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  • #16
    Originally posted by annabenedetti View Post
    Analysis: The special counsel's live-TV contradiction of Trump's 'total exoneration' claim may be enough to kick-start the process in the House.

    In the sober, restrained tones of a prep school dean, the veteran prosecutor went live on national television Wednesday to contradict President Donald Trump's mantra of "total exoneration" in the Russia probe and to tell the country that the responsibility of holding Trump accountable for possible obstruction of justice lays at the feet of Congress because the Department of Justice won't do it.

    "After that investigation, if we had confidence that the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said that," Mueller explained at a Justice Department press conference at which he announced he was dissolving his office and resigning. "We did not, however, make a determination as to whether the president did commit a crime."



    Start the hearings NOW.
    In the sober, restrained tones of a corrupt snowflake school dean, the very corrupt prosecutor went live on national television Wednesday to contradict President Donald Trump's mantra of "total exoneration" in the Russia probe and to tell the country that the responsibility of holding Trump accountable for possible obstruction of justice lays at the feet of Congress because the Department of Justice can't legally charge Trump for lack of evidence.

    Fixed that for you, Anna. In a multiple year politically inspired witch hunt, using Trump's political enemies as investigators, Muler (intentional spelling)couldn't find any legal evidence for charging Trump with collusion or any other form of an impeachable crime so now he's claiming impeachment doesn't actually require any crime by a president other than having his political opponents hate and fear him.
    “Liberty cannot be established without morality, nor morality without faith.”
    ― Alexis de Tocqueville, Democracy in America

    “One and God make a majority.”
    ― Frederick Douglass

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    • #17
      Originally posted by ffreeloader View Post
      In the sober, restrained tones of a corrupt snowflake school dean, the very corrupt prosecutor went live on national television Wednesday to contradict President Donald Trump's mantra of "total exoneration" in the Russia probe and to tell the country that the responsibility of holding Trump accountable for possible obstruction of justice lays at the feet of Congress because the Department of Justice can't legally charge Trump for lack of evidence.

      Fixed that for you, Anna. In a multiple year politically inspired witch hunt, using Trump's political enemies as investigators, Muler (intentional spelling)couldn't find any legal evidence for charging Trump with collusion or any other form of an impeachable crime so now he's claiming impeachment doesn't actually require any crime by a president other than having his political opponents hate and fear him.

      Word salad. ^^

      Tried and waited then got tired, that's about it

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      • #18
        Originally posted by annabenedetti View Post
        Word salad. ^^
        I guess, then, your posts on this thread reach the level of word sal. In other words, they fall short of even being considered word salad.

        You really reveal the level of your political devotion to a less than worthy cause when you dismiss facts such as who Muler used to filled his "investagatory" team. The fact that every one of them were donors to the Hillary campaign, and many had actually worked for Hillary and were Democrat operatives shows the extreme bias of the so-called "investigation". If the Republicans did that to a Democrat you'd be complaining loudly. It's people like you who really contribute to the political polarization in this country. A polarization that is tearing this country apart at the seams, and you're all for it and actively participate in creating it by not caring about the massive corruption on your side of the political aisle.
        “Liberty cannot be established without morality, nor morality without faith.”
        ― Alexis de Tocqueville, Democracy in America

        “One and God make a majority.”
        ― Frederick Douglass

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        • #19
          Originally posted by ffreeloader View Post
          I guess, then, your posts on this thread reach the level of word sal. In other words, they fall short of even being considered word salad.
          ^^ wince-worthy

          You really reveal the level of your political devotion to a less than worthy cause when you dismiss facts such as who Muler used to filled his "investagatory" team. The fact that every one of them were donors to the Hillary campaign, and many had actually worked for Hillary and were Democrat operatives shows the extreme bias of the so-called "investigation". If the Republicans did that to a Democrat you'd be complaining loudly. It's people like you who really contribute to the political polarization in this country. A polarization that is tearing this country apart at the seams, and you're all for it and actively participate in creating it by not caring about the massive corruption on your side of the political aisle.
          Very polarized partisan whataboutism word salad ^^

          Tried and waited then got tired, that's about it

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          • #20
            Originally posted by annabenedetti View Post
            ^^ wince-worthy



            Very polarized partisan whataboutism word salad ^^
            LOL.... So, being opposed to a politically motivated one-sided witch hunt of either of the two large political parties is being a "polarized partisan"? Interesting definition of partisanship. BTW, I'm neither Republican nor Democrat. I'm registered as an Independent. Both parties are corrupt to their cores. I could not, and would not, be a member of either.
            “Liberty cannot be established without morality, nor morality without faith.”
            ― Alexis de Tocqueville, Democracy in America

            “One and God make a majority.”
            ― Frederick Douglass

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            • #21
              Originally posted by ffreeloader View Post
              LOL.... So, being opposed to a politically motivated one-sided witch hunt of either of the two large political parties is being a "polarized partisan"? Interesting definition of partisanship.
              Anyone without a dog in the hunt would read your screed as poisonously partisan while opining on polarization.

