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Squeaky
July 13th, 2017, 07:02 AM
Jews Dont Keep The Law

Matt 3:15
15 But Jesus answered and said to him, "Permit it to be so now, for thus it is fitting for us to fulfill all righteousness." Then he allowed Him.
Luke 11:42
42 "But woe to you Pharisees! For you tithe mint and rue and all manner of herbs, and pass by justice and the love of God. These you ought to have done, without leaving the others undone.
Rom 2:16-29
16 in the day when God will judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ, according to my gospel.
17 Indeed you are called a Jew, and rest on the law, and make your boast in God,
18 and know His will, and approve the things that are excellent, being instructed out of the law,
19 and are confident that you yourself are a guide to the blind, a light to those who are in darkness,
20 an instructor of the foolish, a teacher of babes, having the form of knowledge and truth in the law.
21 You, therefore, who teach another, do you not teach yourself? You who preach that a man should not steal, do you steal?
22 You who say, "Do not commit adultery," do you commit adultery? You who abhor idols, do you rob temples?
23 You who make your boast in the law, do you dishonor God through breaking the law?
24 For "The name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of you," as it is written.
25 For circumcision is indeed profitable if you keep the law; but if you are a breaker of the law, your circumcision has become uncircumcision.
26 Therefore, if an uncircumcised man keeps the righteous requirements of the law, will not his uncircumcision be counted as circumcision?
27 And will not the physically uncircumcised, if he fulfills the law, judge you who, even with your written code and circumcision, are a transgressor of the law?
28 For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh;
29 but he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the Spirit, not in the letter; whose praise is not from men but from God.
Acts 15:5-11
5 But some of the sect of the Pharisees who believed rose up, saying, "It is necessary to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses."
6 Now the apostles and elders came together to consider this matter.
7 And when there had been much dispute, Peter rose up and said to them: "Men and brethren, you know that a good while ago God chose among us, that by my mouth the Gentiles should hear the word of the gospel and believe.
8 "So God, who knows the heart, acknowledged them by giving them the Holy Spirit, just as He did to us,
9 "and made no distinction between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.
10 "Now therefore, why do you test God by putting a yoke on the neck of the disciples which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?
11 "But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved in the same manner as they."
Acts 15:24
24 Since we have heard that some who went out from us have troubled you with words, unsettling your souls, saying, 'You must be circumcised and keep the law'-- to whom we gave no such commandment--
Gal 6:13-16
13 For not even those who are circumcised keep the law, but they desire to have you circumcised that they may boast in your flesh.
14 But God forbid that I should boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world.
15 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision avails anything, but a new creation.
16 And as many as walk according to this rule, peace and mercy be upon them, and upon the Israel of God.
(NKJ)
xxx Jews lead you into keeping the old testament law and they dont even keep it themselves. That is why Jesus came to deliver all from the old testament law.

Satan wants everyone under the old testament law. Because that is where his authority is, as the wrath of God according to the old testament law.

daqq
July 13th, 2017, 07:41 AM
Jews Dont Keep The Law

Matt 3:15
15 But Jesus answered and said to him, "Permit it to be so now, for thus it is fitting for us to fulfill all righteousness." Then he allowed Him.
Luke 11:42
42 "But woe to you Pharisees! For you tithe mint and rue and all manner of herbs, and pass by justice and the love of God. These you ought to have done, without leaving the others undone.
Rom 2:16-29
16 in the day when God will judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ, according to my gospel.
17 Indeed you are called a Jew, and rest on the law, and make your boast in God,
18 and know His will, and approve the things that are excellent, being instructed out of the law,
19 and are confident that you yourself are a guide to the blind, a light to those who are in darkness,
20 an instructor of the foolish, a teacher of babes, having the form of knowledge and truth in the law.
21 You, therefore, who teach another, do you not teach yourself? You who preach that a man should not steal, do you steal?
22 You who say, "Do not commit adultery," do you commit adultery? You who abhor idols, do you rob temples?
23 You who make your boast in the law, do you dishonor God through breaking the law?
24 For "The name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of you," as it is written.
25 For circumcision is indeed profitable if you keep the law; but if you are a breaker of the law, your circumcision has become uncircumcision.
26 Therefore, if an uncircumcised man keeps the righteous requirements of the law, will not his uncircumcision be counted as circumcision?
27 And will not the physically uncircumcised, if he fulfills the law, judge you who, even with your written code and circumcision, are a transgressor of the law?
28 For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh;
29 but he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the Spirit, not in the letter; whose praise is not from men but from God.
Acts 15:5-11
5 But some of the sect of the Pharisees who believed rose up, saying, "It is necessary to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses."
6 Now the apostles and elders came together to consider this matter.
7 And when there had been much dispute, Peter rose up and said to them: "Men and brethren, you know that a good while ago God chose among us, that by my mouth the Gentiles should hear the word of the gospel and believe.
8 "So God, who knows the heart, acknowledged them by giving them the Holy Spirit, just as He did to us,
9 "and made no distinction between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.
10 "Now therefore, why do you test God by putting a yoke on the neck of the disciples which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?
11 "But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved in the same manner as they."
Acts 15:24
24 Since we have heard that some who went out from us have troubled you with words, unsettling your souls, saying, 'You must be circumcised and keep the law'-- to whom we gave no such commandment--
Gal 6:13-16
13 For not even those who are circumcised keep the law, but they desire to have you circumcised that they may boast in your flesh.
14 But God forbid that I should boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world.
15 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision avails anything, but a new creation.
16 And as many as walk according to this rule, peace and mercy be upon them, and upon the Israel of God.
(NKJ)
xxx Jews lead you into keeping the old testament law and they dont even keep it themselves. That is why Jesus came to deliver all from the old testament law.

Satan wants everyone under the old testament law. Because that is where his authority is, as the wrath of God according to the old testament law.

Funny how you are the only one that mentions "old testament law" in all that you posted. Can you not see that Paul only speaks against physical circumcision? It is because physical circumcision is the entry level sign meaning that if you become physically circumcised you must then follow all of the Jewish INTERPRETATION of the Law, (which was primarily physical then and continues to be so now). It is the physical interpretation which Paul is against because it really is no different then infant baptism or any other physical interpretation of laws and commandments. The physical does you no good other than to ultimately give you reason to boast in your flesh and what you have done. However the fact that Paul is teaching against physical circumcision does not abolish or do away with the Law; it rather only means that if you do not walk it according to the teachings of Messiah in the Gospel accounts and all of his Testimony, then you are no better off than those who think they can keep the law in the physical interpretations of the Pharisees and be okay. The reason the physical interpretations are faulty is because the outward physical "works of the Law" cannot change the inner man. The only way for the veil to be removed is to understand the Torah according to the Testimony of the Messiah in the Gospel accounts and all his words, (which are also found in the Apocalypse). The objective according to Paul is not to abolish the Torah from your heart and mind but rather to understand it in the supernal understanding whenever you read the "old covenant" even according to his own words, (2Cor 3:14 KJV). The veil is over the heart, eyes, and mind, and therefore "abolishing" or "doing away" with the Torah does not remove the veil that is over the heart, eyes, and mind. It is the Testimony of the Master that does indeed remove the veil because he is expounding the Torah, the Prophets, and the Writings in all of his parables, proverbs, idioms, sayings, teachings, doctrine, and Testimony.

Soul for soul, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot: cut them off before they choke the Seed of the Word out of the soil of your heart and you become unfruitful. If your right eye is like a desert nomad wanderer always wandering off toward unsightly things, pluck him out and cast that evil shepherd out of you. If your right hand is always putting things up to your mouth which you know you should not be eating, drinking, or smoking, cut him off and and cast that evil shepherd out of you. If your foot is always running swiftly into mischief and causing you to stumble, cut off that evil shepherd and cast him out of you, (three evil shepherds I cut off in a year, lol).

Squeaky
July 13th, 2017, 10:13 AM
Funny how you are the only one that mentions "old testament law" in all that you posted. Can you not see that Paul only speaks against physical circumcision? It is because physical circumcision is the entry level sign meaning that if you become physically circumcised you must then follow all of the Jewish INTERPRETATION of the Law, (which was primarily physical then and continues to be so now). It is the physical interpretation which Paul is against because it really is no different then infant baptism or any other physical interpretation of laws and commandments. The physical does you no good other than to ultimately give you reason to boast in your flesh and what you have done. However the fact that Paul is teaching against physical circumcision does not abolish or do away with the Law; it rather only means that if you do not walk it according to the teachings of Messiah in the Gospel accounts and all of his Testimony, then you are no better off than those who think they can keep the law in the physical interpretations of the Pharisees and be okay. The reason the physical interpretations are faulty is because the outward physical "works of the Law" cannot change the inner man. The only way for the veil to be removed is to understand the Torah according to the Testimony of the Messiah in the Gospel accounts and all his words, (which are also found in the Apocalypse). The objective according to Paul is not to abolish the Torah from your heart and mind but rather to understand it in the supernal understanding whenever you read the "old covenant" even according to his own words, (2Cor 3:14 KJV). The veil is over the heart, eyes, and mind, and therefore "abolishing" or "doing away" with the Torah does not remove the veil that is over the heart, eyes, and mind. It is the Testimony of the Master that does indeed remove the veil because he is expounding the Torah, the Prophets, and the Writings in all of his parables, proverbs, idioms, sayings, teachings, doctrine, and Testimony.

Soul for soul, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot: cut them off before they choke the Seed of the Word out of the soil of your heart and you become unfruitful. If your right eye is like a desert nomad wanderer always wandering off toward unsightly things, pluck him out and cast that evil shepherd out of you. If your right hand is always putting things up to your mouth which you know you should not be eating, drinking, or smoking, cut him off and and cast that evil shepherd out of you. If your foot is always running swiftly into mischief and causing you to stumble, cut off that evil shepherd and cast him out of you, (three evil shepherds I cut off in a year, lol).

I said
That is a very intellectual excuse to justify the old testament.
But I think I'll go with the Holy Spirit. Jesus made the old testament obsolete, He annulled the commandments, He changed the law.

Heb 8:13
13 In that He says, "A new covenant," He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.
(NKJ)

Heb 9:16-18
16 For where there is a testament, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.
17 For a testament is in force after men are dead, since it has no power at all while the testator lives.
18 Therefore not even the first covenant was dedicated without blood.
(NKJ)

Heb 7:12
12 For the priesthood being changed, of necessity there is also a change of the law.
(NKJ)

Heb 7:18-19
18 For on the one hand there is an annulling of the former commandment because of its weakness and unprofitableness,
19 for the law made nothing perfect; on the other hand, there is the bringing in of a better hope, through which we draw near to God.
(NKJ)

Jacob
July 13th, 2017, 10:13 AM
Shalom.

I am a Jew, and I know that I am to keep and teach God's Commandments.

Matthew 5:17-19 NASB - 17 "Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill. 18 "For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished. 19 "Whoever then annuls one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever keeps and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Shalom.

Jacob

Squeaky
July 13th, 2017, 10:34 AM
Shalom.

I am a Jew, and I know that I am to keep and teach God's Commandments.

Matthew 5:17-19 NASB - 17 "Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill. 18 "For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished. 19 "Whoever then annuls one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever keeps and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
You were kicked out of Christianity, so now you blaspheme the new testament. Your working for satan by teaching the old testament law.

24 Since we have heard that some who went out from us have troubled you with words, unsettling your souls, saying, 'You must be circumcised and keep the law'-- to whom we gave no such commandment--
Gal 6:13-16
13 For not even those who are circumcised keep the law, but they desire to have you circumcised that they may boast in your flesh.
14 But God forbid that I should boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world.

Jesus made the old testament obsolete, He annulled the commandments, He changed the law.

Heb 8:13
13 In that He says, "A new covenant," He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.
(NKJ)

Heb 7:12
12 For the priesthood being changed, of necessity there is also a change of the law.
(NKJ)

Heb 7:18
18 For on the one hand there is an annulling of the former commandment because of its weakness and unprofitableness,
(NKJ)

You only have one verse that you can use to defend yourself. And you don't understand it correctly. Jesus fulfilled the law and showed us how to fulfill it also. You refuse to love Jesus.

Rom 13:10
10 Love does no harm to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.
(NKJ)

daqq
July 13th, 2017, 11:31 AM
I said
That is a very intellectual excuse to justify the old testament.
But I think I'll go with the Holy Spirit. Jesus made the old testament obsolete, He annulled the commandments, He changed the law.

Heb 8:13
13 In that He says, "A new covenant," He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.
(NKJ)

Heb 9:16-18
16 For where there is a testament, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.
17 For a testament is in force after men are dead, since it has no power at all while the testator lives.
18 Therefore not even the first covenant was dedicated without blood.
(NKJ)

Heb 7:12
12 For the priesthood being changed, of necessity there is also a change of the law.
(NKJ)

Heb 7:18-19
18 For on the one hand there is an annulling of the former commandment because of its weakness and unprofitableness,
19 for the law made nothing perfect; on the other hand, there is the bringing in of a better hope, through which we draw near to God.
(NKJ)

All misunderstood and mistranslated passages taken out of context. For instance the same two words used by the same author for the metamorphosis of Enoch are used for the metamorphosis of the Torah. It is not a deletion or abolishing of the Torah but exactly what was foretold and also expected by Israel to come to pass when Messiah arrived. And that is likewise exactly what Messiah accomplished when he came. The Torah was not abolished or rendered obsolete but rather transformed just as Enoch was transformed. When Enoch was transformed he did not stop being "Enoch" and change into something entirely different. You cut yourself off from the Root by way of your doctrine. Every scribe who has been discipled into the kingdom of the heavens is like a head of household who brings forth out of his treasure things both new and old, (Matthew 13:52). Also, when you say that you will "stick with the Holy Spirit", I have seen you say many times that the Holy Spirit "gives you verses", perhaps you should ask yourself why your version of the Holy Spirit never gives you any Word of the Father out of what you call the "old testament", and why your version of the Holy Spirit tells you that Satan is the one who wants people to read the "old testament". By saying such nonsense you are already standing on the precipice of blasphemy for equating the Living Oracles of the Word of the Father in the Torah as bondage and a delight of Satan being used only to deceive people. Do you not realize that when you abolish the Torah you are essentially deleting and abolishing the Son of Elohim who is the Word of the Father? How do you suppose you will get away with teaching and preaching that the Word of the Father is abolished, obsolete, deleted, done away with, and only used by Satan to deceive people?

Acts 7:38 ASV
38 This is he that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel that spake to him in the Mount Sinai, and with our fathers: who received living oracles [λογια ζωντα] to give unto us:

λογια ζωντα = "Living Words" ~ "Living Oracles" ~ "Living Sayings"

Luke tells us that Stephen was full of the Holy Spirit when he testified these words: why therefore does your version of the Holy Spirit tell you the opposite of the Holy Spirit who speaks through Stephen even to this day in the passage quoted above herein? I, like you, will also "stick with the Holy Spirit", but I have the Holy Scripture and Holy Word of the Holy Spirit to support what I believe and say. :chuckle:

daqq
July 13th, 2017, 11:32 AM
I said
You were kicked out of Christianity, so now you blaspheme the new testament. Your working for satan by teaching the old testament law.

Lol, and you blaspheme the Father and His Word by teaching that His Word, who is His Son, has been abolished, and teaching that His Word, who is His Son, is a tool of Satan to deceive and enslave people.

Squeaky
July 13th, 2017, 12:28 PM
[QUOTE=daqq;5062632]All misunderstood and mistranslated passages taken out of context. For instance the same two words used by the same author for the metamorphosis of Enoch are used for the metamorphosis of the Torah. It is not a deletion or abolishing of the Torah but exactly what was foretold and also expected by Israel to come to pass when Messiah arrived. And that is likewise exactly what Messiah accomplished when he came. The Torah was not abolished or rendered obsolete but rather transformed just as Enoch was transformed. When Enoch was transformed he did not stop being "Enoch" and change into something entirely different. You cut yourself off from the Root by way of your doctrine. Every scribe who has been discipled into the kingdom of the heavens is like a head of household who brings forth out of his treasure things both new and old, (Matthew 13:52).

Also, when you say that you will "stick with the Holy Spirit", I have seen you say many times that the Holy Spirit "gives you verses", perhaps you should ask yourself why your version of the Holy Spirit never gives you any Word of the Father out of what you call the "old testament",


and why your version of the Holy Spirit tells you that Satan is the one who wants people to read the "old testament". By saying such nonsense you are already standing on the precipice of blasphemy for equating the Living Oracles of the Word of the Father in the Torah as bondage and a delight of Satan being used only to deceive people. Do you not realize that when you abolish the Torah you are essentially deleting and abolishing the Son of Elohim who is the Word of the Father? How do you suppose you will get away with teaching and preaching that the Word of the Father is abolished, obsolete, deleted, done away with, and only used by Satan to deceive people?


I said
Intellectual nonsense. Carnal logic, and reasoning. The wisdom of man.

[1Co 1:19-21
19 For it is written: "I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, And bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent."
20 Where [is] the wise? Where [is] the scribe? Where [is] the disputer of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?
21 For since, in the wisdom of God, the world through wisdom did not know God, it pleased God through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe.

I asked the Holy Spirit why the Father doesn't talk to me, He said.

[Jhn 5:37-38

37 "And the Father Himself, who sent Me, has testified of Me. You have neither heard His voice at any time, nor seen His form.
38 "But you do not have His word abiding in you, because whom He sent, Him you do not believe.

He also said

[Jhn 5:37-38
37 "And the Father Himself, who sent Me, has testified of Me. You have neither heard His voice at any time, nor seen His form.
38 "But you do not have His word abiding in you, because whom He sent, Him you do not believe.

And He said
[2Th 2:3-4
3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for [that Day will not come] unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition,
4 who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.

I'm thinking you didn't know that, and that you don't know the Holy Spirit.

Jacob
July 13th, 2017, 12:59 PM
I said
You were kicked out of Christianity, so now you blaspheme the new testament. Your working for satan by teaching the old testament law.

24 Since we have heard that some who went out from us have troubled you with words, unsettling your souls, saying, 'You must be circumcised and keep the law'-- to whom we gave no such commandment--
Gal 6:13-16
13 For not even those who are circumcised keep the law, but they desire to have you circumcised that they may boast in your flesh.
14 But God forbid that I should boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world.

Jesus made the old testament obsolete, He annulled the commandments, He changed the law.

Heb 8:13
13 In that He says, "A new covenant," He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.
(NKJ)

Heb 7:12
12 For the priesthood being changed, of necessity there is also a change of the law.
(NKJ)

Heb 7:18
18 For on the one hand there is an annulling of the former commandment because of its weakness and unprofitableness,
(NKJ)

You only have one verse that you can use to defend yourself. And you don't understand it correctly. Jesus fulfilled the law and showed us how to fulfill it also. You refuse to love Jesus.

Rom 13:10
10 Love does no harm to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.
(NKJ)
Shalom.

Why do you say that I was kicked out of Christianity?

I accept the TaNaKh and Matthew through Revelation. I am a Jew. I read, study, observe, keep, and teach Torah. The New Covenant is for the house of Israel and the house of Judah. It is in Yeshua HaMashiach, Jesus the Christ. It is God's law written on minds and hearts. As a proselyte and a convert to Judaism and Israel, I was originally still a Christian and in at least a way not still fully converted. However, I do not accept the doctrine of the Trinity, which some people accept to be a doctrine of Christianity. In Christianity I was also kept from observing God's Law, though I was able to keep it on my own in many ways. Though there are essentials for all that turn to God from among the Gentiles, and no greater burden than these, I still chose to obey Jesus' instruction in Matthew 5:17-19, and this, or the New Covenant, is how I became a part of Israel. It is important to be in covenant with God.

Acts 15:19-20 NASB - 19 "Therefore it is my judgment that we do not trouble those who are turning to God from among the Gentiles, 20 but that we write to them that they abstain from things contaminated by idols and from fornication and from what is strangled and from blood.

Jeremiah 31:31-34 NASB - 31 "Behold, days are coming," declares the LORD, "when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah, 32 not like the covenant which I made with their fathers in the day I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, although I was a husband to them," declares the LORD. 33 "But this is the covenant which I will make with the house of Israel after those days," declares the LORD, "I will put My law within them and on their heart I will write it; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. 34 "They will not teach again, each man his neighbor and each man his brother, saying, 'Know the LORD,' for they will all know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them," declares the LORD, "for I will forgive their iniquity, and their sin I will remember no more."

Matthew 5:17-19 NASB - 17 "Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill. 18 "For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished. 19 "Whoever then annuls one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever keeps and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Shalom.

Jacob

Squeaky
July 13th, 2017, 02:45 PM
Shalom.

Why do you say that I was kicked out of Christianity?

I accept the TaNaKh and Matthew through Revelation. I am a Jew. I read, study, observe, keep, and teach Torah. The New Covenant is for the house of Israel and the house of Judah. It is in Yeshua HaMashiach, Jesus the Christ. It is God's law written on minds and hearts. As a proselyte and a convert to Judaism and Israel, I was originally still a Christian and in at least a way not still fully converted. However, I do not accept the doctrine of the Trinity, which some people accept to be a doctrine of Christianity. In Christianity I was also kept from observing God's Law, though I was able to keep it on my own in many ways. Though there are essentials for all that turn to God from among the Gentiles, and no greater burden than these, I still chose to obey Jesus' instruction in Matthew 5:17-19, and this, or the New Covenant, is how I became a part of Israel. It is important to be in covenant with God.

Acts 15:19-20 NASB - 19 "Therefore it is my judgment that we do not trouble those who are turning to God from among the Gentiles, 20 but that we write to them that they abstain from things contaminated by idols and from fornication and from what is strangled and from blood.

Jeremiah 31:31-34 NASB - 31 "Behold, days are coming," declares the LORD, "when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah, 32 not like the covenant which I made with their fathers in the day I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, although I was a husband to them," declares the LORD. 33 "But this is the covenant which I will make with the house of Israel after those days," declares the LORD, "I will put My law within them and on their heart I will write it; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. 34 "They will not teach again, each man his neighbor and each man his brother, saying, 'Know the LORD,' for they will all know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them," declares the LORD, "for I will forgive their iniquity, and their sin I will remember no more."

Matthew 5:17-19 NASB - 17 "Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill. 18 "For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished. 19 "Whoever then annuls one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever keeps and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
Your still spreading that same old deception of yours. From that doctrine of demons. Your Matt 5-19 says if anyone annuls the commandments in the old testament shall be called least in the kingdom.

The KJV and the NKJV says breaks one of the laws. Now in the KJV and the NKJV it says in Heb that Jesus annulled the old testament commandments . Your version says Jesus is the least in the kingdom. You are helping satan discredit Jesus. Your an antichrist.

[Mat 5:19-20 KJV] 19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach [them], the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed [the righteousness] of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

[Mat 5:19-20 NKJV] 19 "Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches [them], he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
20 "For I say to you, that unless your righteousness exceeds [the righteousness] of the scribes and Pharisees, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven.


