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  • Originally posted by Nanja View Post
    Precisely ! As God does everything, or what all is being done, according to His own Divine Will Dan. 4:35, or what He has determined to do in His own Mind Job 23:13-14; it is obvious then that Adam's disobedience to God's command to not eat of the tree Gen. 2:17, was exactly as God so Desired. Yes, God meant Adam's evil disobedience for good according to His Eternal Purpose in Christ Eph. 3:11.
    Amen Sister!
    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
    preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
    called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

    Charles Spurgeon !

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      "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
      preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
      called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
      a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

      Charles Spurgeon !

      Comment


      • Originally posted by beloved57 View Post
        The Fall was necessary in order to bring the chosen ones to faith, trust in Christ, which was the working of God of all things after the counsel of His own will Eph 1:11-13

        11 In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:

        12 That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ[for Salvation].

        13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

        Exactly Brother, if not for the Fall, God's Chosen Ones Eph. 1:4 would never experience the Glory of His Grace Eph. 1:6 in Salvation from sin, which was already Given them before the World began.

        2 Tim. 1:9

        Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,

        And so God brings that Spiritual Life to Light for everyone of them for whom Christ Died and thus Saved, and gives them Hearing ears Prov. 20:12 to Hear the Gospel of their Salvation, which is Spiritual 1 Cor. 2:13, after they are Born Again John 3:3, or Born from above, as a result of the Preaching of the Gospel, The Word of Truth Rom. 10:15.

        2 Tim. 1:10

        But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel:

        James 1:18

        Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures.


        So their Trusting and Believing in Christ is not something they do in the flesh Rom. 8:8, but is the result of them being Born of God and having been sealed with the Spirit of Promise !

        Titus 3:5

        Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
        My soul thirsts for God, the God Who Lives Forever:
        when shall I be brought in to see His Face? -Psalm 42:2

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        • Originally posted by Nanja View Post
          Exactly Brother, if not for the Fall, God's Chosen Ones Eph. 1:4 would never experience the Glory of His Grace Eph. 1:6 in Salvation from sin, which was already Given them before the World began.

          2 Tim. 1:9

          Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,

          And so God brings that Spiritual Life to Light for everyone of them for whom Christ Died and thus Saved, and gives them Hearing ears Prov. 20:12 to Hear the Gospel of their Salvation, which is Spiritual 1 Cor. 2:13, after they are Born Again John 3:3, or Born from above, as a result of the Preaching of the Gospel, The Word of Truth Rom. 10:15.

          2 Tim. 1:10

          But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel:

          James 1:18

          Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures.


          So their Trusting and Believing in Christ is not something they do in the flesh Rom. 8:8, but is the result of them being Born of God and having been sealed with the Spirit of Promise !

          Titus 3:5

          Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
          Amen Sister !
          "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
          preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
          called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
          a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

          Charles Spurgeon !

          Comment

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