The Trinity

[God's Truth]

No, James was warning the 12 tribes of Israel scattered abroad about false doctrines like yours.



Sure they DO SOMETHING, they REJECT what Jesus Christ did; therefore, eternally lost as millions who follow their doctrine of doing something.



You, gt, on the other hand proclaims you, gt, are God's Truth. Imagine that.



Where is your OBEYING LIST that you're so proud of…. Oh, wait, you don't obey all of Jesus' sayings, you have confessed so yourself when asked. What do you think that makes you, gt?



Absolutely I am 'a' Corinthian or 'a' Galatian. You can take your pick. You, gt, on the other hand are a member of one the 12 tribes of Israel scattered abroad going through tribulation.



Well, you will have to take that up with the Risen Lord Himself, for the Risen Lord Himself told Paul face-to-face, first-hand account, what to tell you, however, you reject the Risen Lord's instructions to you as if He came to the lost sheep of the house of gt. What a shame.

James didn't preach that what Paul taught was wrong. How do you ever get that Paul would preach a divided gospel from the Lord? No such thing in heaven.

Would you like scriptures about what Jesus says about what is divided?

 

[God's Truth]

If you just used the brilliant mind God gave to you, you would think before you write certain things, gt.

God CANNOT FORCE you to LOVE Him and that's just for starters.

Where do you ever get that I said He does that?

The Son the second person of the Triunity of God (Father, Son, Holy Spirit) came.

Jesus is NOT God the Father with a physical body.



Your false doctrine is morphing, gt.

 

[popsthebuilder]

