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Squeaky
January 7th, 2014, 07:46 PM
LAW OF CHRIST
John 14:6
6 Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
JOH 15-10 If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love, just as I have kept My Fathers commandments and abide in His love.
John 6:63
63 "It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life.
John 14:1
1 "Let not your heart be troubled; you believe in God, believe also in Me.
Luke 6:37-38
37 "Judge not, and you shall not be judged. Condemn not, and you shall not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven.
38 "Give, and it will be given to you: good measure, pressed down, shaken together, and running over will be put into your bosom. For with the same measure that you use, it will be measured back to you."
John 3:17-19
17 "For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.
18 "He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
19 "And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
John 10:7-8
7 Then Jesus said to them again, "Most assuredly, I say to you, I am the door of the sheep.
8 "All who ever came before Me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not hear them.
Heb 8:13
13 In that He says, "A new covenant," He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.
Heb 9:1
1 Then indeed, even the first covenant had ordinances of divine service and the earthly sanctuary.
Gal 6:2
2 Bear one another's burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ.
Eph 4:32
32 And be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, just as God in Christ forgave you.
Col 3:13
13 bearing with one another, and forgiving one another, if anyone has a complaint against another; even as Christ forgave you, so you also must do.
Matt 6:14-15
14 "For if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you.
15 "But if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.
1 Cor 6:6-8
6 But brother goes to law against brother, and that before unbelievers!
7 Now therefore, it is already an utter failure for you that you go to law against one another. Why do you not rather accept wrong? Why do you not rather let yourselves be cheated?
8 No, you yourselves do wrong and cheat, and you do these things to your brethren!
1 Pet 2:19-21
19 For this is commendable, if because of conscience toward God one endures grief, suffering wrongfully.
20 For what credit is it if, when you are beaten for your faults, you take it patiently? But when you do good and suffer, if you take it patiently, this is commendable before God.
21 For to this you were called, because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps:
James 2:12
12 So speak and so do as those who will be judged by the law of liberty.
Rom 2:12-13
12 For as many as have sinned without law will also perish without law, and as many as have sinned in the law will be judged by the law
13 (for not the hearers of the law are just in the sight of God, but the doers of the law will be justified;
John 15:14
14 "You are My friends if you do whatever I command you.
Matt 5:19
19 "Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Matt 10:16-19
16 "Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves. Therefore be wise as serpents and harmless as doves.
17 "But beware of men, for they will deliver you up to councils and scourge you in their synagogues.
18 "You will be brought before governors and kings for My sake, as a testimony to them and to the Gentiles.
19 "But when they deliver you up, do not worry about how or what you should speak. For it will be given to you in that hour what you should speak;
John 14:15-17
15 "If you love Me, keep My commandments.
16 "And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you forever--
17 "the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you.
John 14:23-25
23 Jesus answered and said to him, "If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him.
24 "He who does not love Me does not keep My words; and the word which you hear is not Mine but the Father's who sent Me.
25 "These things I have spoken to you while being present with you.
John 15:10-12
10 "If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love, just as I have kept My Father's commandments and abide in His love.
11 "These things I have spoken to you, that My joy may remain in you, and that your joy may be full.
12 "This is My commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you.
1 Cor 4:6
6 Now these things, brethren, I have figuratively transferred to myself and Apollos for your sakes, that you may learn in us not to think beyond what is written, that none of you may be puffed up on behalf of one against the other.
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1 Cor 9:21
21 to those who are without law, as without law (not being without law toward God, but under law toward Christ), that I might win those who are without law;
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Matt 5:19-20
19 "Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
20 "For I say to you, that unless your righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven.
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Squeaky
January 7th, 2014, 07:47 PM
LAW OF FAITH

Rom 3:27-28
27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? Of works? No, but by the law of faith.
28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith apart from the deeds of the law.
Col 1:27-29
27 To them God willed to make known what are the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles: which is Christ in you, the hope of glory.
28 Him we preach, warning every man and teaching every man in all wisdom, that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus.
29 To this end I also labor, striving according to His working which works in me mightily.
Matt 11:25
25 At that time Jesus answered and said, "I thank You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have hidden these things from the wise and prudent and have revealed them to babes.
1 Cor 1:19-20
19 For it is written: "I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent."
20 Where is the wise? Where is the scribe? Where is the disputer of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?
1 Cor 1:21
21 For since, in the wisdom of God, the world through wisdom did not know God, it pleased God through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe.
Matt 13:9-14
9 "He who has ears to hear, let him hear!"
10 And the disciples came and said to Him, "Why do You speak to them in parables?"
11 He answered and said to them, "Because it has been given to you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given.
12 "For whoever has, to him more will be given, and he will have abundance; but whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken away from him.
13 "Therefore I speak to them in parables, because seeing they do not see, and hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand.
14 "And in them the prophecy of Isaiah is fulfilled, which says: 'Hearing you will hear and shall not understand, and seeing you will see and not perceive;
John 9:40-41
40 Then some of the Pharisees who were with Him heard these words, and said to Him, "Are we blind also?"
41 Jesus said to them, "If you were blind, you would have no sin; but now you say, 'We see.' Therefore your sin remains.
John 9:39
39 And Jesus said, "For judgment I have come into this world, that those who do not see may see, and that those who see may be made blind."
Gal 3:11-12
11 But that no one is justified by the law in the sight of God is evident, for "the just shall live by faith."
12 Yet the law is not of faith, but "the man who does them shall live by them."
Acts 13:38-39
38 "Therefore let it be known to you, brethren, that through this Man is preached to you the forgiveness of sins;
39 "and by Him everyone who believes is justified from all things from which you could not be justified by the law of Moses.
Mark 2:17
17 When Jesus heard it, He said to them, "Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick. I did not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance."
Gal 2:19-21
19 "For I through the law died to the law that I might live to God.
20 "I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me.
21 "I do not set aside the grace of God; for if righteousness comes through the law, then Christ died in vain."
Gal 3:1-5
1 O foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you that you should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ was clearly portrayed among you as crucified?
2 This only I want to learn from you: Did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
3 Are you so foolish? Having begun in the Spirit, are you now being made perfect by the flesh?
4 Have you suffered so many things in vain-- if indeed it was in vain?
5 Therefore He who supplies the Spirit to you and works miracles among you, does He do it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?--
Gal 3:12
12 Yet the law is not of faith, but "the man who does them shall live by them."
Rom 3:27-28
27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? Of works? No, but by the law of faith.
28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith apart from the deeds of the law.
Heb 8:13
13 In that He says, "A new covenant," He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.
Col 1:24-26
24 I now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up in my flesh what is lacking in the afflictions of Christ, for the sake of His body, which is the church,
25 of which I became a minister according to the stewardship from God which was given to me for you, to fulfill the word of God,
26 the mystery which has been hidden from ages and from generations, but now has been revealed to His saints.
2 Cor 5:5
5 Now He who has prepared us for this very thing is God, who also has given us the Spirit as a guarantee.
John 14:26
26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.
James 2:26
26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
James 2:24
24 You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only.
2 Cor 3:4-6
4 And we have such trust through Christ toward God.
5 Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think of anything as being from ourselves, but our sufficiency is from God,
6 who also made us sufficient as ministers of the new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.
Matt 10:16-19
16 "Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves. Therefore be wise as serpents and harmless as doves.
17 "But beware of men, for they will deliver you up to councils and scourge you in their synagogues.
18 "You will be brought before governors and kings for My sake, as a testimony to them and to the Gentiles.
19 "But when they deliver you up, do not worry about how or what you should speak. For it will be given to you in that hour what you should speak;
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xxx Faith is spiritual strength that is given to us by God for believing His Word. We use that spiritual strength to obey what the Word tells us to. And when we reject our feelings and emotions(unclean spirits) we will suffer wrongfully. And we will need spiritual strength to resist the flesh. And when our spiritual strength falls short we turn to God for His strength. The law of faith is we know that when He see's us suffering in obedience He will step in and hold us up.

