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CherubRam
July 6th, 2017, 03:11 PM
Fake News Alert: The story is not true.According to Pope St. Pius I (155 AD) Jesus never existed. The Catholic Popes first tried to destroy Christianity, but when that failed they worked to join Paganism to Christianity.Fake News Alert: The story is not true.



Fake News Alert: The story is not true.Link to story: http://www.corespirit.com/jesus-never-existed-archaeologists-make-shocking-discovery/Fake News Alert: The story is not true.

Fake News Alert: The story is not true.

CherubRam
July 6th, 2017, 03:14 PM
The Criminal History of the Papacy: https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vatican/esp_vatican30a.htm

CherubRam
July 6th, 2017, 03:39 PM
The sheep did not follow

John 10:8 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+10:8&version=NIV)
All who have come before me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not listened to them.
In Context (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+10:7-9&version=NIV) | Full Chapter (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+10&version=NIV) | Other Translations (https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/John%2010:8)

Luke 21:8 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+21:8&version=NIV)
He replied: “Watch out that you are not deceived. For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am he,’ and, ‘The time is near.’ Do not follow them.
In Context (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+21:7-9&version=NIV) | Full Chapter (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+21&version=NIV) | Other Translations (https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Luke%2021:8)

2 Peter 1:16 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20Peter+1:16&version=NIV)
For we did not follow cleverly devised stories when we told you about the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ in power, but we were eyewitnesses of his majesty.
In Context (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20Peter+1:15-17&version=NIV) | Full Chapter (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20Peter+1&version=NIV) | Other Translations (https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/2%20Peter%201:16)

daqq
July 6th, 2017, 03:44 PM
According to Pope St. Pius I (155 AD) Jesus never existed. The Catholic Popes first tried to destroy Christianity, but when that failed they worked to join Paganism to Christianity.



Link to story: http://www.corespirit.com/jesus-never-existed-archaeologists-make-shocking-discovery/

I wonder if those documents they say were found with him will ever see the light of day? Have you heard anything about that? Otherwise it is nothing more than hearsay.

CherubRam
July 6th, 2017, 03:44 PM
The first Christians who had the New Testament writings were called Judaizing Christians. The Popes killed the Judaizing Christians and burned the original scriptures, afterward they made their own Gnostic versions of those scriptures; adding Pagan notions they introduced them to the people.

CherubRam
July 6th, 2017, 03:49 PM
I wonder if those documents they say were found with him will ever see the light of day? Have you heard anything about that? Otherwise it is nothing more than hearsay.

It is a Archaeological fact. The Vatican keeps many secrets. We are fortunate that at times a little bit of truth leaks out.

CherubRam
July 6th, 2017, 03:51 PM
Pope God
In his encyclical, “The Reunion of Christendom” (1885), Pope Leo XIII stated that the pope holds “upon this earth the place of God Almighty.”
“The pope is as it were God on earth, sole sovereign of the faithful of Christ, chief king of kings, having plentitude of power, to whom has been intrusted by the omnipotent God direction not only of the earthly but also of the heavenly kingdom. . . . The pope is of so great authority and power that he can modify, explain, or interpret even divine laws.” (translated from Lucius Ferraris, Prompta Bibliotheca, art. “Papa,” II, Vol. VI, pp.26-29)

Pope Leo XIII said these things about the role of the Papacy and the Roman Church:
Our thoughts went out towards the immense multitude of those who are strangers to the gladness that filled all Catholic hearts: some because they lie in absolute ignorance of the Gospel; others because they dissent from the Catholic belief, though they bear the name of Christians.

This thought has been, and is, a source of deep concern to Us; for it is impossible to think of such a large portion of mankind deviating, as it were, from the right path, as they move away from Us, and not experience a sentiment of innermost grief. But since We hold upon this earth the place of God Almighty...
But the supreme teacher in the Church is the Roman Pontiff. Union of minds, therefore, requires, together with a perfect accord in the one faith, complete submission and obedience of will to the Church and to the Roman Pontiff, as to God Himself.

Vicarius Filii Dei (Latin: Vicar or Representative of the Son of God) is a phrase first used in the forged medieval Donation of Constantine to refer to Saint Peter, a leader of the Early Christian Church and regarded as the first Pope by the Catholic Church.