[Heb 7:12, 18 NKJV] 12 For the priesthood being changed, of necessity there is also a change of the law. ... 18 For on the one hand there is an annulling of the former commandment because of its weakness and unprofitableness,

[Heb 7:18 KJV] 18 For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof.

Jacob
July 13th, 2017, 02:49 PM
I said
Your still spreading that same old deception of yours. From that doctrine of demons. Your Matt 5-19 says if anyone annuls the commandments in the old testament shall be called least in the kingdom.

The KJV and the NKJV says breaks one of the laws. Now in the KJV and the NKJV it says in Heb that Jesus annulled the old testament commandments . Your version says Jesus is the least in the kingdom. You are helping satan discredit Jesus. Your an antichrist.

[Mat 5:19-20 KJV] 19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach [them], the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed [the righteousness] of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

[Mat 5:19-20 NKJV] 19 "Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches [them], he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
20 "For I say to you, that unless your righteousness exceeds [the righteousness] of the scribes and Pharisees, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven.


[Heb 7:12, 18 NKJV] 12 For the priesthood being changed, of necessity there is also a change of the law. ... 18 For on the one hand there is an annulling of the former commandment because of its weakness and unprofitableness,

[Heb 7:18 KJV] 18 For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof.

Shalom.

No.

I have already said many times that Jesus observed and taught the Law. Do you believe that you are to obey or follow His instruction or teaching?

Shalom.

Jacob

Squeaky
July 13th, 2017, 03:08 PM
Shalom.

No.

I have already said many times that Jesus observed and taught the Law. Do you believe that you are to obey or follow His instruction or teaching?

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
Your lying again. Your the one that is sinning against Jesus. Jesus changed the law. Your calling Jesus a liar by teaching the old testament law. Your an antichrist. Jesus changed the law.

[Heb 7:12, 18 NKJV] 12 For the priesthood being changed, of necessity there is also a change of the law. ...
18 For on the one hand there is an annulling of the former commandment because of its weakness and unprofitableness,

[Heb 7:18 KJV] 18 For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof.

Jacob
July 13th, 2017, 03:46 PM
I said
Your lying again. Your the one that is sinning against Jesus. Jesus changed the law. Your calling Jesus a liar by teaching the old testament law. Your an antichrist. Jesus changed the law.

[Heb 7:12, 18 NKJV] 12 For the priesthood being changed, of necessity there is also a change of the law. ...
18 For on the one hand there is an annulling of the former commandment because of its weakness and unprofitableness,

[Heb 7:18 KJV] 18 For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof.
Shalom.

You are misinterpreting what you are reading. And, you have rejected what Jesus said. The Law defines what sin is.

Shalom.

Jacob

Squeaky
July 13th, 2017, 04:49 PM
Shalom.

You are misinterpreting what you are reading. And, you have rejected what Jesus said. The Law defines what sin is.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
Your an idiot. The new testament law of Christ defines what sin is.
And to leave Jesus and go backwards to the old testament law is a sin. And you have fallen from grace. If you even attempt to be justified by the old testament law you have fallen from grace.


[Gal 5:1-4
1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free, and do not be entangled again with a yoke of bondage.
2 Indeed I, Paul, say to you that if you become circumcised, Christ will profit you nothing.
3 And I testify again to every man who becomes circumcised that he is a debtor to keep the whole law.
4 You have become estranged from Christ, you who [attempt to] be justified by law; you have fallen from grace.

Jacob
July 13th, 2017, 05:07 PM
I said
Your an idiot. The new testament law of Christ defines what sin is.
And to leave Jesus and go backwards to the old testament law is a sin. And you have fallen from grace. If you even attempt to be justified by the old testament law you have fallen from grace.


[Gal 5:1-4
1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free, and do not be entangled again with a yoke of bondage.
2 Indeed I, Paul, say to you that if you become circumcised, Christ will profit you nothing.
3 And I testify again to every man who becomes circumcised that he is a debtor to keep the whole law.
4 You have become estranged from Christ, you who [attempt to] be justified by law; you have fallen from grace.
Shalom.

Not if you accept all of Matthew through Revelation.

1 John 3:4 KJV - 4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

Shalom.

Jacob

Squeaky
July 13th, 2017, 05:24 PM
Shalom.

Not if you accept all of Matthew through Revelation.

1 John 3:4 KJV - 4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said\
To accept Matt through Rev is to reject the old testament law. Jesus changed the law He didn't do away with law. Do you even know what the definition of justice is????

Jacob
July 13th, 2017, 05:47 PM
I said\
To accept Matt through Rev is to reject the old testament law. Jesus changed the law He didn't do away with law. Do you even know what the definition of justice is????Shalom.

The problem is that you are wrong.

Shalom.

Jacob

Squeaky
July 13th, 2017, 06:17 PM
Shalom.

The problem is that you are wrong.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
lol Only in your perverted imagination. I'll ask you again can you define justice???

Jacob
July 13th, 2017, 06:21 PM
I said
lol Only in your perverted imagination. I'll ask you again can you define justice???Shalom.

Not without God and His Law.

Shalom.

Jacob

Squeaky
July 13th, 2017, 06:28 PM
Shalom.

Not without God and His Law.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
The law supports justice. And you cant define justice. Doesn't that tell you something about your own deception.
[Gal 2:21
21 "I do not set aside the grace of God; for if righteousness [comes] through the law, then Christ died in vain."

Jacob
July 13th, 2017, 07:20 PM
I said
The law supports justice. And you cant define justice. Doesn't that tell you something about your own deception.
[Gal 2:21
21 "I do not set aside the grace of God; for if righteousness [comes] through the law, then Christ died in vain."Shalom.

Justice is punishment for wrong done or punishment for wrong done against you.

Shalom.

Jacob

Squeaky
July 13th, 2017, 07:37 PM
Shalom.

Justice is punishment for wrong done or punishment for wrong done against you.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
Like I said your an idiot. You should really start believing Jesus.
JESUS NEW TESTAMENT JUSTICE
Matt 12:18-21
18 "Behold, My Servant whom I have chosen, my Beloved in whom My soul is well pleased! I will put My Spirit upon Him, and He will declare justice to the Gentiles.
19 He will not quarrel nor cry out, nor will anyone hear His voice in the streets.
20 A bruised reed He will not break, and smoking flax He will not quench, till He sends forth justice to victory;
21 And in His name Gentiles will trust."
Matt 6:14-15
14 "For if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you.
15 "But if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.
Luke 6:37
37 "Judge not, and you shall not be judged. Condemn not, and you shall not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven.
Matt 7:2-5
2 "For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you.
3 "And why do you look at the speck in your brother's eye, but do not consider the plank in your own eye?
4 "Or how can you say to your brother, 'Let me remove the speck from your eye'; and look, a plank is in your own eye?
5 "Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck out of your brother's eye.
Rom 2:12-14
12 For as many as have sinned without law will also perish without law, and as many as have sinned in the law will be judged by the law
13 (for not the hearers of the law are just in the sight of God, but the doers of the law will be justified;
14 for when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do the things in the law, these, although not having the law, are a law to themselves,
Gal 6:2-7
2 Bear one another's burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ.
3 For if anyone thinks himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceives himself.
4 But let each one examine his own work, and then he will have rejoicing in himself alone, and not in another.
5 For each one shall bear his own load.
6 Let him who is taught the word share in all good things with him who teaches.
7 Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap.
Heb 8:13
13 In that He says, "A new covenant," He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.
Rom 8:1-2
1 There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death.
Heb 2:1-5
1 Therefore we must give the more earnest heed to the things we have heard, lest we drift away.
2 For if the word spoken through angels proved steadfast, and every transgression and disobedience received a just reward,
3 how shall we escape if we neglect so great a salvation, which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed to us by those who heard Him,
4 God also bearing witness both with signs and wonders, with various miracles, and gifts of the Holy Spirit, according to His own will?
5 For He has not put the world to come, of which we speak, in subjection to angels.
(NKJ)
xxxNew testament justice is you will receive what ever you dish out. Jesus never dished out any kind of punishment on others. He always turned the other cheek. And even on the cross Jesus was praying to God the Father to forgive us. If you forgive you will be forgiven, if you do not forgive neither will God forgive you. Jesus changed the definition of justice. Every time someone does you wrong, you have an opportunity to be forgiven for something you have done wrong to God. Because the same measure of anything you use, like mercy, forgiveness, compassion, or wrath, emotions, reveange will be measure back to you by God.


Acts 8:32-33
32 The place in the Scripture which he read was this: "He was led as a sheep to the slaughter; and as a lamb before its shearer is silent, so He opened not His mouth.
33 In His humiliation His justice was taken away, and who will declare His generation? For His life is taken from the earth."
(NKJ)


Matt 18:23-35
23 "Therefore the kingdom of heaven is like a certain king who wanted to settle accounts with his servants.
24 "And when he had begun to settle accounts, one was brought to him who owed him ten thousand talents.
25 "But as he was not able to pay, his master commanded that he be sold, with his wife and children and all that he had, and that payment be made.
26 "The servant therefore fell down before him, saying, 'Master, have patience with me, and I will pay you all.'
27 "Then the master of that servant was moved with compassion, released him, and forgave him the debt.
28 "But that servant went out and found one of his fellow servants who owed him a hundred denarii; and he laid hands on him and took him by the throat, saying, 'Pay me what you owe!'
29 "So his fellow servant fell down at his feet and begged him, saying, 'Have patience with me, and I will pay you all.'
30 "And he would not, but went and threw him into prison till he should pay the debt.
31 "So when his fellow servants saw what had been done, they were very grieved, and came and told their master all that had been done.
32 "Then his master, after he had called him, said to him, 'You wicked servant! I forgave you all that debt because you begged me.
33 'Should you not also have had compassion on your fellow servant, just as I had pity on you?'
34 "And his master was angry, and delivered him to the torturers until he should pay all that was due to him.
35 "So My heavenly Father also will do to you if each of you, from his heart, does not forgive his brother his trespasses."
(NKJ)

xxx Even the old testament told us what the new justice would be when the deliverer comes

Isa 42:1-4

1 "Behold! My Servant whom I uphold, my Elect One in whom My soul delights! I have put My Spirit upon Him; he will bring forth justice to the Gentiles.
2 He will not cry out, nor raise His voice, nor cause His voice to be heard in the street.
3 A bruised reed He will not break, and smoking flax He will not quench; he will bring forth justice for truth.
4 He will not fail nor be discouraged, till He has established justice in the earth; and the coastlands shall wait for His law."
(NKJ)

Jacob
July 13th, 2017, 08:05 PM
I said
Like I said your an idiot. You should really start believing Jesus.
JESUS NEW TESTAMENT JUSTICE
Matt 12:18-21
18 "Behold, My Servant whom I have chosen, my Beloved in whom My soul is well pleased! I will put My Spirit upon Him, and He will declare justice to the Gentiles.
19 He will not quarrel nor cry out, nor will anyone hear His voice in the streets.
20 A bruised reed He will not break, and smoking flax He will not quench, till He sends forth justice to victory;
21 And in His name Gentiles will trust."
Matt 6:14-15
14 "For if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you.
15 "But if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.
Luke 6:37
37 "Judge not, and you shall not be judged. Condemn not, and you shall not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven.
Matt 7:2-5
2 "For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you.
3 "And why do you look at the speck in your brother's eye, but do not consider the plank in your own eye?
4 "Or how can you say to your brother, 'Let me remove the speck from your eye'; and look, a plank is in your own eye?
5 "Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck out of your brother's eye.
Rom 2:12-14
12 For as many as have sinned without law will also perish without law, and as many as have sinned in the law will be judged by the law
13 (for not the hearers of the law are just in the sight of God, but the doers of the law will be justified;
14 for when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do the things in the law, these, although not having the law, are a law to themselves,
Gal 6:2-7
2 Bear one another's burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ.
3 For if anyone thinks himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceives himself.
4 But let each one examine his own work, and then he will have rejoicing in himself alone, and not in another.
5 For each one shall bear his own load.
6 Let him who is taught the word share in all good things with him who teaches.
7 Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap.
Heb 8:13
13 In that He says, "A new covenant," He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.
Rom 8:1-2
1 There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death.
Heb 2:1-5
1 Therefore we must give the more earnest heed to the things we have heard, lest we drift away.
2 For if the word spoken through angels proved steadfast, and every transgression and disobedience received a just reward,
3 how shall we escape if we neglect so great a salvation, which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed to us by those who heard Him,
4 God also bearing witness both with signs and wonders, with various miracles, and gifts of the Holy Spirit, according to His own will?
5 For He has not put the world to come, of which we speak, in subjection to angels.
(NKJ)
xxxNew testament justice is you will receive what ever you dish out. Jesus never dished out any kind of punishment on others. He always turned the other cheek. And even on the cross Jesus was praying to God the Father to forgive us. If you forgive you will be forgiven, if you do not forgive neither will God forgive you. Jesus changed the definition of justice. Every time someone does you wrong, you have an opportunity to be forgiven for something you have done wrong to God. Because the same measure of anything you use, like mercy, forgiveness, compassion, or wrath, emotions, reveange will be measure back to you by God.


Acts 8:32-33
32 The place in the Scripture which he read was this: "He was led as a sheep to the slaughter; and as a lamb before its shearer is silent, so He opened not His mouth.
33 In His humiliation His justice was taken away, and who will declare His generation? For His life is taken from the earth."
(NKJ)


Matt 18:23-35
23 "Therefore the kingdom of heaven is like a certain king who wanted to settle accounts with his servants.
24 "And when he had begun to settle accounts, one was brought to him who owed him ten thousand talents.
25 "But as he was not able to pay, his master commanded that he be sold, with his wife and children and all that he had, and that payment be made.
26 "The servant therefore fell down before him, saying, 'Master, have patience with me, and I will pay you all.'
27 "Then the master of that servant was moved with compassion, released him, and forgave him the debt.
28 "But that servant went out and found one of his fellow servants who owed him a hundred denarii; and he laid hands on him and took him by the throat, saying, 'Pay me what you owe!'
29 "So his fellow servant fell down at his feet and begged him, saying, 'Have patience with me, and I will pay you all.'
30 "And he would not, but went and threw him into prison till he should pay the debt.
31 "So when his fellow servants saw what had been done, they were very grieved, and came and told their master all that had been done.
32 "Then his master, after he had called him, said to him, 'You wicked servant! I forgave you all that debt because you begged me.
33 'Should you not also have had compassion on your fellow servant, just as I had pity on you?'
34 "And his master was angry, and delivered him to the torturers until he should pay all that was due to him.
35 "So My heavenly Father also will do to you if each of you, from his heart, does not forgive his brother his trespasses."
(NKJ)

xxx Even the old testament told us what the new justice would be when the deliverer comes

Isa 42:1-4

1 "Behold! My Servant whom I uphold, my Elect One in whom My soul delights! I have put My Spirit upon Him; he will bring forth justice to the Gentiles.
2 He will not cry out, nor raise His voice, nor cause His voice to be heard in the street.
3 A bruised reed He will not break, and smoking flax He will not quench; he will bring forth justice for truth.
4 He will not fail nor be discouraged, till He has established justice in the earth; and the coastlands shall wait for His law."
(NKJ)
Shalom.

I quoted Jesus. What are you doing now? Why you are objecting in this manner I do not know.

Shalom.

Jacob

Squeaky
July 13th, 2017, 08:18 PM
Shalom.

Justice is punishment for wrong done or punishment for wrong done against you.

Shalom.

Jacob



Shalom.

I quoted Jesus. What are you doing now? Why you are objecting in this manner I do not know.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
Your lying again. Look at what you said. I really don't think you have any idea of what truth means.
You said justice is punishment. And Jesus says justice is forgiveness. That is the opposite of punishment.
What is wrong with you?

patrick jane
July 13th, 2017, 08:22 PM
Justice is a fresh pie

Squeaky
July 13th, 2017, 08:27 PM
Justice is a fresh pie

I said
ROFLOL You make more sense than Jacob.

Jacob
July 13th, 2017, 09:48 PM
I said
Your lying again. Look at what you said. I really don't think you have any idea of what truth means.
You said justice is punishment. And Jesus says justice is forgiveness. That is the opposite of punishment.
What is wrong with you?

Shalom.

If I forgave you for a wrong that you have committed against me, that is a right I have and something that God wants me to do, but it is not justice. In fact, forgiveness may not protect you from justice. Before God it will not, and before man it should not. A Judge should render righteous judgment. Justice is when the appropriate punishment is applied for the wrong or crime committed. The punishment should be commensurate with the crime committed.

Shalom.

Jacob

patrick jane
July 13th, 2017, 09:52 PM
Shalom.

If I forgave you for a wrong that you have committed against me, that is a right I have and something that God wants me to do, but it is not justice. In fact, forgiveness may not protect you from justice. Before God it will not, and before man it should not. A Judge should render righteous judgment. Justice is when the appropriate punishment is applied for the wrong or crime committed. The punishment should be commensurate with the crime committed.

Shalom.

JacobYou should run for president !!

daqq
July 13th, 2017, 11:02 PM
All misunderstood and mistranslated passages taken out of context. For instance the same two words used by the same author for the metamorphosis of Enoch are used for the metamorphosis of the Torah. It is not a deletion or abolishing of the Torah but exactly what was foretold and also expected by Israel to come to pass when Messiah arrived. And that is likewise exactly what Messiah accomplished when he came. The Torah was not abolished or rendered obsolete but rather transformed just as Enoch was transformed. When Enoch was transformed he did not stop being "Enoch" and change into something entirely different. You cut yourself off from the Root by way of your doctrine. Every scribe who has been discipled into the kingdom of the heavens is like a head of household who brings forth out of his treasure things both new and old, (Matthew 13:52).

Also, when you say that you will "stick with the Holy Spirit", I have seen you say many times that the Holy Spirit "gives you verses", perhaps you should ask yourself why your version of the Holy Spirit never gives you any Word of the Father out of what you call the "old testament",


and why your version of the Holy Spirit tells you that Satan is the one who wants people to read the "old testament". By saying such nonsense you are already standing on the precipice of blasphemy for equating the Living Oracles of the Word of the Father in the Torah as bondage and a delight of Satan being used only to deceive people. Do you not realize that when you abolish the Torah you are essentially deleting and abolishing the Son of Elohim who is the Word of the Father? How do you suppose you will get away with teaching and preaching that the Word of the Father is abolished, obsolete, deleted, done away with, and only used by Satan to deceive people?


I said
Intellectual nonsense. Carnal logic, and reasoning. The wisdom of man.

[1Co 1:19-21
19 For it is written: "I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, And bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent."
20 Where [is] the wise? Where [is] the scribe? Where [is] the disputer of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?
21 For since, in the wisdom of God, the world through wisdom did not know God, it pleased God through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe.

I asked the Holy Spirit why the Father doesn't talk to me, He said.

[Jhn 5:37-38

37 "And the Father Himself, who sent Me, has testified of Me. You have neither heard His voice at any time, nor seen His form.
38 "But you do not have His word abiding in you, because whom He sent, Him you do not believe.

He also said

[Jhn 5:37-38
37 "And the Father Himself, who sent Me, has testified of Me. You have neither heard His voice at any time, nor seen His form.
38 "But you do not have His word abiding in you, because whom He sent, Him you do not believe.

And He said
[2Th 2:3-4
3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for [that Day will not come] unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition,
4 who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.

I'm thinking you didn't know that, and that you don't know the Holy Spirit.

None of that has anything to do with what was posted.

Squeaky
July 14th, 2017, 07:55 AM
None of that has anything to do with what was posted.

I said
I'm sorry if you cant see. Or understand the Spirit. But remember I'm not the one who blinded you.

[Jhn 12:40
40 "He has blinded their eyes and hardened their hearts, Lest they should see with [their] eyes, Lest they should understand with [their] hearts and turn, So that I should heal them."
[Rom 11:7
7 What then? Israel has not obtained what it seeks; but the elect have obtained it, and the rest were blinded.
[2Co 3:14
14 But their minds were blinded. For until this day the same veil remains unlifted in the reading of the Old Testament, because the [veil] is taken away in Christ.
[2Co 4:4
4 whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine on them.

Squeaky
July 14th, 2017, 08:25 AM
Shalom.

If I forgave you for a wrong that you have committed against me, that is a right I have and something that God wants me to do, but it is not justice. In fact, forgiveness may not protect you from justice. Before God it will not, and before man it should not. A Judge should render righteous judgment. Justice is when the appropriate punishment is applied for the wrong or crime committed. The punishment should be commensurate with the crime committed.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
Your an idiot. You seem to have that old testament law and justice down pretty good. Satan has much control over you. Satan is the wrath of God in the old testament, and he likes your kind of justice. That is what makes you an antichrist.
But Jesus came to tell us what true justice is. I understand that this kind of justice is far beyond your understanding. Jesus came to declare what true justice is.

JESUS NEW TESTAMENT JUSTICE
Matt 12:18-21
18 "Behold, My Servant whom I have chosen, my Beloved in whom My soul is well pleased! I will put My Spirit upon Him, and He will declare justice to the Gentiles.
19 He will not quarrel nor cry out, nor will anyone hear His voice in the streets.
20 A bruised reed He will not break, and smoking flax He will not quench, till He sends forth justice to victory;
21 And in His name Gentiles will trust."
Matt 6:14-15
14 "For if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you.
15 "But if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.
Luke 6:37
37 "Judge not, and you shall not be judged. Condemn not, and you shall not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven.
Matt 7:2-5
2 "For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you.

daqq
July 14th, 2017, 08:32 AM
I said
I'm sorry if you cant see. Or understand the Spirit. But remember I'm not the one who blinded you.

[Jhn 12:40
40 "He has blinded their eyes and hardened their hearts, Lest they should see with [their] eyes, Lest they should understand with [their] hearts and turn, So that I should heal them."
[Rom 11:7
7 What then? Israel has not obtained what it seeks; but the elect have obtained it, and the rest were blinded.
[2Co 3:14
14 But their minds were blinded. For until this day the same veil remains unlifted in the reading of the Old Testament, because the [veil] is taken away in Christ.
[2Co 4:4
4 whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine on them.

Who is blind? Lol . . .


How do you suppose you will get away with teaching and preaching that the Word of the Father is abolished, obsolete, deleted, done away with, and only used by Satan to deceive people?

Acts 7:38 ASV
38 This is he that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel that spake to him in the Mount Sinai, and with our fathers: who received living oracles [λογια ζωντα] to give unto us:

λογια ζωντα = "Living Words" ~ "Living Oracles" ~ "Living Sayings"

Luke tells us that Stephen was full of the Holy Spirit when he testified these words: why therefore does your version of the Holy Spirit tell you the opposite of the Holy Spirit who speaks through Stephen even to this day in the passage quoted above herein? I, like you, will also "stick with the Holy Spirit", but I have the Holy Scripture and Holy Word of the Holy Spirit to support what I believe and say. :chuckle:

Apparently you are not even capable of holding a conversation.

daqq
July 14th, 2017, 09:04 AM
Satan wants everyone under the old testament law.


