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Gurucam
July 6th, 2017, 09:29 AM
Romans: 3 KJV N.T.
21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

One is justified freely as follows:

Acts: 13 King James Version (KJV)
39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.

Do you guys realize the absolute importance of the above?

The above said that everyone who esteem, use, invoke and promote the ten commandments inevitably sin and fall short of the glory of God.

The only way to not accrue (get) sin is to do away with the ten commandments.

So Jesus introduced righteousness of God without the ten commandments.

And now one is justified to transgress the ten commandments when one becomes a Christian.

You do not want to be under the ten commandments. Because when one esteems, uses, invokes and promotes the ten commandments, even in the slightest way, one brings forth only fruits onto death and no fruits onto God.

However when one transgress the ten commandments so as to please one's spirit/love, one brings forth only fruits onto God and no fruits onto death.

With respect to sex, procreation and coveting, one must covert (transgress the thou shall not covet' commandment) so as to have sex and/or procreate with the opposite sex, according to urging of one spirit/love. This is how one stops bringing forth children of the flesh, like Ishmael and start bringing forth children of God, like Isaac.

Jesus and God want to create God's kingdom of heaven on the surface of earth by filling the surface of earth with only children of God, like Isaac, without any children of the flesh, like Ishmael.

As plain as day the above is the literal message in the following revelation in the Holy scriptures:

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son (Ishmael): for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman (Isaac).

Are you esteeming, using, invoking and promoting the 'thou shall not covet' commandments on your spouse so as to keep him/her locked in a spiritless/loveless/carnal union with you. All you can have in that union is spiritless/loveless/carnal sex and bring forth only children of the flesh . . . it does not matter how many bible verses you recite and how much church you attend and how must forgiveness you are told you have.

No pope, pastor or priest can forgive sin. Confessing of sin does not earn forgiveness of sin. Confession of sins may have a value that is totally outside of forgiving sin.

Fact is what you soweth, you reap:

Galatians: 6 King James Version (KJV)
7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.

The above is only law of God.

Hebrews: 9 King James Version (KJV)
27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

When you go before the Spirit of Jesus on your judgment day, immediately after your physical death, only two things counts as follows:

1. whether, during your life on earth, you transgress the ten commandments so as to serve your spirit in harmony with the Holy Spirit
2. or instead, did you esteem, use, invoke and promote the ten commandments.

The first (#1) earn you heaven and latter (#2) earns you hell.

The above is the Christian truth, as literally stated in the Holy scriptures.

Gurucam
July 6th, 2017, 10:34 AM
Acts: 10 King James Version (KJV)
42 And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead.
43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.

The disciples were commanded, by Jesus, to preach and testify to the people that he, Jesus, was ordained by God to be judge of 'the spiritually aware' as well as 'the dead' (the spiritually dead)

Jesus enabled all the prophets to witness that those who believe in him shall have their past sins forgiven. This forgiveness of sin was a one time thing offered, 2000 odd years ago, to the Jews and others who discerned wisdom in, esteemed, used, invoked and promoted the ten commandments.

Forgiveness of sin is not an ongoing thing. If people did not abandon the ten commandments and embrace Christianity, when Jesus offered the opportunity 2000 odd yeas ago, then: They continue to accrue sin and face the consequences as if Jesus never came and never offered them that one time forgiveness of sin.

Galatians 5King James Version (KJV)
1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
2 Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.
3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.
4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.

Confession of sin is not for Christians. Sin is dead for Christians. Christians are permitted to do anything. They are always justified and glorified by God:

Matthew: 22 King James Version (KJV)
14 For many are called (to be Christians), but few are chosen.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified

Acts: 13 King James Version (KJV)
39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.

One can have nothing to confess, if one is called to be a Christian, justified to transgress the ten commandments and glorified by God.

Christians are called, justified to transgress the ten commandments and glorified, by God.

However Catholics and other spiritually dead people are not called, justified to transgress the ten commandments and glorified, by God. They are not Christians. They are not yet called to be Christians. They must first be 'converted', before they can be called to be Christians.

Catholics are 'the dead' (i.e. people whose spirits must be saved). They are the people in Peter/Satan church. They are in that church to be 'converted' They have to converted' before they are called to be Christian, in Paul's commission.

Catholics are in Peter's church. Peter was appointed to anchor a church and he was identified to be Satan:

Matthew: 16 King James Version (KJV)
18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
22 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.
23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.

1 Corinthians: 5 King James Version (KJV)
5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

Peter, who was Satan, was appointment because he was Satan. He was appointed to receive, people like himself, and save their spirits. Peter was appointed to save the spirits of the 'the dead' who came (were sent) to him. This, saving of the spirits of 'the dead,' is the keys to God's kingdom of heaven.

A person whose spirit/heart is saved is described as 'converted'. A person spirit/heart is saved when he/she cease having a heart/spirit that is waxed gross/covered over:

Only a converted person is given, by God, to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven:

Matthew: 13 KJV N.T.
10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:
15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

The people in Peter/Satan church are not Christians. They do not comprise and are not the body of Christ. They are simply spiritually dead people who are sent to that church to become spiritually aware.

When a person become spiritually aware they do not stay in Peter's church. They no longer need Peter & CO.. They may even persecute Peter's church, as Paul did.

Peter's church and commission are Jesus' Satanic church/commission. The dead are sent there so that their spirits may be saved, so that they can serve in the newness of their spirit. This is in preparation for their meeting with Jesus on the judgment day. It seems that Peter's church abandon their Jesus given mission and went about making-up their own.

Peter was Satan and he was expected to remain Satan. This is why Jesus appointed him to anchor his Satanic church. Peter knew and communed with only the physical Jesus. His entire commission and church is physically based. These are not the Christians

Paul's commission is totally different. Paul exemplify a Christian. Only those who are like (similar to) Paul are Christians and only they comprise the body of Christ. Paul knew and communed with the Spirit Jesus. Paul's entire commission is spirit and Spirit based. Paul's commission is anchored directly by the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God Jesus, Who is currently the Lord from and in, spirit heaven. They are the Christians

There are no human or other 'go between-ers' for Christians. All Christians are in personal individual and direct, intuitive communion with the Spirit of Jesus.

Gurucam
July 6th, 2017, 03:04 PM
Matthew: 16 King James Version (KJV)
18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
22 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.
23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.

1 Corinthians: 5 King James Version (KJV)
5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

The followers of Peter's church (Catholics) are 'the dead', i.e. people whose hearts/spirits are 'waxed gross'/covered over. Their spirits must be saved.

Peter, who was identified to be Satan by Jesus, was appointment to anchor a church by Jesus because he was Satan (i.e. Peter savor the things of man and not the things of God).

Peter was appointed to receive, people like himself (i.e. people who savor the things of man/flesh and not the things of God/spirit). They were sent to him for the destruction of their flesh/carnal state so as to save their spirits.

Only the spiritually dead (also called 'the dead') would need their spirits be saved. Peter was appointed by Jesus, to save the spirits of the 'the dead' who came (were sent) to him and his church. This, saving of the spirits of 'the dead,' is the keys to God's kingdom of heaven.

(there are many other traditions which hold that awaken one to one's own heart/spirit is the key to God's kingdom of heaven. These tradition offers nothing else, other than meditation techniques for awakening one to one's own heart/spirit)

Luke: 17 King James Version (KJV)
20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

A person whose spirit/heart is saved is described as 'converted', in the Holy KJV N.T.. A person spirit/heart is saved when he/she cease having a heart/spirit that is waxed gross/covered over. This is the only way that one can search his heart/spirit to know the Spirit of Jesus, and so be healed by Jesus:

Matthew: 13 KJV N.T.
15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

Peter was not appointed to offer Christianity. Peter was simply appointed to offer 'conversion' (spiritual awakening) to 'the dead'. This was the keys to God's kingdom of heaven.Peter was required to open the hearts of the dead, then simply set them on their way.

Spiritual awaken people need no further help from humans. They have to and will exit Peter's care and Peter's church.

Spiritually awaken people must serve in the newness of their spirit in harmony with the Spirit of God. To do this each spiritually aware/awaken person must discern and be led by the Spirit of Jesus, as discerned within his/her own heart/spirit.

The above requires one to search one's own heart/spirit. This is why one must first become aware of one's own heart/spirit. 'hTe dead' describes people who are not aware of their own hearts/spirits. They must become aware of their own heart/spirit before they can even consider being Christian.

Christianity is anchored totally on being led into all of one's works by the Spirit of Jesus, as discerned within one's own heart/spirit.

The Spirit of Jesus perfectly amalgamate two things as follows:
1. the the ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirations of one's own heart/spirit and
2. the will of God which is the Holy Spirit.

A spiritually aware person must stand totally alone with his awareness of his own spirit and with communion with the Spirit of Jesus (as discerned through his own spirit), in order to move any further.

By being led totally and only by the Spirit of Jesus, as discerned within his own heart/spirit, is how a spiritually awaken/spiritually aware person becomes a Christian/child of God/Saint.

The above Christian approach to life that spiritually aware people must take, was exemplified by Paul and only Paul, back then.

Only Paul achieve direct personal communion with the Spirit of Jesus. And only Paul received all his knowledge and guidance directly from the Spirit of Jesus.

Galatians: 1 KJV N.T.
1 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.

Ephesians: 3 King James Version (KJV)
16 That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man;
17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,
18 May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;
19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.

The usefulness of Peter and his church ends for 'the dead' when they become spiritually aware. Then all humans are on their own with only their awareness of their own spirit and the Spirit of Jesus.

At best, Peter was the vicar of converting 'the dead' to spiritual awareness. Only Paul can be the vicar of Christ.

Only Paul was an authentic Christian.

Peter and his church seemed to have remain Satan, i.e. people who savor the things of man ('seen' and material things) and not the things of God (spirit and 'not seen' things).

2 Corinthians: 4 King James Version (KJV)
18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.

Things that are 'seen' and temporal are:
1. 'earthly' thing
2. 'fleshly' things
3. 'material' things
4. 'Newtonian' ideas
5. 'what you see is all there is' things
6. 'things of man'
7. 'things of the spiritually dead (i.e. 'the dead')
8. 'things of Satan'
9. 'the physical, earthly, flesh and blood', 'seen' and temporal, son of man Jesus, who is not the Lord from and in, heaven
10 things that cen be detected only through our five physical senses
11. 'thing that Peter savor'

On the other hand things that are 'not seen' and eternal are as follow:
1. 'heavenly things'
2. 'spirit things'
3. 'quantum mechanical things
4. 'things that must be intuited through the faculties of oue spirit body
5. the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession/Spirit of Christ
6. the Holy Spirit.
7. things related to the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Jesus Who is the Lord in and from, heaven
8. the mansion in God's how which Jesus went ahead to prepare for Christians
9. the kingdom of God.
10. Jesus' throne of Glory.
11. the world that Paul discerned, on the road to Damascus.
12. the residence of the Lord Jesus.
13. the 'seat' from which the Lord Jesus rules.
14. the reality that is left when one dies.
15. the 'world' that spiritually aware people are aware of when they die.
16. the world that 'the dead' are tottally unaware of when they die.

The above is a short summary.

Peter/Peter's church had a precise mission from the physical Jesus. This was to awaken those who were aware of only the 'seen' and temporal world' to the 'not seen and eternal world'. Then, hand-off. This was his single-pointed mission which totally fitted his Satan and continuing Satan status.

Matthew: 16 KJV N.T.
23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.

Gurucam
July 7th, 2017, 07:17 AM
The usefulness of Peter and his church ends for 'the dead' when they become spiritually aware. Then all humans are on their own with only their awareness of their own spirit and the Spirit of Jesus.

The above is so, because 'the dead' savor 'seen' and temporal things which are 'things of man'. And spiritually aware people savor 'not seen' and eternal things which are 'things of God'. Peter and his church are anchored on Peter's Satanic level of awareness. This allows Peter & his church to savor only the things of man and not the things of God.

Peter and his church are defied and limited by:

Matthew: 16 King James Version (KJV)
18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
22 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.
23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.

1 Corinthians: 5 King James Version (KJV)
5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

At best, Peter was the vicar of converting 'the dead' to spiritual awareness. Only Paul can be the vicar of Christ.

Only Paul was an authentic Christian.

Peter and his church seemed to have remain Satan, i.e. people who savor the things of man ('seen' and material things) and not the things of God (spirit and 'not seen' things).