2 Thessalonians 2:4
4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.

daqq
July 6th, 2017, 03:53 PM
It is a Archaeological fact. The Vatican keeps many secrets. We are fortunate that at times a little bit of truth leaks out.

Well, I see the mummy, but nothing about the actual texts they say were found with him. I'm not saying the texts do not exist but hoping the writings will one day see the light of day, (that is an idiom for, "be shared with the public", :)).

CherubRam
July 6th, 2017, 03:54 PM
Pope Gregory the Great’s words to a missionary: ‘You must not interfere with any traditional belief or religious observance that can be harmonized with Christianity’ (qtd. in Laing 130).
Christianity was not ashamed to borrow from pagan culture is amply shown by Durant: ‘Christianity did not destroy paganism; it adopted it’ (Caesar 595).

CherubRam
July 6th, 2017, 03:56 PM
Roman popes and forgeries
The proclamation of the "two swords doctrine" and the absolute neccessity of "every human creature" being subject to the pope of Rome for salvation made in Unam Sanctum were not new claims, but were the result of a group of fraudlent, forgeries that contained "decrees", that while were completely fraudlent deceptions, formed the foundational basis for the radical reconstruction of the constitution of the church of Rome and the development of the Roman papacy and the Roman church from the 8th and 9th centuries onward.

The first, "The Donation of Constantine" appeared in the 8th century during a period when Rome was involved in disputes with the Carolingians kings of France.

The "Donation of Constantine" is a well-known fraud used by the papacy for more than 10 centuries to strengthen its position and power. Though it claims to have been granted by Constantine to Sylvester, bishop of Rome in the 4th century, it was actually written sometime in the mid-8th century.

The "Donation" contained a "decree", a fraudulent decree, made to appear to be granted by Constantine, the Emperor of the Roman Empire in the 4th century, dominion and supreme rulership of both the Church and the kingdoms of the world, which was asserted by Boniface VII in Unam Sanctum:
I together with all our satraps and the whole senate and the nobles and all the Roman people, who are subject to the glory of our rule—considered it advisable that, as on earth he (Peter) is seen to have been constituted vicar of the Son of God, so the pontiffs, who are the representatives of that same chief of the apostles, should obtain from us and our empire the power of a supremacy greater than the earthly clemency of our imperial serenity is seen to have had conceded to it,—we choosing that same prince of the apostles, or his vicars, to be our constant intercessors with God. And, to the extent of our earthly imperial power, we decree that his holy Roman church shall be honoured with veneration; and that, more than our empire and earthly throne, the most sacred seat of St. Peter shall be gloriously exalted; we giving to it the imperial power, and dignity of glory, and vigour and honour.---Donation of Constantine
The last line, "we giving to it the imperial power, and dignity of glory, and vigour and honour", was a fraudulent deception that deceptively "decreed" that the Roman pope was the holder of "the imperial power" in the western part of the Empire, and of the kingdoms of the whole world, after Constantine had moved the capital of the Empire from Rome to Constantinople, and fraudulently made it appear to be legitimate from antiquity. But the entire "decree" was a deceptive fraud, containing no truth whatsoever.

In addition, the "Donation", futhermore fraudulently presented Roman papal supremacy over the whole Church, making the popes of Rome Emperors of the whole world, when the Church had never recognized the claims of dominion Rome had asserted, and is antithetical to Christ's infallible proclamation, "My kingdom is not of this world", as well as Paul's infallible teaching of Romans 13:
1 Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God. 2 Therefore whoever resists the authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to evil. Do you want to be unafraid of the authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same. 4 For he is God’s minister to you for good. But if you do evil, be afraid; for he does not bear the sword in vain; for he is God’s minister, an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil. 5 Therefore you must be subject, not only because of wrath but also for conscience’ sake. 6 For because of this you also pay taxes, for they are God’s ministers attending continually to this very thing. 7 Render therefore to all their due: taxes to whom taxes are due, customs to whom customs, fear to whom fear, honor to whom honor.
Those claims as well as being in direct opposition to the teaching of Jesus, Paul and the Apostles, and advanced by Augustine in his work,"The City of God", in which Augustine follows Jesus, Paul and the Apostolic Tradition recorded and preserved in the Holy Scriptures of there being two "cities", the "city of man" and the "City of God", with the two being eternally distinct, and whereby the Church represents the "City of God", and civil governments representing the "city of man", of whom Paul directs Romans 13 toward.