              Not that it's unusual for these political times, but it certainly isn't conducive to any kind of halfway helpful discussion.

              BTW, I'm neither Republican nor Democrat. I'm registered as an Independent. Both parties are corrupt to their cores. I could not, and would not, be a member of either.
              Surprise! I'm registered in CA as NPP (no party preference). You don't have to be a member of our for-all-intents-and-purposes-two-party-system to actively champion one and vociferously despise the other.

              Tried and waited then got tired, that's about it

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              • #22
                Originally posted by annabenedetti View Post
                Anyone without a dog in the hunt would read your screed as poisonously partisan while opining on polarization.

                Not that it's unusual for these political times, but it certainly isn't conducive to any kind of halfway helpful discussion.



                Surprise! I'm registered in CA as NPP (no party preference). You don't have to be a member of our for-all-intents-and-purposes-two-party-system to actively champion one and vociferously despise the other.
                If you actually read a lot of my posts you would see that I am no easier on the Republicans than I am the Democrats. Corruption is corruption no matter who is guilty of it. And corruption destroys a nation. Ryan and McConnel are corrupt to their core. They said one thing and have done exactly the opposite for a long, long time. I could point to many others too. One such would be Kevin McCarthy who took Ryan's place.
                “Liberty cannot be established without morality, nor morality without faith.”
                ― Alexis de Tocqueville, Democracy in America

                “One and God make a majority.”
                ― Frederick Douglass

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by ffreeloader View Post
                  If you actually read a lot of my posts you would see that I am no easier on the Republicans than I am the Democrats. Corruption is corruption no matter who is guilty of it. And corruption destroys a nation. Ryan and McConnel are corrupt to their core. They said one thing and have done exactly the opposite for a long, long time. I could point to many others too. One such would be Kevin McCarthy who took Ryan's place.
                  I haven't been here for awhile. All I'm going on are your posts I'm responding to in the recent days, but my initial thought is why discuss Mueller with you when you won't even spell his name right? Opinions regarding Mueller are mixed in the Democratic camp too, some think his Republican is showing in his overly narrow focus and unwillingness to rock the boat, others praise his devotion to duty and country.

                  I agree with you that Ryan and McConnell are corrupt, and history will not treat them well. There's a lot I don't agree with you on, too - one thing I wish for and look for is someone who still centers their political values on the values held forth by the Constitution.

                  Tried and waited then got tired, that's about it

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                  • #24
                    What the Mueller Report Actually Said
                    David Frum
                    May 29, 2019
                    Robert Mueller has advised Americans to go back and actually read his report if we want to understand what happened in 2016. “We chose those words carefully, and the work speaks for itself,” he said on Wednesday morning, speaking publicly for the first time since his appointment.

                    But the words of the report are damning.

                    “The Russian government interfered in the 2016 presidential election in sweeping and systematic fashion,” Mueller wrote. This help “favored presidential candidate Donald J. Trump and disparaged presidential candidate Hillary Clinton.”

                    The Trump campaign “expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts,” and it “welcomed” this help.

                    There is insufficient evidence to accuse the Trump campaign of criminal conspiracy with its Russian benefactors. However, “the social media campaign and the GRU hacking operations coincided with a series of contacts between Trump Campaign officials and individuals with ties to the Russian government.”

                    Read Mueller’s first public comments on the Russia investigation

                    These contacts were covered up by a series of lies, both to the special counsel and to Congress. Lying by the Trump campaign successfully obscured much of what happened in 2016. The special counsel in some cases “was not able to corroborate witness statements through comparison to contemporaneous communications or fully question witnesses about statements that appeared inconsistent with other known facts.” In particular, the investigation never did determine what happened to proprietary Trump-campaign polling data shared with the Russians.

                    Within hours of the appointment of a special counsel to investigate 2016 events, Trump began defaming him. Trump had already fired the FBI director who investigated these events. His first order to fire the special counsel appointed in the director’s place was issued on June 17, 2017, a month after Mueller’s appointment. That order would be followed by many more. Trump directed his staff to lie about these orders.

                    Over and above his efforts to fire the special counsel, “the President engaged in a second phase of conduct, involving public attacks on the investigation, non-public efforts to control it, and efforts in both public and private to encourage witnesses not to cooperate with the investigation.”