2 Corinthians: 4 King James Version (KJV)
18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.

Things that are 'seen' and temporal are 'thing of man'. They are as follows :
1. 'earthly' thing
2. 'fleshly' things
3. 'material' things
4. 'Newtonian' ideas
5. 'what you 'see' (i.e. discern through physical senses) is all there is' things
6. 'things of man'
7. 'things of the spiritually dead (i.e. 'the dead')
8. 'things of Satan'
9. 'the physical, earthly, flesh and blood', 'seen' and temporal, son of man Jesus, who is not the Lord from and in, heaven
10. things that can be detected only through our five physical senses
11. 'thing that Peter savor'
12. the preoccupation of 'the dead'.
13. the preoccupation of 'children of the flesh'
14. the preoccupation of Ishmael and his generations.
15. the preoccupation of Jews, law-Moslem and Catholics

On the other hand things that are 'not seen' and eternal are 'things of God'. They are as follow:
1. 'heavenly things'
2. 'spirit things'
3. 'quantum mechanical things
4. 'things that must be intuited through the faculties of oue spirit body
5. the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession/Spirit of Christ
6. the Holy Spirit.
7. things related to the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Jesus Who is the Lord in and from, heaven
8. the mansion in God's house which Jesus went ahead to prepare for Christians
9. the kingdom of God.
10. Jesus' throne of Glory.
11. the world that Paul discerned, on the road to Damascus.
12. the residence of the Lord Jesus, Who is the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Jesus..
13. the 'seat' from which the Lord Jesus rules.
14. the reality that is left when one dies.
15. the 'world' that spiritually aware people are aware of while the live physically and when they die.
16. the world that 'the dead' are totally unaware of while they physically live and when they die.
17. the preoccupation of spiritually aware people
18. the preoccupation of Christians/Saints/children of God.
19. the preoccupation of Abraham, Issac and Isaac's generations.
20. the preoccupation of Christians and other children of God.

The above is a short summary.

Peter/Peter's church had a precise mission from the physical Jesus. This was to awaken those who were aware of only the 'seen' and temporal world' to the 'not seen and eternal world'. That is, to aid the 'conversion' of 'the dead' to spiritual awareness . . . and not simply bury their charges ('the dead'), when they physically die, inside the earth in hell with Satan, together with their dead physical bodies for an indefinite or eternal stay.

After successfully aiding the spiritual awakening of their charge, then, it was hands-off, for Peter & Co.. Peter & Co. had to simply turn their spiritually awaken charges, over to Paul and Paul's commission.

The above was and continue to be the single-pointed 'Jesus given' mission of Peter and his church. This mission totally fitted Peter & Co. Satan and continuing Satan status and orientation.

Matthew: 16 KJV N.T.
23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.

At best, Paul is the vicar of Christ. At worse, Peter & co. stole that title and corruptly usurped it.

Squeaky
July 7th, 2017, 12:50 PM
Don't forget this. Jesus only sets those free who obey Him and His commandments.

[1Jo 2:4
4 He who says, "I know Him," and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

Gurucam
July 7th, 2017, 01:38 PM
Matthew: 16 King James Version (KJV)
18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
22 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.
23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.

1 Corinthians: 5 King James Version (KJV)
5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

The above is not a authority and/or sanction for Peter and his church to hear confession and/or forgive sins.

Peter was simply given the keys to God's kingdom of heaven. The keys to God's kingdom of heaven are also described as the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven.

The mission of Peter & Co. is to get 'the dead' who come to them to adopt and use these keys, while they live on earth

Those followers who Peter & Co. succeed in getting to adopt and use these keys, while they live on earth, shall be bind on earth and shall be also bound in heaven.

However those followers who Peter & Co. fail to get to adopt and use these keys while they live on earth, shalt be loose on earth and also shall be loosed in heaven.

The key to God's kingdom of heaven is to save the spirit of 'the dead'. They are sent to Peter & Co. so that their spirits may be saved. This is the mission of Peter and his church as given by Jesus.

This act of saving the spirit of those come to Peter & Co. is the key or keys to God's kingdom of heaven.

Jesus used 'the dead' to describe people who are dead to their own heart/spirit. People whose spirits must be saved are 'the dead'. They are also decries as having heart/spirits that are waxed gross or covered over or having a 'vail upon their heart'.

To cease being 'the dead' and become aware of one's own heart/spirit is the same as ceasing to have a heart/spirit that is waxed gross. This process is described as being 'converted'. This is an established term and phenomenon in the Holy KJV N.T.

The keys, to God's kingdom of heaven, which Peter & Co. got was the essential mystery of God's kingdom of heaven. Their mission was and continue to be, to simply aid the 'conversion' of 'the dead' to spiritual awareness (i.e. to beome aware of their own hearts/spirits).

By doing the above one becomes bonded to (spirit) heaven. Those who do not make this conversion are loose in (spirit) heaven.

It is all about becoming aware of one's spirit so that one have communion with Spirit. One has to be aware of one's own spirit to have communion with Spirit and soweth to Spirit.

'The dead' can soweth only to flesh.

Galatians: 6 King James Version (KJV)
7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.

If Peter & Co. fails to convert their charges to spiritual awareness, they are doomed. The never achive communion with the Spirit of Jesus. Jesus never come to know them and they are not known to Jesus.

They never soweth to Spirit while they live. They soweth to only flesh. When they die they have no awareness. Jesus, clad only in his spirit body, comes to meet every one when they die. However these people do not register to Jesus. They would be totally dead to all events in the spirit realm.

Then, in their unaware state, they are dragged by their buried or burnt, dead physical bodies into the depths of earth, in hell, with Satan for an indefinite or eternal stay.

On the other hand, if Peter & Co, succeed in converting 'the dead' to spiritual awareness and pass them onto Paul commission under authentic tutors and governors, they are blessed and fortunate.

Spiritually aware people have intuitive insights. Intuitive insight will be a new experience for newly spiritually aware people. This gives rise to the need for authentic tutors and governors for newly spiritually aware people.

Those intuitive insights of these newly spiritually aware people are reaffirmed in the direction of Christianity, by authentic tutors and governors for the Age of Enlightenment in Christ.

Then these newly spiritually aware people are set free to serve in the newness of spirit. 'Serving in the newness of spirit involve being led into all their works by precisely the Spirit of Jesus. Each of them has to search his own heart/spirit to discern what the Spirit of Jesus has in mind for him to know, pray for, say and do.

Then he/she has to be led into all of his works by this information and guidance, And he must do so even if he has to transgress the ten commandments, canons and/or other religious laws.

The above is how one know Jesus and is known to Jesus. This is also how one becomes a Christian, a child of God and a Saint. This is also how one is glorified by God.

This is also how one soweth to spirit and Spirit and reap everlasting life.

These people are the authentic Christians. Only they comprise the body of Christ.

When they die on earth, they remain aware of their spirit bodies and the spirit realm. Then they literally rise out of their dead physical bodies, clad only in their spirit bodies. Functioning in the spirit realm is nothing new to them.

Jesus meets them, clad only in his Spirit body. Indeed, they continue to know Jesus who come to meet them at that point and Jesus continue to know them. They rise, clad in their spirit bodies, with Jesus, to be like angels in heaven.

They go the mansion in God's house which Jesus went ahead to prepare for Christians.

Gurucam
July 7th, 2017, 02:55 PM
Peter was a disciple. Only the disciples were chosen by God to follow Jesus:

John: 6 KJV N.T.
65 And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.
66 From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.
67 Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away?

Only the disciples were given to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. The mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven are the keys to God's kingdom of heaven:

Matthew: 16 KJV N.T.
9 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven . . .

Matthew: 13 KJV N.T.
10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:
15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

Peter was given to anchor a church where 'the dead' may be converted to awareness of their own spirits. This is the essential key to God's kingdom of heaven which Peter and his church were given to implement.

Then the spiritually awakened ones leave Peter and his church and go the way of Paul. That is, they can access their own hearts/spirits and discern the Spirit of Jesus, within. Then Jesus could do the rest, i.e. heal them, inform them and guide them, from within each of their own hearts/spirits:

Galatians: 1 KJV N.T.
1 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.

Ephesians: 3 King James Version (KJV)
16 That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man;
17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,
18 May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;
19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.

Romans:8 KJV N.T.
26 Likewise the Spirit (of Jesus) also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit (of Jesus) itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit (of Jesus), because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

Romans: 3 KJV N.T.
21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

Acts: 13 King James Version (KJV)
39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.

The above is the Christian path. This is also the path to salvation and deliverance. If you are not yet there (i.e. if you are not like Paul), you have ways to go before you physically die. Get to it

Paul was not a disciple. He was simply an ordinary man (like any of us) who made it.

Gurucam
July 7th, 2017, 03:50 PM
Don't forget this. Jesus only sets those free who obey Him and His commandments.

[1Jo 2:4
4 He who says, "I know Him," and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

Indeed.

Jesus commandments is the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus:

Romans: 8 King James Version (KJV)
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

Jesus commandment (i.e. the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus) is that each of us be led into all of our own works by precisely what His Spirit has in mind for each of us to know, pray for say and do, as discerned within each of our own hearts/spirits, even if each of us has to transgress the ten commandments:

Romans: 3 KJV N.T.
21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

Acts: 13 King James Version (KJV)
39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.

The ten commandments (i.e. Moses commandments) is boo, totally out the window for Christians.

The billion strong traditional Christians cannot perceive the idea that the ten commandment must be transgressed to serve spirit and Spirit, far less to actually, willingly and deliberately transgress the ten commandments so as to serve spirit and Spirit.

They stumble at the first, most elementary, stumbling block. I am suspecting that Jews did a serious number on them.

Seems that Peter remained a Jew.

You cannot deny that although Peter's church is the Catholic church, Peter's reach is beyond the Catholic church and well within the very core of traditional Christianity.

Seems pretty obvious that the billion strong traditional Christians are 'the dead' who have not yet been 'converted'. This means that they are not even called to Christianity, far less to be chosen:

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

Acts: 13 King James Version (KJV)
39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.

Clearly a billion strong traditional Christians do not recognize or honor the justification they have to transgress the ten commandments so as to serve spirit and Spirit. This is denial of Jesus in favor of the Jews who denied, persecute, torture and killed Jesus:

1 Thessalonians: 2 King James Version (KJV)
14 For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews:
15 Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men:

One can sugar coat manure, they do not not become jelly donuts, they are still manure. This is simply a metaphor. Not by any means a literal comparison.

That is, one can dress-up a traditional Christian as much as one wants, he is still an O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments/under Jewish control/spiritually dead person and not a N.T./Christian/Jesus/spirit and Spirit/free/spiritually awaken person.

However they claim to be 'exclusively Christian'.

. . . evil prevails, on earth, in disguise but not in the spirit realm after one dies, physically and has to face judgment, at the hands of the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Lord Jesus.

Epoisses
July 7th, 2017, 09:04 PM
Don't forget this. Jesus only sets those free who obey Him and His commandments.

[1Jo 2:4
4 He who says, "I know Him," and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

Faith and Love are the new commandments, duh!

Gurucam
July 8th, 2017, 03:11 AM
The following is the only commandment of God. Accept it, adapt it, soweth as you will and reap accordingly:

Galatians; 6 King James Version (KJV)
7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.

Deny the above and you mock God.

God is a Spirit. To soweth to Spirit is to do the will of God.

Parroting foolish slogans like, "Faith and Love are the new commandments, duh!" counts for nothing.

Only doing the will of God (soweth-ing to Spirit) allows you to enter the kingdom of heaven. Nothing else works.

Matthew: 7 King James Version (KJV)
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? (and we have repeated a fine slogan in praise of you) and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Some people have faith in and love for their spouse and children and they believe that they are in heaven or they will enter heaven. They are mistaken

Jesus said:

Matthew: 10 King James Version (KJV)
34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

'Faith and love' can be had for just any thing, including Satan. 'Faith and love' is not the passage

Faith and Love cannot be the new or any other commandments, duh!

Faith and love by them selves counts for nothing.

Also faith in and love for, Jesus (before others), though very necessary, is not an end onto themselves.

At any event faith is belief in things 'not seen', so we are not talking about the physical, 'seen' and temporal, flesh and blood, earthly Jesus who is not the Lord from and in, heaven. We are talking about the Spirit, 'not seen' eternal, Son of God, Jesus, Who is the Lord from and in, heaven.

Faith in and love for, Jesus (before others) are necessary, so that one will ignore all others and be led, unconditionally, by precisely what the 'not seen' Spirit of Jesus has in mind for one to know, pray for, say and do, as discern within one's own heart/spirit.