But in the coronation of the pope's of Rome when they still crowned the pope with the "tiara" the following words being recited:
“Receive the tiara adorned with three crowns and know that thou art Father of princes and kings, Ruler of the world, Vicar of our Savior Jesus Christ.”
If this phraseology had not been instituted by long usage, being decreed in the "Donation" and "Pseudo-Isidorian Decretals" it would not have been used by subsequent generations in to express the supreme rulership of popes over the ecclessial, political and social systems.


Therefore we have the pope's of Rome claiming to be Emperor of the world and the Church, doing so illegitimately by the deception of fraudulent forgeries.


And we ordain and decree that he shall have the supremacy as well over the four chief seats Antioch, Alexandria, Constantinople and Jerusalem, as also over all the churches of God in the whole world. And he who for the time being shall be pontiff of that holy Roman church shall be more exalted than, and chief over, all the priests of the whole world; and, according to his judgment, everything which is to be provided for the service of God or the stability of the faith of the Christians is to be administered. It is indeed just, that there the holy law should have the seat of its rule where the founder of holy laws, our Saviour, told St. Peter to take the chair of the apostleship---Donation of Constantine
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/donatconst.html (http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/donatconst.html)



Philip Schaff, whom Trento is fond of citing when thinking, mistakenly, that Schaff promotes a "pro-Roman papacy" position, describes the "Donation" in this way:
The Donation of Constantine … is an older forgery …. It affirms that Constantine, when he was baptized by pope Sylvester, a.d. 324 (he was not baptized till 337, by the Arian bishop Eusebius of Nicomedia), presented him with the Lateran palace and all imperial insignia, together with the Roman and Italian territory. The object of this forgery was to antedate by five centuries the temporal power of the papacy, which rests on the donations of Pepin and Charlemagne. The only foundation in fact is the donation of the Lateran palace, which was originally the palace of the Lateran family, then of the emperors, and last of the popes. The wife of Constantine, Fausta, resided in it, and on the transfer of the seat of empire to Constantinople, he left it to Sylvester, as the chief of the Roman clergy and nobility. Hence it contains to this day the pontifical throne with the inscription: "Haec est papalis sedes et pontificalis." There the pope takes possession of the see of Rome. But the whole history of Constantine and his successors shows conclusively that they had no idea of transferring any part of their temporal sovereignty to the Roman pontiff.
History of the Christian Church, (1910 edition) Volume IV, Chapter IV (http://graciouscall.com/books/history/4_ch04.htm), 60, by Philip Schaff
For centuries the deception of the "Donation" did it's fraudlent magic, being assumed by all to be genuine, deceiving even the likes of Thomas Aquinas and many, many others, and was used by the popes of Rome to support their papal claims.

It was proven to be the fraud that it is in 1440 by Lorenzo Valla in his work, "Declamatio".

Nevertheless, on the basis of the forged document, the papacy maintained a spiritual dictatorship over most of the Church until the Reformation, and a temporal control of the papal states until, finally, in 1870, the last of the territory was taken over by Italy.