Your working for satan by teaching the old testament law.


Like I said your an idiot. You should really start believing Jesus.

Perhaps it is you who should start believing him:

Matthew 4:1-11 ASV
1 Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil.
2 And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he afterward hungered.
3 And the tempter came and said unto him, If thou art the Son of God, command that these stones become bread.
4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. Dt 8:3
5 Then the devil taketh him into the holy city; and he set him on the pinnacle of the temple,
6 and saith unto him, If thou art the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and, On their hands they shall bear thee up, Lest haply thou dash thy foot against a stone.
7 Jesus said unto him, Again it is written, Thou shalt not make trial of the Lord thy God. Dt 6:16
8 Again, the devil taketh him unto an exceeding high mountain, and showeth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;
9 and he said unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me.
10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve. Dt 6:13
11 Then the devil leaveth him; and behold, angels came and ministered unto him.

You teach the exact opposite of what the Master teaches because when he was under trials and temptations in the wilderness, by the Devil and the Satan, he quoted the Torah, Dt 6:13, Dt 6:16, and Dt 8:3, and that is how he overcame the temptations.

chair
July 14th, 2017, 09:38 AM
Arrogance and Ignorance reign supreme.

We keep the law. We do not keep the_law_that_some_Christians_think_we_ought_to_be_ keeping. And we do not keep the law in order to gain the Christian idea of the afterlife.

Sorry. You aren't in charge of our religion.

Jacob
July 14th, 2017, 09:54 AM
I said
Your an idiot. You seem to have that old testament law and justice down pretty good. Satan has much control over you. Satan is the wrath of God in the old testament, and he likes your kind of justice. That is what makes you an antichrist.
But Jesus came to tell us what true justice is. I understand that this kind of justice is far beyond your understanding. Jesus came to declare what true justice is.

JESUS NEW TESTAMENT JUSTICE
Matt 12:18-21
18 "Behold, My Servant whom I have chosen, my Beloved in whom My soul is well pleased! I will put My Spirit upon Him, and He will declare justice to the Gentiles.
19 He will not quarrel nor cry out, nor will anyone hear His voice in the streets.
20 A bruised reed He will not break, and smoking flax He will not quench, till He sends forth justice to victory;
21 And in His name Gentiles will trust."
Matt 6:14-15
14 "For if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you.
15 "But if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.
Luke 6:37
37 "Judge not, and you shall not be judged. Condemn not, and you shall not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven.
Matt 7:2-5
2 "For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you.
Shalom.

Incorrect. You are incorrect.

The judgment of Jesus is not less strict than the Law of Moses. If you think or believe that justice is forgiveness then you do not understand truth, justice, and the grace of God. What you need is mercy and forgiveness. Do you understand Jesus' death upon the cross, justice, the wrath of God, judgment, and forgiveness? Jesus died so that your sins would be forgiven you and so that you would be granted the free gift of eternal life. But justice is not forgiveness even though we are called by God and Jesus to forgive. When you forgive that may not be to forget or pretend like nothing ever happened. And, it may not be to stand in the way of or otherwise prevent justice. God will deal with you on the basis of what you have done. If you have committed sin then the punishment for your sin will be in accordance with the will of God. A Judge may find you guilty. God may punish you. Do not hide behind forgiveness or call forgiveness justice. Forgiveness is not justice.

Shalom.

Jacob

Zeke
July 14th, 2017, 10:23 AM
Ying and yang playing duelist games of human time bandits, There is only one truth and that includes all, if one wants to play Jew or Gentile, male or Female let them because its all artificial and temporary states of the sleeper/dream of God. 1John 3:1-7, the sinner isn't one mentally with the mind of the Divine he is a Hebrew, Hindu, Mormon, Catholic, Christian, white, black, red, yellow, personality, American, etc....Eph 4:4-5.

Squeaky
July 14th, 2017, 11:09 AM
Shalom.

Incorrect. You are incorrect.

The judgment of Jesus is not less strict than the Law of Moses. If you think or believe that justice is forgiveness then you do not understand truth, justice, and the grace of God. What you need is mercy and forgiveness. Do you understand Jesus' death upon the cross, justice, the wrath of God, judgment, and forgiveness? Jesus died so that your sins would be forgiven you and so that you would be granted the free gift of eternal life. But justice is not forgiveness even though we are called by God and Jesus to forgive. When you forgive that may not be to forget or pretend like nothing ever happened. And, it may not be to stand in the way of or otherwise prevent justice. God will deal with you on the basis of what you have done. If you have committed sin then the punishment for your sin will be in accordance with the will of God. A Judge may find you guilty. God may punish you. Do not hide behind forgiveness or call forgiveness justice. Forgiveness is not justice.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
You have rejected everything I have ever showed you from the new testament. You are controlled by satan. Look at the definition of justice in the old testament and notice the number it is found under.

Matt 23:23-24
23 "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the law: justice and mercy and faith. These you ought to have done, without leaving the others undone.
24 "Blind guides, who strain out a gnat and swallow a camel!
(NKJ)

Matt 23:23-24
23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
24 Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.
(KJV)

Matt 23:23-24
23 "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the law: justice and mercy and faith. These you ought to have done, without leaving the others undone.
24 "Blind guides, who strain out a gnat and swallow a camel!
(NKJ)

6666 tsedaqah (tsed-aw-kaw');

from 6663; rightness (abstractly), subjectively (rectitude), objectively (justice), morally (virtue) or figuratively (prosperity):

KJV-- justice, moderately, right (-eous) (act, -ly, -ness).

Squeaky
July 14th, 2017, 11:11 AM
Ying and yang playing duelist games of human time bandits, There is only one truth and that includes all, if one wants to play Jew or Gentile, male or Female let them because its all artificial and temporary states of the sleeper/dream of God. 1John 3:1-7, the sinner isn't one mentally with the mind of the Divine he is a Hebrew, Hindu, Mormon, Catholic, Christian, white, black, red, yellow, personality, American, etc....Eph 4:4-5.

I said
Under religion in your profile its says your an "other". Other what?

Jacob
July 14th, 2017, 11:23 AM
I said
You have rejected everything I have ever showed you from the new testament. You are controlled by satan. Look at the definition of justice in the old testament and notice the number it is found under.

Matt 23:23-24
23 "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the law: justice and mercy and faith. These you ought to have done, without leaving the others undone.
24 "Blind guides, who strain out a gnat and swallow a camel!
(NKJ)

Matt 23:23-24
23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
24 Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.
(KJV)

Matt 23:23-24
23 "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the law: justice and mercy and faith. These you ought to have done, without leaving the others undone.
24 "Blind guides, who strain out a gnat and swallow a camel!
(NKJ)

6666 tsedaqah (tsed-aw-kaw');

from 6663; rightness (abstractly), subjectively (rectitude), objectively (justice), morally (virtue) or figuratively (prosperity):

KJV-- justice, moderately, right (-eous) (act, -ly, -ness).

Shalom.

I have no idea what you are talking about. I think that you are trying to define justice apart from God's Law. You do not have to. But that is what you have asked me to do. You said that it is forgiveness. You are wrong.

Shalom.

Jacob

Zeke
July 14th, 2017, 11:34 AM
I said
Under religion in your profile its says your an "other". Other what?

A brother of another mother Galatians 4:26-28, I have no religion and neither did our Spiritual pattern portrayed as Christ in flesh Galatians 3:1-5, are you still living as the temporal conscience of flesh and blood, the seed of the condemnation and bondage Galatians 4:24, wake up sleepy head, stop killing with the letter 2Cor 3:6.

Squeaky
July 14th, 2017, 12:56 PM
Shalom.

I have no idea what you are talking about. I think that you are trying to define justice apart from God's Law. You do not have to. But that is what you have asked me to do. You said that it is forgiveness. You are wrong.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
lol Where do you come up with all these phoney excuses? What I showed you was that justice in the old testament is different than the new testament justice. Your justice is the 6666.

Squeaky
July 14th, 2017, 01:00 PM
A brother of another mother Galatians 4:26-28, I have no religion and neither did our Spiritual pattern portrayed as Christ in flesh Galatians 3:1-5, are you still living as the temporal conscience of flesh and blood, the seed of the condemnation and bondage Galatians 4:24, wake up sleepy head, stop killing with the letter 2Cor 3:6.

I said

Then you don't confess Jesus Christ.

[Rom 15:9
9 and that the Gentiles might glorify God for [His] mercy, as it is written: "For this reason I will confess to You among the Gentiles, And sing to Your name."
[Phl 2:11
11 and [that] every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ [is] Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
[1Jo 4:3
3 and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the [spirit] of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world.

Jacob
July 14th, 2017, 01:02 PM
I said
lol Where do you come up with all these phoney excuses? What I showed you was that justice in the old testament is different than the new testament justice. Your justice is the 6666.
Shalom.

You are wrong.

Shalom.

Jacob

Squeaky
July 14th, 2017, 01:53 PM
Shalom.

You are wrong.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
lol And your an idiot.

Ktoyou
July 14th, 2017, 01:56 PM
I said
lol And your an idiot.

You are BOTH a couple of goofballs with nothing better to do.:mmph:

Squeaky
July 14th, 2017, 02:11 PM
You are BOTH a couple of goofballs with nothing better to do.:mmph:

I said
lol

Be nice. I have asked him not to even post on my threads. He is to weird for me. In one post he says he doesn't understand, then in the next one he says I'm wrong. He says I'm wrong and doesn't give any reason why. He says he doesn't understand and doesn't ask any questions. He is weird. But he insists on dictating to me the old testament which is obsolete. He is weird.

Jacob
July 14th, 2017, 02:17 PM
I said
lol And your an idiot.Shalom.

No. A person who tells you the truth is not an idiot. What is an idiot.

Shalom.

Jacob

Squeaky
July 14th, 2017, 02:35 PM
Shalom.

No. A person who tells you the truth is not an idiot. What is an idiot.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
ROFLOL That is called an oxymoron. If you have to ask what is an idiot, that means you don't know what an idiot is. If you don't know what an idiot is you cant claim that you are not one.

Jacob
July 14th, 2017, 03:00 PM
I said
lol

Be nice. I have asked him not to even post on my threads. He is to weird for me. In one post he says he doesn't understand, then in the next one he says I'm wrong. He says I'm wrong and doesn't give any reason why. He says he doesn't understand and doesn't ask any questions. He is weird. But he insists on dictating to me the old testament which is obsolete. He is weird.
Shalom.

I have asked you what you think or believe the old testament is, and I do not know your answer. How you can even think what you said here or what you are thinking now, and be correct, I do not know. But you have incorrectly argued against Matthew 5:17-19. That you were arguing against it was obvious. There is something wrong with what you are or were thinking. Why do you say that I do not believe the new testament, when it is your term for some scripture, when I accept the New Covenant God made in Jesus for the house of Israel and the house of Judah, God's law written on minds and hearts, and accept Jesus' words in Matthew 5:17-19 as for me, also in that I am of Israel as a proselyte and a convert at least (possibly by birth though my parents have once told me that they are not Jewish), and... well, you have inferred that you can have a definition of justice that is correct apart from God's Law. Are you just not agreeing with the things that I am saying, or are you wrong or trying to prove me wrong? When you laugh at what I say and you argue against God and Jesus I am legitimately, honestly, sincerely, and justifiably concerned for you. Are you not familiar with God's Law or the Law of the United States of America at this point, do you belong to a nation different from one of these, are you not a citizen of Israel or the United States of America, do you live or not live in one of these countries, and why do you think that forgiving someone brings them justice? Do you think or believe that it brings you justice? Have you ever sinned against anyone? I have. I have asked for forgiveness. But this does not mean that God, a Court, a Judge, leaders at the churches I used to attend or the Jewish Congregation that I currently attend, or my parents, would not, could not, or will not, punish me for the wrong that I have done, the sin that I have committed. We hope for God's mercy, but feelings are different from justice. You need the grace of God that you would be saved. You need faith in God and in Jesus Christ, Yeshua HaMashiach, the Messiah, and in the gospel. Repent and believe the gospel. Have faith in God. May He save you from the error of your ways. Find salvation in God. Repent, have faith, and be baptized for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. May you live a righteous and blameless life before God and your fellow man. May you testify to the truth of what you have done, and with time if God allows, explain the truth of the gospel, the gospel of truth, the gospel of Jesus Christ, to others as God permits or according to how God allows. You said that you believe that I cannot help you. If no one can help you, and you need help, then who will help you? Call out to God in the name of Jesus Christ, and you will be saved. May the LORD, Yahveh, bless you and forgive you of your sins. May you be judged for all that you have done that is against God's Law. May you know God's forgiveness and mercy in Jesus Christ. Turn yourself in for what you have done. Do you believe yourself to be beyond forgiveness? You may die for your sin, or there may be some other punishment depending on what you have done. You need God's forgiveness. Salvation is a free gift, but God will judge you for everything that you have done. Blessed is the man whose sin or is it iniquity, God will not take into account. You will be judged for everything that you have done. You will have to give an account for everything that you have done, even until judgment day, even every idle word.

Shalom.

Jacob

Jacob
July 14th, 2017, 03:09 PM
I said
ROFLOL That is called an oxymoron. If you have to ask what is an idiot, that means you don't know what an idiot is. If you don't know what an idiot is you cant claim that you are not one.

Shalom.

I do know that someone who tells the truth is not an idiot. But people often do not like what others say so they call them an idiot, thinking, apparently, that it will help or release their own self, from guilt, condemnation, and punishment. Also, you may be found guilty of the crimes that you have commited, by a court. If you have guilt as a feeling is different than if a court finds you guilty. Whatever happens, testify to the truth, but repent. May you be granted repentance, and pay for the crimes that you have committed. As for now, you have been hiding, evading, and running from God, with the scripture that you have twisted as your shield.

Shalom.

Jacob

Squeaky
July 14th, 2017, 04:00 PM
[QUOTE=Jacob;5063358]Shalom.

I have asked you what you think or believe the old testament is, and I do not know your answer. How you can even think what you said here or what you are thinking now, and be correct, I do not know. But you have incorrectly argued against Matthew 5:17-19. That you were arguing against it was obvious. There is something wrong with what you are or were thinking. Why do you say that I do not believe the new testament, when it is your term for some scripture, when I accept the New Covenant God made in Jesus for the house of Israel and the house of Judah, God's law written on minds and hearts, and accept Jesus' words in Matthew 5:17-19 as for me, also in that I am of Israel as a proselyte and a convert at least (possibly by birth though my parents have once told me that they are not Jewish), and... well, you have inferred that you can have a definition of justice that is correct apart from God's Law. Are you just not agreeing with the things that I am saying, or are you wrong or trying to prove me wrong? When you laugh at what I say and you argue against God and Jesus I am legitimately, honestly, sincerely, and justifiably concerned for you.

I said
You play this dumb act all the time. The definition of justice that I showed you is out of a bible dictionary. Strong's dictionary. you want to portray it as mine. It isn't. Its a bible dictionary. Your a liar when you say you believe Jesus and the new testament.

[Heb 8:13
13 In that He says, "A new [covenant]," He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.

Do you believe the old testament is obsolete? No you don't

[Heb 7:12, 18
12 For the priesthood being changed, of necessity there is also a change of the law. ... 18 For on the one hand there is an annulling of the former commandment because of its weakness and unprofitableness,

Do you believe Jesus changed the law? No you don't.

Do you believe Jesus annulled the old commandments? No you don't

18 For on the one hand there is an annulling of the former commandment because of its weakness and unprofitableness,

You lie, every time I post something that convicts you, you play dumb, and say you don't understand.

Squeaky
July 14th, 2017, 04:12 PM
Shalom.

I do know that someone who tells the truth is not an idiot. But people often do not like what others say so they call them an idiot, thinking, apparently, that it will help or release their own self, from guilt, condemnation, and punishment. Also, you may be found guilty of the crimes that you have commited, by a court. If you have guilt as a feeling is different than if a court finds you guilty. Whatever happens, testify to the truth, but repent. May you be granted repentance, and pay for the crimes that you have committed. As for now, you have been hiding, evading, and running from God, with the scripture that you have twisted as your shield.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
Your an idiot you don't know the truth. I am trying to share the truth with you. Your an unlearned and unstable person. Who perverts the gospel of Jesus.

2 Pet 3:16
16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
(KJV)

This is the definition of the word idiot, and unlearned. And that is what you are. This definition is from Strongs dictionary, a bible dictionary.

2399 idiotes (id-ee-o'-tace);

from 2398; a private person, i.e. (by implication) an ignoramus (compare "idiot"):

KJV-- ignorant, rude, unlearned.

Jacob
July 14th, 2017, 04:51 PM
Shalom.


I said
You play this dumb act all the time. The definition of justice that I showed you is out of a bible dictionary. Strong's dictionary. you want to portray it as mine. It isn't. Its a bible dictionary. Your a liar when you say you believe Jesus and the new testament.
I do believe Jesus. I am a New Covenant believer, though I am a Jew, and the new covenant is for the house of Israel and the house of Judah. I do not know what you mean by the new testament. I do know that you did not indicate that you accept Jesus' words in Matthew 5:17-19, even if for you.



[Heb 8:13
13 In that He says, "A new [covenant]," He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.

Do you believe the old testament is obsolete? No you don't
What covenant is obsolete, and when? Or what covenant is obsolete and when? What does He made the first obsolete mean, and what do the words Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away mean? Was it becoming obsolete before God's announcement through the prophet Jeremiah? Was it becoming obsolete when it was made? Is it obsolete? If so, when was it becoming obsolete and when was it obsolete? If not, was it becoming obsolete when the writer of Hebrews penned the words? Jesus did not come to abolish the Law or the Prophets. He said that if you keep and teach the Commandments you will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.


[Heb 7:12, 18
12 For the priesthood being changed, of necessity there is also a change of the law. ... 18 For on the one hand there is an annulling of the former commandment because of its weakness and unprofitableness,

Do you believe Jesus changed the law? No you don't.

Correct. There was a change of the law. Jesus did not change the law.


Do you believe Jesus annulled the old commandments? No you don't

18 For on the one hand there is an annulling of the former commandment because of its weakness and unprofitableness,

Correct. It says that there is an annulling of the former commandment, it does not say Jesus annulled the old commandments, which is what you say, said, or are indicating or saying that I have said or implied. You must read what you read in context, rather than select a verse and attempt to teach it out of context.


You lie, every time I post something that convicts you, you play dumb, and say you don't understand.
A lot of what you post I do not understand. If I believe that you are wrong I either say no or teach you or share the truth with you.

Shalom.

Jacob

Jacob
July 14th, 2017, 05:03 PM
I said
Your an idiot you don't know the truth. I am trying to share the truth with you. Your an unlearned and unstable person. Who perverts the gospel of Jesus.

2 Pet 3:16
16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
(KJV)

This is the definition of the word idiot, and unlearned. And that is what you are. This definition is from Strongs dictionary, a bible dictionary.

2399 idiotes (id-ee-o'-tace);

from 2398; a private person, i.e. (by implication) an ignoramus (compare "idiot"):

KJV-- ignorant, rude, unlearned.
Shalom.

You are incorrect. And I am public enough to become the President of the United States of America some day. I can also be a Rabbi. And, I may make aliyah. I am a Jew, of Israel, as a proselyte and a convert to Judaism and Israel. I am also a citizen of the United States of America. I was born here. Birth and residence in the United States of America are required in order to be, to become, the President of the United States of America. I am a resident of the State of Washington, in the United States of America. I live in Lakewood, Washington, where I am a resident also at Seeley Lake Lodge. I am 36 years old, though as a Jew I observe the Jewish calendar, beginning with that which is found in Torah. A person must be 35 years old before they can be elected President of the United States of America.

Shalom.

Jacob

Squeaky
July 14th, 2017, 05:08 PM
Shalom.

You are incorrect. And I am public enough to become the President of the United States of America some day. I can also be a Rabbi. And, I may make aliyah. I am a Jew, of Israel, as a proselyte and a convert to Judaism and Israel. I am also a citizen of the United States of America. I was born here. Birth and residence in the United States of America are required in order to be, to become, the President of the United States of America. I am a resident of the State of Washington, in the United States of America. I live in Lakewood, Washington, where I am a resident also at Seeley Lake Lodge. I am 36 years old, though as a Jew I observe the Jewish calendar, beginning with that which is found in Torah. A person must be 35 years old before they can be elected President of the United States of America.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
lolol Who cares. More of that camouflage. I never ask you anything about yourself. lol But I'm used to you going off on a tangent like this to avoid the truth.

Jacob
July 14th, 2017, 05:11 PM
I said
lolol Who cares. More of that camouflage. I never ask you anything about yourself. lol But I'm used to you going off on a tangent like this to avoid the truth.
Shalom.

Are you asking about the Judge that does not accept camouflage as an excuse for anything that has been done that is wrong?

Shalom.

Jacob

Squeaky
July 14th, 2017, 05:18 PM
Shalom.

Are you asking about the Judge that does not accept camouflage as an excuse for anything that has been done that is wrong?

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
I didn't say anything about a judge. There is an old saying that its better to let people think your an idiot. Then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

Jacob
July 14th, 2017, 05:30 PM
I said
I didn't say anything about a judge. There is an old saying that its better to let people think your an idiot. Then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
Shalom.

Maybe you call people idiots so that you can still be wrong while not having to hear any more from the person that is telling you the truth, thinking that you can then get them to shut their mouth. If you haven't done anything wrong, I still don't understand why you would ever want to call anyone an idiot ever again. I do not know if this is what you mean by your explanation here. Are you explaining what you have done or are you trying to get me to shut my mouth by saying that if I do so you will no longer call me an idiot? That is akin to bribery. But you have been a bully not a Judge.

Shalom.

Jacob

Squeaky
July 14th, 2017, 06:26 PM
Shalom.

Maybe you call people idiots so that you can still be wrong while not having to hear any more from the person that is telling you the truth, thinking that you can then get them to shut their mouth. If you haven't done anything wrong, I still don't understand why you would ever want to call anyone an idiot ever again. I do not know if this is what you mean by your explanation here. Are you explaining what you have done or are you trying to get me to shut my mouth by saying that if I do so you will no longer call me an idiot? That is akin to bribery. But you have been a bully not a Judge.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
lolol I don't play what if, maybe, almost games. If I give you something the Holy Spirit led me to try and help you. Idiot is a biblical term. The Holy Spirit only gives it to me for people that are trapped in their imagination. Like you. And you have proved that your in your imagination with your reply of maybe. That means you don't know so your guessing. If you get off in your imagination the devil will give you all kinds of maybe's, and what if's.
[2Co 10:3-5
3 For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh:
4 (For the weapons of our warfare [are] not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;)
5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;

Jacob
July 14th, 2017, 08:16 PM
I said
lolol I don't play what if, maybe, almost games. If I give you something the Holy Spirit led me to try and help you. Idiot is a biblical term. The Holy Spirit only gives it to me for people that are trapped in their imagination. Like you. And you have proved that your in your imagination with your reply of maybe. That means you don't know so your guessing. If you get off in your imagination the devil will give you all kinds of maybe's, and what if's.
[2Co 10:3-5
3 For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh:
4 (For the weapons of our warfare [are] not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;)
5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;

Shalom.