What the 'not seen' Spirit of Jesus has in mind for one to know, pray for, say and do, as discern within one's own heart/spirit is a perfect amalgam of two things as follows:
1. the groaning within one's heart/spirit which one cannot utter and
2. the will of God

When one is led, unconditionally, by precisely what the 'not seen' Spirit of Jesus has in mind for one to know, pray for, say and do, as discern within one's own heart/spirit, one serves one's own spirit and does the will of God in perfect harmony. This is how one does the will of God and enters God kingdom of heaven.

The above is the literal message in the following:

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
26 Likewise the Spirit (of Jesus) also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit (of Jesus) itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit (of Jesus), because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

'groanings which cannot be uttered' refers to the ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirations that are the essential fabric of one's own heart/spirit. This is so because it is not only necessary to do the will of God (the Holy Spirit), it is also necessary to serve one's own heart/spirit:

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

Salvation, deliverance and Christianity is about serving one's own heart/spirit in perfect harmony with the Will of God. This is achieved by being led in all of one's works, unconditionally, by precisely what the 'not seen' Spirit of Jesus has in mind for one to know, pray for, say and do, as discern within one's own heart/spirit

The above is the work of the Spirit of Jesus. The Spirit of Jesus is the Spirit of Intercession. No one come onto the Holy Spirit, without going through the Spirit of Jesus.

The Will or Spirit of God is the Holy Spirit. Doing the will of God is to soweth to the Holy Spirit. And one can soweth to the Holy Spirit, only by going through the Spirit of Jesus/the Spirit of Intercession.

What the 'not seen' Spirit of Jesus has in mind for one to know, pray for, say and do, as discern within one's own heart/spirit is a perfect amalgam of two things as follows:
1. the groaning within one's heart/spirit which one cannot utter and
2. the will of God

Gurucam
July 8th, 2017, 06:02 AM
The following is the only commandment of God. Accept it, adapt it, soweth as you will and reap accordingly:

Galatians; 6 King James Version (KJV)
7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.

Deny the above and you mock God.

Hebrews: 9 King James Version (KJV)
27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment

Everyone faces judgment immediately after his/her own death. The Spirit of Jesus meets, judges and dispatches everyone in the spirit realm, after he/she dies.

The above is an on-going thing, since Jesus rose to spirit heaven, clad only in his Spirit body, 2000 odd years ago, and claim His throne of glory on the right side of the Holy Spirit:

1 Corinthians: 15 KJV N.T.
35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

Judgment is based on what one soweth during one's life on earth. After judgement Jesus separates and dispatches everyone to their appropriate destinations, according to their soweth-ing while they physically lived on earth.

There are just two destinations, after one dies. These are as follows (marked with :idea:):

Matthew: 25 KJV N.T.
31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
:idea: 34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
:idea: 41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

In case you have any doubts the following add clarity:

Luke: 13 King James Version (KJV)
28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.

As you ought to know, Abraham, Isaac and Isaac's generations are the soweth to spirit and Spirit people. Where as Ishmael and his generations are the soweth to flesh and the ten commandments people.

The single most critically important thing that one must learn, adapt and do, in this life is how to soweth to Spirit. This is the entire purpose of one current life on earth.

Soweth-ing to one's own spirit and the Spirit of God, in perfect harmony is how people in spirit heaven live. If one does not learn and become competent in soweth-ing to spirit and Spirit in this life on earth, when one dies, one does not go to heaven, instead one goes to that other sad and bad place.

Soweth-ing to Spirit requires one to be 'converted'. To be 'converted' is the mystery of and keys to, God's kingdom of heaven.

Only after being 'converted' does one have the God given, actualization/capacity to know how to soweth to spirit and Spirit and can actually soweth to spirit and Spirit, through the Spirit of Jesus. This is to be healed by Jesus:

Matthew: 13 KJV N.T.
10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:
15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

Foolish, simplistic statements like, "Faith and Love are the new commandments, duh!' can and will only deceive and undermine truth. Those are corrupt, incomplete statements issued by foolish spiritually dead people who falsely believe that they know Christianity. Such people plague and bring down Christianity by the millions. They comprise both witting and unwitting false prophets.

Matthew: 24 King James Version (KJV)
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

Matthew: 22 King James Version (KJV)
14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

One should make only complete statements and provide the accurate and literal verses from the Holy KJV N.T., to support the statement.

To simply stick in an incomplete one liner is totally insulting, disruptive and corrupt. There can be thousands of 'interpretations' of incomplete one line statements. This will make millions of people content on their own individual terms and so, deny them of the actual truth.

However that practice is the modes-operand and fabric of the billion strong traditional Christians. They are clearly not the few who have scriptures correct, do not err and are the chosen few.

Like they say in 'sums', a billion into a chosen few, simply 'can't go'. Even a couple hundred thousands into a chosen few, 'can't go'.

Clearly a billion strong traditional Christians cannot be the few who know scriptures (correctly), do not err and are the chosen few. The time to wake-up is now.

The time has come to ignore what you think you know and humbly ask questions. Do not seek to add or validate your erroneous 'patched-up' theologies . . . and totally stop using one liners.

It is better to use more words than less.

Gurucam
July 8th, 2017, 11:04 AM
There are no multiple paths to God's kingdom of heaven.

There is only one straight gate and one narrow way to eternal life in God's kingdom of heaven. And once again it is confirmed that only a few ever find it (so much for a billion strong traditional Christians):

Matthew: 7 King James Version (KJV)
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Clearly, if one is seeking to find the straight gate and narrow way that leadeth to eternal life in God's kingdom of heaven, it is totally not advisable to be among the billion strong traditional Christians.

It is confirmed that God's kingdom of heaven is within you.

Luke: 17 King James Version (KJV)
20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

After Jesus' death, 2000 odd years ago, He rose to God's kingdom of heaven, clad only in His Spirit body and claimed his throne of glory, at the right side of the Holy Spirit. And, since then, and from that position, clad only in His Spirit body, Jesus has been ready, willing and able to make intercession for Christians/Saints with the Holy Spirit:

1 Corinthians: 15 KJV N.T.
35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.


We (Christians/Saints) are instructed to search our hearts to discern the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession:

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
26 Likewise the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession) also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession) itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession), because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

Therefore we were told in no uncertain terms that the kingdom of God is within, us. Now the above tells us that Christians/Saints will reach Jesus, who went to God's kingdom when he died, by searching their own hearts/spirits.

Therefore God's kingdom of heaven is within us, in our hearts/spirit.

And every humans, every where, regardless of their tradition can and must reach God's kingdom of heaven, only by going through his/her own heart/spirit.

This is why in every (spiritual) tradition and in every approach to entering God's kingdom of heaven, one has to be 'converted'.

Being 'converted' is the essential key to God's kingdom of heaven. And also the essential mystery to/of God's kingdom of heaven, in every tradition.

To be 'converted' is simply to become aware of or awakened to, one's one heart/spirit. One has to become aware of or awakened to, one's own heart/spirit, before one can even attempt to seek entry to God's kingdom of heaven.

This tells us that there are people who are not aware of or awakened to their own heart/spirit. They are described as 'the dead' by Jesus. They are also described as, 'people whose spirits must be saved, before the die and meet-up with Jesus who will be clad only in His Spirit body.

All spiritual traditions are anchored on on 'the dead' becoming spiritually aware and going through one's own spirit to reach and have communion with, people and things related to God's kingdom of heaven.

They all recognize the fundamental key/mystery to God's kingdom of heaven is to have a heart that is not waxed gross/covered over (i.e. to cease being 'the dead'.

However spiritual traditions do vary in at least two ways, as follows:
1. they use different paths and different techniques to awaken spiritually dead humans to their own hearts/spirits.
2. people in different traditions go to different Lords in heaven, when they die.

The following relate to point # 1 above:

Although there is only one gate and one way to God's kingdom of heaven. And this is to become spiritually aware/spiritually awakened. However there are different ways to become spiritually aware.

The following relate to point # 2 above:

Jesus, who is the only Lord for Christians and not God, said the following to Christians, i.e. those who actually follow him to heaven:

John: 14 King James Version (KJV)
2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

Jesus is saying that he did not go to usurp all the mansion in God's house, in heaven. Jesus said that He is going ahead to prepare a place for Christians. Jesus is conveying that He is going ahead to prepared one mansion in God's house for Christians.

The other mansions in God's house are for other tradition and the Lords of other traditions.

Gurucam
July 8th, 2017, 11:49 AM
Luke 17 KJV N.T.
22 And he said unto the disciples, The days will come, when ye shall desire to see one of the days of the Son of man, and ye shall not see it.

The above speaks of the days of the physical 'seen' and temporal, son of man Jesus. This refers to the days of relevance of the physical 'seen' and temporal, son of man Jesus, on the surface of earth.

The physical 'seen' and temporal, son of man Jesus is relevant on the surface of earth only until the great and final separation which is soon to occur. These day of the physical 'seen' and temporal, son of man Jesus on the surface of earth is coming to a close, soon.

This great and final separation is describes in the Holy scriptures as follows:

Matthew: 24 KJV N.T.
41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

Luke: 17 KJV N.T.
34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.
35 Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
36 Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

After the above event, the days of the physical 'seen' and temporal, son of man Jesus would be ended. However during this event, some people will still look for those past days and they will not find them. All opportunities would have been lost to them.

At that time only the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God Lord Jesus, will be relevant and needed on the surface of earth. This marks the descent of God's kingdom of heaven to the surface of earth. Then only children of God will be left to inherit the surface of earth, in God's kingdom of heaven, on the surface of earth.

The above confirms that Jesus will not return in a physical 'seen' and temporal, son of man body. He will remain for all eternity in His Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God body, on his throne of glory in spirit heaven, on the right side of God Who is the Holy Spirit.

When the final and great separation starts to unfold, many will be looking for the (return of) physical 'seen' and temporal, son of man Jesus. He will not be found.

This final event will mark the end of the days of children of the flesh and need for the physical 'seen' and temporal, son of man Jesus on the surface of earth. both children of the flesh and the need for the physical Jesus, will be totally done away with from the surface of earth

The above will occur because all children of the flesh (the dead) will be removed from the surface of earth and sent into hell, inside the earth, with Satan.

Children of the flesh ('the dead') are entangled with things of man, i.e. earthly things and not the things of God, i.e. spirit things.

At the great and final separation, when God's kingdom of heaven is fully established here, 'the dead' will be teleported to a destination of their entanglement through black hole portals. This destination is inside the earth, in hell with Satan.

The holy KJV N.T. describe this great and final separation as follows:

Luke: 17 King James Version (KJV)
36 Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

Fact is this happens routinely in the spirit realm, immediately after people die and are without physical bodies and are judged by the Spirit Jesus.

However in the great and final separation this will happen while people are still physically alive, in physical bodies, on earth.

Then only children of God would be left on earth, without children of the flesh.

With the absence of children of the flesh on the surface of earth the relevance and need for things related to the physical 'seen' and temporal, son of man Jesus would have passed.

Then only children of God from all spiritual traditions will be left on the surface of earth. And only the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God Jesus will be relevant for people on the surface of earth.

Gurucam
July 8th, 2017, 05:53 PM
Luke 17 KJV N.T.
22 And he said unto the disciples, The days will come, when ye shall desire to see one of the days of the Son of man, and ye shall not see it.

The days of the physical, 'seen' and temporal son of man Jesus represent the past 2000 odd years which were given for 'the dead' to become spiritually actualized and prepare for the strong rule of the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Lord Jesus on the surface of earth.

When the time has ended some people will be caught unprepared and look for an extension. There will be none. This message seem similar to:

Matthew: 25 King James Version (KJV)
1. Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.
2 And five of them were wise, and five were foolish.
3 They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them:
4 But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.
5 While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept.
6 And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.
7 Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps.
8 And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out.
9 But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves.
10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.
11 Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.
12 But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.

The closure of the days of the physical Jesus will be marked with the following event:

Matthew: 24 KJV N.T.
41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

Luke: 17 KJV N.T.
34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.
35 Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
36 Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

The promise is that only children of God, like Isaac will inherit the surface of earth without any children of the flesh like Ishmael. This is to occur, in the fullness of time, when God's kingdom of heaven is established on the surface of earth. This is when: "as it is in heaven, so it is on earth".:

Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.

Matthew: 6 King James Version (KJV)
10 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.

When God's kingdom come to earth His will shall be done on earth and His kingdom of heaven will be established on the surface of earth. Then only children of God will be heir to the surface of earth without any children of the flesh.

The recent strengthening of the Spirit of Jesus (through recent 'heavenly bodies' realignment) heralded the establishing of God's kingdom on the surface of earth. The fullness of time is at hand.

The days of the physical, 'seen' and temporal son of man Jesus is closing very rapidly to give total and absolute way to the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Lord Jesus, on the surface of earth.

