Death and hades will be destroyed in the lake of fire.
Hell's Daily Arrivals
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Death and hades will be destroyed in the lake of fire.
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Below is a very disturbing passage.
†. 2Ths 2:11-12 . . And for this reason God will send them strong delusion,
that they should believe the lie, that they all may be condemned who did not
believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
In other words; there's coming a time when God's patience will reach its
reasonable limits, and He will purposely, willfully, and deliberately make sure
that a certain category of people have no chance whatsoever to be spared
the wrath of God.
Back when Noah was preparing the ark, no doubt his neighbors all mocked
and poked fun at him like one of those deranged souls that go around with a
sandwich board that reads: Repent; The End Is Near! But when the rain
started, I bet those very same neighbors panicked and tried to get Noah to
open up and let them in. But even had Noah wanted to; he couldn't. The
hatch of the ark was sealed from the outside: and God was the only one on
earth who could open it-- He chose not to.
†. Rev 1:18 . . I am He who lives, and was dead, and behold, I am alive
forevermore. Amen. And I have the keys of Hades and of Death.
†. Rev 3:7 . .These are the words of him who is holy and true: who holds
the key of David. What he opens no one can shut, and what he shuts no one
can open.
Netherworld Update: 56 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If
the figures in post #1 are within reason, then something like 3,379,712 new
arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since October 30, 2015.
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Below is a very disturbing passage.
†. 2Ths 2:11-12 . . And for this reason God will send them strong delusion,
that they should believe the lie, that they all may be condemned who did not
believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
In other words; there's coming a time when God's patience will reach its
reasonable limits, and He will purposely, willfully, and deliberately make sure
that a certain category of people have no chance whatsoever to be spared
the wrath of God.
Back when Noah was preparing the ark, no doubt his neighbors all mocked
and poked fun at him like one of those deranged souls that go around with a
sandwich board that reads: Repent; The End Is Near! But when the rain
started, I bet those very same neighbors panicked and tried to get Noah to
open up and let them in. But even had Noah wanted to; he couldn't. The
hatch of the ark was sealed from the outside: and God was the only one on
earth who could open it-- He chose not to.
†. Rev 1:18 . . I am He who lives, and was dead, and behold, I am alive
forevermore. Amen. And I have the keys of Hades and of Death.
†. Rev 3:7 . .These are the words of him who is holy and true: who holds
the key of David. What he opens no one can shut, and what he shuts no one
can open.
Netherworld Update: 56 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If
the figures in post #1 are within reason, then something like 3,379,712 new
arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since October 30, 2015.
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WeberHome
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The koiné Greek word for "hell" in Rev 20:13-14 is haides (hah'-dace) which
doesn't eo ipso indicate a place of fiery suffering. It's primary meaning is the
netherworld, where, at one time, every deceased person went regardless of
their age and regardless of their goodness or their badness. Even Christ
went there (Psalm 16:10 & Acts 2:23-32) and he was a good person.
According to Luke 16:19-31, haides is (or was) divided into two sections:
one for good people and one for bad people. The section designated for good
people was (or is) quite pleasant. (Luke 23:43).
The reason haides is slated for demolition is simply because there will be no
need for it in the future. Its bad people will be transferred to the lake of fire,
and its good people to a new cosmos and a new earth as per Isa 65:17, 2Pet
3:10-13, and Rev 21:1.
Netherworld Update: 59 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If
the figures in post #1 are within reason, then something like 3,379,712 new
arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since October 30, 2015.
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The koiné Greek word for "hell" in Rev 20:13-14 is haides (hah'-dace) which
doesn't eo ipso indicate a place of fiery suffering. It's primary meaning is the
netherworld, where, at one time, every deceased person went regardless of
their age and regardless of their goodness or their badness. Even Christ
went there (Psalm 16:10 & Acts 2:23-32) and he was a good person.
According to Luke 16:19-31, haides is (or was) divided into two sections:
one for good people and one for bad people. The section designated for good
people was (or is) quite pleasant. (Luke 23:43).
The reason haides is slated for demolition is simply because there will be no
need for it in the future. Its bad people will be transferred to the lake of fire,
and its good people to a new cosmos and a new earth as per Isa 65:17, 2Pet
3:10-13, and Rev 21:1.