                    The subversion of the investigation was brazen. “Many of the President’s acts directed at witnesses, including discouragement of cooperation with the government and suggestions of possible future pardons, occurred in public view.”


                    When are Trump supporters going to face the reality that they cared more about what Trump could do for them than what damage Trump would do to the country?

                    Tried and waited then got tired, that's about it

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by ffreeloader View Post
                      In the sober, restrained tones of a corrupt snowflake school dean, the very corrupt prosecutor went live on national television Wednesday to contradict President Donald Trump's mantra of "total exoneration" in the Russia probe and to tell the country that the responsibility of holding Trump accountable for possible obstruction of justice lays at the feet of Congress because the Department of Justice can't legally charge Trump for lack of evidence.

                      Fixed that for you, Anna. In a multiple year politically inspired witch hunt, using Trump's political enemies as investigators, Muler (intentional spelling)couldn't find any legal evidence for charging Trump with collusion or any other form of an impeachable crime so now he's claiming impeachment doesn't actually require any crime by a president other than having his political opponents hate and fear him.

                      Mueller is a hack and a fraud.


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                      • #26
                        So, on the one side you have Democrats: Now the murderers of full grown babies after birth, admitted socialists, the promoters of perversions like transgenderism and gay marriage, suppressors of free speech on college campuses, and everything else bad with America.

                        Then you have Trump, a snarky tweeter to be sure, but a man who has given us the lowest unemployment numbers in 50 years, now up to 3.2 GDP which Obama said was impossible, bringing manufacturing jobs back to America, and was even voted Pro Life person of the year by Operation Rescue.

                        And we have buffoon and a fool who started this thread who prefers the former and wants to impeach the latter.

                        Is there any more clear example of blind hate and ignorance, and Trump Derangement Syndrome than that?


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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by annabenedetti View Post
                          I haven't been here for awhile. All I'm going on are your posts I'm responding to in the recent days, but my initial thought is why discuss Mueller with you when you won't even spell his name right? Opinions regarding Mueller are mixed in the Democratic camp too, some think his Republican is showing in his overly narrow focus and unwillingness to rock the boat, others praise his devotion to duty and country.

                          I agree with you that Ryan and McConnell are corrupt, and history will not treat them well. There's a lot I don't agree with you on, too - one thing I wish for and look for is someone who still centers their political values on the values held forth by the Constitution.
                          Feel free to point out my supposed opposition to Constitutional values and point to the relevant portion of the Constitution. I much prefer that to unsupported, vague, and meaningless assertions on your part. If you're going to accuse me of something come right out and point out particulars.
                          “Liberty cannot be established without morality, nor morality without faith.”
                          ― Alexis de Tocqueville, Democracy in America

                          “One and God make a majority.”
                          ― Frederick Douglass

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by ffreeloader View Post
                            Feel free to point out my supposed opposition to Constitutional values and point to the relevant portion of the Constitution. I much prefer that to unsupported, vague, and meaningless assertions on your part. If you're going to accuse me of something come right out and point out particulars.
                            That last wasn't aimed at you personally, poor editing on my part. I should have put a period after "too" and then put the rest in a separate paragraph. I apologize for the unintentional implication.

                            Now that's cleared up, feel free to respond to any other part of my post.
                            Last edited by annabenedetti; May 31st, 2019, 07:27 AM.

                            Tried and waited then got tired, that's about it

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by annabenedetti View Post
                              ... the values held forth by the Constitution.

                              which particular values?

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by annabenedetti View Post
                                I haven't been here for awhile. All I'm going on are your posts I'm responding to in the recent days, but my initial thought is why discuss Mueller with you when you won't even spell his name right? Opinions regarding Mueller are mixed in the Democratic camp too, some think his Republican is showing in his overly narrow focus and unwillingness to rock the boat, others praise his devotion to duty and country.

                                I agree with you that Ryan and McConnell are corrupt, and history will not treat them well. There's a lot I don't agree with you on, too - one thing I wish for and look for is someone who still centers their political values on the values held forth by the Constitution.
                                Muler is so corrupt he deserves zero respect. He has a very long history, decades, of corrupt behavior. He has been a Clinton fixer since he was first appointed by Bill. You don't become a fixer for the most notorious crime family in the US without being irredeemably corrupt yourself. He has intentionally been a part of railroading men into jail for crimes they did not commit. And he then did his best to keep them in jail afterwards. And for what? To protect a criminal. In my eyes Muler is scum of the earth.
                                “Liberty cannot be established without morality, nor morality without faith.”
                                ― Alexis de Tocqueville, Democracy in America

                                “One and God make a majority.”
                                ― Frederick Douglass

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