Isaiah 43: 1. But now thus saith the LORD that created thee, O Jacob, and he that formed thee, O Israel, Fear not: for I have redeemed thee, I have called thee by thy name; thou art mine. 2. When thou passest through the waters, I will be with thee; and through the rivers, they shall not overflow thee: when thou walkest through the fire, thou shalt not be burned; neither shall the flame kindle upon thee. 3. For I am the LORD thy God, the Holy One of Israel, thy Saviour: I gave Egypt for thy ransom, Ethiopia and Seba for thee. 4. Since thou wast precious in my sight, thou hast been honourable, and I have loved thee: therefore will I give men for thee, and people for thy life. 5. Fear not: for I am with thee: I will bring thy seed from the east, and gather thee from the west; 6. I will say to the north, Give up; and to the south, Keep not back: bring my sons from far, and my daughters from the ends of the earth; 7. Even every one that is called by my name: for I have created him for my glory, I have formed him; yea, I have made him. 9. Let all the nations be gathered together, and let the people be assembled: who among them can declare this, and shew us former things? let them bring forth their witnesses, that they may be justified: or let them hear, and say, It is truth. 10. Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. 11. I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour. 12. I have declared, and have saved, and I have shewed, when there was no strange god among you: therefore ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, that I am God. 13. Yea, before the day was I am he; and there is none that can deliver out of my hand: I will work, and who shall let it? 14. Thus saith the LORD, your redeemer, the Holy One of Israel; For your sake I have sent to Babylon, and have brought down all their nobles, and the Chaldeans, whose cry is in the ships. 15. I am the LORD, your Holy One, the creator of Israel, your King. 16. Thus saith the LORD, which maketh a way in the sea, and a path in the mighty waters; 17. Which bringeth forth the chariot and horse, the army and the power; they shall lie down together, they shall not rise: they are extinct, they are quenched as tow. 18. Remember ye not the former things, neither consider the things of old. 19. Behold, I will do a new thing; now it shall spring forth; shall ye not know it? I will even make a way in the wilderness, and rivers in the desert. 20. The beast of the field shall honour me, the dragons and the owls: because I give waters in the wilderness, and rivers in the desert, to give drink to my people, my chosen. 21. This people have I formed for myself; they shall shew forth my praise. 23. Thou hast not brought me the small cattle of thy burnt offerings; neither hast thou honoured me with thy sacrifices. I have not caused thee to serve with an offering, nor wearied thee with incense. 24. Thou hast bought me no sweet cane with money, neither hast thou filled me with the fat of thy sacrifices: but thou hast made me to serve with thy sins, thou hast wearied me with thine iniquities. 25. I, even I, am he that blotteth out thy transgressions for mine own sake, and will not remember thy sins. 26. Put me in remembrance: let us plead together: declare thou, that thou mayest be justified. 27. Thy first father hath sinned, and thy teachers have transgressed against me. 28. Therefore I have profaned the princes of the sanctuary, and have given Jacob to the curse, and Israel to reproaches.
saiah 43: 1. But now thus saith the LORD that created thee, O Jacob, and he that formed thee, O Israel, Fear not: for I have redeemed thee, I have called thee by thy name; thou art mine. 2. When thou passest through the waters, I will be with thee; and through the rivers, they shall not overflow thee: when thou walkest through the fire, thou shalt not be burned; neither shall the flame kindle upon thee. 3. For I am the LORD thy God, the Holy One of Israel, thy Saviour: I gave Egypt for thy ransom, Ethiopia and Seba for thee. 4. Since thou wast precious in my sight, thou hast been honourable, and I have loved thee: therefore will I give men for thee, and people for thy life. 5. Fear not: for I am with thee: I will bring thy seed from the east, and gather thee from the west; 6. I will say to the north, Give up; and to the south, Keep not back: bring my sons from far, and my daughters from the ends of the earth; 7. Even every one that is called by my name: for I have created him for my glory, I have formed him; yea, I have made him. 9. Let all the nations be gathered together, and let the people be assembled: who among them can declare this, and shew us former things? let them bring forth their witnesses, that they may be justified: or let them hear, and say, It is truth. 10. Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. 11. I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour. 12. I have declared, and have saved, and I have shewed, when there was no strange god among you: therefore ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, that I am God. 13. Yea, before the day was I am he; and there is none that can deliver out of my hand: I will work, and who shall let it? 14. Thus saith the LORD, your redeemer, the Holy One of Israel; For your sake I have sent to Babylon, and have brought down all their nobles, and the Chaldeans, whose cry is in the ships. 15. I am the LORD, your Holy One, the creator of Israel, your King. 16. Thus saith the LORD, which maketh a way in the sea, and a path in the mighty waters; 17. Which bringeth forth the chariot and horse, the army and the power; they shall lie down together, they shall not rise: they are extinct, they are quenched as tow. 18. Remember ye not the former things, neither consider the things of old. 19. Behold, I will do a new thing; now it shall spring forth; shall ye not know it? I will even make a way in the wilderness, and rivers in the desert. 20. The beast of the field shall honour me, the dragons and the owls: because I give waters in the wilderness, and rivers in the desert, to give drink to my people, my chosen. 21. This people have I formed for myself; they shall shew forth my praise. 23. Thou hast not brought me the small cattle of thy burnt offerings; neither hast thou honoured me with thy sacrifices. I have not caused thee to serve with an offering, nor wearied thee with incense. 24. Thou hast bought me no sweet cane with money, neither hast thou filled me with the fat of thy sacrifices: but thou hast made me to serve with thy sins, thou hast wearied me with thine iniquities. 25. I, even I, am he that blotteth out thy transgressions for mine own sake, and will not remember thy sins. 26. Put me in remembrance: let us plead together: declare thou, that thou mayest be justified. 27. Thy first father hath sinned, and thy teachers have transgressed against me. 28. Therefore I have profaned the princes of the sanctuary, and have given Jacob to the curse, and Israel to reproaches