Netherworld Update: 59 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If
the figures in post #1 are within reason, then something like 3,379,712 new
arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since October 30, 2015.
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Not true. The grave and what it symbolizes is not divided.
The separation of body and spirit is death. The body decays and the spirit returns to God who gave it.
A person without a brain is brain dead.
WeberHome
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A forgiven sinner is still a sinner and they'll go right on sinning same as
before they were forgiven because human nature is intrinsically bad.
†. Gen 6:5 . .Yhvh saw how great man's wickedness on the earth had
become, and that every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil
all the time.
†. Gen 8:21 . . Man's thoughts and actions are bent toward evil from
childhood.
†. Jer 13:23 . . Can the Ethiopian change his skin or the leopard its spots?
Then may you also do good who are accustomed to do evil.
†. Eph 2:3 . .We were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.
Netherworld Update: 62 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If
the figures in post #1 are within reason, then something like 3,741,854 new
arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since October 30, 2015.
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A forgiven sinner is still a sinner and they'll go right on sinning same as
before they were forgiven because human nature is intrinsically bad.
†. Gen 6:5 . .Yhvh saw how great man's wickedness on the earth had
become, and that every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil
all the time.
†. Gen 8:21 . . Man's thoughts and actions are bent toward evil from
childhood.
†. Jer 13:23 . . Can the Ethiopian change his skin or the leopard its spots?
Then may you also do good who are accustomed to do evil.
†. Eph 2:3 . .We were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.
Netherworld Update: 62 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If
the figures in post #1 are within reason, then something like 3,741,854 new
arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since October 30, 2015.
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Why do you believe innocent people would be checked into this imaginary fiery sector of the grave?
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Your question is a non sequitur because it's based upon three false
premises.
1• You've falsely assumed that I believe innocent people check into the fiery
sector of hades
2• You've falsely assumed that I believe the fiery sector of hades is
imaginary
3• You've falsely assumed that I believe hades is the grave.
BTW: You really ought not be hounding me jamie. Don't you know that
persecution is a sin?
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Your question is a non sequitur because it's based upon three false
premises.
1• You've falsely assumed that I believe innocent people check into the fiery
sector of hades
2• You've falsely assumed that I believe the fiery sector of hades is
imaginary
3• You've falsely assumed that I believe hades is the grave.
BTW: You really ought not be hounding me jamie. Don't you know that
persecution is a sin?
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WeberHome
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Christ's version of Christianity is a lethal religion. It quite literally, in some
supernatural way that I don't quite understand; put Christ's believing
followers to death. Their entire existence, as natural-born human beings,
went up on the cross with him.
†. Rom 6:3 . . Or do you not know that as many of us as were baptized into
Christ Jesus were baptized into His death?
†. Rom 6:6 . . Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him
†. Gal 2:20 . . I am crucified with Christ
†. Col 3:3 . . For you died when Christ died
One of my biggest fears as a Roman Catholic was that something fatal would
happen to me in between confessions. Well; you can just imagine my relief
at discovering that people punished on the cross with Christ are in no danger
of double jeopardy; which Webster's defines as: putting someone on trial for
an offense for which they have previously been put on trial under a valid
charge viz: two adjudications for one offense.
The Great White throne event depicted at Rev 20:11-15 is for the purpose of
putting people on trial for the things they did in life. Afterwards their lives
will be terminated by a death akin to a foundry worker falling into a vat of
molten metal.
If I appear at that event at all, it will be only as a spectator and/or a witness
for the prosecution because I was put on trial for the things I do in life when
Christ was put on the cross, and my life was terminated when his was
terminated. I have no clue how this works; I only know that I'm supposed to
reckon it true. (Rom 6:3-11)
Christ offers a version of Christianity that guarantees a Ten Commandments
proof, God proof, sin proof, Devil proof, temptation proof, fool proof, human
nature proof, human error proof, fail-safe rescue from the wrath of God. It
just amazes me the number of people, even those warming pews in old
school Christian churches, who want nothing to do with it.
Netherworld Update: 65 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If
the figures in post #1 are within reason, then something like 3,922,880 new
arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since October 30, 2015.