Gurucam
July 9th, 2017, 11:22 AM
The very first lesson that the billion strong traditional Christians must learn is as follows:

There were two Jesus.

1. The first Jesus was physical, 'seen', flesh and blood' and earthly. He was temporal. He was the son of man and he was not the Lord from or in, heaven.

2. The second Jesus is the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God Jesus and he is the Lord from and in, heaven

1 Corinthians: 15 KJV N.T.
35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

We were instructed:

2 Corinthians: 4 King James Version (KJV)
18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.

The physical, 'seen', temporal, flesh and blood', earthly, son of man Jesus who is not the Lord from or in, heaven, is not consequential. One can blaspheme him and one shall be forgiven. Also this Jesus is in no way equal to God, the Holy Spirit:

Matthew: 12 King James Version (KJV)
31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

We know that, the fullness of time came for Paul, 2000 odd yeas ago. This was when Paul blasphemed both 1. the physical, 'seen', flesh and blood' and earthly, son of man Jesus who is not the Lord from or in, heaven and 2. the Satanic church which this physical, 'seen', flesh and blood' and earthly, son of man Jesus established under Peter.

The above was a Grace of God, right of passage. This indicated that Paul had become 'converted'. A converted person is a spiritually awakened person. Such a person naturally and spontaneously discern the folly that are Peter's church and all O.T. ideas and institutions

Fact is the physical 'seen' and temporal, flesh and blood, earthly, son of man, Jesus and Peter & his church are all a part of the O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments idea. These have nothing to do with Paul's commission which it all New Testament.

Paul naturally and spontaneously blaspheme these institutions which are solely for 'the dead' (the spiritually dead). Because he was converted, his vision and intelligence had changed for the better.

This was Paul, a newly spiritually aware person, 'doing away with' all thing which conformed to the old ideas. These old thing and old ideas, included the physical, 'seen', flesh and blood' and earthly, son of man Jesus who is not the Lord from or in, heaven and also a doing away with the church, under Peter, which that physical Jesus established.

Fact is, after these event or because of the above events, Paul went on to have direct communion with the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God Jesus Who is the Lord from and in, heaven.

And indeed the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God Jesus who is the Lord from and in, heaven asked Paul, why he blasphemed those things and clearly Paul gave the correct answer, because Paul got Jesus spirit and Spirit, Christian commission

That is, the gospel of uncircumcision was committed onto Paul by the Spirit Jesus Who is the Lord from and in, heaven

On the other hand, the gospel of circumcision was committed onto Peter by the physical Jesus who was not the Lord from and in, heaven.

However it was not appropriate for Paul to totally pull down those institutions at that time. Those 'old' institutions were still relevant to 'the dead' and had to remain on earth until the fullness of time, when God's kingdom of heaven, descends to the surface of earth.

Fact is, on the surface of earth, the relevance of the physical 'seen' and temporal, son of man Jesus is described as 'the days of the Son of man'.

These days of the physical Jesus who is not the Lord, were the past 2000 odd years. These days will soon end ('die') abruptly and totally, to give way to the days on the surface of earth of the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Jesus who is the Lord from and in, heaven.

At the time of Paul's conversion the days of the son of man, on earth were not ready to be done away with. Only now, the fullness of time is at hand and those days are to be 'done away with'.

After that total event of his blasphemy of 'the Old', Paul got all his information and guidance individually, privately and directly for this second Jesus who is the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God Jesus Who is the Lord from and in, heaven.

Have not doubt Peter's gospel of circumcision-church is of 'the Old'. Only Paul's gospel of uncircumcision commission of of 'the New'.

Galatians: 2 KJV N.T.
7 But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter

1. The gospel of circumcision includes 'righteousness' that is anchored on the ten commandment and canons etc.. i.e. righteousness that is anchored on any kind of laws. This gospel was committed onto Peter as the anchor of his church.

2. The gospel of uncircumcision is essentially God's righteousness that is anchored on absolute no laws, not even the ten commandments and certainly not canons. This righteousness of God is anchored on total freedom, liberty and justification to transgress all laws when one is led into all of one's works by one's own spirit, in harmony with the Holy Spirit.

This gospel of uncircumcision, was committed onto Paul and anchors Paul's commission. This is righteousness of God that is without the ten commandments:

Romans: 3 KJV N.T.
21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

Acts: 13 King James Version (KJV)
39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.

This idea in which, those who are led the Spirit of Jesus have absolute freedom, liberty and justification to transgress the ten commandments, all canons and all other laws (except the democratically determined laws of one's land) is a 'law' onto it self. It is called the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus:

Romans: 8 King James Version (KJV)
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

This is not a 'law' per-say'. It is declaration of absolute freedom, liberty and justification. It is Jesus' law which say if you are led by My Spirit, as discerned within your own heart/spirit, you are under and obligated to absolutely no laws or laws.

Fact is what the Spirit of Jesus has in mind for one to know, pray for, say and do, as discerned by each person with each of their own heart/spirit is a perfect amalgam of two things as follows:

1. ideas beliefs, interests, need, desires and aspirations of one's own heart/spirit and
2. the Will/Spirit of God.

One who is led by the Spirit of Jesus as discerned in the above manner is saved and delivered to God's kingdom everywhere. Only such a one is a Christian and a child of God, under the Christian system.

. . . every one must esteem and obey the laws of their land and international laws.

Gurucam
July 9th, 2017, 02:38 PM
1 Corinthians: 15 KJV N.T.
35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.

The above tells us that Jesus was born a man in a human physical, flesh and blood, earthly, 'seen' and temporal son of man body, And, when he died, he dropped his human physical, flesh and blood, earthly, 'seen' and temporal son of man body and retained only His Spirit body and rose to heaven, clad only in Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God Body and then he became the Lord from and in heaven.

If you continue to hear only about and esteem, use, invoke and promote, the physical Jesus, you would not know or have communion with, the Lord, because the physical, 'seen' temporal, flesh and blood, earthly Jesus is not the Lord from or in, heaven.

You have missed the basic tenant of Christianity and you are not Christian because only the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God Jesus is the Lord from and in. heaven.

The physical Jesus was born of a woman and born under the ten commandments:

Galatians: 4 King James Version (KJV)
4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,

Hebrews: 2 KJV N.T.
9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.

Jesus was born/made of a woman, made under the law, to taste what it was to be spiritually dead. To be born under the ten commandments is to be born spiritually dead (like Ishmael).

From this spiritually dead state, Jesus learn or became aware of, how to become 'converted' so that while he lived he can soweth to Spirit, so that he can be the first fruit of the Spirit:

1 Corinthians: 15 King James Version (KJV)
20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.

'Them that sleep' describes 'the dead' (the spiritually dead)

Jesus was born a spiritually dead person. This is how all people who esteem, use, invoke and promote the ten commandments are born. They are children of the flesh. like Ishmael.

Jesus was born in this manner so as to experience first hand, how it was to be a child of the flesh ('the dead'). He did this so as to awaken, as a man, to the path through which 'the dead' can become spiritually aware (be converted). Then he designed his own Spirit as a guide to salvation and deliverance for those spiritually dead people who became spiritually aware and choose to follow him.

Jesus designed His Spirit to (be a special force/spirit that) perfectly and impersonally amalgamate 1. the ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirations which are the fabric of the hearts/spirits of each spiritually awaken person and 2. the Will/Spirit of God.

Then Jesus instructed:

Matthew: 8 King James Version (KJV)
22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.

Following Jesus is to be led into all your works, unconditionally by precisely what His Spirit has in mind for one to know, pray for, say and do, as discerned with each of our own hearts/spirit. And we must be led in this manner even if we have to transgress the ten commandments.

When we are led in the above manner, we have God given freedom, liberty, justification and instructions to totally ignore and transgress the ten commandments because the ten commandments totally opposed serving our spirit in harmony with God, the Holy Spirit.

The ten commandments are not God's laws. These laws were simply given by Moses for temporal use. God's law is as follows:

John 1:17King James Version (KJV)
17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

Galatians: 6 King James Version (KJV)
7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
9 And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season (on our own judgment day) we shall reap, if we faint not.

Hebrews: 9 King James Version (KJV)
27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment

Jesus instructed:

Matthew: 8 King James Version (KJV)
22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.

1. 'Follow me' is follow the New approach to life which is based on serving your spirit in harmony with soweth-ing to the Holy Spirit and made possible by being led by Jesus' Spirit, as discerned within your own heart/spirit. And doing this, even if you have to transgress the ten commandments.

The result of the above is that, you will rise clad only in your spirit body, in three day after physical death, to God's kingdom of heaven. (this is as Christians do/go.)

You will not be buried, together with your dead physical body, inside the earth, in hell with Satan for an indefinite or eternal stay.

Being buried, together with your dead physical body, inside the earth, in hell with Satan for an indefinite or eternal stay is the way of 'the dead'. (This is as Catholics, traditional Christians and other 'none Christians' do.)

2. 'The dead' are those who continued to esteem, use, invoke and promote the ten commandments. They are to be left to bury each other, eventually, inside the earth, in hell, with Satan. This is achieved when, while they live on earth, they esteem, use, invoke and promote, O.T. ideas, including the ten commandments, canons and the like.

Gurucam
July 10th, 2017, 09:52 AM
To aid the above post and to also aid the opening of your 'eyes to see', 'your ears to hear' and your heart to understand', the following is given:

Matthew: 12 KJV N.T.
32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

The physical, 'seen', temporal, flesh and blood, earthly, son of man Jesus is not the Lord from and in, heaven and he is not that consequential. One can blaspheme him and one shall be forgiven.

. . . whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

The above says that Jesus did not become the Lord until, after his physical death, when he dropped his physical, 'seen' and temporal, flesh and blood, earthly, son of man body and rose to heaven, clad only in His Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God body:

1 Corinthians: 15 KJV N.T.
35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.

Who is the Lord, not the physical, 'seen' and temporal, flesh and blood, earthly, son of man Jesus. The Lord is the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God Jesus.

The Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Lord Jesus is in God's kingdom of heaven that is within you heart/spirit.

You will find and commune with the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Lord Jesus only by searching your own heart/spirit . . . and not by esteeming, using invoking and promoting the physical, 'seen' and temporal, flesh and blood, earthly, son of man Jesus and things related to this Jesus.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
26 Likewise the Spirit (of Jesus) also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit (of Jesus) itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit (of Jesus), because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
To ignore the above and go about your own righteousness is to live very perilously.

Gurucam
July 10th, 2017, 05:49 PM
Those who in the least way, esteem, use, invoke and promote the ten commandments are obliged to uphold all those laws perfectly or they fall short of the glory of God and are eventually and inevitably buried inside the earth, in hell with Satan.

James: 2 KJV N.T.
10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

Galatians: 5 King James Version (KJV)
1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
2 Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.
3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.
4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.

Romans: 5 KJV N.T.
13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.

Romans: 3 KJV N.T.
19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.

Romans: 3 King James Version (KJV)
23 For all (who in the least way, esteem, use, invoke and promote the ten commandments) have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

If it is possible for those who esteem, use, invoke and promote the ten commandments to be heir to God's kingdom of heaven, then all of the above are lies.

If those who esteem, use, invoke and promote the ten commandments can be or are, heir to God's kingdom of heaven, then all of the above are lies and faith is made void and the promise of the Spirit, is made of no effect.

Romans: 4 King James Version (KJV)
14 For if they which are of the law be heirs, faith is made void, and the promise made of none effect:
15 Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression.

So, because where no law is, there is no transgression, now (since 2000 odd years ago) righteousness that is without the ten commandments has been manifested for Christians.

Romans: 3 KJV N.T.
21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

Acts: 13 King James Version (KJV)
39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.

A billion strong traditional Christians esteem, use, invoke and promote the ten commandments and foolishly believe that they are Christians (i.e. believers in Jesus).

Clearly a billion strong traditional Christians have been misled by their own priest etc, who were and continue to be, false prophets:

Matthew: 24 King James Version (KJV)
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

Is there any wonder why:

Matthew: 22 King James Version (KJV)
14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

There are millions of very well accepted, priests, pastors etc., who are false prophets, within the core of the billion strong traditional Christians.

These 'false prophet' priests, pastors etc. are deceiving aspiring Christians into bondage under the ten commandments. These 'false prophet' priests, pastors etc. are unawares, false, spying brethren:

Galatians: 2 KJV N.T.
4 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage

The billion strong traditional Christians are dead to (unaware of) the fact that their million most prized bishops, pastors, priests, elders etc. are false prophets and unawares false spying brethren who are putting them in bondage under the ten commandments and literally recruiting them for hell, inside the earth, with Satan.