Within the fraudulent "Donation of Constantine" we have the groundwork laid, which Rome seized upon, to assert it's claims made since the "Donation" appeared, and are further advanced in Unam Sanctum thusly:
We venerate this Church as one, the Lord having said by the mouth of the prophet: 'Deliver, O God, my soul from the sword and my only one from the hand of the dog.' [Ps 21:20] He has prayed for his soul, that is for himself, heart and body; and this body, that is to say, the Church, He has called one because of the unity of the Spouse, of the faith, of the sacraments, and of the charity of the Church. This is the tunic of the Lord, the seamless tunic, which was not rent but which was cast by lot [Jn 19:23-24]. Therefore, of the one and only Church there is one body and one head, not two heads like a monster; that is, Christ and the Vicar of Christ, Peter and the successor of Peter, since the Lord speaking to Peter Himself said: 'Feed my sheep' [Jn 21:17], meaning, my sheep in general, not these, nor those in particular, whence we understand that He entrusted all to him [Peter]. Therefore, if the Greeks or others should say that they are not confided to Peter and to his successors, they must confess not being the sheep of Christ, since Our Lord says in John 'there is one sheepfold and one shepherd.' We are informed by the texts of the gospels that in this Church and in its power are two swords; namely, the spiritual and the temporal. For when the Apostles say: 'Behold, here are two swords' [Lk 22:38] that is to say, in the Church, since the Apostles were speaking, the Lord did not reply that there were too many, but sufficient. Certainly the one who denies that the temporal sword is in the power of Peter has not listened well to the word of the Lord commanding: 'Put up thy sword into thy scabbard' [Mt 26:52]. Both, therefore, are in the power of the Church, that is to say, the spiritual and the material sword, but the former is to be administered _for_ the Church but the latter by the Church; the former in the hands of the priest; the latter by the hands of kings and soldiers, but at the will and sufferance of the priest.
However, one sword ought to be subordinated to the other and temporal authority, subjected to spiritual power. For since the Apostle said: 'There is no power except from God and the things that are, are ordained of God' [Rom 13:1-2], but they would not be ordained if one sword were not subordinated to the other and if the inferior one, as it were, were not led upwards by the other.


For, according to the Blessed Dionysius, it is a law of the divinity that the lowest things reach the highest place by intermediaries. Then, according to the order of the universe, all things are not led back to order equally and immediately, but the lowest by the intermediary, and the inferior by the superior. Hence we must recognize the more clearly that spiritual power surpasses in dignity and in nobility any temporal power whatever, as spiritual things surpass the temporal. This we see very clearly also by the payment, benediction, and consecration of the tithes, but the acceptance of power itself and by the government even of things. For with truth as our witness, it belongs to spiritual power to establish the terrestrial power and to pass judgement if it has not been good. Thus is accomplished the prophecy of Jeremias concerning the Church and the ecclesiastical power: 'Behold to-day I have placed you over nations, and over kingdoms' and the rest.
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/b8-unam.html (http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/b8-unam.html)

Ever since the forgeries appeared, Rome has read the "decrees" of those forgeries back into the Scripture, twisting the Scriptures by back engineering the decrees of the forgeries into the Scriptures where they do not exist and are contrary to the meanings of the Scriptures and the declarations of God contained therein.

Prior to Unam Sanctum, were the Gregorian Reforms, which were based on the decrees of the "Donation of Constantine" and "Pseudo-Isidorian Decretals", of which Philip Schaff says:
The Hildebrandian or Gregorian Church ideal is a theocracy based upon the Mosaic model and the canon law. It is the absolute sovereignty of the Church in this world, commanding respect and obedience by her moral purity and ascetic piety. By the Church is meant the Roman Catholic organization headed by the pope as the vicar of Christ; and this hierarchical organization is identified with the Kingdom of God, in which men are saved from sin and death, and outside of which there is no ordinary salvation. No distinction is made between the Church and the Kingdom, nor between the visible and invisible Church. The Holy, Catholic, Apostolic, Roman Church has been to popes as visible and tangible as the German Empire, or the Kingdom of France, or the Republic of Venice. Besides this Church no other is recognized, not even the Greek, except as a schismatic branch of the Roman.
This ideal is the growth of ages. It was prepared for by pseudo-Isidor in the ninth century.

The pseudo-Isidorian Decretals went further: they identified the Catholic Church with the dominion of the papal hierarchy, and by a series of literary fictions carried this system back to the second century; notwithstanding the fact that the Oriental Church never recognized the claims of the bishops of Rome beyond that of a mere primacy of honor among equal patriarchs.
http://www.ccel.org/s/schaff/history/5_ch02.htm (http://www.ccel.org/s/schaff/history/5_ch02.htm)

Thus we have the foundation laid and the basis set for the astounding papal claims of Rome, which were to follow, and that basis and foundation being the deception of fraudulent forgeries. And since then, Rome reads everything those fraudulent forgeries assert back into Scripture and the early church fathers and disregard the overwhelming evidence against it.
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CherubRam
July 6th, 2017, 03:57 PM
Pope Gregory and Paganism.
The attitude of the Catholic Church toward paganism is best summed up by Pope Gregory the Great, in his words to a missionary: “You must not interfere with any traditional belief or religious observance that can be harmonized with Christianity.”
Not only were the Congregations divided by Gnosticism, but enticed by philosophy and paganism also, and there were geographic divisions as well.
Pope Gregory 540 – 12 March 604.