Squeaky
January 7th, 2014, 07:48 PM
LAW OF THE SPIRIT
Gal 5:18
18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.
John 14:26
26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.
Gal 3:24-25
24 Therefore the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor.
Gal 2:21
21 "I do not set aside the grace of God; for if righteousness comes through the law, then Christ died in vain."
Gal 2:18-19
18 "For if I build again those things which I destroyed, I make myself a transgressor.
19 "For I through the law died to the law that I might live to God.
Gal 2:16-17
16 "knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law but by faith in Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, that we might be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the law; for by the works of the law no flesh shall be justified.
17 "But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, is Christ therefore a minister of sin? Certainly not!
Mark 1:15
15 and saying, "The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand. Repent, and believe in the gospel."
I Jn 1:9
9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
John 5:26-27
26 "For as the Father has life in Himself, so He has granted the Son to have life in Himself,
27 "and has given Him authority to execute judgment also, because He is the Son of Man.
John 5:22
22 "For the Father judges no one, but has committed all judgment to the Son,
John 5:23
23 "that all should honor the Son just as they honor the Father. He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him.
II Jn 1:9-11
9 Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son.
10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him into your house nor greet him;
11 for he who greets him shares in his evil deeds.
Heb 7:19-20
19 for the law made nothing perfect; on the other hand, there is the bringing in of a better hope, through which we draw near to God.
20 And inasmuch as He was not made priest without an oath
Heb 7:22
22 by so much more Jesus has become a surety of a better covenant.
Heb 7:24-25
24 But He, because He continues forever, has an unchangeable priesthood.
25 Therefore He is also able to save to the uttermost those who come to God through Him, since He always lives to make intercession for them.
Heb 8:7
7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then no place would have been sought for a second.
Rom 8:3
3 For what the law could not do in that it was weak through the flesh, God did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, on account of sin: He condemned sin in the flesh,
Rom 8:4
4 that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.
Rom 8:8-9
8 So then, those who are in the flesh cannot please God.
9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His.
Rom 8:7
7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can be.
Rom 8:1-2
1 There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death.
Gal 5:16-18
16 I say then: Walk in the Spirit, and you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh.
17 For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are contrary to one another, so that you do not do the things that you wish.
18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.
Gal 5:24
24 And those who are Christ's have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.
Gal 5:13
13 For you, brethren, have been called to liberty; only do not use liberty as an opportunity for the flesh, but through love serve one another.
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The Law of the Holy Spirit,the Holy Spirit only quotes verses, and if you received a verse in your mind and your obeying it, there is no law that can condemn you. Now the flesh(emotions & desires) lusts against the Spirit and the Spirit is against the flesh(emotions & feelings). First you have to read the verses and put them in your mind as a belief, I believe-read a verse. I believe-read a verse. Then the Holy Spirit has a knowledge to guide you with. Then when you walk after them verses your walking after the Holy Spirit. There are a few veriables. The verse has to glorify Jesus and follow the example that Jesus has already set. All the veriables are in the stories that are written in the new testament.

Squeaky
January 7th, 2014, 07:49 PM
LAW OF SIN (EMOTIONS)
Rom 7:23
23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.
Rom 7:21
21 I find then a law, that evil is present with me, the one who wills to do good.
Rom 7:18-21
18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh) nothing good dwells; for to will is present with me, but how to perform what is good I do not find.
19 For the good that I will to do, I do not do; but the evil I will not to do, that I practice.
20 Now if I do what I will not to do, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me.
21 I find then a law, that evil is present with me, the one who wills to do good.
Heb 12:1-2
1 Therefore we also, since we are surrounded by so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which so easily ensnares us, and let us run with endurance the race that is set before us,
2 looking unto Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith, who for the joy that was set before Him endured the cross, despising the shame, and has sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.
Gal 5:17
17 For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are contrary to one another, so that you do not do the things that you wish.
Gal 5:19-21
19 Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness,
20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies,
21 envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.
1 Cor 6:9-10
9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites,
10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.
Gal 5:24
24 And those who are Christ's have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.
Rom 8:18
18 For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.
Heb 5:8-10
8 though He was a Son, yet He learned obedience by the things which He suffered.
9 And having been perfected, He became the author of eternal salvation to all who obey Him,
10 called by God as High Priest "according to the order of Melchizedek,"
Phil 3:12
12 Not that I have already attained, or am already perfected; but I press on, that I may lay hold of that for which Christ Jesus has also laid hold of me.
2 Cor 10:4-5
4 For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds,
5 casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ,
Rom 8:5-8
5 For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit.
6 For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can be.
8 So then, those who are in the flesh cannot please God.
Rom 8:9
9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His.
John 14:26
26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.
Eph 5:26
26 that He might sanctify and cleanse her with the washing of water by the word,
Rom 8:1-2
1 There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death.
2 Cor 5:5-9
5 Now He who has prepared us for this very thing is God, who also has given us the Spirit as a guarantee.
6 So we are always confident, knowing that while we are at home in the body we are absent from the Lord.
7 For we walk by faith, not by sight.
8 We are confident, yes, well pleased rather to be absent from the body and to be present with the Lord.
9 Therefore we make it our aim, whether present or absent, to be well pleasing to Him.
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xxxLaw of sin. Sin is anything that doesnt please God in our lives. And to many think they can control their sins, and enjoy them. Sin was created to pull us away from God. Sin will never lead us to God. Sin has to lead us away from God and His mercy and forgiveness. Sin has to destroy, it was created to destroy. If you try to justify sin your lost in deception.