Isaiah 45: 1. Thus saith the LORD to his anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have holden, to subdue nations before him; and I will loose the loins of kings, to open before him the two leaved gates; and the gates shall not be shut; 2. I will go before thee, and make the crooked places straight: I will break in pieces the gates of brass, and cut in sunder the bars of iron: 3. And I will give thee the treasures of darkness, and hidden riches of secret places, that thou mayest know that I, the LORD, which call thee by thy name, am the God of Israel. 4. For Jacob my servant's sake, and Israel mine elect, I have even called thee by thy name: I have surnamed thee, though thou hast not known me. 5. I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me: 6. That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is none else. 7. I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. 8. Drop down, ye heavens, from above, and let the skies pour down righteousness: let the earth open, and let them bring forth salvation, and let righteousness spring up together; I the LORD have created it. 9. Woe unto him that striveth with his Maker! Let the potsherd strive with the potsherds of the earth. Shall the clay say to him that fashioneth it, What makest thou? or thy work, He hath no hands? 10. Woe unto him that saith unto his father, What begettest thou? or to the woman, What hast thou brought forth? 11. Thus saith the LORD, the Holy One of Israel, and his Maker, Ask me of things to come concerning my sons, and concerning the work of my hands command ye me. 12. I have made the earth, and created man upon it: I, even my hands, have stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded. 13. I have raised him up in righteousness, and I will direct all his ways: he shall build my city, and he shall let go my captives, not for price nor reward, saith the LORD of hosts. 14. Thus saith the LORD, The labour of Egypt, and merchandise of Ethiopia and of the Sabeans, men of stature, shall come over unto thee, and they shall be thine: they shall come after thee; in chains they shall come over, and they shall fall down unto thee, they shall make supplication unto thee, saying, Surely God is in thee; and there is none else, there is no God. 15. Verily thou art a God that hidest thyself, O God of Israel, the Saviour. 16. They shall be ashamed, and also confounded, all of them: they shall go to confusion together that are makers of idols. 17. But Israel shall be saved in the LORD with an everlasting salvation: ye shall not be ashamed nor confounded world without end. 18. For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else. 19. I have not spoken in secret, in a dark place of the earth: I said not unto the seed of Jacob, Seek ye me in vain: I the LORD speak righteousness, I declare things that are right. 20. Assemble yourselves and come; draw near together, ye that are escaped of the nations: they have no knowledge that set up the wood of their graven image, and pray unto a god that cannot save. 21. Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me. 22. Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else. 23. I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear. 24. Surely, shall one say, in the LORD have I righteousness and strength: even to him shall men come; and all that are incensed against him shall be ashamed. 25. In the LORD shall all the seed of Israel be justified, and shall glory.



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[lifeisgood]

There is only one God and He is the Father and he came as a Son.

God the Father is not Jesus with a physical body.

You need to do a little more research before you try to be so crafty.

The KJV also says God is not a son!

Do you really want to use that scripture in a debate against me?

So God is not a SON?!

God The Father IS NOT Jesus with a physical body. You, gt, have convinced me, as I have previously told you already a few times, that you reject God's Truth.

Looks like your twisting of the scriptures became a snare for you.

Is this one of yours 'HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOray, I gt, won'.

According to you then, Jesus is not God and not the son of man.

Libel statement.

You are about to get rebuked by the scriptures again. Tell me, who is the King of kings? Jesus is the King of kings!!!

My Bible says Jesus Christ is the King of kings and the Lord of lords!!!!! And I believe God's Truth.

God the Father is that, and so is Jesus Christ the Son, because they are the EXACT SAME.

Revelation 17:14
They will wage war against the Lamb, but the Lamb will triumph over them because he is Lord of lords and King of kings—and with him will be his called, chosen and faithful followers.”

The scripture you provided DOES NOT say that God the Father and Jesus the Son are the same person. Neither NOTHING about God the Father being Jesus with a physical body. That is something you have invented so that you can have a false doctrine to peddle around, exactly as keypurr.

The Holy Spirit is God the Father.

It does not matter how many times you peddle your false doctrine — God the Father IS NOT Jesus with a physical body.