Can you correctly use the word if?

Shalom.

Jacob

Squeaky
July 14th, 2017, 08:25 PM
Shalom.

Can you correctly use the word if?

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
lol Your an idiot.

Jacob
July 14th, 2017, 08:43 PM
I said
lol Your an idiot.Shalom.

No. I chose to speak English as a child.

Shalom.

Jacob

Squeaky
July 15th, 2017, 03:27 AM
Shalom.

No. I chose to speak English as a child.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
lol I know, you are a child in understanding. Children have no business trying to teach. They only mess up the truth. All Children are idiots until they have learned the truth. You are full of lies and guile.

[1Co 13:11
11 When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child; but when I became a man, I put away childish things.

For some reason your just to ignorant to see that you are fighting against Jesus
Christ. Everything you say is blasphemy against Jesus. Jesus came to deliver the Jews out of the deceptions of satan in the old testament. Your trying to make Jesus out to be a liar.
Jesus changed the law, you say Jesus is lying.
Jesus made the old testament obsolete, you say Jesus is a liar.
Jesus annulled the old commandments, you say Jesus is a liar.

[Heb 8:13
13 In that He says, "A new [covenant]," He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.

[Heb 7:12, 18
12 For the priesthood being changed, of necessity there is also a change of the law. ...
18 For on the one hand there is an annulling of the former commandment because of its weakness and unprofitableness,

Squeaky
July 15th, 2017, 08:46 AM
Shalom.

No. I chose to speak English as a child.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
When you say no to one of the verses I post from the new testament. You are saying no to what Jesus taught. When you say no to one of the verses I post from the new testament you are saying the new testament is wrong and that you are right. When you disagree with one of the new testament verses you are saying you don't believe the new testament and Jesus.

Squeaky
July 15th, 2017, 05:53 PM
[Act 15:24
24 Since we have heard that some who went out from us have troubled you with words, unsettling your souls, saying, "[You must] be circumcised and keep the law"--to whom we gave no [such] commandment--
[Gal 6:13
13 For not even those who are circumcised keep the law, but they desire to have you circumcised that they may boast in your flesh.

Squeaky
July 15th, 2017, 08:02 PM
The Jews are Christ hating heretics. They are all one of two things: 1) a Christian hating liberal atheist OR 2) A Judaic practicing, Christian hating conservative bent on Zion.


For all the MADists here, prove to me otherwise.

Seriously

You're all crazy
:rolleyes:

I said
You shouldn't be to hard on them. God is going to call them back one day.

Rom 11:22-29
22 Therefore consider the goodness and severity of God: on those who fell, severity; but toward you, goodness, if you continue in His goodness. Otherwise you also will be cut off.
23 And they also, if they do not continue in unbelief, will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again.
24 For if you were cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and were grafted contrary to nature into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these, who are natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree?
25 For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in.
26 And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written: "The Deliverer will come out of Zion, and He will turn away ungodliness from Jacob;
27 For this is My covenant with them, when I take away their sins."
28 Concerning the gospel they are enemies for your sake, but concerning the election they are beloved for the sake of the fathers.
29 For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.
(NKJ)

chair
July 15th, 2017, 09:55 PM
The Jews are Christ hating heretics. They are all one of two things: 1) a Christian hating liberal atheist OR 2) A Judaic practicing, Christian hating conservative bent on Zion.

:rolleyes:

No. You clearly don't know anything about Jews. We generally don't care about Jesus one way or the other. Some like him. We can't possibly be heretics (look up the word in a dictionary).

#1 and #2 are so weird I don't even know where to start.

Please read up on the Jews, from some normal (i.e. not antisemitic) source. Even the Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews) will teach you alot.

chair
July 15th, 2017, 10:42 PM
:doh:

I mean,
damn

It speaks for itself
MADISTS

Pay attention. Jews are not Christians. So Jesus is not a central part of our lives, or any part at all. I don't even know exactly what "MAD" means in Christian circles.

chair
July 15th, 2017, 10:55 PM
Well this site it ruled by a bunch of Mid Acts Dispensationalists who, for nonsense reasons, love them some Israel.

But you've been here long enough to know that; don't insult my intelligence :Plain:

I don't know about who secretly runs this site. I do know who the Jews are- and it is about time you found out as well.

As far as insulting your intelligence- that would be hard to do.

Chair.

chair
July 16th, 2017, 12:02 AM
That's you- you're Jewish

Finally one correct statement. Yes , I am a Jew. Now go read up on the Jews, and you'll find out what that means.

chair
July 16th, 2017, 12:12 AM
I know everything about the Jews. From Isaac to Christ, and the 2000 years following :Plain:

Based on your statements in this thread, you know very little about us. And that is being generous.

chair
July 16th, 2017, 12:34 AM
The Jews are Christ hating heretics. They are all one of two things: 1) a Christian hating liberal atheist OR 2) A Judaic practicing, Christian hating conservative bent on Zion.


I say that you are ignorant regarding the Jews based on statements like the above.

We do not "reject" Jesus, and more than you reject the Goddess Mazu. He isn't important to us (except in the context of how Christians relate to Jews).

Belief in Jesus is not some automatic default position, so anybody who doesn't believe has "rejected" him. He is simply irrelevant. We keep our traditions. And he is not part of that.

chair
July 16th, 2017, 12:39 AM
Yeah, based on what?
That you don't like what I have to say?
Answered above


How about 'based on your statements'- you just declared that you reject Jesus;

No, I did NOT say anything like that.


by extension, as a Judaic person, you also believe that his crucifixion was warranted.
No. You are generalizing based on some anti-Jewish sentiment. I don't have an opinion whether it was justified. I don't even think about it. Why should I? Nor do I think about the hundreds of others crucified back then. I do feel sorry for him- awful way to die.


Jesus is the Christian God, you realize that right?

Yes. For some Christians, at least. To me a man-god is pagan, and completely against our traditions- including those recorded in the Old Testament.

chair
July 16th, 2017, 12:48 AM
You all simply pretend like he's insignificant- nobody to be worried about.
Who is, who, Jeebus?

That's yall, and I see you all's facade in a country you know damn well to be a predominantly Christian nation.

You're all no different from Muslims or Hindus, but even they have more respect for Christ than you- that's what trips me out about many people in general- they are just too deluded by this world and not enough to God_

He is significant historically to everybody. And religiously to Christians. But not to non-Christians. Why is that so difficult to follow?

I respect other people's beliefs. You apparently don't.

chair
July 16th, 2017, 01:55 AM
The Jews keep feminism and homosexuality.

All you have to do is turn THE DAMN TV

:chuckle: I don't think I can get over that

You are generalizing, as bigots often do.

chair
July 16th, 2017, 02:10 AM
Well the Jewish media sure as hell generalizes us- you see, I'm the bigot :rolleyes:

But you don't have anything to say about that- hooray to the white-killers

Let's snipe out white people and jump in front of highways- anything that will absolutely piss off white people, let's do it
And then act like bunch of girls when they get ran over and shot back at.

:Plain:

I've got no idea what you are rambling about.

chair
July 16th, 2017, 02:59 AM
That's basically what I expected, good luck manipulating every1 else :wave2:

I really don't know what that was all-about. "white-killers"? "snipe"? "jump out"? "piss off white people"?
What has this to do with me or this thread? What are you referring to?

Squeaky
July 16th, 2017, 05:28 AM
We are the Jews that God is going to call.

That is what MADists do not understand- Christ abolished physical race for all those that believe in him. Christianity is New Israel.

I said
I know, but God is still going to call the old testament Jews.
Christianity Is The New Testament Jew

Rom 2:17-29
17 Indeed you are called a Jew, and rest on the law, and make your boast in God,
18 and know His will, and approve the things that are excellent, being instructed out of the law,
19 and are confident that you yourself are a guide to the blind, a light to those who are in darkness,
20 an instructor of the foolish, a teacher of babes, having the form of knowledge and truth in the law.
21 You, therefore, who teach another, do you not teach yourself? You who preach that a man should not steal, do you steal?
22 You who say, "Do not commit adultery," do you commit adultery? You who abhor idols, do you rob temples?
23 You who make your boast in the law, do you dishonor God through breaking the law?
24 For "The name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of you," as it is written.
25 For circumcision is indeed profitable if you keep the law; but if you are a breaker of the law, your circumcision has become uncircumcision.
26 Therefore, if an uncircumcised man keeps the righteous requirements of the law, will not his uncircumcision be counted as circumcision?
27 And will not the physically uncircumcised, if he fulfills the law, judge you who, even with your written code and circumcision, are a transgressor of the law?
28 For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh;
29 but he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the Spirit, not in the letter; whose praise is not from men but from God.
Rom 10:1-4
1 Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is that they may be saved.
2 For I bear them witness that they have a zeal for God, but not according to knowledge.
3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and seeking to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted to the righteousness of God.
4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.
Acts 15:5-11
5 But some of the sect of the Pharisees who believed rose up, saying, "It is necessary to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses."
6 Now the apostles and elders came together to consider this matter.
7 And when there had been much dispute, Peter rose up and said to them: "Men and brethren, you know that a good while ago God chose among us, that by my mouth the Gentiles should hear the word of the gospel and believe.
8 "So God, who knows the heart, acknowledged them by giving them the Holy Spirit, just as He did to us,
9 "and made no distinction between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.
10 "Now therefore, why do you test God by putting a yoke on the neck of the disciples which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?
11 "But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved in the same manner as they."
1 Cor 12:13
13 For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body-- whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free-- and have all been made to drink into one Spirit.
Gal 3:28-29
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
29 And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
(NKJ)

XXX Christianity is following Christ. Christ is calling for all whether Jews or Gentiles to join together in the new testament. The law of Christ and the commandments of Christ. Jesus brought us Jews and Gentiles the NEW word of God. The new testament.


Heb 9:16-18
16 For where there is a testament, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.
17 For a testament is in force after men are dead, since it has no power at all while the testator lives.
18 Therefore not even the first covenant was dedicated without blood.
(NKJ)

2 Cor 3:13-16
13 unlike Moses, who put a veil over his face so that the children of Israel could not look steadily at the end of what was passing away.
14 But their minds were blinded. For until this day the same veil remains unlifted in the reading of the Old Testament, because the veil is taken away in Christ.
15 But even to this day, when Moses is read, a veil lies on their heart.
16 Nevertheless when one turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away.
(NKJ)

Jacob
July 16th, 2017, 02:14 PM
I said
lol I know, you are a child in understanding. Children have no business trying to teach. They only mess up the truth. All Children are idiots until they have learned the truth. You are full of lies and guile.

[1Co 13:11
11 When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child; but when I became a man, I put away childish things.

For some reason your just to ignorant to see that you are fighting against Jesus
Christ. Everything you say is blasphemy against Jesus. Jesus came to deliver the Jews out of the deceptions of satan in the old testament. Your trying to make Jesus out to be a liar.
Jesus changed the law, you say Jesus is lying.
Jesus made the old testament obsolete, you say Jesus is a liar.
Jesus annulled the old commandments, you say Jesus is a liar.

[Heb 8:13
13 In that He says, "A new [covenant]," He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.

[Heb 7:12, 18
12 For the priesthood being changed, of necessity there is also a change of the law. ...
18 For on the one hand there is an annulling of the former commandment because of its weakness and unprofitableness,


I said
When you say no to one of the verses I post from the new testament. You are saying no to what Jesus taught. When you say no to one of the verses I post from the new testament you are saying the new testament is wrong and that you are right. When you disagree with one of the new testament verses you are saying you don't believe the new testament and Jesus.
Shalom.

You are incorrect.

You are wrong.

I am not doing what you are saying that I am doing.

You are without understanding, and wrong in your false accusations.

Shalom.

Jacob

Squeaky
July 16th, 2017, 02:33 PM
Shalom.

You are incorrect.

You are wrong.

I am not doing what you are saying that I am doing.

You are without understanding, and wrong in your false accusations.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said\
lol Your an idiot.

Jacob
July 16th, 2017, 02:41 PM
I said\
lol Your an idiot.Shalom.

No. I know English.

Shalom.

Jacob

Squeaky
July 16th, 2017, 04:14 PM
Shalom.

No. I know English.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
Only an idiot would put value in his own opinion. I prove all that I say with scripture from the Holy Spirit. You have no evidence that you even know the Holy Spirit. No one with the Holy Spirit would ever think there is any value in just saying no.your wrong. your incorrect.
But you throw it around like it has some kind of authority. And it doesn't. You say you don't understand as much as you say no. If you don't understand you cant say no with any authority. You say no to every verse that I give you from the new testament. That is what makes you an idiot.
You have to be the most boring person I have ever talked to on here.

Jacob
July 16th, 2017, 04:30 PM
I said
Only an idiot would put value in his own opinion. I prove all that I say with scripture from the Holy Spirit. You have no evidence that you even know the Holy Spirit. No one with the Holy Spirit would ever think there is any value in just saying no.your wrong. your incorrect.
But you throw it around like it has some kind of authority. And it doesn't. You say you don't understand as much as you say no. If you don't understand you cant say no with any authority. You say no to every verse that I give you from the new testament. That is what makes you an idiot.
You have to be the most boring person I have ever talked to on here.
Shalom.

You are incorrect. You are falsely accusing me again. You are also calling me an idiot. Is it something that I am saying or something that I am not saying? If you were correct I would not need to say anything at all. Now you say that I am boring. I am not here to make things interesting. I am here to help you. There was a change of law. But Jesus did not change the law.

Shalom.

Jacob

Squeaky
July 16th, 2017, 05:07 PM
Shalom.

You are incorrect. You are falsely accusing me again. You are also calling me an idiot. Is it something that I am saying or something that I am not saying? If you were correct I would not need to say anything at all. Now you say that I am boring. I am not here to make things interesting. I am here to help you. There was a change of law. But Jesus did not change the law.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
ROFLOL After all this time, of you saying no, no, no, no, you finally admit there was a change of the law.

Jacob
July 16th, 2017, 05:21 PM
I said
ROFLOL After all this time, of you saying no, no, no, no, you finally admit there was a change of the law.
Shalom.

But not that the Law changed, correct.

Shalom.

Jacob

Squeaky
July 16th, 2017, 05:48 PM
Shalom.

But not that the Law changed, correct.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
ROFLOL Do you have any idea of how ignorant that question is?

Squeaky
July 16th, 2017, 05:53 PM
Shalom.

I am not here to make things interesting. I am here to help you. There was a change of law. But Jesus did not change the law.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
ROFLOL You have never helped me in no way shape or form. The only one that you are helping is satan. Now after talking to you this long I would have to say you have been a lot of help to satan.

Jacob
July 16th, 2017, 07:30 PM
I said
ROFLOL You have never helped me in no way shape or form. The only one that you are helping is satan. Now after talking to you this long I would have to say you have been a lot of help to satan.
Shalom.

Is it possible for anyone to help anyone? Yes.

Shalom.

Jacob

patrick jane
July 16th, 2017, 07:34 PM
Shalom.

Is it possible for anyone to help anyone? Yes.

Shalom.

JacobYou have really helped Squeaky/ I can see the difference.

Squeaky
July 16th, 2017, 07:39 PM
Shalom.

Is it possible for anyone to help anyone? Yes.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
No. One can only help someone if they are received as a helper. Your not. Your working for satan. Whether you know it or not. Your a naysayer. You have a spirit in you that has you pumped up with pride and you deny the truth in the Word of God. Denying something doesn't mean your right for doing it. It just means you don't understand. And you don't. So your easy pray for satan to use.


John 8:44-45
44 "You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it.
45 "But because I tell the truth, you do not believe Me.
(NKJ)


James 1:19
19 So then, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath;
(NKJ)

Jacob
July 16th, 2017, 07:57 PM
I said
No. One can only help someone if they are received as a helper. Your not. Your working for satan. Whether you know it or not. Your a naysayer. You have a spirit in you that has you pumped up with pride and you deny the truth in the Word of God. Denying something doesn't mean your right for doing it. It just means you don't understand. And you don't. So your easy pray for satan to use.


John 8:44-45
44 "You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it.
45 "But because I tell the truth, you do not believe Me.
(NKJ)


James 1:19
19 So then, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath;
(NKJ)Shalom.

What you do should be with understanding.

Shalom.

Jacob

Squeaky
July 16th, 2017, 08:30 PM
Shalom.

What you do should be with understanding.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
You have no understanding. You don't know the Holy Spirit. You don't have the Word abiding in you. You have no business trying to teach the bible. You haven't learned it yet. No one should try to teach the bible until they have the Word abiding in them. That means you shouldn't teach anything that isn't already in your mind, and you can quote it, word for word. Only hypocrites do that.

[Mat 7:3-5
3 "And why do you look at the speck in your brother's eye, but do not consider the plank in your own eye?
4 "Or how can you say to your brother, 'Let me remove the speck from your eye'; and look, a plank [is] in your own eye?
5 "Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.

Jacob
July 16th, 2017, 09:31 PM
I said
You have no understanding. You don't know the Holy Spirit. You don't have the Word abiding in you. You have no business trying to teach the bible. You haven't learned it yet. No one should try to teach the bible until they have the Word abiding in them. That means you shouldn't teach anything that isn't already in your mind, and you can quote it, word for word. Only hypocrites do that.

[Mat 7:3-5
3 "And why do you look at the speck in your brother's eye, but do not consider the plank in your own eye?
4 "Or how can you say to your brother, 'Let me remove the speck from your eye'; and look, a plank [is] in your own eye?
5 "Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.
Shalom.

Only hypocrites do what?

I think that there is something that you do not understand. You are injuring me while cutting me off from what it is while saying that I must do what you do, while you deny the truth. Do you accept Matthew 5:17-19 along with the rest of Scripture? If you do not you have no business teaching. Right now you are messing with my mind and body. I have shared the truth with you in love, but you say that I cannot help you. I beg to differ. Now I can tell you what you are doing to me. Actually, now I can't.

Shalom.

Jacob

patrick jane
July 16th, 2017, 09:36 PM
I said
You have no understanding. You don't know the Holy Spirit. You don't have the Word abiding in you. You have no business trying to teach the bible. You haven't learned it yet. No one should try to teach the bible until they have the Word abiding in them. That means you shouldn't teach anything that isn't already in your mind, and you can quote it, word for word. Only hypocrites do that.

[Mat 7:3-5
3 "And why do you look at the speck in your brother's eye, but do not consider the plank in your own eye?
4 "Or how can you say to your brother, 'Let me remove the speck from your eye'; and look, a plank [is] in your own eye?
5 "Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.You're hurting Jacob :nono:

Squeaky
July 17th, 2017, 07:23 AM
Shalom.

Only hypocrites do what?

I think that there is something that you do not understand. You are injuring me while cutting me off from what it is while saying that I must do what you do, while you deny the truth. Do you accept Matthew 5:17-19 along with the rest of Scripture? If you do not you have no business teaching. Right now you are messing with my mind and body. I have shared the truth with you in love, but you say that I cannot help you. I beg to differ. Now I can tell you what you are doing to me. Actually, now I can't.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
You are a hypocrite. Context, context, context. This is talking to Christians. It is saying even though the new testament is making the old testament obsolete to Christians it is still in affect for the rest of the world. It doesn't destroy the law it only delivers Christians from the law. The rest of the world is still going to be judged by the old testament law. Jesus fulfilled the law and He has taught us how to fulfill the law. So that we are not under the old testament law.


Matt 5:14-22
14 "You are the light of the world. A city that is set on a hill cannot be hidden.
15 "Nor do they light a lamp and put it under a basket, but on a lampstand, and it gives light to all who are in the house.
16 "Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works and glorify your Father in heaven.
17 "Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill.
18 "For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled.
19 "Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
20 "For I say to you, that unless your righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven.
21 "You have heard that it was said to those of old, 'You shall not murder,' and whoever murders will be in danger of the judgment.
22 "But I say to you that whoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment. And whoever says to his brother, 'Raca!' shall be in danger of the council. But whoever says, 'You fool!' shall be in danger of hell fire.
(NKJ)

Christians abide in the new testament law of Christ. But any Christian who tries to be justified by the old testament law has fallen from grace.

Gal 5:1-4

1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free, and do not be entangled again with a yoke of bondage.
2 Indeed I, Paul, say to you that if you become circumcised, Christ will profit you nothing.
3 And I testify again to every man who becomes circumcised that he is a debtor to keep the whole law.
4 You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace.
(NKJ)

The new testament is the law of Christ, Jesus Changed the law, annulled the former commandments, made the old testament obsolete.

Heb 8:13
13 In that He says, "A new covenant," He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.
(NKJ)

Heb 7:12
12 For the priesthood being changed, of necessity there is also a change of the law.
(NKJ)

Heb 7:18
18 For on the one hand there is an annulling of the former commandment because of its weakness and unprofitableness,
(NKJ)

Squeaky
July 17th, 2017, 07:25 AM
You're hurting Jacob :nono:

I said
The truth is hurting Jacob. He is an antichrist by teaching the old testament law. And he has fallen from grace.

daqq
July 17th, 2017, 09:53 AM
I said
The truth is hurting Jacob. He is an antichrist by teaching the old testament law. And he has fallen from grace.

Lol, even according to Paul it is exactly the opposite of what you say!
THE LAWLESS ONE is the man of sin or son of perdition:

2 Thessalonians 2:8 W/H
8 και τοτε αποκαλυφθησεται ο ανομος [G#459] ον ο κυριος [ιησους] ανελει τω πνευματι του στοματος αυτου και καταργησει τη επιφανεια της παρουσιας αυτου

How can anyone not understand HO ANOMOS? Or is it that you CHOOSE to put your faith and trust in the translations of clearly biased men who hate the Law just as you do? :chuckle:

Jacob
July 17th, 2017, 10:04 AM
I said
You are a hypocrite. Context, context, context. This is talking to Christians. It is saying even though the new testament is making the old testament obsolete to Christians it is still in affect for the rest of the world. It doesn't destroy the law it only delivers Christians from the law. The rest of the world is still going to be judged by the old testament law. Jesus fulfilled the law and He has taught us how to fulfill the law. So that we are not under the old testament law.


Matt 5:14-22
14 "You are the light of the world. A city that is set on a hill cannot be hidden.
15 "Nor do they light a lamp and put it under a basket, but on a lampstand, and it gives light to all who are in the house.
16 "Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works and glorify your Father in heaven.
17 "Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill.
18 "For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled.
19 "Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
20 "For I say to you, that unless your righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven.
21 "You have heard that it was said to those of old, 'You shall not murder,' and whoever murders will be in danger of the judgment.
22 "But I say to you that whoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment. And whoever says to his brother, 'Raca!' shall be in danger of the council. But whoever says, 'You fool!' shall be in danger of hell fire.
(NKJ)

Christians abide in the new testament law of Christ. But any Christian who tries to be justified by the old testament law has fallen from grace.