Squeaky
January 7th, 2014, 07:50 PM
THE LAW OF LOVE
1 Tim 1:5-7
5 Now the purpose of the commandment is love from a pure heart, from a good conscience, and from sincere faith,
6 from which some, having strayed, have turned aside to idle talk,
7 desiring to be teachers of the law, understanding neither what they say nor the things which they affirm.
2 Tim 2:15-16
15 Be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
16 But shun profane and idle babblings, for they will increase to more ungodliness.
Eph 1:4-5
4 just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love,
5 having predestined us to adoption as sons by Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will,
Gal 3:24-25
24 Therefore the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor.
Gal 2:21
21 "I do not set aside the grace of God; for if righteousness comes through the law, then Christ died in vain."
John 1:17-18
17 For the law was given through Moses, but grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.
18 No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him.
Luke 10:22
22 "All things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one knows who the Son is except the Father, and who the Father is except the Son, and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal Him."
John 8:29
29 "And He who sent Me is with Me. The Father has not left Me alone, for I always do those things that please Him."
Heb 11:6
6 But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him.
Heb 8:7
7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then no place would have been sought for a second.
Heb 8:13
13 In that He says, "A new covenant," He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.
Gal 3:24-25
24 Therefore the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor.
Gal 2:21
21 "I do not set aside the grace of God; for if righteousness comes through the law, then Christ died in vain."
Rom 13:8
8 Owe no one anything except to love one another, for he who loves another has fulfilled the law.
1 Pet 2:19
19 For this is commendable, if because of conscience toward God one endures grief, suffering wrongfully.
1 Pet 2:21
21 For to this you were called, because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps:
Gal 5:4
4 You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace.
Gal 5:1-3
1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free, and do not be entangled again with a yoke of bondage.
2 Indeed I, Paul, say to you that if you become circumcised, Christ will profit you nothing.
3 And I testify again to every man who becomes circumcised that he is a debtor to keep the whole law.
Gal 6:2
2 Bear one another's burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ.
Matt 12:18-20
18 "Behold, My Servant whom I have chosen, my Beloved in whom My soul is well pleased! I will put My Spirit upon Him, and He will declare justice to the Gentiles.
19 He will not quarrel nor cry out, nor will anyone hear His voice in the streets.
20 A bruised reed He will not break, and smoking flax He will not quench, till He sends forth justice to victory;
Rom 13:8
8 Owe no one anything except to love one another, for he who loves another has fulfilled the law.
Matt 6:14-15
14 "For if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you.
15 "But if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.
Matt 18:23-35
23 "Therefore the kingdom of heaven is like a certain king who wanted to settle accounts with his servants.
24 "And when he had begun to settle accounts, one was brought to him who owed him ten thousand talents.
25 "But as he was not able to pay, his master commanded that he be sold, with his wife and children and all that he had, and that payment be made.
26 "The servant therefore fell down before him, saying, 'Master, have patience with me, and I will pay you all.'
27 "Then the master of that servant was moved with compassion, released him, and forgave him the debt.
28 "But that servant went out and found one of his fellow servants who owed him a hundred denarii; and he laid hands on him and took him by the throat, saying, 'Pay me what you owe!'
29 "So his fellow servant fell down at his feet and begged him, saying, 'Have patience with me, and I will pay you all.'
30 "And he would not, but went and threw him into prison till he should pay the debt.
31 "So when his fellow servants saw what had been done, they were very grieved, and came and told their master all that had been done.
32 "Then his master, after he had called him, said to him, 'You wicked servant! I forgave you all that debt because you begged me.
33 'Should you not also have had compassion on your fellow servant, just as I had pity on you?'
34 "And his master was angry, and delivered him to the torturers until he should pay all that was due to him.
35 "So My heavenly Father also will do to you if each of you, from his heart, does not forgive his brother his trespasses."
Gal 5:22-23
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
23 gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law.
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xxx Love is to suffer wrongfully but do it willingly. Jesus set the example of suffering wrongfully on the cross. He didnt deserve it, He didnt want it, but He knew that it pleased God for Him to do it. Jesus didnt stand up for His rights, He didnt call for justice, He didnt defend Himself. He knew that it pleased God. And His reward was His resurrection. The law of love if you love others the same way, your reward will also be the same as Jesus.

Princely
January 7th, 2014, 08:10 PM
I am the resurrection and the life. Anyone who believes in me even though he died he will come to life and anyone who lives and believes in me will never die.

The man who believes in me will do the works I do.

The works I do in my Father's name bear witness for me.

Put faith in the works so you will see that the Lord is in me and I am in the Lord.

The Lord and I are One.

It is written in the prophets;

"The Lord guides the humble to justice and He teaches the meek His way."

Blessed are the meek they shall inherit the land.

I am meek.

Follow me.

intojoy
January 7th, 2014, 08:52 PM
Law of Liberty baby!


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Squeaky
January 7th, 2014, 10:42 PM
I am the resurrection and the life. Anyone who believes in me even though he died he will come to life and anyone who lives and believes in me will never die.

The man who believes in me will do the works I do.

The works I do in my Father's name bear witness for me.

Put faith in the works so you will see that the Lord is in me and I am in the Lord.

The Lord and I are One.

It is written in the prophets;

"The Lord guides the humble to justice and He teaches the meek His way."

Blessed are the meek they shall inherit the land.

I am meek.

Follow me.

I said
Like I told you in the other post if you take Jesus' words as your own, that is blasphemy. You are not the resurrection.

John 11:25
25 Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live.
(NKJ)

Squeaky
January 7th, 2014, 10:44 PM
Law of Liberty baby!


Posted from the TOL App!

I said
Ok
O.T.LAW & N.T.LIBERTY(LAW OF LIBERTY)
Acts 15:10
10 "Now therefore, why do you test God by putting a yoke on the neck of the disciples which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?
Gal 5:1-4
1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free, and do not be entangled again with a yoke of bondage.
2 Indeed I, Paul, say to you that if you become circumcised, Christ will profit you nothing.
3 And I testify again to every man who becomes circumcised that he is a debtor to keep the whole law.
4 You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace.
Rom 3:23-24
23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
24 being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus,
Rom 3:28
28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith apart from the deeds of the law.
Rom 5:1-2
1 Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ,
2 through whom also we have access by faith into this grace in which we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.
Rom 9:31-32
31 but Israel, pursuing the law of righteousness, has not attained to the law of righteousness.
32 Why? Because they did not seek it by faith, but as it were, by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumbling stone.
Gal 2:16
16 "knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law but by faith in Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, that we might be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the law; for by the works of the law no flesh shall be justified.
Gal 2:20-21
20 "I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me.
21 "I do not set aside the grace of God; for if righteousness comes through the law, then Christ died in vain."
Rom 8:1-2
1 There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death.
Gal 5:24-25
24 And those who are Christ's have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.
25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
John 13:17
17 "If you know these things, blessed are you if you do them.
Matt 13:14-17
14 "And in them the prophecy of Isaiah is fulfilled, which says: 'Hearing you will hear and shall not understand, and seeing you will see and not perceive;
15 For the hearts of this people have grown dull. Their ears are hard of hearing, and their eyes they have closed, lest they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, lest they should understand with their hearts and turn, so that I should heal them.'
16 "But blessed are your eyes for they see, and your ears for they hear;
17 "for assuredly, I say to you that many prophets and righteous men desired to see what you see, and did not see it, and to hear what you hear, and did not hear it.
II Jn 1:9
9 Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son.
(NKJ)

XXX Jesus brought us a new law the law of liberty. That is the grace of God.