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Christ's version of Christianity is a lethal religion. It quite literally, in some
supernatural way that I don't quite understand; put Christ's believing
followers to death. Their entire existence, as natural-born human beings,
went up on the cross with him.
†. Rom 6:3 . . Or do you not know that as many of us as were baptized into
Christ Jesus were baptized into His death?
†. Rom 6:6 . . Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him
†. Gal 2:20 . . I am crucified with Christ
†. Col 3:3 . . For you died when Christ died
One of my biggest fears as a Roman Catholic was that something fatal would
happen to me in between confessions. Well; you can just imagine my relief
at discovering that people punished on the cross with Christ are in no danger
of double jeopardy; which Webster's defines as: putting someone on trial for
an offense for which they have previously been put on trial under a valid
charge viz: two adjudications for one offense.
The Great White throne event depicted at Rev 20:11-15 is for the purpose of
putting people on trial for the things they did in life. Afterwards their lives
will be terminated by a death akin to a foundry worker falling into a vat of
molten metal.
If I appear at that event at all, it will be only as a spectator and/or a witness
for the prosecution because I was put on trial for the things I do in life when
Christ was put on the cross, and my life was terminated when his was
terminated. I have no clue how this works; I only know that I'm supposed to
reckon it true. (Rom 6:3-11)
Christ offers a version of Christianity that guarantees a Ten Commandments
proof, God proof, sin proof, Devil proof, temptation proof, fool proof, human
nature proof, human error proof, fail-safe rescue from the wrath of God. It
just amazes me the number of people, even those warming pews in old
school Christian churches, who want nothing to do with it.
Netherworld Update: 65 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If
the figures in post #1 are within reason, then something like 3,922,880 new
arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since October 30, 2015.
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It's not an assumption, it's what you have claimed. Do you not believe death removes sin?
A person without sin could certainly be perceived as innocent. You claim innocent people go to some kind of a fiery sector of hades, whatever that means. I said "imaginary" because biblically there is no fiery sector of hades whatever you mean by that term.
WeberHome
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You've inhabited Theology Online since February of 2013 and you still don't
know? Sorry, but I'm not in the habit of throwing good money after bad; if
you get my drift.
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You've inhabited Theology Online since February of 2013 and you still don't
know? Sorry, but I'm not in the habit of throwing good money after bad; if
you get my drift.
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You have no scripture to back you up ?
Here's a hint for the clueless. The Bible does not say that there are daily arrivals in Hell. That's why you failed to show even one verse that says that there are daily arrivals in Hell.
You are simply wrong. Have a nice day.
WeberHome
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Of all the comments I've ever composed about hell over the years, this one
is perhaps the most disturbing; so if there are underage children present,
you might want to shoo them out of the room before continuing.
Lorena Bobbitt made news in 1993 by amputating her husband's manhood
with a carving knife while he was asleep. She was later acquitted by reason
of insanity. Lorena's conduct was by no means ground-breaking. Wikipedia
lists a number of such cases involving women mutilating men.
Lorena's conduct was excusable under law because of her mental state; but
there are perfectly rational, sane women out and about who would be
overjoyed with ecstasy to mutilate a man; for example:
On August 01, 2009, four angry women-- Therese A. Ziemann, 47, Wendy L.
Sewell, 44, Michelle M. Belliveau, 43, and Tracy M. Hood-Davis, 30 --were
charged in Stockbridge Wisconsin for luring a married man to a motel room
where they tied him up and blindfolded him, slapped him around for a while;
then removed his knickers and used super glue to attach his private to his
stomach in retaliation for two-timing them. I really have to wonder what in
God's name is going on inside those women's heads.
According to the Beatitudes (Matt 5:3-11) heaven is a place of peace and
kindness. Women whose imaginations are laced with wicked thoughts,
having hearts infected with a brutal desire to injure men, simply can't go
there. They would hate heaven anyway because they couldn't be themselves
there and would never fit in. They would not only be prevented from
assaulting men, but they wouldn't even be permitted the cruel enjoyment of
chafing men with denigrating remarks and demeaning comments.