What were the Pagan beliefs harmonized with Christianity? Maybe the answer can be found by comparing Orthodox Judaism to Paganism.

CherubRam
July 6th, 2017, 03:59 PM
Gnostic's, Pagan's, and Secret Societies
Gnostic's, Pagan's, and Secret Societies have been like three frogs.

Secret Societies have been an unclean bird.

Test your skill at parables.
Do you know parables well enough to explain what I just said?

Since no one replied, I will offer some scripture for you to consider.


Unclean Bird and Three Frogs
Genesis 7:8 (http://biblia.com/bible/nkjv/Gen%207.8)
Pairs of clean and unclean animals, of birds and of all creatures that move along the ground,

Leviticus 11:13 (http://biblia.com/bible/nkjv/Lev%2011.13)
“‘These are the birds you are to regard as unclean and not eat because they are unclean: the eagle, the vulture, the black vulture,

Leviticus 20:25 (http://biblia.com/bible/nkjv/Lev%2020.25)
“‘You must therefore make a distinction between clean and unclean animals and between unclean and clean birds. Do not defile yourselves by any animal or bird or anything that moves along the ground—those that I have set apart as unclean for you.

Revelation 18:2 (http://biblia.com/bible/nkjv/Rev%2018.2)
With a mighty voice he shouted: “‘Fallen! Fallen is Babylon the Great!’ She has become a dwelling for demons and a haunt for every impure spirit, a haunt for every unclean bird, a haunt for every unclean and detestable animal.



Revelation 16:13 (http://biblia.com/bible/nkjv/Rev%2016.13)
Then I saw three impure spirits that looked like frogs; they came out of the mouth of the dragon, out of the mouth of the beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet.

Two head eagle is an unclean bird: https://www.google.com/search?q=two+...w=1024&bih=635 (https://www.google.com/search?q=two+head+eagle+/+Masonic&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAWoVChMIz7a3x9WLyQIVhCuICh2Ekwyy&biw=1024&bih=635)

The frogs are impure spirits. A spirit is the nature of a person, place, or thing. The beast are nations, or kingdoms.

When John wrote the book of Revelation, Roman soldiers were painting in blood dragons on their shields.

Masonic Dragon: https://www.google.com/search?q=Maso...w=1024&bih=635 (https://www.google.com/search?q=Masonic+/+Dragon&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAWoVChMIj-_yldiLyQIVCUaICh1-Mg2b&biw=1024&bih=635)

For thousands of years a dragon has been a symbol for Secret Societies: https://www.google.com/search?q=Orde...w=1024&bih=635 (https://www.google.com/search?q=Order+of+the+dragon&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAWoVChMI4qS-49mLyQIVz5WICh32-g_8&biw=1024&bih=635)

Shepherds as a parable
Isaiah 31:4 (http://biblia.com/bible/nkjv/Isa%2031.4)
This is what the Lord says to me: “As a lion growls, a great lion over its prey— and though a whole band of shepherds is called together against it, it is not frightened by their shouts or disturbed by their clamor— so the Lord Almighty will come down to do battle on Mount Zion and on its heights.

Isaiah 56:11 (http://biblia.com/bible/nkjv/Isa%2056.11)
They are dogs with mighty appetites; they never have enough. They are shepherds who lack understanding; they all turn to their own way, they seek their own gain.

Jeremiah 3:15 (http://biblia.com/bible/nkjv/Jer%203.15)
Then I will give you shepherds after my own heart, who will lead you with knowledge and understanding.

Jeremiah 6:3 (http://biblia.com/bible/nkjv/Jer%206.3)
Shepherds with their flocks will come against her; they will pitch their tents around her, each tending his own portion.”

Jeremiah 10:21 (http://biblia.com/bible/nkjv/Jer%2010.21)
The shepherds are senseless and do not inquire of the Lord; so they do not prosper and all their flock is scattered.