James 1:25
25 But he who looks into the perfect law of liberty and continues in it, and is not a forgetful hearer but a doer of the work, this one will be blessed in what he does.
(NKJ)

James 2:12
12 So speak and so do as those who will be judged by the law of liberty.
(NKJ)

It takes a law to keep you out of heaven and it takes a law to get you into heaven.

Rom 2:12-13
12 For as many as have sinned without law will also perish without law, and as many as have sinned in the law will be judged by the law
13 (for not the hearers of the law are just in the sight of God, but the doers of the law will be justified;
(NKJ)

Jesus done away with the old testament law, not the idea of law.

Heb 7:12
12 For the priesthood being changed, of necessity there is also a change of the law.
(NKJ)

Princely
January 7th, 2014, 10:50 PM
I said
Like I told you in the other post if you take Jesus' words as your own, that is blasphemy. You are not the resurrection.

John 11:25
25 Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live.
(NKJ)

If you knew me you would know the Father also because I come from Him He sent me.

It is written in the prophets as the Lord said;

"Render true judgment and show kindness and compassion to one another."

Squeaky
January 8th, 2014, 04:22 AM
If you knew me you would know the Father also because I come from Him He sent me.

It is written in the prophets as the Lord said;

"Render true judgment and show kindness and compassion to one another."

I said
I do know you. Your a thief. Your stealing Jesus glory. God sent Jesus and Jesus sends us. Jesus was seeking the glory of the Father, we are seeking the glory of Jesus. Jesus gave all the glory to God for Gods Word. Your seeking your own glory.

John 7:18
18 "He who speaks from himself seeks his own glory; but He who seeks the glory of the One who sent Him is true, and no unrighteousness is in Him.
(NKJ)

Squeaky
August 22nd, 2014, 08:52 AM
It takes a law to get us into heaven and it takes a law to keep us out of heaven.

Squeaky
February 12th, 2015, 02:07 PM
There are many laws in the new testament

Squeaky
February 16th, 2015, 07:09 PM
Our grace was Jesus. God gave us the grace of His Son to die for us. And Jesus brought His laws with Him.

Squeaky
April 1st, 2015, 05:23 PM
bump

Squeaky
April 24th, 2015, 01:19 PM
bump

Totton Linnet
April 24th, 2015, 02:30 PM
There are many laws in the new testament

If you have kept all the laws you have printed on this thread I will eat my hat....if you have failed [and you have] then you have no hope.

Squeaky
April 24th, 2015, 02:58 PM
If you have kept all the laws you have printed on this thread I will eat my hat....if you have failed [and you have] then you have no hope.

I said
What flavor is your hat? By the way if I have how would I prove it? If I haven't how would you prove it?

Squeaky
April 24th, 2015, 05:12 PM
If you have kept all the laws you have printed on this thread I will eat my hat....if you have failed [and you have] then you have no hope.

I said
Do you understand the concept of repentance?

Squeaky
April 25th, 2015, 04:55 PM
well do you

wordsponge
April 26th, 2015, 03:39 AM
1 Tim.1
[5] Now the end of the commandment is:
charity out of a pure heart, and of a good conscience,
and of faith unfeigned.

Disrespect for the Apostles is killing you.

Squeaky
April 26th, 2015, 03:55 AM
1 Tim.1
[5] Now the end of the commandment is:
charity out of a pure heart, and of a good conscience,
and of faith unfeigned.

Disrespect for the Apostles is killing you.

I said
It takes a law to keep you out of heaven. And it also takes a law to get you into heaven.

1 Tim 1:1-8
1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ, by the commandment of God our Savior and the Lord Jesus Christ, our hope,
2 To Timothy, a true son in the faith: Grace, mercy, and peace from God our Father and Jesus Christ our Lord.
3 As I urged you when I went into Macedonia-- remain in Ephesus that you may charge some that they teach no other doctrine,
4 nor give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which cause disputes rather than godly edification which is in faith.
5 Now the purpose of the commandment is love from a pure heart, from a good conscience, and from sincere faith,
6 from which some, having strayed, have turned aside to idle talk,
7 desiring to be teachers of the law, understanding neither what they say nor the things which they affirm.
8 But we know that the law is good if one uses it lawfully,
(NKJ)

Rom 6:16-19
16 Do you not know that to whom you present yourselves slaves to obey, you are that one's slaves whom you obey, whether of sin leading to death, or of obedience leading to righteousness?
17 But God be thanked that though you were slaves of sin, yet you obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine to which you were delivered.
18 And having been set free from sin, you became slaves of righteousness.
19 I speak in human terms because of the weakness of your flesh. For just as you presented your members as slaves of uncleanness, and of lawlessness leading to more lawlessness, so now present your members as slaves of righteousness for holiness.
(NKJ)

1 Cor 9:20-27
20 and to the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might win Jews; to those who are under the law, as under the law, that I might win those who are under the law;
21 to those who are without law, as without law (not being without law toward God, but under law toward Christ), that I might win those who are without law;
22 to the weak I became as weak, that I might win the weak. I have become all things to all men, that I might by all means save some.
23 Now this I do for the gospel's sake, that I may be partaker of it with you.
24 Do you not know that those who run in a race all run, but one receives the prize? Run in such a way that you may obtain it.
25 And everyone who competes for the prize is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a perishable crown, but we for an imperishable crown.
26 Therefore I run thus: not with uncertainty. Thus I fight: not as one who beats the air.
27 But I discipline my body and bring it into subjection, lest, when I have preached to others, I myself should become disqualified.
(NKJ)

Gal 6:2
2 Bear one another's burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ.
(NKJ)

Rom 3:27
27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? Of works? No, but by the law of faith.
(NKJ)

Rom 2:12-13
12 For as many as have sinned without law will also perish without law, and as many as have sinned in the law will be judged by the law
13 (for not the hearers of the law are just in the sight of God, but the doers of the law will be justified;
(NKJ)

Squeaky
April 27th, 2015, 03:38 AM
The law of Christ is the grace from God.

wordsponge
April 27th, 2015, 04:09 AM
STOP circumventing Jesus and Baptism
if you want to progress.

Squeaky
April 27th, 2015, 08:00 AM
STOP circumventing Jesus and Baptism
if you want to progress.

