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  • #46
    HA! I like his dedication. Ok, here's a couple challenges:

    1. If the earth is "flat" and has been hit by meteors and such, why isn't the earth rotating around like a flipped coin in the air? We know it's not due to the consistent location of the North Star.

    2. Where does the ocean go? Does it fall off the edge of the earth? Or is there some great barrier keeping it in place?
    If you have material wealth, but do not give to those in need, then the love of God is not in you. Whatever you have done for the least of these you have done for HIM. To give to the poor is to lend to the LORD.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by musterion View Post
      By Dave's logic, both sun and moon must be flat discs.
      can you prove they're not?

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      • #48
        Have you noticed that when you look up at the moon, you always see the same features? You can see craters and patches of different colors. With a pair of binoculars or a telescope, you can make out even more detail. But no matter how you look at the moon, you're always seeing the same landscape. What's on the other side of the moon? --http://science.howstuffworks.com/dark-side-of-moon.htm

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        • #49
          This video will satisfy every person on here, flat earther or otherwise. People should be more open minded.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by csuguy View Post
            HA! I like his dedication. Ok, here's a couple challenges:

            1. If the earth is "flat" and has been hit by meteors and such, why isn't the earth rotating around like a flipped coin in the air? We know it's not due to the consistent location of the North Star.

            2. Where does the ocean go? Does it fall off the edge of the earth? Or is there some great barrier keeping it in place?
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            • #51
              Originally posted by DFT_Dave View Post
              Here is a short list of observable proofs for a flat earth:

              1. There is no visible curvature.

              2. All bodies of water are absolutely level.

              3. All aircraft move over a stationary flat plain.

              Arguments against these facts contradict sensory perception.

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              • #52
                [MENTION=4980]DFT_Dave[/MENTION] ...Buzz Aldrin? The fellow I heard personally was James Irwin.
                Without Genesis, absolutely nothing makes sense in all of Scripture.

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                • #53
                  There's cheap and easy to attain GPS out there. Get a device with it, pick a point, and start traveling until you get back to that point. Along the way, please video the edge of the plane we are on, step over the corner so that you're perpendicular to the plane we are on and then continue along the side of Earth until you climb over the corner to be under the plane we are on. Do that for the other side and then I'll believe the earth is flat. If you don't have to do any of that but you end up back at the same point, then the earth is some sort of spherical shape, not flat and doesn't continue on for some indefinite amount of distance.

                  Go out there and prove it for yourself, instead of believing random con artists on youtube who just want to make a bunch of nickels from you clicking on all their videos and the hope that you'll obsessively share them. That's the real tragedy in this. Before the internet, people, if they cared enough, would go out there on adventure and find out the truth for themselves. Now, they just sit on their computer believing whatever they see pop up.
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                  • #54
                    Bible says contrary.

                    Isaiah 40:22 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

                    22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth,
                    and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers;
                    that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain,
                    and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:
                    He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose.

                    Jim Elliot

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by 6days View Post
                      [MENTION=4980]DFT_Dave[/MENTION] ...Buzz Aldrin? The fellow I heard personally was James Irwin.
                      Sorry, James Aldrin.
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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Ask Mr. Religion View Post
                        Thanks,

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Bright Raven View Post
                          Bible says contrary.

                          Isaiah 40:22 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

                          22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth,
                          and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers;
                          that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain,
                          and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:
                          A circle is not a ball.

                          --Dave
                          www.dynamicfreetheism.com
                          The only view of ultimate reality that provides
                          rational answers to the questions of human origin, destiny, and dignity.
                          The only view that proves the existence and explains
                          the nature of God.

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                          • #58
                            It is interesting that the ancient Greeks knew the Earth was a ball, and even calculated its diameter fairly accurately.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by DFT_Dave View Post
                              Lolz - Ok so you think there's a giant wall of ice keeping the sea in place, and defend the position by saying the governments keeping it a secret. Tell me - if the sun is rotating around the flat earth, from above to below it and back again, why is it so cold on the perimeters such that a giant ice ring would form like you are proposing? Ice monsters?

                              Also - I see you conveniently ignored my first challenge to you. No video for that one?
                              If you have material wealth, but do not give to those in need, then the love of God is not in you. Whatever you have done for the least of these you have done for HIM. To give to the poor is to lend to the LORD.

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                              • #60
                                I spent many months now watching every conspiracy theory on you tube I could find. I had never considered them before but decided to see what they had to say. After all, as an open theist, I am a conspiracy theorist who claims that the church had for centuries covered up the literal view of God who has a past and a future and replaced it with a timeless God of Greek philosophy.

                                Am I a conspiracy theorist for believing in creation instead of evolution? Some would say yes. I would have to say that the many flights I have taken from New York City to Minneapolis over the years have convinced me that the earth is flat and not moving beneath the plane.

                                I could be a Christian, free and open theist, if the earth is a globe or flat. Having lived through the 50's to today I have no good reason to believe our government, the CIA, NASA, or modern science about anything.

                                I think that the you tube conspiracy folk should be heard and have a right to freely publish on the internet. The arguments for a flat, stationary earth are very compelling and the "we went to the moon" crowd are very suspicious. I offer this thread as a very possible truth that we should not lightly dismiss. I hope that many here will examine closely the arguments made for this Biblically supported cosmology.

                                --Dave
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                                rational answers to the questions of human origin, destiny, and dignity.
                                The only view that proves the existence and explains
                                the nature of God.

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