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  • #91
    Originally posted by DFT_Dave View Post
    Here is a short list of observable proofs for a flat earth:

    1. There is no visible curvature.

    2. All bodies of water are absolutely level.

    3. All aircraft move over a stationary flat plain.

    Arguments against these facts contradict sensory perception.

    --Dave
    I was in the navy and we had a powerful set of binoculars we called "big eyes". One day I could see a carrier way off in the distance but I could only see the top half. The rest was hidden by the curvature of the earth.

    If the earth is flat, why are all the other celestial bodies spherical?
    Wretched man that I am.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by turbosixx View Post
      I was in the navy and we had a powerful set of binoculars we called "big eyes". One day I could see a carrier way off in the distance but I could only see the top half. The rest was hidden by the curvature of the earth.

      If the earth is flat, why are all the other celestial bodies spherical?
      Dave will suggest they are just flat like the earth. Science is wrong, apparently however, not the science that developed computers and the internet. Just the science he and his wackadoodle buddies do not "believe". Ah, well, we are on TOL.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by turbosixx View Post
        I was in the navy and we had a powerful set of binoculars we called "big eyes". One day I could see a carrier way off in the distance but I could only see the top half. The rest was hidden by the curvature of the earth.

        If the earth is flat, why are all the other celestial bodies spherical?
        The answer is in the videos, so I suggest you view some of them before you respond.

        --Dave
        www.dynamicfreetheism.com
        The only view of ultimate reality that provides
        rational answers to the questions of human origin, destiny, and dignity.
        The only view that proves the existence and explains
        the nature of God.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by DFT_Dave View Post
          The answer is in the videos, so I suggest you view some of them before you respond.

          --Dave
          This is a text based forum, not a video sharing site, so I suggest you summarise your answer in a post.


          Self appointed representative of the reality based community. [Send complaints to /dev/null.]

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          • #95
            Originally posted by gcthomas View Post
            This is a text based forum, not a video sharing site, so I suggest you summarise your answer in a post.
            I agree. It is a bit much to expect people to watch hours of videos. That is especially the case when they are reluctant to even consider your ideas. Why should a skeptic spend hours of his time watching videos about something he thinks is ridiculous? If you have a case to make, I expect it can be explained in a short paragraph.

            There are such explanations about ships on the horizon online. They take about 2 minutes to read and understand, and another half minute to realize that they are silly.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by Jonahdog View Post
              Dave will suggest they are just flat like the earth. Science is wrong, apparently however, not the science that developed computers and the internet. Just the science he and his wackadoodle buddies do not "believe". Ah, well, we are on TOL.
              Then we all should be used to it, since that's no different than what we've seen from 6days and the other creationists around here. They all pretty much operate according to that framework, the only difference being which areas of science they apply it to. For Dave it's the shape of the earth and general cosmology, and with 6days et al. it's evolutionary biology, cosmology, and geology (generally speaking).
              "The way to deal with superstition is not to be polite to it, but to tackle it with all arms, and so rout it, cripple it, and make it forever infamous and ridiculous." --H.L. Mencken

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              • #97
                Originally posted by ok doser View Post
                not very flat in my back yard
                It has been said that given the proportion of heights and valleys on the Earth, it is smoother than a billiard ball if expanded to earth's size.
                I Champion GOD’s holiness:
                - GOD did not need evil so did not create evil for any reason.
                - All evil is creature-created.

                I Champion Our Free will:
                - All spirits created in HIS image had an equal ability and opportunity to choose either heaven or hell by their free will.

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                • #98
                  There is no visible curvature.
                  Yeah there is. You never climbed a mountain? Took a plane?

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by Wick Stick View Post
                    Yeah there is. You never climbed a mountain? Took a plane?
                    And the shadow of the Earth is curved. And I can't see France from Sussex. And because Dave's conspiracy theories are free of any clear thought.


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                    • Originally posted by gcthomas View Post
                      This is a text based forum, not a video sharing site, so I suggest you summarise your answer in a post.
                      Says who?

                      --Dave
                      www.dynamicfreetheism.com
                      The only view of ultimate reality that provides
                      rational answers to the questions of human origin, destiny, and dignity.
                      The only view that proves the existence and explains
                      the nature of God.

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                      • Originally posted by chair View Post
                        I agree. It is a bit much to expect people to watch hours of videos. That is especially the case when they are reluctant to even consider your ideas. Why should a skeptic spend hours of his time watching videos about something he thinks is ridiculous? If you have a case to make, I expect it can be explained in a short paragraph.

                        There are such explanations about ships on the horizon online. They take about 2 minutes to read and understand, and another half minute to realize that they are silly.
                        The videos in this case are important because we a dealing here with visual evidence. The case for the shape of the earth is not philosophy or theology.

                        I have viewed a number of videos and I hope others will look at what I have seen and then comment on them.

                        Most of you seem to be afraid to do this, I understand. I thought I would have a good laugh when I started but I was very surprised at what I found.

                        --Dave
                        www.dynamicfreetheism.com
                        The only view of ultimate reality that provides
                        rational answers to the questions of human origin, destiny, and dignity.
                        The only view that proves the existence and explains
                        the nature of God.

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                        • Originally posted by ok doser View Post
                          not very flat in my back yard

                          Damn...is that your backyard?!

                          I'm jealous.
                          _/\_

                          Christians: "I - a stranger and afraid - in a world I never made.." -- Houseman

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                          • Originally posted by gcthomas View Post
                            And the shadow of the Earth is curved. And I can't see France from Sussex. And because Dave's conspiracy theories are free of any clear thought.
                            They are not my theories.

                            --Dave
                            www.dynamicfreetheism.com
                            The only view of ultimate reality that provides
                            rational answers to the questions of human origin, destiny, and dignity.
                            The only view that proves the existence and explains
                            the nature of God.

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                            • Originally posted by quip View Post
                              Damn...is that your backyard?!

                              I'm jealous.
                              The flat earth view does not say there are no mountains. The view is that we do not live on a globe.

                              --Dave
                              www.dynamicfreetheism.com
                              The only view of ultimate reality that provides
                              rational answers to the questions of human origin, destiny, and dignity.
                              The only view that proves the existence and explains
                              the nature of God.

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                              • ...Here's mine:
                                _/\_

                                Christians: "I - a stranger and afraid - in a world I never made.." -- Houseman

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