I said
lol You will have to be more specific than that.

Squeaky
April 28th, 2015, 08:55 AM
STOP circumventing Jesus and Baptism
if you want to progress.

I said
Really I need more than that.

JonahofAkron
April 28th, 2015, 11:58 AM
You quote a lot of things and rip them from their context...too many to try to refute. An excellent example of this is your quoting of Matthew 5:19-20. Both of them seem like something that should strengthen your argument, but only prove that it is faulty; Matthew 5:17 specifically says that the Law and Prophets will not be overturned by any commands that Messiah give. As a matter of fact, He says His goal is to strengthen them and that's exactly what the rest of the 'Sermon on the Mount' is all about.

Squeaky
April 28th, 2015, 12:25 PM
You quote a lot of things and rip them from their context...too many to try to refute. An excellent example of this is your quoting of Matthew 5:19-20. Both of them seem like something that should strengthen your argument, but only prove that it is faulty; Matthew 5:17 specifically says that the Law and Prophets will not be overturned by any commands that Messiah give. As a matter of fact, He says His goal is to strengthen them and that's exactly what the rest of the 'Sermon on the Mount' is all about.

I said
Do you know what fulfilled means?

Matt 5:17-18
17 "Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill.
18 "For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled.
(NKJ)

JonahofAkron
April 28th, 2015, 12:51 PM
I said
Do you know what fulfilled means?

Matt 5:17-18
17 "Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill.
18 "For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled.
(NKJ)
Yes.

Pleroo

to make full, to fill up, i.e. to fill to the full
to cause to abound, to furnish or supply liberally
I abound, I am liberally supplied
to render full, i.e. to complete
to fill to the top: so that nothing shall be wanting to full measure, fill to the brim
to consummate: a number
to make complete in every particular, to render perfect
to carry through to the end, to accomplish, carry out, (some undertaking)
to carry into effect, bring to realisation, realise
of matters of duty: to perform, execute
of sayings, promises, prophecies, to bring to pass, ratify, accomplish
to fulfil, i.e. to cause God's will (as made known in the law) to be obeyed as it should be, and God's promises (given through the prophets) to receive fulfilment


The definition depends on the context. Since we know that 'fulfill' has to stand in contrast to 'destroy' as spoken in Matthew 5:17, it's safe to assume the definition probably relates to either 'accomplishing', as in doing; or 'filling', as in, giving clear meaning to. If Messiah came to us as a teacher and prophet, this would fit in nicely with either definition and does not necessitate the loss of the Torah as so many bible commentators claim.

Squeaky
April 28th, 2015, 01:59 PM
Now look at what all Jesus did say.

ABOUT THE OLD TESTAMENT
FROM THE NEW TESTAMENT
Heb 8:13
13 In that He says, "A new covenant," He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.
2 Cor 3:14-15
14 But their minds were blinded. For until this day the same veil remains unlifted in the reading of the Old Testament, because the veil is taken away in Christ.
15 But even to this day, when Moses is read, a veil lies on their heart.
Gal 2:21
21 "I do not set aside the grace of God; for if righteousness comes through the law, then Christ died in vain."
Gal 4:4-5
4 But when the fullness of the time had come, God sent forth His Son, born of a woman, born under the law,
5 to redeem those who were under the law, that we might receive the adoption as sons.
John 10:8-9
8 "All who ever came before Me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not hear them.
9 "I am the door. If anyone enters by Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture.
1 Cor 10:1-12
1 Moreover, brethren, I do not want you to be unaware that all our fathers were under the cloud, all passed through the sea,
2 all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea,
3 all ate the same spiritual food,
4 and all drank the same spiritual drink. For they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them, and that Rock was Christ.
5 But with most of them God was not well pleased, for their bodies were scattered in the wilderness.
6 Now these things became our examples, to the intent that we should not lust after evil things as they also lusted.
7 And do not become idolaters as were some of them. As it is written, "The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play."
8 Nor let us commit sexual immorality, as some of them did, and in one day twenty-three thousand fell;
9 nor let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed by serpents;
10 nor complain, as some of them also complained, and were destroyed by the destroyer.
11 Now all these things happened to them as examples, and they were written for our admonition, on whom the ends of the ages have come.
12 Therefore let him who thinks he stands take heed lest he fall.
Rom 13:8
8 Owe no one anything except to love one another, for he who loves another has fulfilled the law.
John 6:63
63 "It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life.
John 4:23-24
23 "But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for the Father is seeking such to worship Him.
24 "God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth."
John 17:17
17 "Sanctify them by Your truth. Your word is truth.
John 3:34
34 "For He whom God has sent speaks the words of God, for God does not give the Spirit by measure.
John 3:33
33 "He who has received His testimony has certified that God is true.
John 3:35-36
35 "The Father loves the Son, and has given all things into His hand.
36 "He who believes in the Son has everlasting life; and he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him."
Rom 8:1-2
1 There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death.
Rom 8:3-8
3 For what the law could not do in that it was weak through the flesh, God did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, on account of sin: He condemned sin in the flesh,
4 that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.
5 For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit.
6 For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can be.
8 So then, those who are in the flesh cannot please God.
John 14:26
26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.
Gal 2:19-21
19 "For I through the law died to the law that I might live to God.
20 "I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me.
21 "I do not set aside the grace of God; for if righteousness comes through the law, then Christ died in vain."
Gal 3:24-25
24 Therefore the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor.
Gal 5:1-5
1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free, and do not be entangled again with a yoke of bondage.
2 Indeed I, Paul, say to you that if you become circumcised, Christ will profit you nothing.
3 And I testify again to every man who becomes circumcised that he is a debtor to keep the whole law.
4 You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace.
5 For we through the Spirit eagerly wait for the hope of righteousness by faith.
Gal 4:21
21 Tell me, you who desire to be under the law, do you not hear the law?
Rom 7:4-6
4 Therefore, my brethren, you also have become dead to the law through the body of Christ, that you may be married to another-- to Him who was raised from the dead, that we should bear fruit to God.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the sinful passions which were aroused by the law were at work in our members to bear fruit to death.
6 But now we have been delivered from the law, having died to what we were held by, so that we should serve in the newness of the Spirit and not in the oldness of the letter.
Rom 13:10
10 Love does no harm to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.
1 Pet 2:19-21
19 For this is commendable, if because of conscience toward God one endures grief, suffering wrongfully.
20 For what credit is it if, when you are beaten for your faults, you take it patiently? But when you do good and suffer, if you take it patiently, this is commendable before God.
21 For to this you were called, because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps:
II Jn 1:9-11
9 Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son.
10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him into your house nor greet him;
11 for he who greets him shares in his evil deeds.
John 1:17
17 For the law was given through Moses, but grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.
(NKJ)
xxx Jesus wants everyone who is going to be a christian to understand that the new covenant(testament) is just that new. That you cant go back and keep any part of the old testament that Jesus hasnt brought over to the new testament. Jesus new what to bring over man doesnt. But the old testament has to be obsolete to you in order for you to get the fullness of the new testament. 11John 1-9 is very specific if you dont abide(live) in the new testament you dont have the real God. There IS a veil over the old testament that remains to THIS day.
If Jesus were in the old testament this verse could only be meant for God and the angels. But Jesus wasnt in the old testament.