The above is how 'the dead' do not follow Jesus. Indeed, the above is how 'the dead bury their dead':

Matthew: 8 King James Version (KJV)
22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.

Gurucam
July 11th, 2017, 03:09 AM
Romans: 3 KJV N.T.
21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

Acts: 13 King James Version (KJV)
39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.

The above says that there is righteousness of God that justifies one to transgress the ten commandments.

The above mentions the following that justifies one to transgress the ten commandments. This is the following: "faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference". One is justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

The above does not simply say 'faith and love' as some carelessly parrot.

In order to be justified to transgress the ten commandments the following are required:

One has to have the specific faith that Jesus Christ demonstrated or manifested. This comes to one who believes in Jesus. There is no difference between 1.) one who believes and gets this faith and 2.) Jesus Christ..

One is justified freely to transgress the ten commandments by the grace of Jesus. Grace of Jesus is the redemption that Jesus provides.

To be in grace of Jesus is to be 'in Christ', i.e. to be Christian.

The redemption that one one earns by being 'in Christ' /Christian is justification to transgress the ten commandments.

The above revelation says: "Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ".

'Faith' is defined as, 'belief in things 'not seen the evidence of things hoped for'.

This righteousness of God that justify one to transgress the ten commandments relates to 'belief in things 'not seen the evidence of things hoped for' as manifested by Jesus Christ. This relates to the specific kind of faith that Jesus had and demonstrated/manifested.

The demonstration/manifestation of this faith refers to Jesus manifesting physical/material things by relying on or operating through, 'not seen'/none physical devises and 'not seen'/none physical things.

For example under the Old Mosaic tradition if one wants fish and bread one gets it though the common physical way. However under the New Christian way, if one wants fish and bread, one dies the magical 'not seen' materializing way.

This refers to what is still perceived (by the masses) to be the 'miracles' which Jesus demonstrated/manifested. Everyone who has the faith of Jesus Christ can do these 'miracles' things.

Also the revelation above confirmed that before the advent of Jesus and Christianity 2000 odd years ago: all who esteemed, used, invoked and promoted the ten commandments, sinned and came short of the glory of God.

However now, all who come onto Christ, earns a particular grace and are redeemed by Jesus. Then one is justified freely to transgress the ten commandments.

The following other revelations confirm how one is redeemed by Jesus:

To be under the grace of Christ and to be redeemed by Jesus, one must be led by the Spirit of Jesus as discerned through one's own heart/spirit.

That is, one who is onto Christ is a Christian/Saint/child of God. Such a one is led by the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession, as follows:

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
26 Likewise the Spirit (of Jesus) also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit (of Jesus) itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit (of Jesus), because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

Under the Christian system, those who are led into their works by precisely what the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession has in mind for each of them to know, pray for, say and do, as discerned with each of their own heart/spirit, have God given freedom, liberty, justification and instructions to transgress the ten commandments.

After being 'converted' a person must be able to identify and zoom into, the Spirit of Jesus within one's own heart/spirit.

This gives rise to the next thing that the billion strong traditional Christians need to and must, know. This will be detailed in the next post.

Gurucam
July 11th, 2017, 06:31 AM
The following is the second thing that the billion strong traditional Christians must know:

Jesus is currently clad only in His Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God body, in God's kingdom of spirit heaven within the hearts/spirits of human.

1 Corinthians: 15 KJV N.T.
35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

Luke: 17 King James Version (KJV)
20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
26 Likewise the Spirit (of Jesus) also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit (of Jesus) itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit (of Jesus), because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

Of course only a 'converted' person can search his/her own heart/spirit to know and commune with, the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Jesus, Who is the Lord in and from, God's kingdom of heaven.

Matthew: 13 KJV N.T.
15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

Therefore in order to reach Jesus (Who is in God's kingdom of heaven,) as Saints/Christian/children of God do, one must know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven.

You would not find these mysteries in the Old Testament or in any scriptures before the advent of Jesus on earth, in a human physical body. Also you will not find these mysteries every where in the Holy KJV N.T.. You certainly will not find these mysteries in any parable in the Holy KJV N.T.

These mysteries were hid until Jesus brought them 2000 odd years ago and gave them privately to only the disciples.

Colossians: 1 King James Version (KJV)
26 Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints:

Matthew: 13 KJV N.T.
10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.

Only the disciples were given by God to follow Jesus and to get the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven:

John: 6 KJV N.T.
65 And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.
66 From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.
67 Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away?

A billion strong traditional Christians are foolishly and mistakenly relying on, esteeming, using, invoking and promoting parables. This is their second very serious folly. The first serious folly is that they esteem, use, invoke and promote the ten commandments.

Parables were given by Jesus for the dead to bury each other, by using parables. This was given to serve Jesus' second aim and agenda which to 'let the dead bury their dead'.

Fact is, parables continue to serve the same agenda as the ten commandments.

Parables were not given by Jesus to or for, those who were given by God to follow him and to get the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven, from him. Parables were given to those who ignored and/or refused to follow Jesus. These were 'the dead who were to left to bury each other with their foolish O.T. and other foolish ideas.

Eatables were given to take away what 'the dead' had and eventually have them bury each other, inside the earth, in hell, with Satan.

'The dead' are children of the flesh. They are not destine to inherit the surface of earth, together with children of God, in the fullness of time, when God's kingdom of heaven come to the surface of earth. All children of the flesh are destine to be sent, eventually, to hell, inside the earth, with Satan.

Basically parables were given to 'spiritually dead', 'closed heart-ed', 'doubting Thomas-es' to tell them what they want to hear and so appease them (on their false and foolish terms). This was done to have them keep the peace, while real and true seekers had peace to actually follow Jesus.

Parables were given for 'the dead to bury their dead'. Parables were not given for those who were given by God to follow Jesus.

Matthew: 8 King James Version (KJV)
22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.

Only the disciples were given by God to follow Jesus and only the disciples were given the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven in very private sessions among only them.

One will find these mysteries only in those few private deliveries which Jesus made very privately, to only the disciples. These deliveries are very useful to those who are seeking Gods kingdom of heaven within one's own heart/spirit, so as to commune with the Spirit of Jesus, there.

A billion strong traditional Christians commonly esteem, use, invoke and promote parables. This is their grave error. Parables are for the dead who bury their dead and not for those who are given by God to follow Jesus.

The sad truth is that a billion strong traditional Christians are not Christians.

They are not among the chosen few.

Of course this information can allow them to come on to truth in these last days and be the first among the chosen few.

Even so, only a few will come onto truth in these last days and make it to be the last who first:

Matthew: 20 King James Version (KJV)
16 So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen.

Gurucam
July 11th, 2017, 10:18 AM
1. The first thing that the billion strong traditional Christians must know is that those who in the least way, esteem, use, invoke and promote the ten commandments are not under grace, and Christ has benefited them nothing. They are not Christians.

2. The second, equally important thing that the billion strong traditional Christians must know is that those who in the least way, esteem, use, invoke and promote parables (in the Holy KJV N.T.) are not under grace, and Christ has benefited them nothing. They are not Christians.

What then, is the third equally important thing that the billion strong traditional Christians must know?

They must know that the physical, 'seen', temporal, 'flesh and blood', earthly, son of man Jesus is not the Lord from or in heaven. Only the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God Jesus is the Lord from and in, heaven.

3. The third thing that the billion strong traditional Christians must know is that those who in the least way, esteem, use, invoke and promote the physical, 'seen', temporal, 'flesh and blood', earthly, son of man Jesus instead of the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God Jesus are not under grace, and Christ has benefited them nothing. They are not Christians.

The above are three critical fundamental Christian truths that seems totally foreign to the billion strong traditional Christians.

Many false prophets and unawares false spying brethren have done serious numbers on these billion strong traditional Christian. If one is misled about only one of these three, one is in serious trouble.

The billion strong traditional Christians are in serious denial and serious doom.

However there is hope for a last few, who will be chosen first:

Matthew: 20 King James Version (KJV)
16 So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen.

Those who can rise above their egos and 'know-it-all' self righteousness and embrace truth now, in the fullness of time, have a chance of being among the last few who are chosen first.

There will be no pampering. There will be no making you feel good by accepting foolish, incomplete 'one liners' that makes no sense and add nothing . . . except to make foolish people feel they know something.

If you did not know, you simply did not know. Be forthright and come on board. Pretense is a curse.

Humility, correctly articulated, can gain you everything.

A billion strong traditional Christians are misled because of ego driven, 'know-it-all, self-righteousness. In this state, they are simply available for fooling-up.

All a false prophet or unawares, false spying brethren need to do is lift traditional Christians, just a little beyond their own ego driven, 'all knowing' self-righteous 'intellectualizing' and these false prophet and unawares, false spying brethren fool-up traditional Christians.

The basics are long ignored and lost.

One need to have an inherent/intuitive/heart oriented gift of the Spirit to know and teach Christian theology. That has long been abandon. It is now vogue to have a cold/carnal/intellectual/man determined certification (i.e. like a doctorate, a masters, a bachelor, etc.).

Those are man/carnal certification. Those are not God/Spirit certifications.

This modern approach which has it genesis from and in, 'the dead', is a curse which has reduced a billion strong traditional Christians to zero Christians . . . and into a billion seemingly spiritually dead 'parroting' people. . . . ready willing and able to serve a spiritually dead/Satanic status quo.

However the end of that reign (of 'the dead') is at hand. Time is limited for 'the dead' to become 'converted' to spiritual awareness and counted for the News Age of Enlightenment in Christ.

'The last 'not seen' trains are loading . . . they are nothing like Noah's 'seen' ark. It is totally different this time around.

These trains are beyond the 'seen'. They are ideas anchored on truth. One must board them as such. Indeed one must come on board with truth. This is the passage.

Do not be caught up with new-age Hollywood 'end of times' films which seem rooted in the ideas of the dead and which seem to promote the ideas and agenda of 'the dead'.

. . . remember that movie which promoted that one can buy a million dollar ticket for a place on a Noah like Ark.

It was very good entertainment. However it not related to Christianity. Do not let it condition and/or shape your supposed 'end times', 'transference to a new age' expectation. The upcoming displace will take the form of:

Luke: 17 King James Version (KJV)
36 Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

That idea of buying a ticket on a Noah type ark is Old Testament and spent. The upcoming transformation to the New Age of Enlightenment in Christ, will be done through a far more modern approach. In this approach 'the dead' will be physically teleported, out of the surface of earth, through (black hole) portals, to destinations that are according to their actual carnal entanglement.

Teleportation, through black hole portals according to one's entanglement is a routine spiritual/quantum event. This occurs routinely in the spirit realm after one dies physically.

Now it is coming to operation on the surface of earth, in our physical reality, because the Age on earth has become more powerfully controlled by the spirit/quantum reality. This has happened through the recently enhanced and strengthened Spirit of Jesus, on the surface of earth.

We are in the Age of enlightenment in Christ, on the surface of earth. In this Age, spirit and Spirit rules and runs our physical realities much more powerfully. Carnality is on the decline. This is dawning of the N.T. Age.

The surface of earth can no longer support carnality that does not originate from spirit and Spirit. The dead (spiritually dead) are seriously jeopardized. They are children of the flesh.

Children of the flesh cannot inform their carnality (physical/material activities) by spirit and Spirit. They are simply dead to spirit and Spirit. However this incapacity did not deprive them a place on the surface of earth up until now.

Recently our human spirits and the Spirit of Jesus has strengthened on the surface of earth. This made the surface of earth strongly spiritual. Now 'the dead' cannot survive on the surface of earth. They are simply not actualized enough. The environment on earth simply cease to be supportive of their life style.

Natural law will simply eject then from the surface of earth.

Natural quantum law deals with that development, spontaneously, by teleporting 'the dead', through black hole portal to dimensions that match their continuing carnal entanglement. There is no death.

If one cannot cope with the upgrade of the surface of earth, one is naturally and spontaneously removed to a more appropriate darker place/dimension that befits their state.

Now, that which routinely happens when they physically die (i.e. dispatch to hell) will simply happen while they are physically alive. They will not be on the surface of earth, in God's kingdom of heaven.

Fact is, children of the flesh will not be able to stay on earth together with children of God, now in the fullness of time.

Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son (children of the flesh): for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman (children of God).

Children of the flesh will be teleported out of here through black hole portal to destinations/dimensions more befitting their carnal entanglement.

Luke: 17 King James Version (KJV)
36 Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

The idea of buying a million dollar seat (so as to be delivered) is totally O.T., irrelevant and spent. To hold this idea indicates one's entanglement to/with things of man and earth (O.T. things) and not to things of God and Spirit (N.T. things):

Matthew: 6 King James Version (KJV)
19 Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:
20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:
21 For where your treasure is, there will your heart (and your entanglement and teleporting through a portal destination) be also.