 

[lifeisgood]

All the time.

The Holy Spirit is NOT Jesus with a physical body.
God the Father is NOT Jesus with a physical body.

That is you, gt, peddling false doctrine and as I have already told you, you have convinced me that you do not believe God's Truth.

God the Father is Spirit. Jesus' Spirit is that Spirit.

Always taking God's Word out of its original, perfect, complete context inventing a false doctrine so that you can peddle it.

You plainly say in your testimony of when you were saved that you repented of your sins.

Yes.

But then you say you did not.

LIBEL statement. You have NO idea of WHO Jesus is and WHAT Jesus did in my stead.

You are entrapped to go against the obvious.

Another one of your, 'Hoooooooooooooooooray, I, gt, won'?

 

[lifeisgood]

James didn't preach that what Paul taught was wrong. How do you ever get that Paul would preach a divided gospel from the Lord? No such thing in heaven.

Would you like scriptures about what Jesus says about what is divided?

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[lifeisgood]

Where do you ever get that I said He does that?

Only gt say that that is what has been said. How sad.

BTW: God the Father IS NOT Jesus with a physical body.

 

[popsthebuilder]

God the Father is not Jesus with a physical body.



God The Father IS NOT Jesus with a physical body. You, gt, have convinced me, as I have previously told you already a few times, that you reject God's Truth.



Is this one of yours 'HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOray, I gt, won'.



Libel statement.



My Bible says Jesus Christ is the King of kings and the Lord of lords!!!!! And I believe God's Truth.



The scripture you provided DOES NOT say that God the Father and Jesus the Son are the same person. Neither NOTHING about God the Father being Jesus with a physical body. That is something you have invented so that you can have a false doctrine to peddle around, exactly as keypurr.



It does not matter how many times you peddle your false doctrine — God the Father IS NOT Jesus with a physical body.

Actually she says it's GOD almighty manifest within a physical body/ temple of GOD. And all of scripture attests to the same; that is that the Spirit dwells/ed in the Son of GOD.

scripture is lost on you as you do not understand it much at all it seems, as you have attested to, to some point, and which is also scriptural.



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[lifeisgood]

Actually she says it's GOD almighty manifest within a physical body/ temple of GOD. And all of scripture attests to the same; that is that the Spirit dwells/ed in the Son of GOD.

scripture is lost on you as you do not understand it much at all it seems, as you have attested to to some point and which is also scriptural.
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Priestess gt's light has blinded you, popsthebuilder, amazing for such an enlightened one such as yourself. You are the first member to her false church. She must be very proud of your defense. She is always enthralled when someone defends her false doctrine. It amazes her that someone agrees with her false doctrine. It even surprises her.

BTW, popsthebuilder, God the Father IS NOT Jesus with a physical body as the priestess gt peddles around. The Holy Spirit is NOT Jesus with a physical body either.

 

[JudgeRightly]

Priestess gt's light has blinded you, popsthebuilder, amazing for such an enlightened one such as yourself. You are the first member to her false church. She must be very proud of your defense. She is always enthralled when someone defends her false doctrine. It amazes her that someone agrees with her false doctrine. It even surprises her.

BTW, popsthebuilder, God the Father IS NOT Jesus with a physical body as the priestess gt peddles around. The Holy Spirit is NOT Jesus with a physical body either.

And neither is Jesus the Holy Spirit with a physical body.

 

[popsthebuilder]

Priestess gt's light has blinded you, popsthebuilder, amazing for such an enlightened one such as yourself. You are the first member to her false church. She must be very proud of your defense. She is always enthralled when someone defends her false doctrine. It amazes her that someone agrees with her false doctrine. It even surprises her.

BTW, popsthebuilder, God the Father IS NOT Jesus with a physical body as the priestess gt peddles around. The Holy Spirit is NOT Jesus with a physical body either.

I nor her say that, nor scripture.