John 10:8-9
8 "All who ever came before Me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not hear them.
9 "I am the door. If anyone enters by Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture.

xxx Jesus nailed the old testament to the cross. If you have nailed the old testament to your cross, you are in Christ.

Col 2:13-14
13 And you, being dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He has made alive together with Him, having forgiven you all trespasses,
14 having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.
(NKJ)

Acts 15:10
10 "Now therefore, why do you test God by putting a yoke on the neck of the disciples which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?
(NKJ)

Acts 15:24-29
24 Since we have heard that some who went out from us have troubled you with words, unsettling your souls, saying, 'You must be circumcised and keep the law'-- to whom we gave no such commandment--
25 it seemed good to us, being assembled with one accord, to send chosen men to you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul,
26 men who have risked their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.
27 We have therefore sent Judas and Silas, who will also report the same things by word of mouth.
28 For it seemed good to the Holy Spirit, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things:
29 that you abstain from things offered to idols, from blood, from things strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well. Farewell.
(NKJ)


Rom 2:1-29

1 Therefore you are inexcusable, O man, whoever you are who judge, for in whatever you judge another you condemn yourself; for you who judge practice the same things.
2 But we know that the judgment of God is according to truth against those who practice such things.
3 And do you think this, O man, you who judge those practicing such things, and doing the same, that you will escape the judgment of God?
4 Or do you despise the riches of His goodness, forbearance, and longsuffering, not knowing that the goodness of God leads you to repentance?
5 But in accordance with your hardness and your impenitent heart you are treasuring up for yourself wrath in the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God,
6 who "will render to each one according to his deeds":
7 eternal life to those who by patient continuance in doing good seek for glory, honor, and immortality;
8 but to those who are self-seeking and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness-- indignation and wrath,
9 tribulation and anguish, on every soul of man who does evil, of the Jew first and also of the Greek;
10 but glory, honor, and peace to everyone who works what is good, to the Jew first and also to the Greek.
11 For there is no partiality with God.
12 For as many as have sinned without law will also perish without law, and as many as have sinned in the law will be judged by the law
13 (for not the hearers of the law are just in the sight of God, but the doers of the law will be justified;
14 for when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do the things in the law, these, although not having the law, are a law to themselves,
15 who show the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and between themselves their thoughts accusing or else excusing them)
16 in the day when God will judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ, according to my gospel.
17 Indeed you are called a Jew, and rest on the law, and make your boast in God,
18 and know His will, and approve the things that are excellent, being instructed out of the law,
19 and are confident that you yourself are a guide to the blind, a light to those who are in darkness,
20 an instructor of the foolish, a teacher of babes, having the form of knowledge and truth in the law.
21 You, therefore, who teach another, do you not teach yourself? You who preach that a man should not steal, do you steal?
22 You who say, "Do not commit adultery," do you commit adultery? You who abhor idols, do you rob temples?
23 You who make your boast in the law, do you dishonor God through breaking the law?
24 For "The name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of you," as it is written.
25 For circumcision is indeed profitable if you keep the law; but if you are a breaker of the law, your circumcision has become uncircumcision.
26 Therefore, if an uncircumcised man keeps the righteous requirements of the law, will not his uncircumcision be counted as circumcision?
27 And will not the physically uncircumcised, if he fulfills the law, judge you who, even with your written code and circumcision, are a transgressor of the law?
28 For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh;
29 but he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the Spirit, not in the letter; whose praise is not from men but from God.
(NKJ)


Heb 8:7
7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then no place would have been sought for a second.
(NKJ)

Heb 10:1

1 For the law, having a shadow of the good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with these same sacrifices, which they offer continually year by year, make those who approach perfect.
(NKJ)


Col 2:11-14
11 In Him you were also circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, by putting off the body of the sins of the flesh, by the circumcision of Christ,
12 buried with Him in baptism, in which you also were raised with Him through faith in the working of God, who raised Him from the dead.
13 And you, being dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He has made alive together with Him, having forgiven you all trespasses,
14 having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.
(NKJ)


Heb 10:9
9 then He said, "Behold, I have come to do Your will, O God." He takes away the first that He may establish the second.
(NKJ)


Gal 5:1-4

1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free, and do not be entangled again with a yoke of bondage.
2 Indeed I, Paul, say to you that if you become circumcised, Christ will profit you nothing.
3 And I testify again to every man who becomes circumcised that he is a debtor to keep the whole law.
4 You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace.
(NKJ)

Squeaky
May 28th, 2015, 03:29 PM
bump

Squeaky
May 31st, 2015, 06:06 PM
How come no one recognizes the laws in the new testament?

Squeaky
June 7th, 2015, 09:05 PM
bump

meshak
June 7th, 2015, 09:24 PM
How come no one recognizes the laws in the new testament?

If they recognize they will have to change their way of living.

The world would not like His teachings, His laws, and neither most churchgoers.

aikido7
June 7th, 2015, 09:30 PM
I don't see any "laws" of the New Testament. I see only Jesus preaching the Kingdom of God in parables and commenting on life in the world using short, pithy sayings.

Jesus did not use propositional theology.

Laws are made by men and they all differ. There are many different theologies and traditions in the New Testament--and some of them contradict each other.

meshak
June 7th, 2015, 09:32 PM
I don't see any "laws" of the New Testament. I see only Jesus preaching the Kingdom of God in parables and commenting on life in the world using short, pithy sayings.

Jesus did not use propositional theology.

Laws are made by men and they all differ. There are many different theologies and traditions in the New Testament--and some of them contradict each other.

Jesus' teachings are His laws.

meshak
June 7th, 2015, 09:35 PM
And His teachings are not His suggestions. It is His commandments for His followers.

meshak
June 7th, 2015, 09:38 PM
Aikido,

Do you know that Jesus says "if you love Me, keep my commands"?

aikido7
June 7th, 2015, 10:04 PM
Jesus' teachings are His laws.Since he never actually said "these are my laws--follow them" I conclude that organizing his speech in categories of legal mandates is something men and women did after his death.

He taught in parables. They were not meant to be taken literally.

Jacob
June 7th, 2015, 10:06 PM
My understanding of the word law or laws is that it pertains to instruction.

It could also be said teaching or even direction. Though these three pertain to Torah.

Squeaky
June 8th, 2015, 06:50 AM
If they recognize they will have to change their way of living.

