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    GRACE (FALL FROM))( DISQUALIFIED) (FALL SHORT)
    Heb 6:10
    10 For God is not unjust to forget your work and labor of love which you have shown toward His name, in that you have ministered to the saints, and do minister.
    Luke 1:50
    50 And His mercy is on those who fear Him from generation to generation.
    2 Cor 5:5
    5 Now He who has prepared us for this very thing is God, who also has given us the Spirit as a guarantee.
    Rom 8:27
    27 Now He who searches the hearts knows what the mind of the spirit is, because He makes intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
    2 Cor 10:4-5
    4 For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds,
    5 casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ,
    1 Cor 11:31
    31 For if we would judge ourselves, we would not be judged.
    John 5:22-23
    22 "For the Father judges no one, but has committed all judgment to the Son,
    23 "that all should honor the Son just as they honor the Father. He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him.
    II Jn 1:9-11
    9 Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son.
    10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him into your house nor greet him;
    11 for he who greets him shares in his evil deeds.
    Rev 22:18-19
    18 For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book;
    19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
    Acts 4:12
    12 "Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved."
    Eph 4:4-6
    4 There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called in one hope of your calling;
    5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism;
    6 one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
    Eph 4:11-14
    11 And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers,
    12 for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ,
    13 till we all come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ;
    14 that we should no longer be children, tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, in the cunning craftiness of deceitful plotting,
    Col 2:8
    8 Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ.
    Heb 10:28-29
    28 Anyone who has rejected Moses' law dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses.
    29 Of how much worse punishment, do you suppose, will he be thought worthy who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, counted the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified a common thing, and insulted the Spirit of grace?
    Heb 8:13
    13 In that He says, "A new covenant," He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.
    John 14:6
    6 Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
    Gal 5:1-4
    1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free, and do not be entangled again with a yoke of bondage.
    2 Indeed I, Paul, say to you that if you become circumcised, Christ will profit you nothing.
    3 And I testify again to every man who becomes circumcised that he is a debtor to keep the whole law.
    4 You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace.
    Heb 2:1
    1 Therefore we must give the more earnest heed to the things we have heard, lest we drift away.
    2 Cor 13:5
    5 Examine yourselves as to whether you are in the faith. Test yourselves. Do you not know yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you?-- unless indeed you are disqualified.
    Rom 3:23
    23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
    Heb 12:15
    15 looking diligently lest anyone fall short of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up cause trouble, and by this many become defiled;
    Heb 6:10
    10 For God is not unjust to forget your work and labor of love which you have shown toward His name, in that you have ministered to the saints, and do minister.
    Rev 3:15-16
    15 "I know your works, that you are neither cold nor hot. I could wish you were cold or hot.
    16 "So then, because you are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will vomit you out of My mouth.
    (NKJ)
    xxThere are so many ways that one can be disqualified, and disciples dont know it. A disciple is a student or beginner in Christianity. Now because someone who has fallen from grace or fallen short or been disqualifed doesnt know it them selves. It is easy for them to lead a disciple down the wrong path. When God has turned a person over to a reprobate mind, the person doesnt have the spiritual knowledge to discern it, and they become the blind leading the blind. Also a hypocrite doesnt know he is a hypocrite. The only evidence of any of this is having less verses now than you had a year ago. Because a christians growth, is in their growing in the Spirit, or in the idea that their still teaching the same thing today that they taught a year ago, if their on the same message. Where is their growth? This is the way to check yourself.


    Rev 2:5
    5 "Remember therefore from where you have fallen; repent and do the first works, or else I will come to you quickly and remove your lampstand from its place-- unless you repent.
    (NKJ)

    Luke 13:2-5
    2 And Jesus answered and said to them, "Do you suppose that these Galileans were worse sinners than all other Galileans, because they suffered such things?
    3 "I tell you, no; but unless you repent you will all likewise perish.
    4 "Or those eighteen on whom the tower in Siloam fell and killed them, do you think that they were worse sinners than all other men who dwelt in Jerusalem?
    5 "I tell you, no; but unless you repent you will all likewise perish."
    (NKJ)


    Heb 10:38-39
    38 Now the just shall live by faith; but if anyone draws back, my soul has no pleasure in him."
    39 But we are not of those who draw back to perdition, but of those who believe to the saving of the soul.
    (NKJ)