The lake of fire depicted in Rev 19:20, 20:11-15, and 21:8 is hot enough to
ignite sulfur, so that if gorgeous girls like say Beyonce Knowles, Paris Hilton,
and Kim Kardashian are among the damned, they will have to lose their
faces and figures yet one more time via a horribly disfiguring mode of death
akin to a foundry worker falling into a vat of molten iron. The lake of flaming
sulfur will be a terrible heartbreak for the beautiful people.
In fire and ice, the first parts of the human body to be effected are the
extremities: ears, nose, toes, fingers, and lips. And in the case of women,
extremities would include their bosom. You twisted, man-hating women out
there in cyberspace should be thinking about that. Your first few moments in
fire will be the worst part. The first thing to go will be your hair, and then
extremities. Your bosom is soft and vulnerable; and will not survive
unscathed from total bodily immersion in molten sulfur; and guess which
gender of the human race will be responsible for your death via third degree
burns all over your entire body; head to foot? A male.
†. Acts 17:31 . . For God has set a day for judging the world with justice by
the man He has appointed, and He proved this to everyone by raising him
from the dead.
In the end, it will be the sweet little gentle, turn-the-other-cheek baby Jesus
who casts malicious women into the lake and permanently ruins any chances
they might have had for happiness in the future. For all eternity, condemned
man-haters will grind their teeth with hot tears and white-knuckled fury that
they ultimately lost out on everything because of one lone male's obsessive
control over their lives; and I have no doubt whatsoever they will entertain
years of happy-thoughts dreaming of mutilating Christ should they
perchance ever manage to get their hands on him.
NOTE: There will no doubt be some bent noses over this post, and see it as
denigrating to women (while conveniently ignoring that it's a double
standard to think it's okay to denigrate men). Well, I have to ask, since
when did women become a protected species? Women are not a protected
species. There are just as many, if not more, women dehydrating in hades
as men.
You malicious women out there in cyberspace need to keep something in
mind. At the Great White Throne event depicted at Rev 20:10-15, you are
going to be judged solely on the basis of your life rather than the basis of
your looks. Christ is not going to be influenced by the silkiness of your thighs
nor the size of your bosoms; no, in point of fact; he will be quite determined
to disfigure them.
†. Rom 2:9-11. .There will be trouble and distress for every human being
who does evil: For God does not show favoritism.
†. Rev 20:15 . . And whosoever's name was not found written in the book of
life was cast into the lake of fire.
Netherworld Update: 66 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If
the figures in post #1 are within reason, then something like 3,983,232 new
arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since October 30, 2015.
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Of all the comments I've ever composed about hell over the years, this one
is perhaps the most disturbing; so if there are underage children present,
you might want to shoo them out of the room before continuing.
Lorena Bobbitt made news in 1993 by amputating her husband's manhood
with a carving knife while he was asleep. She was later acquitted by reason
of insanity. Lorena's conduct was by no means ground-breaking. Wikipedia
lists a number of such cases involving women mutilating men.
Lorena's conduct was excusable under law because of her mental state; but
there are perfectly rational, sane women out and about who would be
overjoyed with ecstasy to mutilate a man; for example:
On August 01, 2009, four angry women-- Therese A. Ziemann, 47, Wendy L.
Sewell, 44, Michelle M. Belliveau, 43, and Tracy M. Hood-Davis, 30 --were
charged in Stockbridge Wisconsin for luring a married man to a motel room
where they tied him up and blindfolded him, slapped him around for a while;
then removed his knickers and used super glue to attach his private to his
stomach in retaliation for two-timing them. I really have to wonder what in
God's name is going on inside those women's heads.
According to the Beatitudes (Matt 5:3-11) heaven is a place of peace and
kindness. Women whose imaginations are laced with wicked thoughts,
having hearts infected with a brutal desire to injure men, simply can't go
there. They would hate heaven anyway because they couldn't be themselves
there and would never fit in. They would not only be prevented from
assaulting men, but they wouldn't even be permitted the cruel enjoyment of
chafing men with denigrating remarks and demeaning comments.
