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  • #61
    Originally posted by drbrumley View Post
    Lol. There is enough evidence on Biden now that we know he will not see the nomination. So the public is buying it. You need better sources.


    Tried and waited then got tired, that's about it

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    • #62
      Originally posted by drbrumley View Post
      Lol. There is enough evidence on Biden now that we know he will not see the nomination.
      he was never a viable candidate

      he's what, 97 years old?

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      • #63
        Originally posted by ok doser View Post
        he was never a viable candidate

        he's what, 97 years old?
        What other "viable" candidate do the socialists have? Pocahontas? The woman who publicly claimed to be of Indian descent for years when she is actually descended from men who volunteered to fight Indians? She thoroughly destroyed her own credibility with all her public lying. Kamala Harris who slept her way to the top? Beto, the Irishman who implies he's a Mexican? I don't see a one of them who has any credibility. Their entire game plan, since they can't publicly say what their real goals are, is here's more "free" stuff and the continued strategy of we hate Trump so bad we will try anything to destroy him.

        Oh, what a political platform. Such a sane, well-reasoned, approach to the issues this nation faces..... LOL. Yeah, right.
        “Liberty cannot be established without morality, nor morality without faith.”
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        • #64
          Originally posted by ok doser View Post
          So, impeachment?
          Why are the Democrats trying to impeach Trump?
          Do they think Trump was responsible for Hunter Biden getting a $50,000 per month job on the board of Burisma, a Ukrainian energy company, during the time when Hunter Biden's father was Vice President of the USA?
          Do they think Trump was involved in the allegations of corruption against Burisma?
          Learn to read what is written.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by jgarden View Post
            The fact that Trump would conduct these conversations with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky in the aftermath of the Mueller Investigation only raises serious questions concerning his judgement and mental fitness to hold office!
            Not really.
            There is nothing wrong with the leader of America suggesting that the leader of Ukraine should check into the circumstances of a situation where the son of an American Vice President was involved with a Ukrainian company that was being investigated for allegations of corruption and the investigation stopped around the time that Ukraine received one billion dollars in aid from America.

            The current situation does raise serious questions concerning the judgment and mental fitness to hold office of the Democrats that are calling for impeachment.
            Learn to read what is written.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by genuineoriginal View Post
              Why are the Democrats trying to impeach Trump?
              Do they think Trump was responsible for Hunter Biden getting a $50,000 per month job on the board of Burisma, a Ukrainian energy company, during the time when Hunter Biden's father was Vice President of the USA?
              Do they think Trump was involved in the allegations of corruption against Burisma?
              this is the real story to me - how Vice President Biden accepted a $50,000 a month bribe from the Ukies and laundered it through his son


              to the dems, it's just business as usual

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              • #67
                Your article says :"Trump crime of extorting Ukraine into digging up dirt on Joe Biden’s son"

                What does the transcript say happened?

                Read Trump's phone conversation with Volodymyr Zelensky

                President Zelenskyy: Yes it is very important for me and everything that you just mentioned earlier. For me as a President, it is very important and we are open for any future cooperation. We are ready to open a new page on cooperation in relations between the United States and Ukraine. For that purpose, I just recalled our ambassador from United States and he will be replaced by a very competent and very experienced ambassador who will work hard on making sure that our two nations are getting closer. I would also like and hope to see him having your trust and your confidence and have personal relations with you so we can cooperate even more so. I will personally tell you that one of my assistants spoke with Mr. Giuliani just recently and we are hoping very much that Mr. Giuliani will be able to travel to Ukraine and we will meet once he comes to Ukraine. I just wanted to assure you once again that you have nobody but friends around us. I will make sure that I surround myself with the best and most experienced people. I also wanted to tell you that we are friends. We are great friends and you Mr. President have friends in our country so we can continue our strategic partnership. I also plan to surround myself with great people and in addition to that investigation, I guarantee as the President of Ukraine that all the investigations will be done openly and candidly.. That I can assure you.

                The President: Good because I heard you had a prosecutor who was very good and he was shut down and that's really unfair. A lot of people are talking about that, the way they shut your very good prosecutor down and you had some very bad people involved. Mr. Giuliani is a highly respected man. He was the mayor of New York City, a great mayor, and I would like him to call you. I will ask him to call you along with the Attorney General. Rudy very much knows what's happening and he is a very capable guy. If you could speak to him that would be great. The former ambassador from the United States, the woman, was bad news and the people she was dealing with in the Ukraine were bad news so I just want to let you know that. The other thing, There's a lot of talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it... It sounds horrible to me.