Gal 5:1-4

1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free, and do not be entangled again with a yoke of bondage.
2 Indeed I, Paul, say to you that if you become circumcised, Christ will profit you nothing.
3 And I testify again to every man who becomes circumcised that he is a debtor to keep the whole law.
4 You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace.
(NKJ)

The new testament is the law of Christ, Jesus Changed the law, annulled the former commandments, made the old testament obsolete.

Heb 8:13
13 In that He says, "A new covenant," He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.
(NKJ)

Heb 7:12
12 For the priesthood being changed, of necessity there is also a change of the law.
(NKJ)

Heb 7:18
18 For on the one hand there is an annulling of the former commandment because of its weakness and unprofitableness,
(NKJ)
Shalom.

There are many things wrong with what you are saying. I do not see one thing that is right or correct. You have misused and misapplied Scripture as well.

I am not under the Law, I am under grace. But I obey God's Commandments found in the Law, and as a Jew I accept the New Covenant, God's law written on minds and hearts for the house of Israel and the house of Judah, as for me.

Shalom.

Jacob

Squeaky
July 17th, 2017, 10:09 AM
Shalom.

There are many things wrong with what you are saying. I do not see one thing that is right or correct. You have misused and misapplied Scripture as well.

I am not under the Law, I am under grace. But I obey God's Commandments found in the Law, and as a Jew I accept the New Covenant, God's law written on minds and hearts for the house of Israel and the house of Judah, as for me.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
lol Again you reject Jesus. And your trying to be justified by the law. You have fallen from grace.
Your an idiot.
And an antichrist.

Jacob
July 17th, 2017, 10:30 AM
I said
lol Again you reject Jesus. And your trying to be justified by the law. You have fallen from grace.
Your an idiot.
And an antichrist.
Shalom.

None of what you said here is true. Everything that you said here is false.

Shalom.

Jacob

Squeaky
July 17th, 2017, 11:22 AM
Shalom.

None of what you said here is true. Everything that you said here is false.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
lol You know its true.

Jacob
July 17th, 2017, 12:13 PM
I said
lol You know its true.Shalom.

No. It is not. You are lying. I am not lying to say that what you have said here is not true, that it is false, that it came from you, that you are now laughing at me, about me, about my denial of what you are saying is true when I know that it is not. When you lie it hurts other people, like me, and not just me. You are against God and contrary to His will and purpose, even to include for you.

You know that Matthew 5:17-19 is true. Now do not speak against it. If you do then you are speaking against Jesus, and God, and you are anti-Christ. If I knew what you are saying to be true, then I would accept it. But I do not, and now you are ribbing me. You are incorrect. What you are thinking is not true, demonstrated by your words in what you have said which I know to be false. If I knew what you were saying to be true, then you would not be lying. But I know that it is not true. So, therefore, I know that you are lying, and that you are lying to me. So quit lying, accept the truth, and do not manipulate and use deceptive means to protect yourself from God and get your own way.

Shalom.

Jacob

Squeaky
July 17th, 2017, 01:08 PM
Shalom.

No. It is not. You are lying. I am not lying to say that what you have said here is not true, that it is false, that it came from you, that you are now laughing at me, about me, about my denial of what you are saying is true when I know that it is not. When you lie it hurts other people, like me, and not just me. You are against God and contrary to His will and purpose, even to include for you.

You know that Matthew 5:17-19 is true. Now do not speak against it. If you do then you are speaking against Jesus, and God, and you are anti-Christ. If I knew what you are saying to be true, then I would accept it. But I do not, and now you are ribbing me. You are incorrect. What you are thinking is not true, demonstrated by your words in what you have said which I know to be false. If I knew what you were saying to be true, then you would not be lying. But I know that it is not true. So, therefore, I know that you are lying, and that you are lying to me. So quit lying, accept the truth, and do not manipulate and use deceptive means to protect yourself from God and get your own way.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
I can show it to you again and again because it is true. The only problem is you wouldn't believe Jesus. So you were kicked out of Christianity. And the devil is using you as an antichrist.
said
You are a hypocrite. Context, context, context. This is talking to Christians. It is saying even though the new testament is making the old testament obsolete to Christians it is still in affect for the rest of the world. It doesn't destroy the law it only delivers Christians from the law. The rest of the world is still going to be judged by the old testament law. Jesus fulfilled the law and He has taught us how to fulfill the law. So that we are not under the old testament law.


Matt 5:14-22
14 "You are the light of the world. A city that is set on a hill cannot be hidden.
15 "Nor do they light a lamp and put it under a basket, but on a lampstand, and it gives light to all who are in the house.
16 "Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works and glorify your Father in heaven.
17 "Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill.
18 "For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled.
19 "Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
20 "For I say to you, that unless your righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven.
21 "You have heard that it was said to those of old, 'You shall not murder,' and whoever murders will be in danger of the judgment.
22 "But I say to you that whoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment. And whoever says to his brother, 'Raca!' shall be in danger of the council. But whoever says, 'You fool!' shall be in danger of hell fire.
(NKJ)

Squeaky
July 17th, 2017, 01:10 PM
I posted a lot of revelations all about you. One on two covenants one on old testament and new testament not both. And one on how you have fallen from grace. Hundreds of verses all from Jesus showing you how you are wrong. How you have become an antichrist.

Jacob
July 17th, 2017, 01:34 PM
I said
I can show it to you again and again because it is true. The only problem is you wouldn't believe Jesus. So you were kicked out of Christianity. And the devil is using you as an antichrist.
said
You are a hypocrite. Context, context, context. This is talking to Christians. It is saying even though the new testament is making the old testament obsolete to Christians it is still in affect for the rest of the world. It doesn't destroy the law it only delivers Christians from the law. The rest of the world is still going to be judged by the old testament law. Jesus fulfilled the law and He has taught us how to fulfill the law. So that we are not under the old testament law.


Matt 5:14-22
14 "You are the light of the world. A city that is set on a hill cannot be hidden.
15 "Nor do they light a lamp and put it under a basket, but on a lampstand, and it gives light to all who are in the house.
16 "Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works and glorify your Father in heaven.
17 "Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill.
18 "For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled.
19 "Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
20 "For I say to you, that unless your righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven.
21 "You have heard that it was said to those of old, 'You shall not murder,' and whoever murders will be in danger of the judgment.
22 "But I say to you that whoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment. And whoever says to his brother, 'Raca!' shall be in danger of the council. But whoever says, 'You fool!' shall be in danger of hell fire.
(NKJ)


I posted a lot of revelations all about you. One on two covenants one on old testament and new testament not both. And one on how you have fallen from grace. Hundreds of verses all from Jesus showing you how you are wrong. How you have become an antichrist.
Shalom.

You are incorrect. I accepted Jesus at a young age. I have not rejected Jesus. I do not know where you are getting your information, but you are wrong.

Shalom.

Jacob

Squeaky
July 17th, 2017, 02:24 PM
Shalom.

You are incorrect. I accepted Jesus at a young age. I have not rejected Jesus. I do not know where you are getting your information, but you are wrong.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
You rejected Jesus when you started teaching the old testament law. You blaspheme against Jesus every time you say no to a new testament verse. you are an antichrist.

Jacob
July 17th, 2017, 02:40 PM
I said
You rejected Jesus when you started teaching the old testament law. You blaspheme against Jesus every time you say no to a new testament verse. you are an antichrist.

Shalom.

No. You are incorrect. Jesus instructed me to keep and teach the Commandments of the Law, basically, in Matthew 5:17-19

Squeaky
July 17th, 2017, 02:56 PM
Shalom.

No. You are incorrect. Jesus instructed me to keep and teach the Commandments of the Law, basically, in Matthew 5:17-19

I said
Your an idiot. It says until all is fulfilled. Jesus fulfilled the law. He taught us how to fulfill the law. Apparently you haven't fulfilled the law yet. Ofcourse you cant because you keep saying no to Jesus and the new testament. All born again Christians have fulfilled the law. They done it with the law of Christ. But you keep saying no to Christ. And you keep working for satan.

[Mat 5:17-18
17 "Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill.
18 "For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled.

Squeaky
July 17th, 2017, 03:02 PM
Shalom.

No. You are incorrect. Jesus instructed me to keep and teach the Commandments of the Law, basically, in Matthew 5:17-19

I said\
Remember you have fallen from grace. Now your in bondage to the whole old testament law.

[Gal 5:3-4
3 And I testify again to every man who becomes circumcised that he is a debtor to keep the whole law.
4 You have become estranged from Christ, you who [attempt to] be justified by law; you have fallen from grace.

Jacob
July 17th, 2017, 04:22 PM
I said
Your an idiot. It says until all is fulfilled. Jesus fulfilled the law. He taught us how to fulfill the law. Apparently you haven't fulfilled the law yet. Ofcourse you cant because you keep saying no to Jesus and the new testament. All born again Christians have fulfilled the law. They done it with the law of Christ. But you keep saying no to Christ. And you keep working for satan.

[Mat 5:17-18
17 "Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill.
18 "For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled.


I said\
Remember you have fallen from grace. Now your in bondage to the whole old testament law.

[Gal 5:3-4
3 And I testify again to every man who becomes circumcised that he is a debtor to keep the whole law.
4 You have become estranged from Christ, you who [attempt to] be justified by law; you have fallen from grace.
Shalom.

I have not said no to Christ, and I am not attempting to be justified by the law

To fulfill the Law is to observe it, to keep it, to obey it. We do this by the Spirit of God. But it is a choice that you have to make, to obey. If the Spirit of God dwells in you then you will want to, and you will, obey the things of God, God's Commandments. This is more than falling short in some way. It is more than not knowing if you are fulfilling the Law, even though Jesus already did it for you. Jesus did not come to abolish the Law or the Prophets, but to fulfill. Jesus was an offering for sin, and He condemned sin in the flesh, so that the requirement of the Law might be fulfilled in us, who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. Are you born again, born of the Spirit?

Shalom.

Jacob

Squeaky
July 17th, 2017, 05:08 PM
Shalom.

I have not said no to Christ, and I am not attempting to be justified by the law

To fulfill the Law is to observe it, to keep it, to obey it. We do this by the Spirit of God. But it is a choice that you have to make, to obey. If the Spirit of God dwells in you then you will want to, and you will, obey the things of God, God's Commandments. This is more than falling short in some way. It is more than not knowing if you are fulfilling the Law, even though Jesus already did it for you. Jesus did not come to abolish the Law or the Prophets, but to fulfill. Jesus was an offering for sin, and He condemned sin in the flesh, so that the requirement of the Law might be fulfilled in us, who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. Are you born again, born of the Spirit?

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
Your an idiot. Saying no to Jesus or disagreeing with Jesus is blasphemy. And yes when you stand up for the old testament law and teach it. You are trying to be justified by it.


Jesus says the old covenant(testament) is obsolete. You said no, it is not obsolete.

[Heb 8:13
13 In that He says, "A new [covenant]," He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.

Jesus says He changed the law. You say no He didn't change the law. Your speaking against Jesus.

[Heb 7:12, 18
12 For the priesthood being changed, of necessity there is also a change of the law. ...

Jesus says He annulled the old commandments , you say no He didn't annul the former commandments.

18 For on the one hand there is an annulling of the former commandment because of its weakness and unprofitableness,

Jesus says all who ever came before Him are thieves and robbers. You say no that is not true.

Jhn 10:8
8 "All who [ever] came before Me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not hear them.

Jacob
July 17th, 2017, 05:15 PM
I said
Your an idiot. Saying no to Jesus or disagreeing with Jesus is blasphemy. And yes when you stand up for the old testament law and teach it. You are trying to be justified by it.


Jesus says the old covenant(testament) is obsolete. You said no, it is not obsolete.

[Heb 8:13
13 In that He says, "A new [covenant]," He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.

Jesus says He changed the law. You say no He didn't change the law. Your speaking against Jesus.

[Heb 7:12, 18
12 For the priesthood being changed, of necessity there is also a change of the law. ...

Jesus says He annulled the old commandments , you say no He didn't annul the former commandments.

18 For on the one hand there is an annulling of the former commandment because of its weakness and unprofitableness,

Jesus says all who ever came before Him are thieves and robbers. You say no that is not true.

Jhn 10:8
8 "All who [ever] came before Me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not hear them.

Shalom.

Again, you are incorrect in what you say.

Shalom.

Jacob

Squeaky
July 17th, 2017, 05:36 PM
Shalom.

Again, you are incorrect in what you say.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
You really are an idiot. I have showed you over and over what the new testament says. Jesus died on a cross to bring us the new testament. To deliver us from the old testament. And you are being used by satan to lead people back into the old testament. To put them back under the law. I have shared hundreds of verses to show you that your wrong. And that you are an antichrist. Which you are.
Jesus died on the cross to bring us the new testament. And you keep calling Him a liar.

[Heb 9:15-18
15 And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance.
16 For where there [is] a testament, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.
17 For a testament [is] in force after men are dead, since it has no power at all while the testator lives.
18 Therefore not even the first [covenant] was dedicated without blood.

[Mar 14:24, 27
24 And He said to them, "This is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many. ...
27 Then Jesus said to them, "All of you will be made to stumble because of Me this night, for it is written: 'I will strike the Shepherd, And the sheep will be scattered.'

patrick jane
July 17th, 2017, 05:40 PM
Shalom.

Again, you are incorrect in what you say.

Shalom.

JacobSorry Jake. Squeaks is correct

Jacob
July 17th, 2017, 05:51 PM
Sorry Jake. Squeaks is correctShalom.

You are incorrect.

Shalom.

Jacob

Jacob
July 17th, 2017, 05:54 PM
patrick jane,

My name is Jacob.

Jacob
July 17th, 2017, 05:55 PM
I said
You really are an idiot. I have showed you over and over what the new testament says. Jesus died on a cross to bring us the new testament. To deliver us from the old testament. And you are being used by satan to lead people back into the old testament. To put them back under the law. I have shared hundreds of verses to show you that your wrong. And that you are an antichrist. Which you are.
Jesus died on the cross to bring us the new testament. And you keep calling Him a liar.

[Heb 9:15-18
15 And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance.
16 For where there [is] a testament, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.
17 For a testament [is] in force after men are dead, since it has no power at all while the testator lives.
18 Therefore not even the first [covenant] was dedicated without blood.

[Mar 14:24, 27
24 And He said to them, "This is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many. ...
27 Then Jesus said to them, "All of you will be made to stumble because of Me this night, for it is written: 'I will strike the Shepherd, And the sheep will be scattered.'
Shalom.

Incorrect.

Shalom.

Jacob

Squeaky
July 17th, 2017, 06:23 PM
Shalom.

Incorrect.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
Your an idiot. You don't know scripture. You don't know the Holy Spirit. You speak blasphemy against Jesus.

Jacob
July 17th, 2017, 06:30 PM
I said
Your an idiot. You don't know scripture. You don't know the Holy Spirit. You speak blasphemy against Jesus.
Shalom.

You are incorrect. I know Scripture and I know the Holy Spirit. Other than that I do not know what you mean or what you are saying.

Shalom.

Jacob

Squeaky
July 17th, 2017, 06:44 PM
Shalom.

You are incorrect. I know Scripture and I know the Holy Spirit. Other than that I do not know what you mean or what you are saying.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
You have lied to yourself so much your believing it. The rest of the world goes by evidence. I have showed you enough evidence to convict anyone. And you just fall back on that denial spirit.
Let me ask you this/
Are you agreeing with me when you say I am incorrect?
Are you agreeing with me when you say no?

Jacob
July 17th, 2017, 07:55 PM
I said
You have lied to yourself so much your believing it. The rest of the world goes by evidence. I have showed you enough evidence to convict anyone. And you just fall back on that denial spirit.
Let me ask you this/
Are you agreeing with me when you say I am incorrect?
Are you agreeing with me when you say no?
Shalom.

No.

Shalom.

Jacob

Squeaky
July 17th, 2017, 08:01 PM
Shalom.

No.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
lol I asked two questions and made one observation. Which one are you saying no to?
And just exactly what does your no mean?

Jacob
July 17th, 2017, 08:30 PM
I said
lol I asked two questions and made one observation. Which one are you saying no to?
And just exactly what does your no mean?

Shalom.

I mean that when you continue and ask if my no means that I agree with you I must say no.

Shalom.

Jacob

Squeaky
July 17th, 2017, 08:36 PM
Shalom.

I mean that when you continue and ask if my no means that I agree with you I must say no.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said

And that is no different when I post verses that Jesus supports. When you say no, your rejecting what Jesus says. That is an antichrist.

Jacob
July 17th, 2017, 10:14 PM
I said

And that is no different when I post verses that Jesus supports. When you say no, your rejecting what Jesus says. That is an antichrist.
Shalom.

If you only post a verse it is how you use it or what you are using it for. If you have your own words it is what you say that is evaluated. Don't use Scripture to try to prove your words correct.

Shalom.

Jacob

patrick jane
July 17th, 2017, 11:07 PM
Shalom.

If you only post a verse it is how you use it or what you are using it for. If you have your own words it is what you say that is evaluated. Don't use Scripture to try to prove your words correct.

Shalom.

JacobAre you old enough to be President?

notreligus
July 17th, 2017, 11:56 PM
Shalom.

I am a Jew, and I know that I am to keep and teach God's Commandments.

Matthew 5:17-19 NASB - 17 "Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill. 18 "For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished. 19 "Whoever then annuls one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever keeps and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Shalom.

Jacob

The entire Mitzvot? The Talmud? All of the Midrash?

Jesus fulfilled the Law as the obedient servant. The law is obsolete. Heb 8:13 In speaking of a new covenant, he makes the first one obsolete. And what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.

All of mankind needed to be reconciled to God Almighty. Jews/Israel do not have a separate plan of salvation because of covenantal nomism.

Squeaky
July 18th, 2017, 05:12 AM
Shalom.

If you only post a verse it is how you use it or what you are using it for. If you have your own words it is what you say that is evaluated. Don't use Scripture to try to prove your words correct.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
lolo Now your tripping over your own tongue. You really should go back and read what you wrote.

Squeaky
July 18th, 2017, 05:14 AM
Are you old enough to be President?

I said
lol Some times I don't think he is old enough to vote.

Squeaky
July 18th, 2017, 05:23 AM
Shalom.

If you only post a verse it is how you use it or what you are using it for. If you have your own words it is what you say that is evaluated. Don't use Scripture to try to prove your words correct.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
You are an idiot. That is the whole purpose of having the bible. To match up all of our thoughts with what the scriptures say. And using the scriptures to support what we say.

2 Cor 10:4-5
4 For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds,
5 casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ,
(NKJ)

Jacob
July 18th, 2017, 10:57 AM
Are you old enough to be President?Shalom.

Yes.

Shalom.

Jacob

Jacob
July 18th, 2017, 10:58 AM
The entire Mitzvot? The Talmud? All of the Midrash?

Jesus fulfilled the Law as the obedient servant. The law is obsolete. Heb 8:13 In speaking of a new covenant, he makes the first one obsolete. And what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.

All of mankind needed to be reconciled to God Almighty. Jews/Israel do not have a separate plan of salvation because of covenantal nomism.
Shalom.

I do not know what you are talking about.

Shalom.

Jacob

Jacob
July 18th, 2017, 11:00 AM
I said
lolo Now your tripping over your own tongue. You really should go back and read what you wrote.


I said
You are an idiot. That is the whole purpose of having the bible. To match up all of our thoughts with what the scriptures say. And using the scriptures to support what we say.

2 Cor 10:4-5
4 For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds,
5 casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ,
(NKJ)
Shalom.

You are incorrect.

This is a sad situation.

Shalom.

Jacob

Squeaky
July 18th, 2017, 11:27 AM
Shalom.

You are incorrect.

This is a sad situation.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
It is sad. You have the same demon of denial that an alcoholic has. Denial, denial, denial. Play dumb, claim ignorance, say you don't know what someone else is talking about. Hiding from the truth.

Jacob
July 18th, 2017, 11:36 AM
I said
It is sad. You have the same demon of denial that an alcoholic has. Denial, denial, denial. Play dumb, claim ignorance, say you don't know what someone else is talking about. Hiding from the truth.
Shalom.

No. Incorrect. You are incorrect.

Shalom.

Jacob

Squeaky
July 18th, 2017, 11:58 AM
Shalom.

No. Incorrect. You are incorrect.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
lol There is your demon. lol

Jacob
July 18th, 2017, 12:01 PM
I said
lol There is your demon. lolShalom.

No. You don't know. I was responding to what you said. Do you believe somehow that a thought can be a demon?

Shalom.

Jacob

Squeaky
July 18th, 2017, 02:24 PM
Shalom.

No. You don't know. I was responding to what you said. Do you believe somehow that a thought can be a demon?

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
lol You are a idiot. Don't you even know where thoughts come from???: Demons give you a lot of your thoughts. Demons talk to us.


[Luk 8:27-31
27 And when He stepped out on the land, there met Him a certain man from the city who had demons for a long time. And he wore no clothes, nor did he live in a house but in the tombs.
28 When he saw Jesus, he cried out, fell down before Him, and with a loud voice said, "What have I to do with You, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? I beg You, do not torment me!"
29 For He had commanded the unclean spirit to come out of the man. For it had often seized him, and he was kept under guard, bound with chains and shackles; and he broke the bonds and was driven by the demon into the wilderness.
30 Jesus asked him, saying, "What is your name?" And he said, "Legion," because many demons had entered him. 31 And they begged Him that He would not command them to go out into the abyss.

Jacob
July 18th, 2017, 02:43 PM
I said
lol You are a idiot. Don't you even know where thoughts come from???: Demons give you a lot of your thoughts. Demons talk to us.


[Luk 8:27-31
27 And when He stepped out on the land, there met Him a certain man from the city who had demons for a long time. And he wore no clothes, nor did he live in a house but in the tombs.
28 When he saw Jesus, he cried out, fell down before Him, and with a loud voice said, "What have I to do with You, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? I beg You, do not torment me!"
29 For He had commanded the unclean spirit to come out of the man. For it had often seized him, and he was kept under guard, bound with chains and shackles; and he broke the bonds and was driven by the demon into the wilderness.
30 Jesus asked him, saying, "What is your name?" And he said, "Legion," because many demons had entered him. 31 And they begged Him that He would not command them to go out into the abyss.
Shalom.

To have a demon is different than to have a thought.

Shalom.

Jacob

Squeaky
July 18th, 2017, 03:40 PM
Shalom.