Jeremiah 12:10 (http://biblia.com/bible/nkjv/Jer%2012.10)
Many shepherds will ruin my vineyard and trample down my field; they will turn my (pleasant field / the earth) into a desolate wasteland.

Jeremiah 22:22 (http://biblia.com/bible/nkjv/Jer%2022.22)
The wind will drive all your shepherds away, and your allies will go into exile. Then you will be ashamed and disgraced because of all your wickedness.

Jeremiah 23:1 (http://biblia.com/bible/nkjv/Jer%2023.1)
“Woe to the shepherds who are destroying and scattering the sheep of my pasture!” declares the Lord.

Jeremiah 23:2 (http://biblia.com/bible/nkjv/Jer%2023.2)
Therefore this is what the Lord, the God of Israel, says to the shepherds who tend my people: “Because you have scattered my flock and driven them away and have not bestowed care on them, I will bestow punishment on you for the evil you have done,” declares the Lord.

Jeremiah 23:4 (http://biblia.com/bible/nkjv/Jer%2023.4)
I will place shepherds over them who will tend them, and they will no longer be afraid or terrified, nor will any be missing,” declares the Lord.

Jeremiah 25:34 (http://biblia.com/bible/nkjv/Jer%2025.34)
Weep and wail, you shepherds; roll in the dust, you leaders of the flock. For your time to be slaughtered has come; you will fall like the best of the rams.

Jeremiah 25:35 (http://biblia.com/bible/nkjv/Jer%2025.35)
The shepherds will have nowhere to flee, the leaders of the flock no place to escape.

Jeremiah 25:36 (http://biblia.com/bible/nkjv/Jer%2025.36)
Hear the cry of the shepherds, the wailing of the leaders of the flock, for the Lord is destroying their pasture.


Jeremiah 50:6 (http://biblia.com/bible/nkjv/Jer%2050.6)
“My people have been lost sheep; their shepherds have led them astray and caused them to roam on the mountains. They wandered over mountain and hill and forgot their own resting place.

Ezekiel 34:2 (http://biblia.com/bible/nkjv/Ezek%2034.2)
“Son of man, prophesy against the shepherds of Israel; prophesy and say to them: ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: Woe to you shepherds of Israel who only take care of yourselves! Should not shepherds take care of the flock?

Ezekiel 34:7 (http://biblia.com/bible/nkjv/Ezek%2034.7)
“‘Therefore, you shepherds, hear the word of the Lord:

Ezekiel 34:8 (http://biblia.com/bible/nkjv/Ezek%2034.8)
As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign Lord, because my flock lacks a shepherd and so has been plundered and has become food for all the wild animals, and because my shepherds did not search for my flock but cared for themselves rather than for my flock,

Ezekiel 34:9 (http://biblia.com/bible/nkjv/Ezek%2034.9)
therefore, you shepherds, hear the word of the Lord:

Ezekiel 34:10 (http://biblia.com/bible/nkjv/Ezek%2034.10)
This is what the Sovereign Lord says: I am against the shepherds and will hold them accountable for my flock. I will remove them from tending the flock so that the shepherds can no longer feed themselves. I will rescue my flock from their mouths, and it will no longer be food for them.

Amos 1:2 (http://biblia.com/bible/nkjv/Amos%201.2)
He said: “The Lord roars from Zion and thunders from Jerusalem; the pastures of the shepherds dry up, and the top of Carmel withers.”

Micah 5:5 (http://biblia.com/bible/nkjv/Micah%205.5)
And he will be our peace when the Assyrians invade our land and march through our fortresses. We will raise against them seven shepherds, even eight commanders,

Zechariah 10:3 (http://biblia.com/bible/nkjv/Zech%2010.3)
“My anger burns against the shepherds, and I will punish the leaders; for the Lord Almighty will care for his flock, the people of Judah, and make them like a proud horse in battle.

Zechariah 11:3 (http://biblia.com/bible/nkjv/Zech%2011.3)
Listen to the wail of the shepherds; their rich pastures are destroyed! Listen to the roar of the lions; the lush thicket of the Jordan is ruined!

Zechariah 11:4 (http://biblia.com/bible/nkjv/Zech%2011.4)
This is what the Lord my God says: “Shepherd the flock marked for slaughter.