                From the transcript, it seems that the Ukraine ambassador to the USA was replaced because she was "bad news" and was dealing with people in the Ukraine that were also "bad news".
                Because of all the "bad news" (shady and illegal activity) going on related to the USA and the Ukraine, the rumors about ex-Vice President Biden's son were being repeated in the White House.
                Trump asked Zelensky to look into a rumor that Biden was going around bragging that he stopped a prosecution that was looking into some bad people in the Ukraine because his son was involved with them.

                No crime was committed.
                No extortion was committed.
                No "dirt digging" was going on.

                What happened was that President Trump was letting Zelensky know that information about anything shady and illegal that went on in the Ukraine would get back to the American President, so Zelinsky needed to make sure everything was on the up and up and fully open and candid as he said would happen.

                If Biden couldn't keep his mouth shut about doing something shady or illegal during the investigation of his son, Trump's was justified in asking if it was true.
                Learn to read what is written.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by annabenedetti View Post
                  I didn't catch the name of the Congresswoman who after Pelosi's speech said "This is about patriotism. This is about the Constitution."

                  Bingo. And the righties don't care about either.
                  What bizarro world are you living in?
                  It is the people on the right who care about patriotism and the Constitution.

                  The leftists condemn patriotism, they call it nationalism and say anyone that believes in patriotism is a Nazi.
                  The leftists condemn the Constitution, refuse to accept what it says in clear language, and invent all kind of things that they claim the Constitution says that can't be found anywhere in the actual words of the Constitution.
                  Learn to read what is written.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by drbrumley View Post
                    we now wait to see what a long overdue probe into Joe Biden will reveal.
                    Obama is ready to use his ex-Presidential powers to issue a Pardon for anything Joe Biden did in office.
                    Learn to read what is written.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by annabenedetti View Post
                      Someone has to look out for this country.
                      How are the Leftists going to look out for this country when they are so busy trying to destroy it and every principle this country was founded upon?
                      Learn to read what is written.

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                      • #71
                        Biden's approval among democrats is slightly up from his approval rate this summer, which gives you some idea of how will the "Biden Baaaad!" Story is playing among Americans.

                        https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...ion-6730.html#!
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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by The Barbarian View Post
                          Biden's approval among democrats is ...

                          ... a foregone conclusion

                          this isn't a battle for the thoughts and minds of the registered democrats and republicans, moron

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by genuineoriginal View Post
                            How are the Leftists going to look out for this country when they are so busy trying to destroy it and every principle this country was founded upon?
                            Trump isn't a leftist. And he's not focused enough to be trying to destroy our nation and it's freedoms. He just doesn't care. Most of the radical right is like that. With the exception of the relatively few Nazis and other fascists, that bunch is mostly "what's in it for me?"

                            That's how democracies fall. It's not by nefarious plots, it's by people who care intensely about what they want, and who regard the freedoms of other people and religions to be disposable.

                            The biggest threat to America, as the FBI has been pointing out for years, is from terrorists on the right. And they don't have much. Populism is a "thin" ideology, mostly fixated on "the elites are out to destroy your and everything you hold dear, and if you give me your rights, I'll save you. Oh, and I can make a lot of money, too."
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                            • #74
                              Interesting article here from zerohedge. It shows that the Dems were colluding with the Ukrainians in 2016 to help Hillary in the election.

                              After a multi-year investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 US election that resulted in sanctions and a handful of indictments, the fact that Ukraine meddled in the same election been largely ignored.
                              Veteran Democratic operative Alexandra Chalupa worked directly with the Ukrainian Embassy in the United States, and investigative reporter Michael Isikoff to target Trump campaign chair Paul Manafort, according to a Politico report.
                              https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitic...on-2016-leaked
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                              • #75
                                Glenn Beck did a 2 hour long chalkboard presentation on the Democrat's scandal in the Ukraine. He lays the entire scenario out and provides links to all the documents in the link following the video. This is well worth watching as there is information/evidence gathered together here that is found in no other single place. The video moves slowly at first, but once he gets into the chalkboard presentation it gets extremely interesting, and damning for the Democrats. The leftists here will scream bloody murder over this. The ad hominen attacks against Beck will be in great supply. The Obama administration was deeply involved in all of this, so if you think you'll find all of this information tied together by the mockingbird media you're going to have to rethink that.



                                The following link has the above video embedded in it, plus links to all the documents Glenn uses in his presentation. Many of them come from the Ukrainian legal system where two of the Ukrainians involved in this were convicted of interfering in the US presidential election. Bet you didn't hear or read that from the mockingbird media. Front page news in the Ukraine, but not even a mention here. Who'd a thunk it? Important news like that completely suppressed in the US.

                                https://www.glennbeck.com/glenn-beck...ndal-explained
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