The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

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It is interesting that the ancient Greeks knew the Earth was a ball, and even calculated its diameter fairly accurately.
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"The flat Earth model is an archaic conception of the Earth's shape as a plane or disk. Many ancient cultures subscribed to a flat Earth cosmography, including Greece until the classical period, the Bronze Age and Iron Age civilizations of the Near East until the Hellenistic period, India until the Gupta period (early centuries AD), and China until the 17th century. That paradigm was also typically held in the aboriginal cultures of the Americas, and the notion of a flat Earth domed by the firmament in the shape of an inverted bowl was common in pre-scientific societies."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Earth

Do you know what is believed to be the shape of the universe?

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Dave... Quite a few astronauts claim Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior, and discuss looking down on our globe. I personally heard the testimony of one who walked on the moon. Are you saying these people are all either liars or confused?
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This is pretty much word for word what "evolutionists" ask you regarding all of the Christian scientists that reject a young Earth
 
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Greg Jennings said:
This is pretty much word for word what "evolutionists" ask you regarding all of the Christian scientists that reject a young Earth
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Some one saying "I am a Christian" does not prove they went to the moon. There are those who say they are Christians who believe in evolution which does not prove that evolution is true either.

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*Some one saying "I am a Christian" does not prove they went to the moon.
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True.

They could be lying.... but that isn't consistent with the testimony and character of these men.


They all could be delusional...again this isn't consistent with logic or evidence.


They could all be telling the truth. Why are you opposed to that possibility?*


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There are those who say they are Christians who believe in evolution which does not prove that evolution is true either.*
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True.... *a belief or an interpretation of evidence *can be false. *So, are you saying that that astronauts all believed they were on the moon.... but weren't? *How do you explain the thousands of consistent and coinciding accounts, from many astronauts, ground control people, family members and more? *Have all the worlds media been duped? Of the 979,845 media people in this world, don't you think one of them would want the story of a lifetime exposing the hoax? Of the 979,846 scientists in this world, surely at least a few would be whispering of this hoax?


Like others have said.... The belief the moon landing was a hoax seems so 'out there', that it isn't worth debating.*
 
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True.

They could be lying.... but that isn't consistent with the testimony and character of these men.

They all could be delusional...again this isn't consistent with logic or evidence.

They could all be telling the truth. Why are you opposed to that possibility?*

True.... *a belief or an interpretation of evidence *can be false. *So, are you saying that that astronauts all believed they were on the moon.... but weren't? *How do you explain the thousands of consistent and coinciding accounts, from many astronauts, ground control people, family members and more? *Have all the worlds media been duped? Of the 979,845 media people in this world, don't you think one of them would want the story of a lifetime exposing the hoax? Of the 979,846 scientists in this world, surely at least a few would be whispering of this hoax?

Like others have said.... The belief the moon landing was a hoax seems so 'out there', that it isn't worth debating.*
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There are basic laws of physics that help us see the flaws of evolution, yet, for one reason or another, many Christians and well meaning people, still believe in evolution.

There are many flaws that violate laws of physics in the moon landing account that prove it was staged. For example, there is absolutely no moisture on the moons surface so there should be no well defined foot prints. The surface would be like hot dry sand on the beach.

The blast from the rocket engine while landing would have created a small crater underneath the lander and a lot of dust would have been visible on the landing pads, yet neither exist.

And there's much more, so these events must be looked at. We have been lied to about an earth that has evolved, we are being lied to about multi-universes, and I suspect we are being lied to about outer space and the moon landings.

A theory of physics that is relativity, is no different to me than a morality that is relativity, if you get my point.

--Dave
 
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