Gurucam
July 12th, 2017, 02:07 AM
Everyone lives on, after his death on earth. This is so whether, after death, one gets an upgrade to heaven or a down grade to hell for his next environment.

Whether one gets an upgrade to heaven or a down grade to hell is based on how or to what one soweth to, whiles on lived on earth.

Galatians: 6 King James Version (KJV)
7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
9 And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season (on our own judgment day) we shall reap, if we faint not.

One soweth on earth, according to a vision. This can be either one's own vision. This can also be the vision of someone else, that one has adopted.

However obtained, each person hold a vision of a heavenly life and how to get there.

These vision are very diverse. The following are a few examples:

1. Some people genuinely believe that they can and must steel from others to have their heavenly life.
2. Others believe that they must physically work hard to get their heavenly life.
3. Yet others believe that they must be charitable to get their heavenly life.
4. Others believe that they must esteem, use, invoke and promote the ten commandments to have their heavenly life.
5. And yet others believe that if they are led by the Spirit of Jesus, as discerned within their own hearts/spirit, they will get their heavenly life.

As many people exist, so many different visions can also exist.

The vision that one holds for oneself centers on ideas of a heavenly life and how one can obtain this life. These two things determine how and to what one soweth.

Nature is always conspiring to give one what one wants on one's own terms. This is so, regardless as to how informed one's idea of a heavenly life is and how informed is one's idea of achieving his heavenly life.

One has absolute free choice which is totally supported by Nature/God. However the quality of one's idea of a heavenly life and the technique for achieving same are only as good as, the level of awareness that informs these ideas.

For example, if one's immediate idea (for a small heavenly experience) is to make and have cake and one's idea of the recipe include sand as an ingredient, One will not reach that small heavenly goal of actually making a cake and eating it.

The point is, everyone has absolute free choice. However the more one is properly informed about both, the actual quality of the heaven that one visions and the recipe that one uses to get the desired result, the better will be his heavenly life and the more easily successful one will be in achieving that heavenly life.

Also, every one more or less has different ideas of a heavenly life and different ideas of getting there, everyone ends in their own unique result. Therefore there are billions of heavens and billions of hells. This is more like different levels of heavens and different levels of hells For indeed there are billions of different results from one's soweth-ing. Each person gets a different result.

These heavens and hells conform intricately to the various ideas of heaven that each person hold and the effectiveness of the approach each person uses to get or not get there. A good idea of heaven couple with an informed idea of how to get there earns one a level of heavenly life that is at best directly related to his idea of heaven. A poor idea of a heavenly life coupled with a poor idea of how to get there earns one a hellish life.

The above gave rise to the need for and the ideas of, the Lord Jesus. Jesus' idea of heaven and means by which one can get there, are far more informed than the ideas of ordinary human.

Because most of Abraham's generations held very poor ideas of a heavenly life and held and were using very poor approaches to reach even that poor idea of heaven, there was a need for much improvement both to their idea of a heavenly life and the approach for achieving a heavenly life.

The Jews believed that if everyone was held in bondage under the ten commandments and upheld the ten commandments all would have heavenly lives. However two thing were very limited. First a heaven in which everyone is held in bondage under the ten commandments is not heaven, that is hell. Also the the idea of upholding the ten commandments was flawed because no one was able to uphold the ten commandments. Therefore under that systen a hellish life was assured for all who subscribed to that system.

Entered Jesus who told of a far more informed and better heavenly life and an equally more informed approach to achieve this heavenly life.

This was offered to those who followed him. This was not enforced on everyone unilaterally. This was without the O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments system that was totally flawed:

Hebrews: 8 King James Version (KJV)
7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.

Jesus was distinguished by the fact that he had a far more informed vision of truth, the ultimate holistic reality.

Jesus demonstrated that one need not rely only on physical actions and physical effort to achieve one's material life on earth. Jesus demonstrated that one can use spiritual actualization and spiritual skills to (supposedly magically) materialize one material needs on earth.

(I used 'supposedly magically' because the manner in which Jesus created some of his material reality only seemed magical. It was not magical. It was ordinary, routine and within the ordinary operation of Natural law, among spiritually actualized people. However, it would be perceived to magical to 'the dead'.)

Also Jesus' idea of a heavenly life is anchored on freely expressing, materializing and fulfilling the ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspiration of one own heart/spirit in total harmony with the Will/Spirit of God.

Also the above is achieved under God given freedom, liberty, justification and instructions to ignore and transgress the ten commandments.

This allows humans to be co-creators with God (and like God) according to things in each of their own heart/spirit. This is the ultimate heavenly life for humans.

When one create things only through physical/intellectual effort one is not a co-creator with God. One is a co-creator with Satan. Satan are simply those humans who savor the things and techniques of man (man describes our physical/earthly side) and not the tings of God/Spirit and spiritual skills.

Clearly there is great wisdom in adopting Jesus' idea of a heavenly life and his idea of the path to this life. That is instead of holding one's own idea of a heavenly life and one's own idea of how to come onto one's own idea of a heavenly life.

Bottom line, one can be led by the wisdom of Jesus or one can be led by one's own wisdom. Jesus demonstrated that he knew how to materialize life by operating effortlessly and 'miraculously' from the spirit/quantum level.

Additionally one can adopt the ideas of Moses. However this is prescribed as a temporary life for 'the dead' until they become converted and onto Christ. The ideas of Moses does not include a life in heaven. Moses preoccupation was simply to manage the Jews and keep them peace full. This was the immediate need of the Jews, at that time. The idea of having a heavenly life was beyond the reach and consideration of the Jews, back then, at that time.

It was even more inappropriate to offer those Jews an actual heavenly life which could only be motivated and anchored by spirit and Spirit. They were not yet ready for grace and truth.

Moses did not bring truth and grace which are anchors for an actual and real heavenly life.

John: 1 King James Version (KJV)
17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

. . . will continue soon.

Gurucam
July 12th, 2017, 12:07 PM
Under the Christian system, the purpose of one's current (70 to 100 year) life on earth is to live in such a manner that by one's currently life style, one secures for oneself an eternal life in God's kingdom of heaven, after one dies and is judged.

Hebrews: 9 King James Version (KJV)
27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment

Traditional Christians read the above to mean that one has this one life on earth, then judgment will follow and one will be delivered to either heaven or hell, for all all eternity.

Therefore, one should not be careless and assuming about how one lives. One's mission is single pointed in one's current life.

The path to securing an eternal life is well defined in the Holy KJV N.T., as follows:

Galatians: 6 King James Version (KJV)
7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
9 And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season (on our own judgment day) we shall reap, if we faint not.

Those who soweth to Spirit reap everlasting life.

Many ignore this God given, single purpose instruction/mission. Instead they go about seeking their own ideas on earth.

These people are simply sacrificing/exchanging their one (70 year) life on earth on their terms, for an eternity in hell.

Fact is God is a Spirit, the Holy Spirit. And we are instructed to worship God in Spirit and in truth.

How, indeed, do we worship God in Spirit and truth?

Worshiping God in Spirit is simple. One worship God in Spirit when one soweth to the Holy Spirit. However how does one worship God in truth? Who or what is truth?

Fact is, Jesus is the truth and no one come onto God (the Holy Spirit) without going through Jesus. Therefore worshiping God in Spirit and truth has to do with both the Holy Spirit and Jesus.

John: 4 King James Version (KJV)
24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

John: 14 King James Version (KJV)
6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Currently Jesus is also a Spirit. He is the Spirit of Truth/Spirit of intercession. He is on his throne of glory on the right hand of God, the Holy Spirit, ready willing and able to make intercession for 'converted' persons . . . and so heal them.

Therefore to worship God, the Holy Spirit in truth one has to be led by the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession because this Spirit of Jesus intercedes on behalf of humans according to the Will of God. The will of God is the Spirit of God. The will/Spirit of God is the Holy Spirit.

The following confirm the above:

1 Corinthians: 15 KJV N.T.
35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

Luke: 17 King James Version (KJV)
20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

Ephesians: 3 King James Version (KJV)
17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,
18 May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;
19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.

Both God's kingdom of heaven and Jesus, clad only in His Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Body is within one's heart/spirit. This is the Jesus Who is the Lord from and in, heaven. This is the Jesus that those seeking to be Christian must know, commune with, esteem, use, invoke and promote:

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
26 Likewise the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession) also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession) itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession), because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

And only when one is led by this Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Lord Jesus, as discerned within one's own heart/spirit, that one soweth to Spirit and reap eternal life in God's kingdom of heaven, after death and judgment.

Shouldn't the above be loudly proclaimed on the mountain tops. Having this shown to you, should you not proclaim it every where. Especially among the misled, billion strong traditional Christians.

If you are privy to a pearl (i.e. this truth), should you not share this pearl with as many as you can. I was given this pearl and I share it openly and totally to you. Now it is your turn to freely and openly share it with others (especially to as many of the billion strong traditional Christians, as possible).

These posts are the fundamentals of Christianity which were not available to the billion strong traditional Christian. They were hidden. They are revealed at this time.

No revelation in the Holy KJV N.T. was distorted, corrupted or 'interpreted'. These posts are all pure unadulterated, literal truths in the Holy KJV N.T.

A billion strong traditional Christians are aspiring to be Christians. They were simply misled by witting or unwitting false prophets. They deserve to be told truth. Let us all try to do so, with devotion and dedication.

Luke: 8 KJV N.T.
16 No man, when he hath lighted a candle, covereth it with a vessel, or putteth it under a bed; but setteth it on a candlestick, that they which enter in may see the light.
17 For nothing is secret, that shall not be made manifest; neither any thing hid, that shall not be known and come abroad.
18 Take heed therefore how ye hear: for whosoever hath, to him shall be given; and whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken even that which he seemeth to have.

Matthew: 10 KJV N.T.
26 Fear them not therefore: for there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known.

Why indeed is a billion strong traditional Christians, not a chosen few. They are a billion strong people who were called to Christianity. They delight in their huge following. Why are they not the chosen few?:

Matthew: 22 King James Version (KJV)
14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

Truth be told, they were misled by millions of their most esteemed priests and elders, from within traditional Christianity:

Matthew: 24 King James Version (KJV)
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

It seems that, under the Christian system, one must save oneself in one's current life. There is no second chance:

Hebrews: 9 King James Version (KJV)
27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment

It is time to get Christianity right so that the last can be first (i.e. so that the last to Christianity can get truth, not err and be chosen first):.

Matthew: 20 King James Version (KJV)
16 So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen.

A billion strong traditional Christians are indeed the first. Their ideas are millenniums old and the first and erroneous concepts of Christianity.

Those first and continuing traditional Christian concepts are anchored on the essentially carnal ideas of 'the dead' who ruled over and dominate the surface of earth, until up to recently.

The time for spiritually aware people is at hand. And with this, (authentic) Christianity, which is anchored on spirit and Spirit, is surfacing every where.

Everyone is well advised to totally drop their age old, erroneous traditional/mainstream Christian ideas and get on board with truth (i.e. authentic Christianity) which can be and is, available only now.

My posts are authentic Christianity. They are the authentic 'good news' . . . Be the last to Christianity who are chosen first.

Deliver the actual good news to your family, your relatives, your friend . . . to everyone, before Jesus applies his sword of separation.

Matthew: 10 King James Version (KJV)
34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

Separation will be as follows:

Luke: 17 King James Version (KJV)
36 Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

Gurucam
July 12th, 2017, 04:29 PM
1 Corinthians: 15 KJV N.T.
35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

Ephesians: 3 King James Version (KJV)
17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,
18 May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;
19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
26 Likewise the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession) also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession) itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession), because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

Only when one has achieve communion with Jesus in the above manner can one make the following confession:

Romans 10 King James Version (KJV)
9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

At all events, a confession is based on knowing. A confession is a testimony of knowing.

In order to make the above confession one must know that Jesus is not buried in the earth with his dead physical body, but he was raised to God's kingdom of heaven, clad only in His Spirit body:

1 Corinthians: 15 KJV N.T.
35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

One can know this only by discerning and communing with the Spirit of Jesus within one's own heart/spirit, as follows:

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
26 Likewise the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession) also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession) itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession), because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

Discerning and communing with the Spirit of Jesus within one's own heart/spirit is through intuition. This is not as firm as knowing things through one's physical senses. This is far more subtle. This is akin to 'believing in thine heart'.