The world would not like His teachings, His laws, and neither most churchgoers.

I said
Your right.

meshak
June 8th, 2015, 06:53 AM
He taught in parables. They were not meant to be taken literally.

Did I say any different?

Squeaky
June 8th, 2015, 06:56 AM
I don't see any "laws" of the New Testament. I see only Jesus preaching the Kingdom of God in parables and commenting on life in the world using short, pithy sayings.

Jesus did not use propositional theology.

Laws are made by men and they all differ. There are many different theologies and traditions in the New Testament--and some of them contradict each other.

I said
Commandments are laws. Gods Word is law. The revelations at the top of this thread are different laws in the new testament.

Gal 6:2-3
2 Bear one another's burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ.
3 For if anyone thinks himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceives himself.
(NKJ)

John 14:15
15 "If you love Me, keep My commandments.
(NKJ)

John 15:10
10 "If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love, just as I have kept My Father's commandments and abide in His love.
(NKJ)

John 14:21
21 "He who has My commandments and keeps them, it is he who loves Me. And he who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and manifest Myself to him."
(NKJ)

Squeaky
June 15th, 2015, 05:48 PM
The old testament law is different than mans law. The new testament law is different than either of them. The old testament law is the sharia law. Man has adopted many of them laws, but there are many that are not from the sharia law. The old testament law and mans law focuses on what a person does. The new testament law is different because it focuses on why someone does it. The old testament law of mans law focuses on the outside of man. The new testament laws focus on the inside of man.

Jacob
June 15th, 2015, 05:50 PM
The old testament law is different than mans law. The new testament law is different than either of them. The old testament law is the sharia law. Man has adopted many of them laws, but there are many that are not from the sharia law. The old testament law and mans law focuses on what a person does. The new testament law is different because it focuses on why someone does it. The old testament law of mans law focuses on the outside of man. The new testament laws focus on the inside of man.You may have a misunderstanding (I speak of the entirety of your post, and the following).

old testament law is...

why do you say sharia law? What does the word sharia mean? Is it a Hebrew word?

I believe you are confused about this.

Squeaky
June 15th, 2015, 06:42 PM
You may have a misunderstanding (I speak of the entirety of your post, and the following).

old testament law is...

why do you say sharia law? What does the word sharia mean? Is it a Hebrew word?

I believe you are confused about this.

I said
Sharia is the first five books and the muslim use it. They call it the sharia law.

Jacob
June 15th, 2015, 06:43 PM
I said
Sharia is the first five books and the muslim use it. They call it the sharia law.Do you mean the Torah?

Squeaky
June 15th, 2015, 06:54 PM
Do you mean the Torah?

I said
The Jews call it the Torah. The muslims call it sharia.

Jacob
June 15th, 2015, 06:55 PM
I said
The Jews call it the Torah. The muslims call it sharia.I know the Jews call the first five books (of the TaNaKh, the Hebrew Bible) the Torah.

Squeaky
June 15th, 2015, 07:54 PM
I know the Jews call the first five books (of the TaNaKh, the Hebrew Bible) the Torah.

I said
And the muslim call it the sharia law.

Jacob
June 15th, 2015, 08:11 PM
I said
And the muslim call it the sharia law.I don't know that as a fact.

Do you remember you would only quote new testament verses and not old testament verses. Now you start with what I call the Torah and say it is what muslims call sharia or sharia law. I have nothing against any Muslim in regard to any law. But I do not follow sharia law.

If we have Biblical Law or the Torah (God's instruction, teaching, direction) found in the first five books of the Bible, which Christians call the Law or the Pentateuch and sometimes the Law of Moses, that is different. The Christian Bible follows after and includes the Hebrew Bible.

Do you mean when a Jew or a Christian talks about the Law, meaning God's Law, what does the Muslim have?

I simply don't understand why you brought up sharia law when we are talking about New Testament Laws. Bravo on wanting to read the first five books of the Bible.

Squeaky
June 16th, 2015, 04:53 AM
There are many different laws.

Heb 7:12-16
12 For the priesthood being changed, of necessity there is also a change of the law.

Jacob
June 16th, 2015, 11:38 AM
There are many different laws.

Heb 7:12-16
12 For the priesthood being changed, of necessity there is also a change of the law.What priesthood do you believe has been changed? What change of law is the verse talking about? What many different laws are you referring to?

Squeaky
June 16th, 2015, 12:09 PM
What priesthood do you believe has been changed? What change of law is the verse talking about? What many different laws are you referring to?

I said
The old testament priesthood and the old testament law. Has been changed. Now we have Jesus Christ priesthood and the new testament law.
Heb 7:10-12
10 for he was still in the loins of his father when Melchizedek met him.
11 Therefore, if perfection were through the Levitical priesthood (for under it the people received the law), what further need was there that another priest should rise according to the order of Melchizedek, and not be called according to the order of Aaron?
12 For the priesthood being changed, of necessity there is also a change of the law.
(NKJ)

Jacob
June 16th, 2015, 12:16 PM
I said
The old testament priesthood and the old testament law. Has been changed. Now we have Jesus Christ priesthood and the new testament law.
Heb 7:10-12
10 for he was still in the loins of his father when Melchizedek met him.
11 Therefore, if perfection were through the Levitical priesthood (for under it the people received the law), what further need was there that another priest should rise according to the order of Melchizedek, and not be called according to the order of Aaron?
12 For the priesthood being changed, of necessity there is also a change of the law.
(NKJ)Do you know about the old covenant and the new covenant?

There was law associated with the old covenant. What is associated with the new covenant?

Is it true that old covenant or old testament law still has a place, such as in evangelism (sharing the gospel)? For a person knows they have sinned and are guilty before God by the Law. Then it makes sense who Jesus is and what He has done as Savior.

Squeaky
June 16th, 2015, 03:43 PM
Do you know about the old covenant and the new covenant?

There was law associated with the old covenant. What is associated with the new covenant?

Is it true that old covenant or old testament law still has a place, such as in evangelism (sharing the gospel)? For a person knows they have sinned and are guilty before God by the Law. Then it makes sense who Jesus is and what He has done as Savior.

I said
lol I don't know how you come up with some of your logic. But the old testament(covenant) is the law of sin and death.
The new testament(covenant) is the law of Christ. Everyone that isn't a born again Christian will be judged by the law of sin and death. But born again Christians will be judged by the law of Christ.

Jacob
June 16th, 2015, 03:49 PM
I said
lol I don't know how you come up with some of your logic. But the old testament(covenant) is the law of sin and death.
The new testament(covenant) is the law of Christ. Everyone that isn't a born again Christian will be judged by the law of sin and death. But born again Christians will be judged by the law of Christ.
I believe the law of sin and of death predates the old covenant law. That is, I do not believe it to be the Law of Moses. Sin and death were in the world since Adam and Eve, the first humans.

