness...Colossians 1:14 and Ephesians 1:7 says HAVE.

We have to repent for the forgiveness of sins.

Those scriptures are about those who have been forgiven and saved that is why it says "HAVE".


Luke 24:47 and repentance for the forgiveness of sins will be preached in his name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
 

DougE

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We have to repent for the forgiveness of sins.

Those scriptures are about those who have been forgiven and saved that is why it says "HAVE".


Luke 24:47 and repentance for the forgiveness of sins will be preached in his name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

Please elaborate on this:
"Those scriptures are about those who have been forgiven and saved that is why it says "HAVE"."
Who are you speaking of?

Luke 24:47 is Jesus commanding the eleven disciples to preach the name of Jesus to the Gentile nations to prepare them for the Davidic kingdom on earth.
 

God's Truth

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Please elaborate on this:
"Those scriptures are about those who have been forgiven and saved that is why it says "HAVE"."
Who are you speaking of?

Luke 24:47 is Jesus commanding the eleven disciples to preach the name of Jesus to the Gentile nations to prepare them for the Davidic kingdom on earth.

No, Jesus is commanding the disciple to preach to all so they can get saved.

The kingdom of heaven is within.
When we get saved we receive the Holy Spirit and are seated with God in heaven.

When we are saved we enter the realm of the Spirit, the kingdom of God.
 

God's Truth

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Romans 8:9-11
You, however, are not in the realm of the flesh but are in the realm of the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God lives in you.

Luke 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
 

DougE

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No, Jesus is commanding the disciple to preach to all so they can get saved.

The kingdom of heaven is within.
When we get saved we receive the Holy Spirit and are seated with God in heaven.

When we are saved we enter the realm of the Spirit, the kingdom of God.

The Jews who were saved before Paul and the body of Christ, did not go to heaven. Only the body of Christ goes to heaven (Ephesians 1:3).

Israel was promised a kingdom on earth (Revelation 5:10 Deuteronomy 4:40 Genesis 13:15 Psalm 37:22).

In Luke 24:47 it is the gospel of the kingdom on earth being preached.
 

God's Truth

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The Jews who were saved before Paul and the body of Christ, did not go to heaven.

They went to where Abraham was.


But don't say "before Paul".

Paul is not the only one who preached the one and only gospel that saves.



Only the body of Christ goes to heaven (Ephesians 1:3).


All saved are in the body of Christ.

Israel was promised a kingdom on earth (Revelation 5:10 Deuteronomy 4:40 Genesis 13:15 Psalm 37:22).
Israel is only those who have faith in Jesus and we will live with Jesus on the new earth.

God doesn't care about blood relations to Abraham anymore.

Strange how you don't get that.

It was important up until the time Jesus was born because he is the promised blood descendant of Abraham. It only matters now who is related to Jesus' blood by faith.

In Luke 24:47 it is the gospel of the kingdom on earth being preached.

That scripture is about preaching the one and only gospel that saves for all.
 
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