'The dead' can have no intuitive insights. They tend to easily undermine other people's intuitive knowing. And because intuitive insights are so subtle, newly spiritually aware people are misled into dismissing their own intuitive or inner knowing.

At any event, intuitive discernment of the Spirit Jesus, within one's own heart/spirit is 'believing in thine heart'.

It is based on actual intuitive discernment of the Spirit Jesus, within one's own heart/spirit that one can make the above confession, i.e.:

Romans 10 King James Version (KJV)
9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

And it is from having actual intuitive communion with the Spirit Jesus, within one's own heart/spirit, one can or shall, be saved.

Having this intuitive communion with the Spirit of Jesus in the above manner is the door way to being saved. This is why the verse say one shall be saved.

To be saved requires a further step. To be saved requires one to be led into one's works by precisely what this Spirit of Jesus has in mind for one to know, pray for say and do, as discerned in the above manner.

It is not as simple as ignoring and/or throwing out all other idea/revelations/verses in the Holy KJV N.T. and simply parroting that one verse.

Parroting that verse like a slogan, counts for absolutely nothing. Confessing without knowing is false witnessing.

Christians/children of God are the saved and delivered. They are those who are led by the Spirit of Jesus. They are those who soweth to the Holy Spirit by being led by the Spirit of Jesus:

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

Christians/children of God are not those (short-cut seeking, lazy people) who simply parrot slogans.

Galatians: 6 King James Version (KJV)
7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
9 And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season (on our own judgment day) we shall reap, if we faint not.

One is saved by having faith in the 'not seen' Spirit of Jesus as intuitively discerned within each of our own hearts/spirits and being led into all our works, unconditionally, by precisely what this Spirit has in mind for each of to know, pray for, say and do, in real time, all the time.

Being led by the Spirit of Jesus, as discerned intuitively within each of our own hearts/spirits, is how we serve our own spirits whiles we harmoniously and simultaneously soweth to the Holy Spirit.

The above are the two instructions and requirements for salvation and deliverance into God's kingdom of heaven.

To many very foolish people preset themselves as know-ers of Christianity. They all have totally simplistic and erroneous one line (or a few lines) ideas about Christianity.

They ignore the totally of the Holy scriptures and fixate on a single verse, that suite their convenience, as their path to salvation.

A billion strong traditional Christians are parroting that verse and they do not know that Jesus rose to heaven clad only in His Spirit body. They believe that Jesus rose to heaven in his physical body. Behind their confession is a belief in total foolishness, i.e. a total lack of knowing.

1 Corinthians: 15 KJV N.T.
35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.

For the billion strong traditional Christians their "Christianity" is false. It is all 'make-believe' foolishness that suit their convenience and appease/support their own 'made-up' ideas.

. . . they are literally 'the dead who are burying each other' with their own 'made-up' foolishness. They have gone about their own righteousness, leaving aside the righteousness of God.

. . . and indeed Jesus is committed to letting them have their way. Clearly they are not the chosen few who actually followed Jesus. They are the dead who are burying each other:

Matthew: 8 King James Version (KJV)
22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.

Epoisses
July 12th, 2017, 06:52 PM
The Ten Commandments are not 'The Law'.

The Ten Commandments are the basic principles of mankind collectively.
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You cannot be neither Christian. Muslim, or Jew- by the very consecrations therein, and reject the Ten Commandments.

They are universal and eternal.

The ten commandments are not eternal. God's love is eternal. The law or commandments were a shadow of the character of God that was revealed in Christ. Christ went out of his way to break the law especially the Sabbath on numerous occasions.

Gurucam
July 13th, 2017, 06:17 AM
The ten commandments are not eternal. God's love is eternal. The law or commandments were a shadow of the character of God that was revealed in Christ. Christ went out of his way to break the law especially the Sabbath on numerous occasions.

In the interest of purity of Christianity, please provide the scriptures which properly and totally support your claim.

Are there verses in scriptures which say:

1. "God's love is eternal"
2. "The law or commandments were a shadow of the character of God that was revealed in Christ"

Epoisses
July 13th, 2017, 06:22 AM
In the interest in purity of Christianity, please provide the scriptures which properly and totally support your claim.


Gal. 3:24,25

Gurucam
July 14th, 2017, 03:42 AM
Gal. 3:24,25

Galatians 3 King James Version (KJV)
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.

A school master is not a tutor. A schoolmaster is an administrator. A schoolmaster regulates, directs and controls, like a police man. The ten commandments were given for regulating, directing and controlling the Jews and not for tutoring. Tutors were appointed after Jews had been converted, abandon the ten commandments and healed by the Spirit of Jesus. That is tutors and governors are appointed only when Jews cease being Jews and become Christians.

The ten commandments were given simply to regulate, direct and control the behavior of the Jews.

To accomplish this task of regulating, directing and controlling the Jews, with the use of the ten commandments, Moses had to fool-up the Jews into believing that God gave those laws and those laws were God's eternal laws.

Moses neglected to tell the Jews the truth. Grace and truth came only with Jesus. Moses fooled-up the Jews about two things as follows:

1. Moses fooled up the Jews into believing that the ten commandments are God's eternal laws. He neglected to tell them that those laws are to be 'done away with' once one becomes converted and onto Christ.

2. Moses also fooled-up the Jews into believing that God gave the ten commandments. Fact is Moses gave the ten commandments.

Jesus corrected those 'fooling-ups' by bringing both grace and truth:

John: 1 King James Version (KJV)
17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
12 Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech:
13 And not as Moses, which put a veil over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:
14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.
15 But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.
16 Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.
17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

The ten commandments were given by Moses to operate like an 'not seen' schoolmaster/policeman until the Jews became converted and healed by the Spirit of Jesus.

The ten commandments operated and continue to operate, as an 'not seen' schoolmaster by conditioning the beliefs and conscience of the Jews:

2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
15 But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.

Moses conditioned the belief and conscience of the Jews with the false idea that the ten commandments were from God and were God's eternal laws. He did this so as to manage and control their behavior.

By having the Jews falsely believing that the ten commandments were from God and that these laws were God's eternal laws, there was no need for a system of physically operated justice which include physical schoolmaster/policemen etc.

By having the Jews falsely believing that the ten commandments were from God and that these laws were God's eternal laws, the Jews would fear the idea of transgressing these laws and they would not transgress these laws. In this way Moses would be able to manage these Jews. This is role of a schoolmaster.

Moses had to do this because the Jews were landless and could not have 'seen'/physical systems for managing their behaviors.

A schoolmaster is not a tutor. A tutor is another discipline which came after. At any event, Jews are under the ten commandments, which is a schoolmaster, only until they become 'converted' and are healed by the Spirit of Jesus. Then they are no longer under the ten commandments. Only then do they come under tutors and governors:

The Jews were and are, to stay in that fooled-up state under the ten commandments/schoolmaster, only until they were converted and healed by the Spirit of Jesus:

Galatians 3 King James Version (KJV)
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.

Matthew: 13 KJV N.T.
15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

The Jews were and are, to stay in that fooled-up state under the ten commandments/schoolmaster, only until they were converted and healed by the Spirit of Jesus. Then they get tutors and governors:

Galatians: 3 King James Version (KJV)
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
1 Now I say, That the heir, as long as he is a child, differeth nothing from a servant, though he be lord of all;
2 But is under tutors and governors until the time appointed of the father.

The Jews were and are, to stay in that fooled-up state under the ten commandments/schoolmaster, only until they were converted and healed by the Spirit of Jesus. Then they get tutors and governors. That is when the vail is lifted by the Spirit of Jesus:

2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
15 But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.
16 Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.
17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

The Jews must become converted and healed by the Spirit of Jesus to know truth, drop the ten commandments, cease being Jews, become Christian. This is how they become liberated from bondage under the ten commandments and become saved and delivered into God's kingdom of heaven.

Jesus (not Moses) brought grace and truth to those people and he said: what ever were the intents of the ten commandments, these intents did not work to save and deliver any one to God's kingdom of heaven. The ten commandments proved to be a curse and a flawed covenant, with respect to salvation and deliverance to God's kingdom of heaven:

Galatians: 3 King James Version (KJV)
13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:

Hebrews: 8 KJV N.T.
7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.

Romans: 3 KJV N.T.
19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.

The ten commandments applies only to those who discern wisdom in, esteem, use, invoke and promote the ten commandments. Only all all such people accrue sin.

Romans: 3 King James Version (KJV)
23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

In the final analysis, as done by Jesus, all who discern wisdom in, esteem, use, invoke and promote the ten commandments in the least way, sin, fall short of the glory of God and are eventually and inevitably delivered into hell inside the earth, with Satan.

Indeed the ten commandments were and continue to be a curse with respect to salvation and deliverance into God's kingdom of heaven.

At best the ten commandments are useful for managing the behavior of the dead, until they become spiritually aware . . . and this was Moses only intended divine use for the ten commandments.

The NKJV N.T. is a serious corruption of the Holy KJV N.T.

Epoisses
July 14th, 2017, 05:43 AM
If you knew anything you would know that 'law' in the bible means Torah or the first 5 books of Moses not the ten commandments only.

Just another blather artist.

Gurucam
July 14th, 2017, 06:08 AM
If you knew anything you would know that 'law' in the bible means Torah or the first 5 books of Moses not the ten commandments only.

Just another blather artist.

I profess to teach nothing that I know of my self. I post only the Holy KJV N.T., literally and I accept their literal messages.

If you are seeking truth (which is essentially the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven), you will recognize that Moses did not bring grace or truth. These came only with Jesus Christ

John: 1 King James Version (KJV)
17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

You will recognize that Moses did not use great plainness of speech, he lied, by omission:

2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
12 Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech:
13 And not as Moses, which put a veil over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:
14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.
15 But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.
16 Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.
17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

If you are seeking truth (which is essentially the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven), you will recognize that the above is totally supported by the following independent revelations:

Colossians: 1 King James Version (KJV)
26 Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints:

Matthew: 13 KJV N.T.
10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.

All of the above says, absolutely literally and clearly, that before the advent of the physical Jesus on earth, no one brought and nothing contain, truth and/or the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven.

The scriptures absolutely literally and clearly says that things of Moses, including the Old Testament and the ten commandments do not contain truth and do not contain the mysteries/keys to God's kingdom of heaven.

I do not seek truth in the O.T.. Also I do not seek the mysteries of/key to God's kingdom of heaven in the O.T..

However you are absolutely free to discern wisdom in, esteem, use, invoke and promote the things of Moses, including the O.T. and the law etc.. You are free to esteem what you wish, for your self.

However you are not to foist those O.T. ideas on aspiring Christians and Christians. If you do, you are an unawares, false spying brethren, among us, if you try to pass those things off, as 'Christian' and especially if you seek to have aspiring Christians and Christians recognize, esteem, use, invoke and promote the Old, Mosaic, O.T., ten commandments, you are the worse.

Aspiring Christians and Christians are prohibited from esteeming, using, invoking and promoting the O.T. and the ten commandments.

Gurucam
July 14th, 2017, 06:44 AM
Aspiring Christians and Christians are prohibited from esteeming, using, invoking and promoting the O.T. and the ten commandments.

Aspiring Christians are many. They are simply called to be Christians. Christians are a few. They are the chosen:

Matthew: 22 King James Version (KJV)
14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

Aspiring Christians and Christians are seekers of truth which include the mysteries/keys to God's kingdom of heaven.

The Holy KJV N.T. is the only Holy Book for aspiring Christians and Christians. Truth, including the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven will not be found in the O.T.

The Holy KJV N.T. says, very clearly that both aspiring Christians ( i.e. the called) and Christians (the chosen) are justified to transgress the ten commandments and when they do so as to serve their spirit and soweth to Spirit in perfect harmony, they are glorified by God:

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

Acts: 13 King James Version (KJV)
39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.

The above says that aspiring Christians ( i.e. the called) and Christians (the chosen) are justified to transgress the ten commandments. And when they do so as to serve their spirit and soweth to Spirit in perfect harmony, they are glorified by God.

Also in support of the above are these other independent revelations:

Romans: 3 KJV N.T.
21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

Acts: 13 King James Version (KJV)
39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.

Romans: 8 King James Version (KJV)
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

2 Corinthians: 3 King James Version (KJV)
17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

Epoisses, according to literal revelations in the Holy KJV N.T., you are an unawares, false spying brethren among aspiring Christians and Christians.

You are cunningly, sneaky, openly and corruptly trying to return unsuspecting aspiring Christians (the called) and Christians (the chosen) to bondage under the O.T. and the ten commandments and so remove them from grace, truth and Christ.