The old covenant is not the old testament scriptures.

Squeaky
June 16th, 2015, 06:09 PM
I believe the law of sin and of death predates the old covenant law. That is, I do not believe it to be the Law of Moses. Sin and death were in the world since Adam and Eve, the first humans.

The old covenant is not the old testament scriptures.

I said
lol I have showed you this before. Same thing. Now if your going to start making up your own definitions so that you might win an argument you might qas well give up the bible. Unless you have received it in the revelations of Jesus Christ. which I haven't see yet in you.

1242 diatheke (dee-ath-ay'-kay);

from 1303; properly, a disposition, i.e. (specially) a contract (especially a devisory will):

KJV-- covenant, testament.

Jacob
June 16th, 2015, 06:10 PM
I said
lol I have showed you this before. Same thing. Now if your going to start making up your own definitions so that you might win an argument you might qas well give up the bible. Unless you have received it in the revelations of Jesus Christ. which I haven't see yet in you.

1242 diatheke (dee-ath-ay'-kay);

from 1303; properly, a disposition, i.e. (specially) a contract (especially a devisory will):

KJV-- covenant, testament.The Ten Commandments were written by God on tablets of stone.

Squeaky
June 16th, 2015, 07:08 PM
The Ten Commandments were written by God on tablets of stone.

I said
So? The 10 commandments are a condinced version of all the other laws in the old testament. And with every law there is a contract. Obey the law and you won't suffer the punishment for not obeying.
A contract is a covenant, a covenant is a testament.

Jacob
June 16th, 2015, 09:32 PM
I said
So? The 10 commandments are a condinced version of all the other laws in the old testament. And with every law there is a contract. Obey the law and you won't suffer the punishment for not obeying.
A contract is a covenant, a covenant is a testament.
God gave Moses the Ten Commandments and Moses wrote down the other things God had for the nation of Israel to obey.

aikido7
June 17th, 2015, 01:42 AM
There are all sorts of laws that have been picked out from the New Testament by believers--both in the pews and from the pulpit.

The Bible contains actual, remembered history, oral traditions passed down from human memory, legends, myths, mythology and theology.

It's a complex, rich mixture of humanity and the divine.

Squeaky
June 17th, 2015, 08:57 AM
God gave Moses the Ten Commandments and Moses wrote down the other things God had for the nation of Israel to obey.

I said
All the same law.

Squeaky
June 17th, 2015, 09:00 AM
There are all sorts of laws that have been picked out from the New Testament by believers--both in the pews and from the pulpit.

The Bible contains actual, remembered history, oral traditions passed down from human memory, legends, myths, mythology and theology.

It's a complex, rich mixture of humanity and the divine.

I said
Orthodox is gone.

Mark 7:6-9
6 He answered and said to them, "Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written: 'This people honors Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me.
7 And in vain they worship Me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.'
8 "For laying aside the commandment of God, you hold the tradition of men-- the washing of pitchers and cups, and many other such things you do."
9 And He said to them, "All too well you reject the commandment of God, that you may keep your tradition.
(NKJ)

Jacob
June 17th, 2015, 10:28 AM
I said
All the same law.The Law was given by God through the prophet Moses. God wrote the Ten Commandments on tablets of stone and Moses wrote the rest at God's instruction. There is also the first five books of the Bible which have been attributed to Moses.

Robert Pate
June 17th, 2015, 11:02 AM
Christians are not under any kind of laws or rules.

We are totally free "In Christ".

Jesus is the end of the law for righteousness, Romans 10:4.

To be under the law is to be judged by the law and condemned.

Jacob
June 17th, 2015, 11:04 AM
Christians are not under any kind of laws or rules.

We are totally free "In Christ".

Jesus is the end of the law for righteousness, Romans 10:4.

To be under the law is to be judged by the law and condemned.What is the change in law and what is the law of Christ? Christians are not under the Law. But this does not mean they do not observe the Law. It also doesn't mean they are transgressors of the law. But do they keep it and do they keep any of God's commands?

Robert Pate
June 17th, 2015, 11:12 AM
What is the change in law and what is the law of Christ? Christians are not under the Law. But this does not mean they do not observe the Law. It also doesn't mean they are transgressors of the law. But do they keep it and do they keep any of God's commands?


There is only one law and that is the law of Moses. It covers every facet of your life.

"The just shall live by faith" Romans 1:17 and not by rules laws or religion.

All men are sinners because all men transgress God's law.

The law is also spiritual. It searches the desires and the intent of the heart, Hebrews 4:12.

Jacob
June 17th, 2015, 11:19 AM
There is only one law and that is the law of Moses. It covers every facet of your life.

"The just shall live by faith" Romans 1:17 and not by rules laws or religion.

All men are sinners because all men transgress God's law.

The law is also spiritual. It searches the desires and the intent of the heart, Hebrews 4:12.
I know all have sinned and that the just live by faith. I believe it is important to be obedient to God's commands.

Squeaky
June 17th, 2015, 01:32 PM
The Law was given by God through the prophet Moses. God wrote the Ten Commandments on tablets of stone and Moses wrote the rest at God's instruction. There is also the first five books of the Bible which have been attributed to Moses.

I said
You start out of a subject then you wonder. The questions was is testament and covenant the same. Yes

Jacob
June 17th, 2015, 01:32 PM
I said
You start out of a subject then you wonder. The questions was is testament and covenant the same. YesThe new covenant is spoken of in the new testament writings.

Squeaky
June 17th, 2015, 01:35 PM
Christians are not under any kind of laws or rules.

We are totally free "In Christ".

Jesus is the end of the law for righteousness, Romans 10:4.

To be under the law is to be judged by the law and condemned.

I said
Your wrong. The new testament is the law of Christ. And just like the old testament there are many commandments in the new testament.

John 15:10
10 "If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love, just as I have kept My Father's commandments and abide in His love.
(NKJ)

John 14:21
21 "He who has My commandments and keeps them, it is he who loves Me. And he who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and manifest Myself to him."
(NKJ)

John 14:15
15 "If you love Me, keep My commandments.
(NKJ)

Gal 6:2-3
2 Bear one another's burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ.
3 For if anyone thinks himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceives himself.
(NKJ)

aikido7
June 17th, 2015, 02:16 PM
I said
Orthodox is gone.

Mark 7:6-9
6 He answered and said to them, "Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written: 'This people honors Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me.
7 And in vain they worship Me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.'
8 "For laying aside the commandment of God, you hold the tradition of men-- the washing of pitchers and cups, and many other such things you do."
9 And He said to them, "All too well you reject the commandment of God, that you may keep your tradition.
(NKJ)Sometimes I am just too dense to grasp new information.

Would you be willing to reply and help me understand how you are using the word "Orthodox" and how it applies to my sense of the Bible as diverse?

Thanks in advance!

Squeaky
August 10th, 2015, 06:56 PM
bump