Zechariah 11:5 (http://biblia.com/bible/nkjv/Zech%2011.5)
Their buyers slaughter them and go unpunished. Those who sell them say, ‘Praise the Lord, I am rich!’ Their own shepherds do not spare them.

Zechariah 11:8 (http://biblia.com/bible/nkjv/Zech%2011.8)
In one month I got rid of the three shepherds. The flock detested me, and I grew weary of them


Acts 20:28 (http://biblia.com/bible/nkjv/Acts%2020.28)
Keep watch over yourselves and all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers. Be shepherds of the church of God, which he bought with his own blood.

1 Peter 5:2 (http://biblia.com/bible/nkjv/1%20Pet%205.2)
Be shepherds of God’s flock that is under your care, watching over them—not because you must, but because you are willing, as God wants you to be; not pursuing dishonest gain, but eager to serve;

Jude 1:12 (http://biblia.com/bible/nkjv/Jude%201.12)
These people are blemishes at your feasts, eating with you without the slightest qualm—shepherds who feed only themselves. They are clouds without rain, blown along by the wind; autumn trees, without fruit and uprooted—twice dead.


As you can see there are good and bad Shepherds.

Micah 5:5 (http://biblia.com/bible/nkjv/Micah%205.5)
And he will be our peace when the Assyrians invade our land and march through our fortresses. We will raise against them seven shepherds, even eight commanders,...

Revelation 1:20 (http://biblia.com/bible/nkjv/Rev%201.20)
20 The mystery of the seven stars that you saw in my right hand and of the seven golden lampsticks is this: The seven stars are the messengers of the seven congregations, and the seven lampsticks are the seven congregations.

Proverbs 9:1 (http://biblia.com/bible/nkjv/Prov%209.1)
Wisdom has built her house; she has set up its seven pillars.

Revelation 3:12 (http://biblia.com/bible/nkjv/Rev%203.12)
The one who is victorious I will make a pillar in the temple of my God.

CherubRam
July 6th, 2017, 04:00 PM
Well, I see the mummy, but nothing about the actual texts they say were found with him. I'm not saying the texts do not exist but hoping the writings will one day see the light of day, (that is an idiom for, "be shared with the public", :)).
I will check the Internet and see if anything is out there.

CherubRam
July 6th, 2017, 04:03 PM
I wonder if those documents they say were found with him will ever see the light of day? Have you heard anything about that? Otherwise it is nothing more than hearsay.
The story is real. Here are some links to different sites: https://www.google.com/search?q=Jesus+never+existed&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

CherubRam
July 6th, 2017, 04:06 PM
I am telling everyone the truth. The first Pagan Christian Popes first sought to destroy Christianity.

CherubRam
July 6th, 2017, 04:45 PM
Fake News Alert: The story may not be true. The Alert also lacks documentation. Great!

Jonahdog
July 6th, 2017, 06:26 PM
I will check the Internet and see if anything is out there.

Ah yes, lets check the internet.

CherubRam
July 6th, 2017, 06:35 PM
Ah yes, lets check the internet.

Fake News Alert: The story is not true.

CherubRam
July 6th, 2017, 06:37 PM
Atheist think it is fun to tell lies.

Epoisses
July 6th, 2017, 06:51 PM
Fake News Alert: The story is not true.According to Pope St. Pius I (155 AD) Jesus never existed. The Catholic Popes first tried to destroy Christianity, but when that failed they worked to join Paganism to Christianity.Fake News Alert: The story is not true.



Fake News Alert: The story is not true.Link to story: http://www.corespirit.com/jesus-never-existed-archaeologists-make-shocking-discovery/Fake News Alert: The story is not true.

Fake News Alert: The story is not true.

SDA cult trash

Epoisses
July 6th, 2017, 06:52 PM
The first Christians who had the New Testament writings were called Judaizing Christians. The Popes killed the Judaizing Christians and burned the original scriptures, afterward they made their own Gnostic versions of those scriptures; adding Pagan notions they introduced them to the people.

Messianic Jews/Hebrew roots/SDA are Judaizing Christians and should be shunned like CherubRambo!

Nick M
July 6th, 2017, 07:54 PM
Simon bar Jonah is the first Pope. And his administration came to an end in Mid Acts. And described in Romans 11:11