To have a demon is different than to have a thought.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
All your thoughts of reason and logic come from the spirits that are in you. I have a couple of revelations on the subject already posted. Try this exercise. If you want to know just how much control you have over your mind. Stop thinking for 30 minutes. If you cant then you know your not in there alone. If your not in there alone who else is in there with you.
I posted a revelation on your guardian angel. I posted one on where thoughts come from. You can check every verse in them.
The only one who can reveal your demons or your guardian angel is the Holy Spirit and He will do it with a verse. He will tell you the same thing that I have posted over and over.

Jacob
July 18th, 2017, 04:02 PM
I said
All your thoughts of reason and logic come from the spirits that are in you. I have a couple of revelations on the subject already posted. Try this exercise. If you want to know just how much control you have over your mind. Stop thinking for 30 minutes. If you cant then you know your not in there alone. If your not in there alone who else is in there with you.
I posted a revelation on your guardian angel. I posted one on where thoughts come from. You can check every verse in them.
The only one who can reveal your demons or your guardian angel is the Holy Spirit and He will do it with a verse. He will tell you the same thing that I have posted over and over.
Shalom.

You still do not know what you are talking about. What you are saying is not true.

Shalom.

Jacob

Squeaky
July 18th, 2017, 04:09 PM
Shalom.

You still do not know what you are talking about. What you are saying is not true.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
lol You got them thoughts from your demon. That just proves what I have been saying. You have the same spirit guiding you as an alcoholic has. When they deny the truth about themselves. Your afraid to try them exercises I gave you. Your demons don't want you to see the truth, because they will have to get out of you. That is why God tells us that we must work out our own salvation. Nobody can do it for us.

Phil 2:12
12 Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling;
(NKJ)

Jacob
July 18th, 2017, 04:18 PM
I said
lol You got them thoughts from your demon. That just proves what I have been saying. You have the same spirit guiding you as an alcoholic has. When they deny the truth about themselves. Your afraid to try them exercises I gave you. Your demons don't want you to see the truth, because they will have to get out of you. That is why God tells us that we must work out our own salvation. Nobody can do it for us.

Phil 2:12
12 Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling;
(NKJ)
Shalom.

I am sorry, but your exercises are not Biblical.

Shalom.

Jacob

Squeaky
July 18th, 2017, 05:14 PM
Shalom.

I am sorry, but your exercises are not Biblical.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
ROFLOL Some times I wonder if you have ever opened a bible. You certainly haven't opened the new testament. Where do you think I came up with the idea from? From the bible.

[2Co 10:4-5
4 For the weapons of our warfare [are] not carnal but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds,
5 casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ,

Jacob
July 18th, 2017, 05:17 PM
I said
ROFLOL Some times I wonder if you have ever opened a bible. You certainly haven't opened the new testament. Where do you think I came up with the idea from? From the bible.

[2Co 10:4-5
4 For the weapons of our warfare [are] not carnal but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds,
5 casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ,
Shalom.

You are incorrect and you are lying.

Shalom.

Jacob

Squeaky
July 18th, 2017, 05:27 PM
Shalom.

You are incorrect and you are lying.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said\
That is one powerful demon you have there. I cant be lying I showed you the same verses the Holy Spirit gave me. I beginning to wonder if you will ever be able to get out from under his control. You are untaught and unstable in all your remarks. And you have absolutely no support from the Holy Spirit.

[2Pe 3:16
16 as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable [people] twist to their own destruction, as [they do] also the rest of the Scriptures.

Jacob
July 18th, 2017, 05:30 PM
I said\
That is one powerful demon you have there. I cant be lying I showed you the same verses the Holy Spirit gave me. I beginning to wonder if you will ever be able to get out from under his control. You are untaught and unstable in all your remarks. And you have absolutely no support from the Holy Spirit.

[2Pe 3:16
16 as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable [people] twist to their own destruction, as [they do] also the rest of the Scriptures.
Shalom.

You said that what you said was Biblical or found in Scripture.

Shalom.

Jacob

Squeaky
July 18th, 2017, 05:46 PM
Shalom.

You said that what you said was Biblical or found in Scripture.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
lol It is and I showed it to you. But your so blinded by that demon you cant even see it. It says to bring every thought in your mind unto the obedience of the new testament. So if you take every thought in your mind and compare it to the new testament. You will see your own demon, or demons. And if you try to stop thinking your demons won't let you. They will keep up the confusion and deception.


[2Co 10:4-5
4 For the weapons of our warfare [are] not carnal but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds,
5 casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ,

Jacob
July 18th, 2017, 05:55 PM
I said
lol It is and I showed it to you. But your so blinded by that demon you cant even see it. It says to bring every thought in your mind unto the obedience of the new testament. So if you take every thought in your mind and compare it to the new testament. You will see your own demon, or demons. And if you try to stop thinking your demons won't let you. They will keep up the confusion and deception.


[2Co 10:4-5
4 For the weapons of our warfare [are] not carnal but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds,
5 casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ,
Shalom.

What you are saying here is unBiblical.

Shalom.

Jacob

Squeaky
July 18th, 2017, 06:06 PM
Shalom.

What you are saying here is unBiblical.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
ROFLOL So says your demon. But anyone can see that it is biblical.

Jacob
July 18th, 2017, 06:21 PM
I said
ROFLOL So says your demon. But anyone can see that it is biblical.
Shalom.

If it were Biblical you would not need to prove it. Otherwise, just show me what is in the Bible. My statements stand.

Shalom.

Jacob

Squeaky
July 18th, 2017, 06:41 PM
Shalom.

If it were Biblical you would not need to prove it. Otherwise, just show me what is in the Bible. My statements stand.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
ROFLOL Your really struggling with words now. Of course everything you say is demon driven. You have to support from the Holy Spirit. You don't even know the Holy Spirit. And all the verses I gave you came from the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit showed you and proved to you that you are listening to a demon. You cant say anything spiritual so why don't you and your demon go somewhere else. Your getting very boring again listening to all your lies and phony excuses. you should go read the revelation I posted on intellectual idiots. It fits you very well.

Jacob
July 18th, 2017, 07:58 PM
I said
ROFLOL Your really struggling with words now. Of course everything you say is demon driven. You have to support from the Holy Spirit. You don't even know the Holy Spirit. And all the verses I gave you came from the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit showed you and proved to you that you are listening to a demon. You cant say anything spiritual so why don't you and your demon go somewhere else. Your getting very boring again listening to all your lies and phony excuses. you should go read the revelation I posted on intellectual idiots. It fits you very well.

Shalom.

You are incorrect. I believe that you are saying that you do not like what I am saying so it comes from demons and you want me to stop talking to you.

Shalom.

Jacob

Squeaky
July 18th, 2017, 09:14 PM
Shalom.

You are incorrect. I believe that you are saying that you do not like what I am saying so it comes from demons and you want me to stop talking to you.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
I'm saying I know what your saying is from demons. And you are boring me to sleep. You don't have the slightest idea of what spiritual means. You are totally carnally minded. You have posted two verses and you got them all wrong. Your an antichrist. Whether you know it or not. Your wasting my time with your ramblings. Your an idiot.

Jacob
July 18th, 2017, 10:20 PM
I said
I'm saying I know what your saying is from demons. And you are boring me to sleep. You don't have the slightest idea of what spiritual means. You are totally carnally minded. You have posted two verses and you got them all wrong. Your an antichrist. Whether you know it or not. Your wasting my time with your ramblings. Your an idiot.Shalom.

You are insulting me, saying false things about me, talking about demons, and accusing me of something. What two verses do you remember me posting, and what is wrong about them (nothing) or what I said about them?

Shalom.

Jacob

patrick jane
July 18th, 2017, 10:22 PM
Shalom.

You are insulting me, saying false things about me, talking about demons, and accusing me of something. What two verses do you remember me posting, and what is wrong about them (nothing) or what I said about them?

Shalom.

JacobJacob, you late night freak !!! :wave2:

glorydaz
July 18th, 2017, 10:32 PM
I said
I'm saying I know what your saying is from demons. And you are boring me to sleep. You don't have the slightest idea of what spiritual means. You are totally carnally minded. You have posted two verses and you got them all wrong. Your an antichrist. Whether you know it or not. Your wasting my time with your ramblings. Your an idiot.

Really Squeaky? You waste everyone's time and you have the gall to accuse someone else of doing so?

Jacob
July 19th, 2017, 04:13 AM
Jacob, you late night freak !!! :wave2:Shalom.

I do not know what you mean. Shalom. Boker Tov! Good morning. Today is Revi'i (the fourth day of the week), 4-25. It is not yet day (yom) here in Lakewood, Washington, here at Seeley Lake Lodge.

Shalom.

Jacob

Squeaky
July 19th, 2017, 06:21 AM
Shalom.

You are insulting me, saying false things about me, talking about demons, and accusing me of something. What two verses do you remember me posting, and what is wrong about them (nothing) or what I said about them?

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
lol After weeks and months of your not understanding, your no's, your patting yourself on the back for nothing. After absolutely no spirituality, no witness, no edification. Your worthless. After all your boring ridiculous , deception, perversion, blasphemy, lying. God has kicked you out of Christianity. Your like king Saul in the old testament when God dropped him. Everyone else knew it but him. I think it would be better if you went some where else to spread satan's message. I've heard enough of it.

Squeaky
July 19th, 2017, 06:22 AM
Really Squeaky? You waste everyone's time and you have the gall to accuse someone else of doing so?

I said
lol Your welcome to go with him.

Squeaky
July 19th, 2017, 06:24 AM
Shalom.

I do not know what you mean. Shalom. Boker Tov! Good morning. Today is Revi'i (the fourth day of the week), 4-25. It is not yet day (yom) here in Lakewood, Washington, here at Seeley Lake Lodge.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
lol You never know.

Jacob
July 19th, 2017, 06:33 AM
I said
lol After weeks and months of your not understanding, your no's, your patting yourself on the back for nothing. After absolutely no spirituality, no witness, no edification. Your worthless. After all your boring ridiculous , deception, perversion, blasphemy, lying. God has kicked you out of Christianity. Your like king Saul in the old testament when God dropped him. Everyone else knew it but him. I think it would be better if you went some where else to spread satan's message. I've heard enough of it.


I said
lol You never know.

Shalom.

I am definitely not a Satanist. Shalom.

Shalom.

Jacob

Squeaky
July 19th, 2017, 06:58 AM
Shalom.

I am definitely not a Satanist. Shalom.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
lol You don't have to be a Satanist to work for satan. One can work for satan because of deception. That is what you do. Its all in your "No" and "I don't understand". You escape the responsibility of an answer with "I don't understand". Most people that don't understand something know they don't have the knowledge to comment on something. You use "I don't understand" as an escape from answering convicting replies. And because you don't understand most people let you off the hook for an answer. And you take advantage of their kindness. That is what makes you evil. Your full of guile. And you use that guile against Christ. Which makes you an antichrist.

Jacob
July 19th, 2017, 07:03 AM
I said
lol You don't have to be a Satanist to work for satan. One can work for satan because of deception. That is what you do. Its all in your "No" and "I don't understand". You escape the responsibility of an answer with "I don't understand". Most people that don't understand something know they don't have the knowledge to comment on something. You use "I don't understand" as an escape from answering convicting replies. And because you don't understand most people let you off the hook for an answer. And you take advantage of their kindness. That is what makes you evil. Your full of guile. And you use that guile against Christ. Which makes you an antichrist.
Shalom.

You are incorrect. I do not know everything. Therefore I do not understand everything. But what are you referring to?

I said that I am not a Satanist in response to what you said. I have previously convinced others that you do not need to be a Satanist to work for satan, which you are attempting to convince me of now. I already know that. I am a big no to Satan and demons.

Shalom.

Jacob

Squeaky
July 19th, 2017, 07:21 AM
Shalom.

You are incorrect. I do not know everything. Therefore I do not understand everything. But what are you referring to?

I said that I am not a Satanist in response to what you said. I have previously convinced others that you do not need to be a Satanist to work for satan, which you are attempting to convince me of now. I already know that. I am a big no to Satan and demons.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
lol You do work for satan. You are doing his work. Do you also know that the spirit of denial that most alcoholics have can work the same in different area's of life. When someone keeps saying they "don't understand" that takes away their right to deny it. You flip flop back and forth to cover up the truth.
You said to me your not an idiot, point blank. In the next sentence you said what is an idiot. That is an oxymoron. Your full of them. You say your a believer in Jesus and what He said. And you have said no to every verse that I have showed you that Jesus said. That is an oxymoron. Then you say you understand the bible. Every statement you make has proven to be a lie, or guile. Your about as consistent as water. Water is very unstable. You are very unstable, and unlearned. Which equals an idiot.

2 Pet 3:16
16 as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures.
(NKJ)

Jacob
July 19th, 2017, 07:44 AM
I said
lol You do work for satan. You are doing his work. Do you also know that the spirit of denial that most alcoholics have can work the same in different area's of life. When someone keeps saying they "don't understand" that takes away their right to deny it. You flip flop back and forth to cover up the truth.
You said to me your not an idiot, point blank. In the next sentence you said what is an idiot. That is an oxymoron. Your full of them. You say your a believer in Jesus and what He said. And you have said no to every verse that I have showed you that Jesus said. That is an oxymoron. Then you say you understand the bible. Every statement you make has proven to be a lie, or guile. Your about as consistent as water. Water is very unstable. You are very unstable, and unlearned. Which equals an idiot.

2 Pet 3:16
16 as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures.
(NKJ)
Shalom.

No. An idiot was someone who knows English, doesn't know English, or doesn't know. I do know, but I do not always understand. I asked God for understanding and He gave it to me. But I know or understand enough to be able to know or explain when I do not know or understand something. Again, I am not all-knowing. God is all-knowing. However, He is not an idol, a false God. He created the world. It is His Creation. And nothing escapes His notice.

Shalom.

Jacob

Squeaky
July 19th, 2017, 08:04 AM
Shalom.

No. An idiot was someone who knows English, doesn't know English, or doesn't know. I do know, but I do not always understand. I asked God for understanding and He gave it to me. But I know or understand enough to be able to know or explain when I do not know or understand something. Again, I am not all-knowing. God is all-knowing. However, He is not an idol, a false God. He created the world. It is His Creation. And nothing escapes His notice.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
lolol Your just rambling now. The bible has a different dictionary than the carnal world. And yes you are an idiot according to a bible dictionary. You have a very strong demon full of denial. You don't even know your own demons yet. They lead you to teaching the bible that you don't know nothing about. If you haven't studied a bible dictionary you will get all the words wrong in the bible. Its a different language. It has the milk understanding and the meat understanding. You don't have either yet. If you don't know your demons you cant know whether or not you are obeying one.


Rom 2:17-24
17 Indeed you are called a Jew, and rest on the law, and make your boast in God,
18 and know His will, and approve the things that are excellent, being instructed out of the law,
19 and are confident that you yourself are a guide to the blind, a light to those who are in darkness,
20 an instructor of the foolish, a teacher of babes, having the form of knowledge and truth in the law.
21 You, therefore, who teach another, do you not teach yourself? You who preach that a man should not steal, do you steal?
22 You who say, "Do not commit adultery," do you commit adultery? You who abhor idols, do you rob temples?
23 You who make your boast in the law, do you dishonor God through breaking the law?
24 For "The name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of you," as it is written.
(NKJ)

Acts 15:10
10 "Now therefore, why do you test God by putting a yoke on the neck of the disciples which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?
(NKJ)

Gal 6:12-13
12 As many as desire to make a good showing in the flesh, these would compel you to be circumcised, only that they may not suffer persecution for the cross of Christ.
13 For not even those who are circumcised keep the law, but they desire to have you circumcised that they may boast in your flesh.
(NKJ)

Jacob
July 19th, 2017, 08:11 AM
I said
lolol Your just rambling now. The bible has a different dictionary than the carnal world. And yes you are an idiot according to a bible dictionary. You have a very strong demon full of denial. You don't even know your own demons yet. They lead you to teaching the bible that you don't know nothing about. If you haven't studied a bible dictionary you will get all the words wrong in the bible. Its a different language. It has the milk understanding and the meat understanding. You don't have either yet. If you don't know your demons you cant know whether or not you are obeying one.


Rom 2:17-24
17 Indeed you are called a Jew, and rest on the law, and make your boast in God,
18 and know His will, and approve the things that are excellent, being instructed out of the law,
19 and are confident that you yourself are a guide to the blind, a light to those who are in darkness,
20 an instructor of the foolish, a teacher of babes, having the form of knowledge and truth in the law.
21 You, therefore, who teach another, do you not teach yourself? You who preach that a man should not steal, do you steal?
22 You who say, "Do not commit adultery," do you commit adultery? You who abhor idols, do you rob temples?
23 You who make your boast in the law, do you dishonor God through breaking the law?
24 For "The name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of you," as it is written.
(NKJ)

Acts 15:10
10 "Now therefore, why do you test God by putting a yoke on the neck of the disciples which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?
(NKJ)

Gal 6:12-13
12 As many as desire to make a good showing in the flesh, these would compel you to be circumcised, only that they may not suffer persecution for the cross of Christ.
13 For not even those who are circumcised keep the law, but they desire to have you circumcised that they may boast in your flesh.
(NKJ)
Shalom.

Again, you are incorrect. It was that if you are speaking English you are rambling, but that the word rambling is an English word. You can only use English to defeat this false logic or conundrum or not?

Shalom.

Jacob

Squeaky
July 19th, 2017, 08:29 AM
Shalom.

Again, you are incorrect. It was that if you are speaking English you are rambling, but that the word rambling is an English word. You can only use English to defeat this false logic or conundrum or not?

Shalom.

Jacob

i SAID
ROFLOL You are really an idiot. Whether its English or any other language its carnal. Only the Word of God is spiritual. You don't have the Word abiding in you. All you have is carnal.

John 5:38-40
38 "But you do not have His word abiding in you, because whom He sent, Him you do not believe.
39 "You search the Scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life; and these are they which testify of Me.
40 "But you are not willing to come to Me that you may have life.
(NKJ)

Jacob
July 19th, 2017, 08:47 AM
i SAID
ROFLOL You are really an idiot.Shalom.

No. I was not an idiot. Someone saying that I am an idiot does not make me one, even if you have a definition. Not knowing a definition or not admitting, self-admitting, or making a statement that I am an idiot, whether I am an idiot or not, does not make me an idiot. If you try to get someone to say that they are an idiot you can have control over them. But you can't, even if you say that they are an idiot. If I say that I am an idiot it is either the truth or I am lying. If I did something that was wrong I might need to recognize or say that I am an idiot. But whether or not this is about my identity as an idiot or my saying that I am an idiot, if I were to do so I do not know if I would be able to take it back. And, with you I do not know that you would not use it against me in some manner. As it is you only have your false words, and a Bible dictionary that you did not want to use and did not use correctly in regard to the word covenant and also the word testament. If you want to read, study, and apply Scripture, the Word of God, to your life, don't rely on or use subdivisions, or headings, or titles, to define, utilize, accept, or understand what the Bible says. God's Word stands as it is. It needs no alteration. The truth of God's Word is in the Autographs, the Original Manuscripts, of which we have existing copies. The Word of God, Scripture, is inspired of God and inerrant in the Original Manuscripts.

Shalom.

Jacob

Squeaky
July 19th, 2017, 08:54 AM
Shalom.

No. I was not an idiot. Someone saying that I am an idiot does not make me one, even if you have a definition. Not knowing a definition or not admitting, self-admitting, or making a statement that I am an idiot, whether I am an idiot or not, does not make me an idiot. If you try to get someone to say that they are an idiot you can have control over them. But you can't, even if you say that they are an idiot. If I say that I am an idiot it is either the truth or I am lying. If I did something that was wrong I might need to recognize or say that I am an idiot. But whether or not this is about my identity as an idiot or my saying that I am an idiot, if I were to do so I do not know if I would be able to take it back. And, with you I do not know that you would not use it against me in some manner. As it is you only have your false words, and a Bible dictionary that you did not want to use and did not use correctly in regard to the word covenant and also the word testament. If you want to read, study, and apply Scripture, the Word of God, to your life, don't rely on or use subdivisions, or headings, or titles, to define, utilize, accept, or understand what the Bible says. God's Word stands as it is. It needs no alteration. The truth of God's Word is in the Autographs, the Original Manuscripts, of which we have existing copies. The Word of God, Scripture, is inspired of God and inerrant in the Original Manuscripts.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
lolololololololololololol You have lost it.

Jacob
July 19th, 2017, 09:35 AM
I said
lolololololololololololol You have lost it.Shalom.

No. I was given the opportunity to use the Internet and learn Online. I was taught about truth statements and statements of truth. I can learn Torah and Scripture. I can educate myself, learn from others, and share the truth with others. A Book, the Bible, can be discussed Online. This is about truth and the truth. If something is not true it has no place on the Internet because then People would be led astray. But you have to learn truth from error. It is not about teaching or learning deception, outwitting or outsmarting anyone. It is not about man's logic, rhetoric, reasoning, or rationality. It is not about fooling others to prevent murder, justice, or personal accountability. It is about the truth of the Word of God, God's Law, and good triumphing over evil. Otherwise, apart from learning and enjoying God's Creation, and seeking to better other's lives, the computer has unfortunately been found to be an evil in the hands of wicked men seeking to destroy others, justify their own sin, create confusion, solve murder cases, and manipulate or control the masses. Why not just speak the truth one to another in love? The computer is a novelty that does not always bring about the results that we desire, is not easily understood, and sometimes has been found to have an adverse effect on others and even reaching beyond the environment in which it is found. If the computer can be used for good, it should be. Otherwise, it cannot and should not be used, in keeping with God's Law. Do you find that others are blessed through your use of the computer? Can you find what you need or are you able to readily, easily, and simply, share the truth with others? I do not know why you find me boring, but I did not know that I would have so much to share with you. I have few words and would like to share Scripture, but I fear that you do not accept the Torah, Israel, God's Law, and I am for this post using my phone though that does not create an obstacle if a Verse comes to mind.

Shalom.

Jacob

Squeaky
July 19th, 2017, 10:07 AM
you said
If you try to get someone to say that they are an idiot you can have control over them.


Shalom.

No. I was given the opportunity to use the Internet and learn Online. I was taught about truth statements and statements of truth. I can learn Torah and Scripture. I can educate myself, learn from others, and share the truth with others. A Book, the Bible, can be discussed Online. This is about truth and the truth. If something is not true it has no place on the Internet because then People would be led astray. But you have to learn truth from error. It is not about teaching or learning deception, outwitting or outsmarting anyone. It is not about man's logic, rhetoric, reasoning, or rationality. It is not about fooling others to prevent murder, justice, or personal accountability. It is about the truth of the Word of God, God's Law, and good triumphing over evil. Otherwise, apart from learning and enjoying God's Creation, and seeking to better other's lives, the computer has unfortunately been found to be an evil in the hands of wicked men seeking to destroy others, justify their own sin, create confusion, solve murder cases, and manipulate or control the masses. Why not just speak the truth one to another in love? The computer is a novelty that does not always bring about the results that we desire, is not easily understood, and sometimes has been found to have an adverse effect on others and even reaching beyond the environment in which it is found. If the computer can be used for good, it should be. Otherwise, it cannot and should not be used, in keeping with God's Law. Do you find that others are blessed through your use of the computer? Can you find what you need or are you able to readily, easily, and simply, share the truth with others? I do not know why you find me boring, but I did not know that I would have so much to share with you. I have few words and would like to share Scripture, but I fear that you do not accept the Torah, Israel, God's Law, and I am for this post using my phone though that does not create an obstacle if a Verse comes to mind.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
ROFLOL You are really paranoid. And full of fear. That is what that spirit of denial uses to control you.

