ECT Dispensation of Grace
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turbosixx
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I'm confused. You said:
If Paul was first to be saved by grace, why was he baptized?
Acts 9:15-16 KJV -
Saul was first called Paul in Acts 13
Acts 13:2-3 KJV - Acts 13:9 KJV - Acts 13:42 KJV
Acts 13:46 KJV - Acts 13:47 KJV - Acts 13:48 KJV
He was baptized by those of the twelve who were taught under the great commission rather than under the dispensation of grace of the revelation of Jesus Christ.
turbosixx
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But Paul baptized believers himself, why?
musterion
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Names. Who did he say he baptized?
turbosixx
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I thought you had me on ignore.
kérux: a herald
Original Word: κῆρυξ, υκος, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: kérux
Phonetic Spelling: (kay'-roox)
Short Definition: a herald, preacher
Definition: a herald, preacher, proclaimer.
Is this the word?
Tradition and custom since John the Baptist. Most every Christian was baptized then, like today. That should not be a stumbling stone for you.
He doesn't even remember some of the names.
turbosixx
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Acts 18:8 Crispus, the leader of the synagogue, believed in the Lord with all his household, and many of the Corinthians when they heard were believing and being baptized.
This was on his second missionary trip.
turbosixx
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If I understand MAD correctly, which I'm trying, the claim is no water baptism in the D of G.
Paul was saved before he was baptized I think. Is this thread about water baptism or the beginning of the dispensation given to Paul from Christ ?
musterion
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Crispus, Gaius and the household of Stephanus. He couldn't remember if there were others. But if water baptism was/is required for salvation, why would Paul thank God he baptized only so few? And why follow up his recounting of it by saying he wasn't sent to baptize in the first place?
turbosixx
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It’s about the dispensation of grace but a claim was made that Paul was the first saved by grace. I question that because he was saved the same way as those on Pentecost by being baptized in the name of Jesus.
I like to look at the evidence when a claim is made.
In his early ministry he did. However in the later years he came to say I did not come to baptize but to preach the Gospel. See the following article. It may clarify some issues for you.
http://graceambassadors.com/tradition/baptism/why-did-paul-baptize
Interplanner
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NO NO NO. You are completely missing the meaning of NT theology if you think it comes down to a 'practice' like baptism!!!
Look at the throw away line in 1 Cor 15: "I don't know if I baptized any others." don't you get it? it doesn't matter and it's OK that it doesn't matter.
1 Corinthians 1:14-15 KJV 1 Corinthians 1:16-17 KJV
see post 19