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BoyStan
November 11th, 2018, 01:54 PM
Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ and love for one another and for all Christians identifies authentic Christians(Col 1:4).
The love that is the fruit of the Spirit(Col 1:8).
This love for one another is organically related to the hope of heaven(Col 1:5).
Such love, a growing reality now, belongs to the glory that will be heaven(Col 1:5).
The message of faith,love and hope graciously gifted to us by the Father through Jesus Christ is the authentic gospel message(Col 1:2,6).
This gospel message is the subject taught by the faithful minister of Christ(Col 1:7).
Hearing this gospel message of faith,love and hope is blessed by God the Father(Col 1:2,6).

Preach the gospel of hope, faith and love to the world.
Begin with the hope that held out in the gospel(Col1:23).

Follow the attractive hope held out in the gospel with faith then love!

The popular presentation of the gospel today begins with 'God loves you' then 'Jesus died for your sins' and then 'Put your faith in Jesus'.

Begin with the hope (Col1:23)!
Then faith in the Lord Jesus Christ.
Those who desire the hope and believe in Christ (Rom10:8-10) will know that God loves them.

Until anyone truly believes in Christ(Rom10:8-10) no-one knows if God loves them.
To say 'God loves you' before authentic conversion to faith in the Lord Jesus Christ is misleading and maybe lie.

beloved57
November 12th, 2018, 02:46 AM
boystan


Hearing this gospel message of faith,love and hope is blessed by God the Father(Col 1:2 (https://biblia.com/bible/nkjv/Col%201.2),6 (https://biblia.com/bible/nkjv/Col%201.6)).

What kind of Gospel message is this ?

BoyStan
November 12th, 2018, 07:07 AM
boystan



What kind of Gospel message is this ?

The good news of faith in the Lord Jesus Christ, love for the saints and the hope of glory.
Faith,hope and love are what the good news is all about.

What gospel do you believe?

beloved57
November 12th, 2018, 07:23 AM
boystan


The good news of faith in the Lord Jesus Christ

Ok elaborate with me on what you mean by faith in the Lord Jesus Christ !

Exactly who is he, what did He do and accomplish, and for exactly who did he do it for ?

BoyStan
November 12th, 2018, 07:50 AM
boystan



Ok elaborate with me on what you mean by faith in the Lord Jesus Christ !

Exactly who is he, what did He do and accomplish, and for exactly who did he do it for ?

Jesus is Lord! He is God the Son (Col1:15-21)

Jesus is the Saviour of his people(Mt1:21).

His people are those given to him by the Father(Jn17:24,6:37-40).

Jesus mission was to do his Father's will.

So, faith in the Lord Jesus Christ means faith in his person and work(Rom10:8-10; 4:24-25).

beloved57
November 12th, 2018, 08:03 AM
boystan


So, faith in the Lord Jesus Christ means faith in his person and work(Rom10:8-10 (https://biblia.com/bible/nkjv/Rom10.8-10); 4:24-25 (https://biblia.com/bible/nkjv/Rom%204.24-25)).

Ok. Are those He died for saved/justified before their Faith in Him ?

BoyStan
November 12th, 2018, 08:10 AM
boystan



Ok. Are those He died for saved/justified before their Faith in Him ?

No comment.
You are trying to get me into a corner.

beloved57
November 12th, 2018, 08:11 AM
No comment.
You are trying to get me into a corner.

Hm, ok strange comment

bling
November 12th, 2018, 12:10 PM
God Loved us while we were sinners, so that would include everyone.
God's Love is unconditional and not dependent on our believing first.
Godly type Love is forgiving, charity, grace, and mercy, but it is a transaction meaning the receiver has to accept the gift as charity. If the Love is not accepted you do not have God's Love given to you, but it is not because God does not Love you.

BoyStan
November 12th, 2018, 04:43 PM
God Loved us while we were sinners, so that would include everyone.
God's Love is unconditional and not dependent on our believing first.
Godly type Love is forgiving, charity, grace, and mercy, but it is a transaction meaning the receiver has to accept the gift as charity. If the Love is not accepted you do not have God's Love given to you, but it is not because God does not Love you.

God is sovereign, just, holy, righteous. God's love cannot contradict these attributes of God.
If God loves as you say then he would be in contradiction with himself.
Your idea of God's love is impossible!

_000_
November 13th, 2018, 06:58 PM
THE FRUIT OF THE RIGHT SPIRIT

Proverbs
Chapter 6

16 These six things doth the LORD hate:
yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
17 A proud look, a lying tongue,
and hands that shed innocent blood,
18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations,
feet that be swift in running to mischief,
19 A false witness that speaketh lies,
and he that soweth discord among brethren.

Isaiah 1:14
Your new moons and your appointed feasts my soul hateth:
they are a trouble unto me; I am weary to bear them.

Zechariah 8:17
And let none of you imagine evil
in your hearts against his neighbour;
and love no false oath: for all these are things
that I hate, saith the LORD.

Malachi 1:3
And I hated Esau,
and laid his mountains and his heritage
waste for the dragons of the wilderness.

Luke
Chapter 14
Verse 26

If any man come to me,
and hate not his father,
and mother,
and wife,
and children,
and brethren,
and sisters,
yea, and his own life also,
he cannot be my disciple.

THE FRUIT OF THE SPIRIT

IS ALSO

HATE

True or false?