Squeaky
July 19th, 2017, 10:12 AM
Have You Ever Humbled Yourself?

John 8:32-38
32 "And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free."
33 They answered Him, "We are Abraham's descendants, and have never been in bondage to anyone. How can you say, 'You will be made free'?"
34 Jesus answered them, "Most assuredly, I say to you, whoever commits sin is a slave of sin.
35 "And a slave does not abide in the house forever, but a son abides forever.
36 "Therefore if the Son makes you free, you shall be free indeed.
37 "I know that you are Abraham's descendants, but you seek to kill Me, because My word has no place in you.
38 "I speak what I have seen with My Father, and you do what you have seen with your father."
Matt 11:27
27 "All things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father. Nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal Him.
Rom 3:9-11
9 What then? Are we better than they? Not at all. For we have previously charged both Jews and Greeks that they are all under sin.
10 As it is written: "There is none righteous, no, not one;
11 There is none who understands; there is none who seeks after God.
Luke 18:10-14
10 "Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector.
11 "The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, 'God, I thank You that I am not like other men-- extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this tax collector.
12 'I fast twice a week; I give tithes of all that I possess.'
13 "And the tax collector, standing afar off, would not so much as raise his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, 'God, be merciful to me a sinner!'
14 "I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other; for everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted."
James 4:13-16
13 Come now, you who say, "Today or tomorrow we will go to such and such a city, spend a year there, buy and sell, and make a profit";
14 whereas you do not know what will happen tomorrow. For what is your life? It is even a vapor that appears for a little time and then vanishes away.
15 Instead you ought to say, "If the Lord wills, we shall live and do this or that."
16 But now you boast in your arrogance. All such boasting is evil.
James 5:1-6
1 Come now, you rich, weep and howl for your miseries that are coming upon you!
2 Your riches are corrupted, and your garments are moth-eaten.
3 Your gold and silver are corroded, and their corrosion will be a witness against you and will eat your flesh like fire. You have heaped up treasure in the last days.
4 Indeed the wages of the laborers who mowed your fields, which you kept back by fraud, cry out; and the cries of the reapers have reached the ears of the Lord of Sabaoth.
5 You have lived on the earth in pleasure and luxury; you have fattened your hearts as in a day of slaughter.
6 You have condemned, you have murdered the just; he does not resist you.
1 Cor 1:21
21 For since, in the wisdom of God, the world through wisdom did not know God, it pleased God through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe.
1 Cor 1:25-29
25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men, and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
26 For you see your calling, brethren, that not many wise according to the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called.
27 But God has chosen the foolish things of the world to put to shame the wise, and God has chosen the weak things of the world to put to shame the things which are mighty;
28 and the base things of the world and the things which are despised God has chosen, and the things which are not, to bring to nothing the things that are,
29 that no flesh should glory in His presence.

XXX Most people have never humbled themselves to the truth in the Word. Most try to humble others ignoring their own evils.

Jacob
July 19th, 2017, 12:00 PM
you said
If you try to get someone to say that they are an idiot you can have control over them.



I said
ROFLOL You are really paranoid. And full of fear. That is what that spirit of denial uses to control you.


Have You Ever Humbled Yourself?

John 8:32-38
32 "And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free."
33 They answered Him, "We are Abraham's descendants, and have never been in bondage to anyone. How can you say, 'You will be made free'?"
34 Jesus answered them, "Most assuredly, I say to you, whoever commits sin is a slave of sin.
35 "And a slave does not abide in the house forever, but a son abides forever.
36 "Therefore if the Son makes you free, you shall be free indeed.
37 "I know that you are Abraham's descendants, but you seek to kill Me, because My word has no place in you.
38 "I speak what I have seen with My Father, and you do what you have seen with your father."
Matt 11:27
27 "All things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father. Nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal Him.
Rom 3:9-11
9 What then? Are we better than they? Not at all. For we have previously charged both Jews and Greeks that they are all under sin.
10 As it is written: "There is none righteous, no, not one;
11 There is none who understands; there is none who seeks after God.
Luke 18:10-14
10 "Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector.
11 "The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, 'God, I thank You that I am not like other men-- extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this tax collector.
12 'I fast twice a week; I give tithes of all that I possess.'
13 "And the tax collector, standing afar off, would not so much as raise his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, 'God, be merciful to me a sinner!'
14 "I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other; for everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted."
James 4:13-16
13 Come now, you who say, "Today or tomorrow we will go to such and such a city, spend a year there, buy and sell, and make a profit";
14 whereas you do not know what will happen tomorrow. For what is your life? It is even a vapor that appears for a little time and then vanishes away.
15 Instead you ought to say, "If the Lord wills, we shall live and do this or that."
16 But now you boast in your arrogance. All such boasting is evil.
James 5:1-6
1 Come now, you rich, weep and howl for your miseries that are coming upon you!
2 Your riches are corrupted, and your garments are moth-eaten.
3 Your gold and silver are corroded, and their corrosion will be a witness against you and will eat your flesh like fire. You have heaped up treasure in the last days.
4 Indeed the wages of the laborers who mowed your fields, which you kept back by fraud, cry out; and the cries of the reapers have reached the ears of the Lord of Sabaoth.
5 You have lived on the earth in pleasure and luxury; you have fattened your hearts as in a day of slaughter.
6 You have condemned, you have murdered the just; he does not resist you.
1 Cor 1:21
21 For since, in the wisdom of God, the world through wisdom did not know God, it pleased God through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe.
1 Cor 1:25-29
25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men, and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
26 For you see your calling, brethren, that not many wise according to the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called.
27 But God has chosen the foolish things of the world to put to shame the wise, and God has chosen the weak things of the world to put to shame the things which are mighty;
28 and the base things of the world and the things which are despised God has chosen, and the things which are not, to bring to nothing the things that are,
29 that no flesh should glory in His presence.

XXX Most people have never humbled themselves to the truth in the Word. Most try to humble others ignoring their own evils.
Shalom.

You are using fear to humble and control me, evidenced by the fact that you know something about it. This is a misuse of Scripture. You recognize the error I have helped you to identify, but you do not know what to do about it. Stop seeking to control other people. You are sucking people toward yourself like a moth to the flame with your mind in what you say. You push away while you pull toward your self. If what you said was true I would not need to respond to it. What did you say not a chance for or about? You don't want me to get away and I do not want to run away. But this is a computer, or communication with a phone. Why do you not answer if you are in the United States of America, a citizen of the United States of America, of Israel, or in Israel, or where you are? Do not violate the Sabbath by posting on Theology Online. As it is you are holding me hostage to your way of seeing things and viewing the world. If I have committed a crime then tell me what it is. You said that you created threads for me, but then that you do not want to talk or communicate with me. As it is you hold me hostage to something you don't know, and continue with your control of others. That is not justice, that is justifying what you want to do with an unwilling participant. If you still believe that I cannot help you then I won't. Your time has run out. Because of the possibility of our discussion or communication one with the other, other people suffer, and the security of the United States of America is at stake while you are not even in the United States of America. We do not need your help to protect ourselves. I thought you were in Washington DC, but the time of posts has been off on this website in different ways at different times. We need to deal with Satanism here in the United States of America, while you perpetuate it from outside the States. Are you saying that you understand? Or, why do you speak against God's Law? You favor your incorrect understanding of the law of Christ, saying that Jesus changed the law, while I observe God's Law and accept the law of Christ and the New Covenant as for me. The New Covenant is for the house of Israel and the house of Judah. It is in Yeshua HaMashiach. It is God's law written on minds and hearts. If you are fighting terrorism, do not do it by saying that there is a commandment that has been annulled. Accept all of Scripture. The entire Law. For the Law was given that the world would be made accountable to God. We can govern our nation without your help. Do you need something or a name when you are not recognizing that anything has been done that is wrong? I do not need to hear from you again. But do not control us.

Shalom.

Jacob

Squeaky
July 19th, 2017, 12:11 PM
Shalom.

You are using fear to humble and control me, evidenced by the fact that you know something about it. This is a misuse of Scripture. You recognize the error I have helped you to identify, but you do not know what to do about it. Stop seeking to control other people. You are sucking people toward yourself like a moth to the flame with your mind in what you say. You push away while you pull toward your self. If what you said was true I would not need to respond to it. What did you say not a chance for or about? You don't want me to get away and I do not want to run away. But this is a computer, or communication with a phone. Why do you not answer if you are in the United States of America, a citizen of the United States of America, of Israel, or in Israel, or where you are? Do not violate the Sabbath by posting on Theology Online. As it is you are holding me hostage to your way of seeing things and viewing the world. If I have committed a crime then tell me what it is. You said that you created threads for me, but then that you do not want to talk or communicate with me. As it is you hold me hostage to something you don't know, and continue with your control of others. That is not justice, that is justifying what you want to do with an unwilling participant. If you still believe that I cannot help you then I won't. Your time has run out. Because of the possibility of our discussion or communication one with the other, other people suffer, and the security of the United States of America is at stake while you are not even in the United States of America. We do not need your help to protect ourselves. I thought you were in Washington DC, but the time of posts has been off on this website in different ways at different times. We need to deal with Satanism here in the United States of America, while you perpetuate it from outside the States. Are you saying that you understand? Or, why do you speak against God's Law? You favor your incorrect understanding of the law of Christ, saying that Jesus changed the law, while I observe God's Law and accept the law of Christ and the New Covenant as for me. The New Covenant is for the house of Israel and the house of Judah. It is in Yeshua HaMashiach. It is God's law written on minds and hearts. If you are fighting terrorism, do not do it by saying that there is a commandment that has been annulled. Accept all of Scripture. The entire Law. For the Law was given that the world would be made accountable to God. We can govern our nation without your help. Do you need something or a name when you are not recognizing that anything has been done that is wrong? I do not need to hear from you again. But do not control us.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
ROFLOL That is just super paranoid. Your away out there is weird land now. That spirit of denial has much more control of you than I thought.

Jacob
July 19th, 2017, 12:57 PM
I said
ROFLOL That is just super paranoid. Your away out there is weird land now. That spirit of denial has much more control of you than I thought.
Shalom.

You are using the tactics of a Satanist. You are not a Pastor. Not even a fallen Pastor. When you speak of a spirit of control and denial, you are seeking to have control over others. You are attempting to gain control in a battle that you have not fought yet. Hopefully you are not fighting against me, and hopefully my response or responding to you does not perpetuate your condition or create a situation different from a digression, a situation that devolves or appears to devolve, regardless of the question of if there is a need for this to occur, if true justice would necessitate such a thing, or if it is just perceived. What devolution has occurred in my posting this to you I do not know. What do you believe that I have denied? I live at Seeley Lake Lodge in Lakewood, Washington. I am of Israel and a citizen of the United States of America. Where do you live? This has nothing to do with denial. You are fighting against something, can't say, or just want to avoid or be evasive by accusing me of denial or of denying something in response to my questioning who you have chosen to have control over and from where. You are not allowed to have control over me. Leave the United States of America and Israel alone. Treat others the way God would have you to treat them. Don't lie in wait for an opportunity to pounce. Do not lash out in anger. I do not want you to be easily offended by anything or anyone. If you have self-control you will not seek to have control over others. Your life is important. You matter to God. You are of great value to God. Seek and endeavor to obey God's Commandments. Find your joy, satisfaction, contentment, peace, value, and worth in God alone. May your understanding of salvation only to be found in Jesus Christ continue to increase.

Shalom.

Jacob

Squeaky
July 19th, 2017, 01:34 PM
Shalom.

You are using the tactics of a Satanist. You are not a Pastor. Not even a fallen Pastor. When you speak of a spirit of control and denial, you are seeking to have control over others. You are attempting to gain control in a battle that you have not fought yet. Hopefully you are not fighting against me, and hopefully my response or responding to you does not perpetuate your condition or create a situation different from a digression, a situation that devolves or appears to devolve, regardless of the question of if there is a need for this to occur, if true justice would necessitate such a thing, or if it is just perceived. What devolution has occurred in my posting this to you I do not know. What do you believe that I have denied? I live at Seeley Lake Lodge in Lakewood, Washington. I am of Israel and a citizen of the United States of America. Where do you live? This has nothing to do with denial. You are fighting against something, can't say, or just want to avoid or be evasive by accusing me of denial or of denying something in response to my questioning who you have chosen to have control over and from where. You are not allowed to have control over me. Leave the United States of America and Israel alone. Treat others the way God would have you to treat them. Don't lie in wait for an opportunity to pounce. Do not lash out in anger. I do not want you to be easily offended by anything or anyone. If you have self-control you will not seek to have control over others. Your life is important. You matter to God. You are of great value to God. Seek and endeavor to obey God's Commandments. Find your joy, satisfaction, contentment, peace, value, and worth in God alone. May your understanding of salvation only to be found in Jesus Christ continue to increase.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
lol You are paranoid and full of fear. Let me try to bring you back into reality. No one is trying to control you out side of yourself. Your on my thread where I am obligated to answer questions put on this thread. You can leave any time you choose. I think the problem is you are some kind of control freak and you manipulate people and because you cant manipulate me your threatened. All I'm doing is sharing thee verses that the Holy Spirit gives me. If you are convicted by them you have a choice. You can either leave or repent. But that spirit in you of denial wants you to gain control of me. And I know why he used to be in me when I was a child. But the Holy Spirit helped me to get rid of him. I guess he found you.

Jacob
July 19th, 2017, 01:52 PM
I said
lol You are paranoid and full of fear. Let me try to bring you back into reality. No one is trying to control you out side of yourself. Your on my thread where I am obligated to answer questions put on this thread. You can leave any time you choose. I think the problem is you are some kind of control freak and you manipulate people and because you cant manipulate me your threatened. All I'm doing is sharing thee verses that the Holy Spirit gives me. If you are convicted by them you have a choice. You can either leave or repent. But that spirit in you of denial wants you to gain control of me. And I know why he used to be in me when I was a child. But the Holy Spirit helped me to get rid of him. I guess he found you.
Shalom.

No. You are projecting your self upon me and something worse. You are against God's Law and your thread title says that Jews don't even keep the Law. Well, I am a Jew and I keep the Law. But you you seek control in that you are not keeping it.

Shalom.

Jacob

Squeaky
July 19th, 2017, 02:08 PM
Shalom.

No. You are projecting your self upon me and something worse. You are against God's Law and your thread title says that Jews don't even keep the Law. Well, I am a Jew and I keep the Law. But you you seek control in that you are not keeping it.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
lol Think about it. If I was really seeking control, I wouldn't keep telling you to leave. There is no logic in your paranoia. Your paranoid. If I could get you off my thread I would do it. I told you before your demon won't let you go. He is using you to get revenge on me. I'm just glad he isn't in me anymore.

Jacob
July 19th, 2017, 02:16 PM
I said
lol Think about it. If I was really seeking control, I wouldn't keep telling you to leave. There is no logic in your paranoia. Your paranoid. If I could get you off my thread I would do it. I told you before your demon won't let you go. He is using you to get revenge on me. I'm just glad he isn't in me anymore.
Shalom.

This is your control at work. You are psycho. I do not have paranoia. I do not have a demon. I belong to God. You control me by telling me to leave, and that is how you are justifying your sin and how you are justifying your desire to live in your sin apart from God and His Law. If you accept God's Law, let me know by sending me a private message. Telling me that you created threads for me and you want me to leave is one of the ways that you are controlling me. Are you trying to prove the statement that a Gentile cannot control a Jew false? You are living without God's Law, self-control, and you are not under control. Give God control of your life and you will not have to use false doctrine for camouflage. Bye. Shalom.

Shalom.

Jacob

Squeaky
July 19th, 2017, 03:17 PM
Shalom.

This is your control at work. You are psycho. I do not have paranoia. I do not have a demon. I belong to God. You control me by telling me to leave, and that is how you are justifying your sin and how you are justifying your desire to live in your sin apart from God and His Law. If you accept God's Law, let me know by sending me a private message. Telling me that you created threads for me and you want me to leave is one of the ways that you are controlling me. Are you trying to prove the statement that a Gentile cannot control a Jew false? You are living without God's Law, self-control, and you are not under control. Give God control of your life and you will not have to use false doctrine for camouflage. Bye. Shalom.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
lol Do us both a favor and get off my thread. Your not only paranoid but your getting really, really weird.

glorydaz
July 19th, 2017, 04:19 PM
I said
lol Your welcome to go with him.

I said....if you feel that way about him, why do you "go with him"?

glorydaz
July 19th, 2017, 04:20 PM
I said
lol Do us both a favor and get off my thread. Your not only paranoid but your getting really, really weird.

Sorry Squeaky. I didn't realize this was your thread and Jacob was the interloper. He can get quite annoying.

Squeaky
July 19th, 2017, 05:01 PM
Sorry Squeaky. I didn't realize this was your thread and Jacob was the interloper. He can get quite annoying.

I said
That's ok. I'm here to trade talents with Christians. Jacob is a little to weird for me. He is very paranoid.

Jacob
July 19th, 2017, 05:53 PM
I said
That's ok. I'm here to trade talents with Christians. Jacob is a little to weird for me. He is very paranoid.
Shalom.

You are incorrect.

Squeaky
July 19th, 2017, 06:04 PM
Shalom.

You are incorrect.

I said
ROFLOL Well there is one thing about that spirit of denial. He doesn't think before he answers. And apparently you don't think before you give into him.
Think about this how could that be incorrect. Its my statement about me what I can bear. Not you. So can you tell me where my level of to weird in others starts and ends?

Jacob
July 19th, 2017, 06:50 PM
I said
ROFLOL Well there is one thing about that spirit of denial. He doesn't think before he answers. And apparently you don't think before you give into him.
Think about this how could that be incorrect. Its my statement about me what I can bear. Not you. So can you tell me where my level of to weird in others starts and ends?

Shalom.

You said that I am very paranoid and I am not even paranoid.

The rest of what you said I do not understand or I do not understand what else you said or what you are asking.

Shalom.

Jacob

Squeaky
July 19th, 2017, 07:45 PM
Shalom.

You said that I am very paranoid and I am not even paranoid.

The rest of what you said

I do not understand or I do not understand

what else you said or what you are asking.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
lol You understood. Now your trying to cover up your blunder. Your fixing to get a lot worse. Your lies to cover up lies are getting bigger. Don't you see how that spirit of denial controls you and uses you.

Jacob
July 19th, 2017, 08:01 PM
I said
lol You understood. Now your trying to cover up your blunder. Your fixing to get a lot worse. Your lies to cover up lies are getting bigger. Don't you see how that spirit of denial controls you and uses you.
Shalom.

What did I understand?

Shalom.

Jacob

Squeaky
July 19th, 2017, 08:45 PM
I said
That's ok. I'm here to trade talents with Christians. Jacob is a little to weird for me. He is very paranoid.




Shalom.

What did I understand?

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
Out of that statement you claim you only understood the last word?

Jacob
July 19th, 2017, 08:48 PM
I said
Out of that statement you claim you only understood the last word?
understand

Squeaky
July 19th, 2017, 08:56 PM
understand

I said
lol That is your reply. It is starting to make sense now, if your that ignorant over a little statement there is no way you could ever understand the bible. It also explains why you got kicked out of Christianity.

Matt 15:13
13 But He answered and said, "Every plant which My heavenly Father has not planted will be uprooted.
(NKJ)

glorydaz
July 19th, 2017, 09:08 PM
I said
ROFLOL Well there is one thing about that spirit of denial. He doesn't think before he answers. And apparently you don't think before you give into him.
Think about this how could that be incorrect. Its my statement about me what I can bear. Not you. So can you tell me where my level of to weird in others starts and ends?

Most of us just give up on him. Personally, I think he's starving for attention, and plays stupid. When he was here before under the name untellectual, he wasn't nearly this obtuse.

Jacob
July 19th, 2017, 09:14 PM
I said
lol That is your reply. It is starting to make sense now, if your that ignorant over a little statement there is no way you could ever understand the bible. It also explains why you got kicked out of Christianity.

Matt 15:13
13 But He answered and said, "Every plant which My heavenly Father has not planted will be uprooted.
(NKJ)
Shalom.

No. A statement is not a question.

Shalom.

Jacob

Jacob
July 19th, 2017, 09:15 PM
Most of us just give up on him. Personally, I think he's starving for attention, and plays stupid. When he was here before under the name untellectual, he wasn't nearly this obtuse.
Shalom.

I did not leave I just asked to use my name.

Shalom.

Jacob

Squeaky
July 19th, 2017, 09:15 PM
Most of us just give up on him. Personally, I think he's starving for attention, and plays stupid. When he was here before under the name untellectual, he wasn't nearly this obtuse.

I said
ROFLOL I remember that idiot. I think your right about that starving for attention. And I agree the dumb act is an act. He uses that to escape being questioned about what he has said. Really no one can be as stupid as he acts some times. Maybe that is what made him paranoid. Thanks for the information.

Squeaky
July 19th, 2017, 09:19 PM
Shalom.

I did not leave I just asked to use my name.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
lol You are an idiot. That guile goes much deeper than I thought. Don't you know that no real Christian ever goes back to the old testament. They will fall from grace. And be subject to the whole entire old testament.

Gal 5:1-4

1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free, and do not be entangled again with a yoke of bondage.
2 Indeed I, Paul, say to you that if you become circumcised, Christ will profit you nothing.
3 And I testify again to every man who becomes circumcised that he is a debtor to keep the whole law.
4 You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace.
(NKJ)

Jacob
July 19th, 2017, 09:21 PM
I said
ROFLOL I remember that idiot. I think your right about that starving for attention. And I agree the dumb act is an act. He uses that to escape being questioned about what he has said. Really no one can be as stupid as he acts some times. Maybe that is what made him paranoid. Thanks for the information.
Shalom.

No. I was told I was paranoid after the destruction of the World Trade Centers on 9-11-2001. I am not paranoid. I serve the one true God, the Creator of Heaven and Earth.

Shalom.

Jacob

Jacob
July 19th, 2017, 09:22 PM
I said
lol You are an idiot. That guile goes much deeper than I thought. Don't you know that no real Christian ever goes back to the old testament. They will fall from grace. And be subject to the whole entire old testament.

Gal 5:1-4

1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free, and do not be entangled again with a yoke of bondage.
2 Indeed I, Paul, say to you that if you become circumcised, Christ will profit you nothing.
3 And I testify again to every man who becomes circumcised that he is a debtor to keep the whole law.
4 You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace.
(NKJ)
Shalom.