The lake of fire depicted in Rev 19:20, 20:11-15, and 21:8 is hot enough to
ignite sulfur, so that if gorgeous girls like say Beyonce Knowles, Paris Hilton,
and Kim Kardashian are among the damned, they will have to lose their
faces and figures yet one more time via a horribly disfiguring mode of death
akin to a foundry worker falling into a vat of molten iron. The lake of flaming
sulfur will be a terrible heartbreak for the beautiful people.
In fire and ice, the first parts of the human body to be effected are the
extremities: ears, nose, toes, fingers, and lips. And in the case of women,
extremities would include their bosom. You twisted, man-hating women out
there in cyberspace should be thinking about that. Your first few moments in
fire will be the worst part. The first thing to go will be your hair, and then
extremities. Your bosom is soft and vulnerable; and will not survive
unscathed from total bodily immersion in molten sulfur; and guess which
gender of the human race will be responsible for your death via third degree
burns all over your entire body; head to foot? A male.
†. Acts 17:31 . . For God has set a day for judging the world with justice by
the man He has appointed, and He proved this to everyone by raising him
from the dead.
In the end, it will be the sweet little gentle, turn-the-other-cheek baby Jesus
who casts malicious women into the lake and permanently ruins any chances
they might have had for happiness in the future. For all eternity, condemned
man-haters will grind their teeth with hot tears and white-knuckled fury that
they ultimately lost out on everything because of one lone male's obsessive
control over their lives; and I have no doubt whatsoever they will entertain
years of happy-thoughts dreaming of mutilating Christ should they
perchance ever manage to get their hands on him.
NOTE: There will no doubt be some bent noses over this post, and see it as
denigrating to women (while conveniently ignoring that it's a double
standard to think it's okay to denigrate men). Well, I have to ask, since
when did women become a protected species? Women are not a protected
species. There are just as many, if not more, women dehydrating in hades
as men.
You malicious women out there in cyberspace need to keep something in
mind. At the Great White Throne event depicted at Rev 20:10-15, you are
going to be judged solely on the basis of your life rather than the basis of
your looks. Christ is not going to be influenced by the silkiness of your thighs
nor the size of your bosoms; no, in point of fact; he will be quite determined
to disfigure them.
†. Rom 2:9-11. .There will be trouble and distress for every human being
who does evil: For God does not show favoritism.
†. Rev 20:15 . . And whosoever's name was not found written in the book of
life was cast into the lake of fire.
Netherworld Update: 66 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If
the figures in post #1 are within reason, then something like 3,983,232 new
arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since October 30, 2015.
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Arthur Brain
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Okay, you're a nut.
:freak:
:freak:
:kookoo:
Ok, so you obviously don't believe death pays for sins which means Jesus' death did not pay for your sins.
Too bad.
Arthur Brain
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This Weber guy is plain unhinged. Get help dude, seriously.
WeberHome
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The wages of sin is death. (Rom 6:23)
In other words: each sin merits death.
Let's say somebody tells 50 lies in their lifetime. Well, in order to satisfy the
wages of sin for those 50 lies, the serial liar would need to undergo death 50
times; which means they would need to undergo resurrection that many
times too.
According to Dan 12:2 and John 5:28-29 there is only one resurrection
allotted per person. Well; the rub is: the serial liar will use up his one
allotted resurrection in order to face justice at the Great White Throne event
depicted at Rev 20:11-15. Which means that when the serial liar is
terminated in the lake of brimstone for the first of his 50 lies, he will remain
indebted to God to the tune of 49 lies forever. Ergo: the serial liar literally
hasn't a snowball's chance in hell of ever coming back from the brimstone.
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The wages of sin is death. (Rom 6:23)
In other words: each sin merits death.
Let's say somebody tells 50 lies in their lifetime. Well, in order to satisfy the
wages of sin for those 50 lies, the serial liar would need to undergo death 50
times; which means they would need to undergo resurrection that many
times too.
According to Dan 12:2 and John 5:28-29 there is only one resurrection
allotted per person. Well; the rub is: the serial liar will use up his one
allotted resurrection in order to face justice at the Great White Throne event
depicted at Rev 20:11-15. Which means that when the serial liar is
terminated in the lake of brimstone for the first of his 50 lies, he will remain
indebted to God to the tune of 49 lies forever. Ergo: the serial liar literally
hasn't a snowball's chance in hell of ever coming back from the brimstone.
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