Jesus was the vessel and physical temple that the Holy Spirit of GOD dwelled in fully.

Now say it's false doctrine so I can pin point your self deception for you oh blind friend.

I double dog dare you.

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[God's Truth]

God the Father is not Jesus with a physical body.



God The Father IS NOT Jesus with a physical body. You, gt, have convinced me, as I have previously told you already a few times, that you reject God's Truth.



Is this one of yours 'HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOray, I gt, won'.



Libel statement.



My Bible says Jesus Christ is the King of kings and the Lord of lords!!!!! And I believe God's Truth.



The scripture you provided DOES NOT say that God the Father and Jesus the Son are the same person. Neither NOTHING about God the Father being Jesus with a physical body. That is something you have invented so that you can have a false doctrine to peddle around, exactly as keypurr.



It does not matter how many times you peddle your false doctrine — God the Father IS NOT Jesus with a physical body.

Why is it so hard for you to understand? The Father has a name and Jesus has that exact same name. Jesus s not a Jr God. Jesus is God and when you see him, you can say, "I see the Father".

When you see Jesus one day, are you going to say I wonder when I am going to see the Father?

 

[God's Truth]

The Holy Spirit is NOT Jesus with a physical body.
God the Father is NOT Jesus with a physical body.

That is you, gt, peddling false doctrine and as I have already told you, you have convinced me that you do not believe God's Truth.



Always taking God's Word out of its original, perfect, complete context inventing a false doctrine so that you can peddle it.



Yes.



LIBEL statement. You have NO idea of WHO Jesus is and WHAT Jesus did in my stead.



Another one of your, 'Hoooooooooooooooooray, I, gt, won'?

We have to obey Jesus to be saved and Jesus says that we have to repent of our sins.

Humans are flesh and spirit. Jesus was flesh and his Spirit is the Spirit of God.

2 Corinthians 3:17 Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.

 

[God's Truth]

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You don't understand that James didn't preach one scripture from the Lord and Paul taught another one?!!!
You claim James taught something about faith that was opposed to what Paul taught!

Would you like scriptures about what Jesus says about what is divided?

You misunderstand what Paul means by faith alone. Paul is explaining faith without the purification works not faith without obedience!

 

[God's Truth]

Only gt say that that is what has been said. How sad.

BTW: God the Father IS NOT Jesus with a physical body.

Jesus is God the Father with a body and called a Son. God the Father is Spirit and as a Spirit He is invisible. God made Himself a body and it is the body of Jesus Christ.

 

[God's Truth]

Priestess gt's light has blinded you, popsthebuilder, amazing for such an enlightened one such as yourself. You are the first member to her false church. She must be very proud of your defense. She is always enthralled when someone defends her false doctrine. It amazes her that someone agrees with her false doctrine. It even surprises her.

BTW, popsthebuilder, God the Father IS NOT Jesus with a physical body as the priestess gt peddles around. The Holy Spirit is NOT Jesus with a physical body either.

Just listen to how dirty you play. You try to demean people in the worst way you can.

 

[God's Truth]

And neither is Jesus the Holy Spirit with a physical body.

The scriptures say PLAINLY that the Lord IS THE SPIRIT.

2 Corinthians 3:17 Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.

Ephesians 4:4 There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to one hope when you were called;

"…who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped" (Philippians 2:7).

This is a good scripture showing that Jesus is God the Father with a body, because the scripture says Jesus was in the FORM of God. What is God the Father's form? God the Father's form is Spirit.

Colossians 1:15 The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.

Revelation 1:14 The hair on his head was white like wool, as white as snow, and his eyes were like blazing fire.

"The Son of God, who has eyes like a flame of fire, and His feet are like burnished bronze, says this: ‘I know your deeds..."--Revelation 2:18-19

So, who is the God and Father of the Son Jesus Christ (who is still identified as the Son of God even after He was in heaven?)

Who is that fire in Jesus' eyes?

