JOHN 20:23 IS NOT FOR THE CHURCH

[Right Divider]

Hebrews 13:8 King James Version (KJV)
8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

Classic OUT OF CONTEXT quotes will get you nowhere.

Some people use that verse to "prove" that Jesus Christ had a human body before He was born into the world.

That verse does NOT, in any way, shape or form, say that Christ cannot reveal NEW information OR have TWO unique ministries.

That verse is confirming the deity of Christ and His unchanging character.

The word SAME there has a CONTEXT. It does NOT means "the same in every possible way".

 

[Bright Raven]

Classic OUT OF CONTEXT quotes will get you nowhere.

Some people use that verse to "prove" that Jesus Christ had a human body before He was born into the world.

That verse does NOT, in any way, shape or form, say that Christ cannot reveal NEW information OR have TWO unique ministries.

That verse is confirming the deity of Christ and His unchanging character.

The word SAME there has a CONTEXT. It does NOT means "the same in every possible way".

So you're saying that Jesus changes.

 

[Bright Raven]

You're the one who gave the verse that says Jesus is the same yesterday, today, and forever.

So why did you quote that verse?

Scripture says, He doesn't change

 

[Right Divider]

So you're saying that Jesus changes.

NOPE!

I'm saying that Jesus can give Paul a different ministry if He so chooses. And the Bible clearly demonstrates that that is exactly what He did.

So quit with the false allegations and out of context scripture quotes.

P.S. Did Jesus have a human body BEFORE He was conceived in Mary's womb?

 

[Right Divider]

Scripture says, He doesn't change

In WHAT WAY does it say that Jesus is the same?

 

[Bright Raven]

NOPE!

I'm saying that Jesus can give Paul a different ministry if He so chooses. And the Bible clearly demonstrates that that is exactly what He did.

So quit with the false allegations and out of context scripture quotes.

P.S. Did Jesus have a human body BEFORE He was conceived in Mary's womb?

I never said that He didn't give different ministries

 

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Luk 22:35-36 KJV And he said unto them, When I sent you without purse, and scrip, and shoes, lacked ye any thing? And they said, Nothing. (36) Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.​

Oh no... Jesus changed.

 

[Right Divider]

I never said that He didn't give different ministries

Then what was your point?

 

[JudgeRightly]

Scripture says, He doesn't change

In what way or ways does Jesus not change?

 

[Bright Raven]

In what way or ways does Jesus not change?

He doesn't change period.

 

[JudgeRightly]

He doesn't change period.

So Jesus did not become a man?

 

[Bright Raven]

So Jesus did not become a man?

Was He God as a man?

 

[JudgeRightly]

Was He God as a man?

Was Jesus God the Son, BR? Or was He some 4th person of the Trinity?

 

[Bright Raven]

Was Jesus God the Son, BR? Or was He some 4th person of the Trinity?

Are you serious???

 

[JudgeRightly]

Are you serious???

Answer the question, BR.

Did Jesus, God the Son, become a man?

 

[Bright Raven]

Answer the question, BR.

Did Jesus, God the Son, become a man?

I cannot believe you're asking these silly questions. But to appease your lack of knowledge yes God the Son became a man. Did He become any less God when He became man?

 

[JudgeRightly]

I cannot believe you're asking these silly questions. But to appease your lack of knowledge yes God the Son became a man. Did He become any less God when He became man?

So then, would you retract this:

He doesn't change period.

Because, to the extent that God the Son became a man, He changed?

 

[Bright Raven]

So then, would you retract this:Because, to the extent that God the Son became a man, He changed?

Nope! Because I believe it.

 

[JudgeRightly]

Nope! Because I believe it.

You believe two things that contradict.

Either "God does not change, period," or God changed, at least to the extent that God the Son became a man."

So which is more important to you, BR? God's absolute immutability? Or the Incarnation?

 

[Bright Raven]

You believe two things that contradict.

Either "God does not change, period," or God changed, at least to the extent that God the Son became a man."

So which is more important to you, BR? God's absolute immutability? Or the Incarnation?

God is absolutely immutable. Why would you say different? Was Jesus God as a man? God is God. You don't believe in His absolute immutability or His total omniscience. What else don't you believe?