The old testament, as you call it, was not something to go back to.

Shalom.

Jacob

glorydaz
July 19th, 2017, 09:28 PM
Shalom.

I did not leave I just asked to use my name.

Shalom.

Jacob

Why are you arguing with me?

Jacob
July 19th, 2017, 09:30 PM
Why are you arguing with me?Shalom.

I am not arguing with you. Why are you talking about me?

Shalom.

Jacob

Squeaky
July 19th, 2017, 09:30 PM
Shalom.

No. I was told I was paranoid after the destruction of the World Trade Centers on 9-11-2001. I am not paranoid. I serve the one true God, the Creator of Heaven and Earth.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
Now we know where your paranoia started.

glorydaz
July 19th, 2017, 09:32 PM
Shalom.

I am not arguing with you. Why are you talking about me?

Shalom.

Jacob

Because you like it.

Squeaky
July 19th, 2017, 09:32 PM
Shalom.

The old testament, as you call it, was not something to go back to.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
Its the only place you can go when you have fallen from grace.

Gal 5:1-4

1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free, and do not be entangled again with a yoke of bondage.
2 Indeed I, Paul, say to you that if you become circumcised, Christ will profit you nothing.
3 And I testify again to every man who becomes circumcised that he is a debtor to keep the whole law.
4 You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace.
(NKJ)

Jacob
July 19th, 2017, 09:38 PM
I said
Now we know where your paranoia started.Shalom.

I do not have paranoia. Paranoia and fear are different. We are to fear God alone and in Him we have nothing to fear. Perfect love casts out fear. And, God is love.

1 John 4:18 NASB - There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear involves punishment, and the one who fears is not perfected in love.

1 John 2:5 NASB - but whoever keeps His word, in him the love of God has truly been perfected. By this we know that we are in Him:

1 John 4:12 NASB - No one has seen God at any time; if we love one another, God abides in us, and His love is perfected in us.

1 John 4:17 NASB - By this, love is perfected with us, so that we may have confidence in the day of judgment; because as He is, so also are we in this world.

Shalom.

Jacob

Jacob
July 19th, 2017, 09:39 PM
Because you like it.Shalom.

You are sick. Why do you think or believe that I would desire to be talked about or ill-spoken of?

Shalom.

Jacob

Jacob
July 19th, 2017, 09:41 PM
I said
Its the only place you can go when you have fallen from grace.

Gal 5:1-4

1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free, and do not be entangled again with a yoke of bondage.
2 Indeed I, Paul, say to you that if you become circumcised, Christ will profit you nothing.
3 And I testify again to every man who becomes circumcised that he is a debtor to keep the whole law.
4 You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace.
(NKJ)
Shalom.

Do you mean back to the law or do you not mean back to the law?

Shalom.

Jacob

Squeaky
July 19th, 2017, 09:53 PM
Shalom.

Do you mean back to the law or do you not mean back to the law?

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
lol Take a wild guess, tell me what you think this means.

1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free, and do not be entangled again with a yoke of bondage.
2 Indeed I, Paul, say to you that if you become circumcised, Christ will profit you nothing.
3 And I testify again to every man who becomes circumcised that he is a debtor to keep the whole law.
4 You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace.
(NKJ)

Jacob
July 19th, 2017, 09:58 PM
I said
lol Take a wild guess, tell me what you think this means.

1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free, and do not be entangled again with a yoke of bondage.
2 Indeed I, Paul, say to you that if you become circumcised, Christ will profit you nothing.
3 And I testify again to every man who becomes circumcised that he is a debtor to keep the whole law.
4 You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace.
(NKJ)
Shalom.

How would a person who is without the Law go back to the Law?

Shalom.

Jacob

Squeaky
July 19th, 2017, 10:07 PM
Shalom.

How would a person who is without the Law go back to the Law?

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
You are an idiot. Circumcision is what anybody had to do in the old testament to be a Jew. That was how they became a believer. That is what you done. Which means by that one step you have become a debtor to keep the whole law. And now you teach the old testament law. Which makes you an antichrist.


Gal 5:1-4

1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free, and do not be entangled again with a yoke of bondage.
2 Indeed I, Paul, say to you that if you become circumcised, Christ will profit you nothing.
3 And I testify again to every man who becomes circumcised that he is a debtor to keep the whole law.
4 You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace.
(NKJ)

Jacob
July 19th, 2017, 10:13 PM
I said
You are an idiot. Circumcision is what anybody had to do in the old testament to be a Jew. That was how they became a believer. That is what you done. Which means by that one step you have become a debtor to keep the whole law. And now you teach the old testament law. Which makes you an antichrist.


Gal 5:1-4

1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free, and do not be entangled again with a yoke of bondage.
2 Indeed I, Paul, say to you that if you become circumcised, Christ will profit you nothing.
3 And I testify again to every man who becomes circumcised that he is a debtor to keep the whole law.
4 You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace.
(NKJ)
Shalom.

I am circumcised, yes. That much is correct.

Shalom.

Jacob

Squeaky
July 19th, 2017, 10:15 PM
Shalom.

I am circumcised, yes. That much is correct.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
And you have fallen from grace. That is correct.

Jacob
July 19th, 2017, 10:16 PM
I said
And you have fallen from grace. That is correct.Shalom.

That is incorrect.

Shalom.

Jacob

Squeaky
July 19th, 2017, 10:25 PM
Shalom.

That is incorrect.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
Ok one more time. If you join in anything in the old testament, you are a debtor to keep the whole law. Just for going back to the old testament it makes you a debtor to keep the whole law. And when you do that you have fallen from grace.


Gal 5:1-4

1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free, and do not be entangled again with a yoke of bondage.
2 Indeed I, Paul, say to you that if you become circumcised, Christ will profit you nothing.
3 And I testify again to every man who becomes circumcised that he is a debtor to keep the whole law.
4 You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace.
(NKJ)

Jacob
July 19th, 2017, 10:30 PM
I said
Ok one more time. If you join in anything in the old testament, you are a debtor to keep the whole law. Just for going back to the old testament it makes you a debtor to keep the whole law. And when you do that you have fallen from grace.


Gal 5:1-4

1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free, and do not be entangled again with a yoke of bondage.
2 Indeed I, Paul, say to you that if you become circumcised, Christ will profit you nothing.
3 And I testify again to every man who becomes circumcised that he is a debtor to keep the whole law.
4 You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace.
(NKJ)
Shalom.

You are incorrect.

Shalom.

Jacob

Squeaky
July 19th, 2017, 10:35 PM
Shalom.

You are incorrect.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
You really are an idiot. Denial, denial, denial. Lie to yourself, deceive yourself. Just take your demon and go. Go lie to someone else your really getting boring again. Everyone can see right through your deception. And paranoia.

Jacob
July 19th, 2017, 10:39 PM
I said
You really are an idiot. Denial, denial, denial. Lie to yourself, deceive yourself. Just take your demon and go. Go lie to someone else your really getting boring again. Everyone can see right through your deception. And paranoia.Shalom.

Who are you? I do not know what you mean by demon. And, I do not have a demon. It is impossible for me to fulfill your request.

Shalom.

Jacob

glorydaz
July 19th, 2017, 10:57 PM
Shalom.

You are incorrect.

Shalom.

Jacob

You mean to say that the Apostle Paul is incorrect....which is why you reject those verses. Just come right out and admit it.

Jacob
July 20th, 2017, 02:50 AM
You mean to say that the Apostle Paul is incorrect....which is why you reject those verses. Just come right out and admit it.
Shalom.

I have no problem with the Apostle Paul. I mean what? Admit what?

Now you as a woman are seeking to correct me a man on something that you do not know about, even in that the Apostle Paul said that a woman should not teach or exercise authority over a man.

Shalom.

Jacob

Squeaky
July 20th, 2017, 05:51 AM
Shalom.

Who are you? I do not know what you mean by demon. And, I do not have a demon. It is impossible for me to fulfill your request.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
Your just full of oxymorons. And you wonder why I call you an idiot. You ask me what a demon is. Then you claim you don't have a demon. If you don't know what a demon is you cant claim you don't have one. Your lying to say you don't have one if you don't even know what one is. Its a lie to say your not an idiot if you don't know what an idiot is. lying is a sin.

Squeaky
July 20th, 2017, 05:54 AM
Shalom.

I have no problem with the Apostle Paul. I mean what? Admit what?

Now you as a woman are seeking to correct me a man on something that you do not know about, even in that the Apostle Paul said that a woman should not teach or exercise authority over a man.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
Your an idiot. Your playing the hypocrite. You just said to me "what is a demon" which means you don't know nothing about them. Then you said you don't have one. Without even knowing what something is your spirit of denial jumps right in and starts denying it. Your tripping over your tongue a lot lately. Lying is a sin.

Jacob
July 20th, 2017, 10:10 AM
I said
Your just full of oxymorons. And you wonder why I call you an idiot. You ask me what a demon is. Then you claim you don't have a demon. If you don't know what a demon is you cant claim you don't have one. Your lying to say you don't have one if you don't even know what one is. Its a lie to say your not an idiot if you don't know what an idiot is. lying is a sin.


I said
Your an idiot. Your playing the hypocrite. You just said to me "what is a demon" which means you don't know nothing about them. Then you said you don't have one. Without even knowing what something is your spirit of denial jumps right in and starts denying it. Your tripping over your tongue a lot lately. Lying is a sin.
Shalom.

Apparently, I do not know what a demon is and I do not know what an idiot is. And you are calling me a liar and a hypocrite. What is needed is a correct definition. What do you mean by a spirit of denial? What do you believe is being denied or what do you mean by that?

Shalom.

Jacob

Squeaky
July 20th, 2017, 10:39 AM
Shalom.

Apparently, I do not know what a demon is and I do not know what an idiot is. And you are calling me a liar and a hypocrite. What is needed is a correct definition. What do you mean by a spirit of denial? What do you believe is being denied or what do you mean by that?

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
These are basic lessons for anyone learning the bible. If you don't know this, then you lied about knowing the bible. Which is another sin.

Jacob
July 20th, 2017, 10:46 AM
I said
These are basic lessons for anyone learning the bible. If you don't know this, then you lied about knowing the bible. Which is another sin.
Shalom.

You are incorrect.

Shalom.

Jacob

Squeaky
July 20th, 2017, 11:53 AM
Shalom.

You are incorrect.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
lol Remember when I told you that you would get worse? Your lies and guile from one to another are stacking up on you now. That spirit of denial is exposing you and bringing out the truth about you. And you cant cover it all up anymore. No matter what you say now, your exposing yourself as a liar somewhere else.

Jacob
July 20th, 2017, 12:57 PM
I said
lol Remember when I told you that you would get worse? Your lies and guile from one to another are stacking up on you now. That spirit of denial is exposing you and bringing out the truth about you. And you cant cover it all up anymore. No matter what you say now, your exposing yourself as a liar somewhere else.
Shalom.

I do not know what you are talking about. You are just talking. Please explain if you want to.

Shalom.

Jacob

Squeaky
July 20th, 2017, 01:21 PM
Shalom.

I do not know what you are talking about. You are just talking. Please explain if you want to.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
Your an idiot and you don't know it. You have the demon of denial and you submit to him. That is why you were kicked out of Christianity. You wouldn't resist the devil you just kept giving into him. That is why you are so ignorant of the new testament.

2 Pet 3:16
16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
(KJV)

2399 idiotes (id-ee-o'-tace);

from 2398; a private person, i.e. (by implication) an ignoramus (compare "idiot"):

KJV-- ignorant, rude, unlearned.

Matt 17:18-21
18 And Jesus rebuked the demon, and it came out of him; and the child was cured from that very hour.
19 Then the disciples came to Jesus privately and said, "Why could we not cast him out?"
20 So Jesus said to them, "Because of your unbelief; for assuredly, I say to you, if you have faith as a mustard seed, you will say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there,' and it will move; and nothing will be impossible for you.
21 "However, this kind does not go out except by prayer and fasting."
(NKJ)

Jacob
July 20th, 2017, 01:26 PM
I said
Your an idiot and you don't know it. You have the demon of denial and you submit to him. That is why you were kicked out of Christianity. You wouldn't resist the devil you just kept giving into him. That is why you are so ignorant of the new testament.

2 Pet 3:16
16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
(KJV)

2399 idiotes (id-ee-o'-tace);

from 2398; a private person, i.e. (by implication) an ignoramus (compare "idiot"):

KJV-- ignorant, rude, unlearned.

Matt 17:18-21
18 And Jesus rebuked the demon, and it came out of him; and the child was cured from that very hour.
19 Then the disciples came to Jesus privately and said, "Why could we not cast him out?"
20 So Jesus said to them, "Because of your unbelief; for assuredly, I say to you, if you have faith as a mustard seed, you will say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there,' and it will move; and nothing will be impossible for you.
21 "However, this kind does not go out except by prayer and fasting."
(NKJ)
Shalom.

You are incorrect.

Shalom.

Jacob

glorydaz
July 20th, 2017, 01:40 PM
Shalom.

I have no problem with the Apostle Paul. I mean what? Admit what?

Now you as a woman are seeking to correct me a man on something that you do not know about, even in that the Apostle Paul said that a woman should not teach or exercise authority over a man.

Shalom.

Jacob

Incorrect. There is neither man nor woman IN CHRIST JESUS. I am IN CHRIST, and you are not. Therefore I am to judge all things and will be judged by none. Especially one who has fallen from Grace as you have.

Squeaky
July 20th, 2017, 01:44 PM
Shalom.

You are incorrect.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
lolol You and that spirit of denial seem to fit together very well. That is what makes you an idiot.

Jacob
July 20th, 2017, 02:05 PM
Incorrect. There is neither man nor woman IN CHRIST JESUS. I am IN CHRIST, and you are not. Therefore I am to judge all things and will be judged by none. Especially one who has fallen from Grace as you have.
Shalom.

You are incorrect in what you have said. You do not know what you are talking about.

Shalom.

Jacob

Jacob
July 20th, 2017, 02:06 PM
I said
lolol You and that spirit of denial seem to fit together very well. That is what makes you an idiot.
Shalom.

What you are saying does not make sense.

Shalom.

Jacob

Squeaky
July 20th, 2017, 02:51 PM
Shalom.

What you are saying does not make sense.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
lol To you. You don't seem to realize your the only one that believes you. Nobody else does. Its just you and your denial demon. Think about how many times you say to others. I don't know what you mean, your incorrect, you don't know what you are talking about, your wrong. When you say that to most everyone doesn't that throw up a red flag that the problem is with you.

Jacob
July 20th, 2017, 02:59 PM
I said
lol To you. You don't seem to realize your the only one that believes you. Nobody else does. Its just you and your denial demon. Think about how many times you say to others. I don't know what you mean, your incorrect, you don't know what you are talking about, your wrong. When you say that to most everyone doesn't that throw up a red flag that the problem is with you.
Shalom.

No. You need to accept God's Word. I just point out when you are wrong. Why do you think you are correct and that I have a problem when you see an inadequacy when I admit or say that I do not know something? By the way, I did not say that what you said did not make sense to me. I said that it did not make sense. If it did not make sense to me only, then it would be up to you to communicate in such a way that what you say makes sense to me. Apparently you do not understand what I mean when I express my disapproval.

Shalom.

Jacob

Squeaky
July 20th, 2017, 03:13 PM
Shalom.

No. You need to accept God's Word. I just point out when you are wrong. Why do you think you are correct and that I have a problem when you see an inadequacy when I admit or say that I do not know something? By the way,

I did not say that what you said did not make sense to me. I said that it did not make sense.

If it did not make sense to me only, then it would be up to you to communicate in such a way that what you say makes sense to me. Apparently you do not understand what I mean when I express my disapproval.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
lolol Your really struggling to cover up now aren't you.

Jacob
July 20th, 2017, 03:16 PM
I said
lolol Your really struggling to cover up now aren't you.
Shalom.

Cover up what? What do you mean by struggling? I do not want to cover up anything for you, and I do not believe that I am covering up anything. What are you talking about?

Shalom.

Jacob

Squeaky
July 20th, 2017, 03:33 PM
I did not say that what you said did not make sense to me. I said that it did not make sense.

If it did not make sense to me only, then it would be up to you to communicate in such a way that what you say makes sense to me. Apparently you do not understand what I mean when I express my disapproval.



Shalom.

Cover up what? What do you mean by struggling? I do not want to cover up anything for you, and I do not believe that I am covering up anything. What are you talking about?

Shalom.

Jacob

I said \
Do you think you have ever helped me??? And how.

Jacob
July 20th, 2017, 03:45 PM
I did not say that what you said did not make sense to me. I said that it did not make sense.

If it did not make sense to me only, then it would be up to you to communicate in such a way that what you say makes sense to me. Apparently you do not understand what I mean when I express my disapproval.




I said \
Do you think you have ever helped me??? And how.
Shalom.

Who are you?

Squeaky
July 20th, 2017, 03:55 PM
Shalom.

Who are you?

I said
I'm the guy you have been talking to for months now. Focus your drifting off into that imaginary world of yours.

Jacob
July 20th, 2017, 03:56 PM
I said
I'm the guy you have been talking to for months now. Focus your drifting off into that imaginary world of yours.Do you have a name? My name is Jacob.

Shalom.

Squeaky
July 20th, 2017, 04:10 PM
Do you have a name? My name is Jacob.

Shalom.

I said
My name is Squeaky.

Jacob
July 20th, 2017, 04:16 PM
I said
My name is Squeaky.Where do you live Squeaky? I live in Lakewood, Washington.

Shalom.

Jacob

Squeaky
July 20th, 2017, 04:19 PM
Where do you live Squeaky? I live in Lakewood, Washington.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
I live in Oklahoma. Do you have any friends or family close by?

Jacob
July 20th, 2017, 04:39 PM
I said
I live in Oklahoma.Shalom.

Okay. Is Squeaky your real name or only your name on or for TOL, Theology Online?

My name is Jacob Mertens.

I am a Jew. I am a proselyte and a convert to Israel and Judaism. I read, study, observe, keep, and teach the Torah, God's Instruction, even His Commandments. Are you a Jew, of Israel, or a Levitical Priest? Are you a Prophet or a Teacher? Are you a Christian? Do you have a Faith or Religion? Are you a practicing Jew? Are you Sabbath observant?

Do you believe that I have ever helped you with anything?

I do want to help. If I have not already helped you, let me know how I can. Are you a Judge?

I am studying and training to be a Rabbi. I have an interest in one day serving the American People in the Office of President of the United States of America, if I am ever elected by the Electoral College of the United States of America. I am 36 years of age. I am male. I am a man. I do not belong to any Political Party, and I never will belong to any Political Party. I am a citizen of the United States of America. I was born at Riverton Hospital, which is basically in Seattle, Washington, on August 25th, 1980. I observe the Jewish Calendar, beginning with Aviv, the first month, as we see beginning with the Torah and in the Torah. I may make aliyah to Israel some day. I have never actually been there. I observe the Torah here in the United States of America.

I accept the TaNaKh and Matthew through Revelation.

I live at a temporary residence here in Lakewood, Washington, called Seeley Lake Lodge.

Shalom.

Jacob
I said
I live in Oklahoma. Do you have any friends or family close by?

No.

Squeaky
July 20th, 2017, 05:21 PM
Shalom.

Okay. Is Squeaky your real name or only your name on or for TOL, Theology Online?

My name is Jacob Mertens.

I am a Jew. I am a proselyte and a convert to Israel and Judaism. I read, study, observe, keep, and teach the Torah, God's Instruction, even His Commandments. Are you a Jew, of Israel, or a Levitical Priest? Are you a Prophet or a Teacher? Are you a Christian? Do you have a Faith or Religion? Are you a practicing Jew? Are you Sabbath observant?

Do you believe that I have ever helped you with anything?

I do want to help. If I have not already helped you, let me know how I can. Are you a Judge?

I am studying and training to be a Rabbi. I have an interest in one day serving the American People in the Office of President of the United States of America, if I am ever elected by the Electoral College of the United States of America. I am 36 years of age. I am male. I am a man. I do not belong to any Political Party, and I never will belong to any Political Party. I am a citizen of the United States of America. I was born at Riverton Hospital, which is basically in Seattle, Washington, on August 25th, 1980. I observe the Jewish Calendar, beginning with Aviv, the first month, as we see beginning with the Torah and in the Torah. I may make aliyah to Israel some day. I have never actually been there. I observe the Torah here in the United States of America.

I accept the TaNaKh and Matthew through Revelation.

I live at a temporary residence here in Lakewood, Washington, called Seeley Lake Lodge.

Shalom.

Jacob

No.

I SAID
Squeaky is the name on my social security card. And no you have never helped me. You have spread lies , blasphemed Jesus, played the antichrist. If you really want to help Jesus stop posting and start learning. Because at this point you have done more damage to Jesus than anyone else on the board.

Jacob
July 20th, 2017, 05:28 PM
I SAID
Squeaky is the name on my social security card. And no you have never helped me. You have spread lies , blasphemed Jesus, played the antichrist. If you really want to help Jesus stop posting and start learning. Because at this point you have done more damage to Jesus than anyone else on the board.
Shalom.

You are incorrect. Jesus is my Master, my Lord, my Savior, my Messiah, the Prophet foretold, and the Only Begotten Son of God. Without Him I would not be a Jew.

Shalom.

Jacob

Squeaky
July 20th, 2017, 05:43 PM
Shalom.

You are incorrect. Jesus is my Master, my Lord, my Savior, my Messiah, the Prophet foretold, and the Only Begotten Son of God. Without Him I would not be a Jew.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
The new testament says you have fallen from grace. And that if you don't abide(live) in the new testament doctrine of Christ you don't have the right God or the right Jesus. And we have already proven that. You are this antichrist.

[2Jo 1:7-11
7 For many deceivers have gone out into the world who do not confess Jesus Christ [as] coming in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
8 Look to yourselves, that we do not lose those things we worked for, but [that] we may receive a full reward.
9 Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son.
10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him into your house nor greet him;
11 for he who greets him shares in his evil deeds.

Zeke
July 20th, 2017, 05:45 PM
Jacob give Egypt and Persian sources some love because that's where your Hebrew OT traces back to, don't worry about it everyone claims/plagiarizes stuff they didn't actually invent.

Squeaky
July 20th, 2017, 05:49 PM
Shalom.

You are incorrect. Jesus is my Master, my Lord, my Savior, my Messiah, the Prophet foretold, and the Only Begotten Son of God. Without Him I would not be a Jew.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
Paul spoke of people like you. John spoke of people like you.
[1Jo 2:19
19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us; but [they went out] that they might be made manifest, that none of them were of us.

Jesus spoke of people like you. If you truly loved Jesus you would believe Him. You don't.

[Jhn 10:1-2, 8
1 "Most assuredly, I say to you, he who does not enter the sheepfold by the door, but climbs up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.
2 "But he who enters by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. ...
8 "All who [ever] came before Me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not hear them.