God the Father is inside Jesus.

Philippians 2:7 rather, he made himself nothing by taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness.

The Spirit gives life, 2 Corinthians 3:6

God gives life, see John 5:21.

Jesus gives life, see John 5:21.

They are EXACTLY the SAME.

1 Corinthians 15:45 So it is written: The first man Adam became a living being; the last Adam became a life-giving Spirit.

That scripture is more proof that there is ONLY ONE SPIRIT AND JESUS' SPIRIT is the Spirit of the one and only God the Father.


Jesus is the Spirit. All these scriptures tell us Jesus is the Spirit.

Revelation 2:7, 8, 11, 17, 29; 3:6, 13, 22; 14:13; 22:17.

This is Jesus speaking that those who overcome will be his children. who but a father has children?

Revelation 21:7. Those who are victorious will inherit all this, and I will be their God and they will be my children.

Jesus says that EVERYTHING he SAYS and DOES is what the FATHER says and does.

There is no way that is not God the Father come as a Son.

 

[JudgeRightly]

I nor her say that, nor scripture.

Uh, yes she does.

Jesus is God the Father with a body and called a Son.

Try again, Pops.

Jesus was the vessel and physical temple that the Holy Spirit of GOD dwelled in fully.

Now say it's false doctrine so I can pin point your self deception for you oh blind friend.

I double dog dare you.

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I'll let [MENTION=14266]lifeisgood[/MENTION] deal with this...

 

[JudgeRightly]

The scriptures say PLAINLY that the Lord IS THE SPIRIT.

2 Corinthians 3:17 Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.

Ephesians 4:4 There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to one hope when you were called;

"…who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped" (Philippians 2:7).

This is a good scripture showing that Jesus is God the Father with a body, because the scripture says Jesus was in the FORM of God. What is God the Father's form? God the Father's form is Spirit.

Colossians 1:15 The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.

Revelation 1:14 The hair on his head was white like wool, as white as snow, and his eyes were like blazing fire.

"The Son of God, who has eyes like a flame of fire, and His feet are like burnished bronze, says this: ‘I know your deeds..."--Revelation 2:18-19

So, who is the God and Father of the Son Jesus Christ (who is still identified as the Son of God even after He was in heaven?)

Who is that fire in Jesus' eyes?

God the Father is inside Jesus.

Philippians 2:7 rather, he made himself nothing by taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness.

The Spirit gives life, 2 Corinthians 3:6

God gives life, see John 5:21.

Jesus gives life, see John 5:21.

They are EXACTLY the SAME.

1 Corinthians 15:45 So it is written: The first man Adam became a living being; the last Adam became a life-giving Spirit.

That scripture is more proof that there is ONLY ONE SPIRIT AND JESUS' SPIRIT is the Spirit of the one and only God the Father.


Jesus is the Spirit. All these scriptures tell us Jesus is the Spirit.

Revelation 2:7, 8, 11, 17, 29; 3:6, 13, 22; 14:13; 22:17.

This is Jesus speaking that those who overcome will be his children. who but a father has children?

Revelation 21:7. Those who are victorious will inherit all this, and I will be their God and they will be my children.

Jesus says that EVERYTHING he SAYS and DOES is what the FATHER says and does.

There is no way that is not God the Father come as a Son.

There you go again, completely misreading what I said. I said that Jesus is not the Holy Spirit with a physical body.

I never said the Lord is not the Spirit. I said Jesus is not the Holy Spirit.

Please pay attention. I am making a distinction between "the Spirit" and "the Holy Spirit."

 

[popsthebuilder]

Uh, yes she does.



Try again, Pops.



I'll let [MENTION=14266]lifeisgood[/MENTION] deal with this...

Nope; lifeisgood keeps saying that she says GOD Jesus with a physical body, but what it keeps saying is that Jesus is that body that GOD the Father dwelled in in spirit; the Holy Spirit.

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