    Jude 1:1-7

    1 Jude, a bondservant of Jesus Christ, and brother of James, To those who are called, sanctified by God the Father, and preserved in Jesus Christ:
    2 Mercy, peace, and love be multiplied to you.
    3 Beloved, while I was very diligent to write to you concerning our common salvation, I found it necessary to write to you exhorting you to contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all delivered to the saints.
    4 For certain men have crept in unnoticed, who long ago were marked out for this condemnation, ungodly men, who turn the grace of our God into lewdness and deny the only Lord God and our Lord Jesus Christ.
    5 But I want to remind you, though you once knew this, that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed those who did not believe.
    6 And the angels who did not keep their proper domain, but left their own abode, He has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day;
    7 as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them in a similar manner to these, having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
    (NKJ)


    Rom 11:19-22
    19 You will say then, "Branches were broken off that I might be grafted in."
    20 Well said. Because of unbelief they were broken off, and you stand by faith. Do not be haughty, but fear.
    21 For if God did not spare the natural branches, He may not spare you either.
    22 Therefore consider the goodness and severity of God: on those who fell, severity; but toward you, goodness, if you continue in His goodness. Otherwise you also will be cut off.
    (NKJ)


    Heb 2:1-3

    1 Therefore we must give the more earnest heed to the things we have heard, lest we drift away.
    2 For if the word spoken through angels proved steadfast, and every transgression and disobedience received a just reward,
    3 how shall we escape if we neglect so great a salvation, which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed to us by those who heard Him,
    (NKJ)

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    You can fall from grace, be disqualified, even fall short of salvation. When you get saved your name is written in the book of life. But read it your name can be taken out of the book of life.

    Rev 22:18-19
    18 For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book;
    19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
    (NKJ)

    Look if you just dabble in the Word or become lukewarm,

    Heb 6:4-6
    4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit,
    5 and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come,
    6 if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame.
    (NKJ)

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    • #3
      excellent

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      • #4
        thanks

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        • #5
          Have you fallen from grace? Have you been disqualified? Have you fallen short of salvation?

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          • #6
            This is very clear. Everything up until John the Baptist was the law. And if anyone tries to be justified by anything before Jesus they have fallen from grace.

            Luke 16:16
            16 "The law and the prophets were until John. Since that time the kingdom of God has been preached, and everyone is pressing into it.
            (NKJ)

            Matt 11:12-13
            12 "And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffers violence, and the violent take it by force.
            13 "For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.
            (NKJ)

            Gal 5:1-4
            1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free, and do not be entangled again with a yoke of bondage.
            2 Indeed I, Paul, say to you that if you become circumcised, Christ will profit you nothing.
            3 And I testify again to every man who becomes circumcised that he is a debtor to keep the whole law.
            4 You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace.
            (NKJ)

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            • #7
              Have you fallen from grace, or been disqualified, or fallen short of salvation???

              One cant fall from grace until after they are in grace. one cant be disqualified until after they have been qualified. One cant fall short until after they have started the race.

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              • #8
                No one has any hope of going to heaven without grace. Or without faith working through love. And love is not an emotion.

                [Gal 5:6
                6 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision avails anything, but faith working through love.

                [Eph 2:8
                8 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; [it is] the gift of God,

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                • #9
                  In the old testament anyone who wanted to be a Jew the men had to be circumcised. That was the testimony that they believed the old testament. Paul said anyone who is circumcised(join in the old testament beliefs) any of them they are a debtor to believe in all of them. And they have fallen from grace.

                  [Gal 5:1-4
                  1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free, and do not be entangled again with a yoke of bondage.
                  2 Indeed I, Paul, say to you that if you become circumcised, Christ will profit you nothing.
                  3 And I testify again to every man who becomes circumcised that he is a debtor to keep the whole law.
                  4 You have become estranged from Christ, you who [attempt to] be justified by law; you have fallen from grace.
                  [Jhn 10:1, 8
                  1 "Most assuredly, I say to you, he who does not enter the sheepfold by the door, but climbs up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber. ...
                  8 "All who [ever] came before Me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not hear them.

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                  • #10
                    Grace is the law of Christ.

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                    • #11
                      When you fall from grace you are put back under the old testament law.

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                      • #12
                        The law of Christ in Gods grace overrides the law of sin and death. But if you fall from grace you are put back under the law of sin and death.

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                        • #13
                          You can repent and start over.
                          [Heb 5:12-14
                          12 For though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need [someone] to teach you again the first principles of the oracles of God; and you have come to need milk and not solid food.
                          13 For everyone who partakes [only] of milk [is] unskilled in the word of righteousness, for he is a babe.
                          14 But solid food belongs to those who are of full age, [that is], those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

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                          • #14
                            I have seen some fall from grace in here. And they dont know it.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Squeaky View Post
                              I have seen some fall from grace in here. And they dont know it.
                              Falling from grace is not an unsealing of the Spirit. It is a yielding to sin.
                              He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose.

                              Jim Elliot

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