John: 1 King James Version (KJV)
17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

Galatians: 2 King James Version (KJV)
4 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage:

Galatians: 5 King James Version (KJV)
1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
2 Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.
3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.
4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.
Please cease and return to the ranks of the Jews where you belong. No love will be lost . . . and you might just be saved from the more serious wrath of Jesus.

Gurucam
July 14th, 2017, 01:39 PM
The O.T. has absolutely nothing to offer aspiring Christians (i.e. the many who are called to be Christians) and Christians (i.e. the chosen few).

Colossians: 1 King James Version (KJV)
26 Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints:

Matthew: 13 KJV N.T.
10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.

The above says, in no uncertain terms, that the mysteries/keys to God's kingdom of heaven would not be found in any scriptures/manuscript (like the O.T.) before 2000 odd years ago.

Also the above says, in no uncertain terms, that the mysteries/keys to God's kingdom of heaven would not be found in any parable in the Holy KJV N.T.

The above says, in no uncertain terms, that the mysteries/keys to God's kingdom of heaven would be found only in those few deliveries which Jesus made to only the disciples, in private sessions among only them.

Matthew: 16 KJV N.T.
18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

Make no mistake, the idea of being saved and delivered to God's kingdom of heaven and the mysteries/keys to God's kingdom of heaven, came among the generations of Abraham only 2000 odd yeas ago, with the advent of the physical Jesus on earth. And even then, this idea and these mysteries/keys were given by Jesus to only the disciples, in very private sessions among only them.

In absolute clarity the above confirms that, for the first time among Abraham's generations, only the disciples were given to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven, just 2000 odd years ago.

In addition to the above, the following say that only the disciples were given by God, to follow Jesus (and to get the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven from Jesus):

John: 6 KJV N.T.
65 And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.
66 From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.
67 Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away?

The above says, grace, truth and being 'in Christ' is totally about Jesus.

The Holy KJV N.T. says that truth, grace and being 'in Christ' came to the generations of Abraham only 2000 odd yeas ago, solely with the advent of the physical Jesus on earth. Please let no one fool you.

Let no one bamboozle you with O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments theories and ideas. These are total foolishness for aspiring Christians and Christians:

John: 1 King James Version (KJV)
17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

All the above says that the O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments tradition and all things related to the O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments tradition, does not contain any of the following:

1. truth and grace
2. the idea of God's kingdom of heaven
3. the idea of going to God's kingdom of heaven
4. the key to God's kingdom of heaven
5. the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven
6. Christianity.

The above are literal revelations in the Holy KJV N.T.

Only the Holy KJV N.T., is an account of both
1. the physical, 'seen', flesh and blood, earthly, temporal, son of man Jesus and,
2. the Spirit, eternal, Son of God Lord Jesus.

And indeed only Jesus brought forth and created Christianity.

The Holy KJV N.T. is the only Holy Book for Christians.

Those who seek to bring the O.T., the Mosaic/Jewish tradition and ten commandments into Christianity and make them a part of Christianity are false prophets and unaware false spying brethren:

Matthew: 24 King James Version (KJV)
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

Matthew: 7 King James Version (KJV)
15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

Galatians: 2 King James Version (KJV)
4 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage:

These false prophets, unawares false spying brethren and wolves in sheep clothing are dangerous.

They will cunningly and corruptly seek to return you to bondage under the O.T./Mosaic tradition/ten commandments. This will take you off grace, truth and Christ. And this will deny you God's kingdom of heaven and instead have you sent to hell, inside the earth, with Satan.

Beware of Epoisses.

genuineoriginal
July 14th, 2017, 05:37 PM
However when one transgress the ten commandments so as to please one's spirit/love, one brings forth only fruits onto God and no fruits onto death.
If Paul is right in what he wrote, then you are a liar and a false teacher.

1 Corinthians 6:8-10
8 Nay, ye do wrong, and defraud, and that your brethren.
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

Gurucam
July 15th, 2017, 02:58 AM
If Paul is right in what he wrote, then you are a liar and a false teacher.

1 Corinthians 6:8-10
8 Nay, ye do wrong, and defraud, and that your brethren.
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.

It is clear what is literally said in the above.

The above revelation from the Holy KJV N.T. literally says/instructs

1. this revelation is about marriage, sex, sexual procreation, coveting and fruits of these things.

2. the fruits of the above are children.

3. there are two kinds of fruits/children that are brought forth from marriage, sex, sexual procreation and coveting.

4. from marriage, sex, sexual procreation and coveting, humans can bring forth either fruits onto God or fruits onto death.

5. with respect to marriage, sex, sexual procreation and coveting, 'fruits onto God' are 'children of God', like Isaac and 'fruits onto death' are 'children of the flesh', like Ishmael.

6. the 'thou shall not covet' commandments is a law of sin and death (it killeth).

7. One is held under the 'thou shall not covet' commandment whiles one is in 'the flesh'/'dead within'/'the dead'.

8. those who are held under the 'thou shall not covet commandments' are under a curse because, the motion of sin which was by that commandment, work on them to bring forth only 'children of the flesh', like Ishmael and no 'children of God', like Isaac.

9. 'The dead' (i.e. children of the flesh) have no choice. Their righteousness with respect to marriage, sex, sexual procreation, coveting and fruits of these things is to be held under the 'thou shall not covet commandment'. And under that commandment, they brought forth only children of the flesh, like Ishmael.

10. now however there are people who are newly spiritually aware. They are newly 'converted'. They are no longer 'dead within', 'in the flesh' and/or 'the dead'. They are now 'in their spirit' and so they can serve in the newness of spirit.

11. these newly spiritually aware people are new persons. Before they were in the flesh and with respect to marriage, sex, sexual procreation, coveting and fruits of these things they were kept under and regulated by the 'thou shall not covet commandment'. Now this has changed.

12. these newly spiritual aware/newly 'converted' people can serve in the newness of spirit/love

13. these newly spiritually aware people are 'dead to' and 'delivered from' the 'thou shall not covet commandment' so that they can serve in the newness of spirit/love.

14. these newly spiritually aware people have new instructions. They are instructed to covet, so as to serve in the newness of spirit/love.

15. these newly spiritually aware people are instructed to drop and transgress the 'thou shall not covert' commandment, so that they can serve in the newness of spirit/love.

16. these newly spiritually aware people are instructed to drop their old mate/spouse to whom they were glued to according to the O.T./'thou shall not covet' idea and get new ones that are according to serving their spirit/love.

17. the old system of esteeming, using, invoking and promoting the 'thou shall not covet commandment' was solely for the 'spiritually dead'. This is totally 'done away with' for spiritually aware people.

18. spiritually aware people (those who can serve in the newness of spirit) are save from the curse of the 'thou shall not covert commandment'. Esteeming, using, invoking and promoting the 'thou shall not covet commandment' caused then to bring forth only children of the flesh. Now, by transgressing this commandment, so as to serve spirit/love, they stop bring forth children of the flesh (like Ishmael) and bring forth only children of God (like Isaac).

Matthew: 21 KJV N.T.
43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.

Obviously you have a corrupted rendition of the above. What is your 'deceptive', 'self abusing' 'interpretation' of the above?

According to the above, if one esteem, use, invoke and/or use promote the 'thou shall not covet commandments' one's off springs would be fruits onto death/children of the flesh.

However if one transgress the 'thou shall not covet commandments' so as to serve spirit/love, one brings forth only fruits onto God/children of God.

The very serious questions are:
1. Are you bringing forth only fruits onto God/children of God and are therefore going to inherit God's kingdom of heaven? . . . or.
2. Are you bringing forth only fruits onto death/children of the flesh and are therefore going to be cast out of God's kingdom of heaven? . . . and
3. Are your off springs fruits onto God/children of God . . . or
4. Are your off springs fruits onto death/children of the flesh?.
5. Do you soweth to spirit and Spirit? . . . or
6. Do you soweth to flesh under the thou shall not covet commandment?

Based on your esteeming, using, invoking and promotions of thou shall not covet commandment the answer to the above questions are very obvious and damning to you. You justify and glue your sexual and procreating unions under flesh and the thou shall not covet commandment and not under spirit and love.

You are simply endorsing and justifying spiritless/loveless sex and procreation instead of spirit/love sex and procreation.

That law was given by Moses (not God). Where as God is quite literally Love. Why do you want to stand on the side of foolishness and corruption?

These who esteem, use, invoke and promote the thou shall not covet commandment soweth to flesh and reap corruption, all around.

Those who transgress the thou shall not covet commandment so as to serve spirit/love soweth to Spirit.

After everyone physically death, he/she goes through the following separation and dispatch in the spirit realm. One goes to either heaven or hell:

Where do you stand? How you currently soweth will determine your judgment and dispatched (to either heaven or hell) when you die. This will happen immediately after you die, physically:

Hebrews: 9 King James Version (KJV)
27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

Galatians: 6 King James Version (KJV)
7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.

Matthew: 25 KJV N.T.
31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

Gurucam
July 15th, 2017, 03:20 AM
You cannot deny that Abraham had two sons.

One was a fruit onto death, i.e. a child of the flesh. The other was a fruit onto God, i.e. a child of God.

Humans can and do bring forth two kinds of children. The following is how Abraham brought forth these two different types of children,

They were brought forth under the two covenants:

One, Ishmael, was born under the first O.T./ten commandments/mount Sinai/'cast out of heaven' covenant. He was a child of the flesh'

The other, Isaac, was born under the N.T./spirit and Spirit/Jesus/Christian/inheriting God's kingdom of heaven above, covenant. He was a child of the promise/child of Spirit/child of God.

Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.
23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.

24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; (1.) the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.
25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.
26 (2.)) But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

27 For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband.
28 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.
29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.
31 So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free.

Romans: 9 King James Version (KJV)
7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.
9 For this is the word of promise, At this time will I come, and Sarah shall have a son.

Galatians: 3 King James Version (KJV)
14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

Gurucam
July 15th, 2017, 03:42 AM
One covenant, the first one is anchored on, flesh and O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments/inevitably accruing sin/inevitably falling short of the glory of God and inevitable delivery to hell, inside the earth, with Satan.

The other is anchored on, serving one's own spirit in perfect harmony with the Holy Spirit/transgress the ten commandments//N.T./Jesus/going to God's kingdom of heaven/Christian.

Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; (1.) the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.
25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.
26 (2.)) But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

There are two covenants:

Covenant: 1. The O.T. covenant, i.e. the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar. For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.

This is the bringing forth only fruits onto dead/children of the flesh covenant.

This is the O.T./Mosaic/Jewish/ten commandments covenant. This is the law of sin, death, inevitably accruing sin, falling short of the glory of God and ultimately being buried inside the earth, in hell, with Satan.

This is about soweh-ing to flesh and reaping corruption. Abraham brought forth Ishmael under this covenant. He reaped corruption. Ishmael was a child of the flesh/child of the mount Sinai covenant. Ishmael persecuted Isaac who was a child of the promise/child of Spirit/child of God.

Covenant: 2. The N.T. covenant, But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

This is the bringing forth only fruits onto God/children of God covenant.

This covenant relates to God's kingdom of heaven above, in the spirit realm. This covenant also relate to going to God's kingdom of heaven above, in the spirit realm into the mansion in God's house which Jesus went ahead to prepare for Christians. This is the serving one's own spirit in harmony with the Holy Spirit.

This is about soweth-ing to Spirit and reaping eternal life covenant. Abraham brought forth Isaac under this new covenant.

Galatians: 6 King James Version (KJV)
7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.

Gurucam
July 15th, 2017, 05:58 AM
The kingdom of God shall be given to a nation bringing forth fruits onto God. The kingdom of God shall be taken away from those nations bringing forth fruits onto death.

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.

Verse # 5 above says:

"For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law (i.e. the thou shall not covet commandment), did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death."

'Fruits onto death' are the fruits of Satan.

The above revelation also conveys how to stop bringing forth fruits onto death and start bringing forth fruits onto God. 'Fruits onto God are fruits of God.

The Holy KJV N.T. also says:

Matthew: 21 KJV N.T.
43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.

Humans can bring forth two kinds of fruits. These are fruit onto death or fruit on to God.

The question is,
1. Which fruit a nation must bring forth in order to to be given God's kingdom of heaven?
2. Which fruit a nation must bring forth in order that God's kingdom of heaven be taken from them?

The answer is very obvious to most.

A nation must bring forth, fruits onto God, in order to to be given God's kingdom of heaven.

And a nation must bring forth, fruits onto death, in order that God's kingdom of heaven be taken from them.

And it is confirmed in the Holy KJV N.T. that: "For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law (i.e. the thou shall not covet commandment), did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death."

So . . . Why would one want to esteem, use, invoke and promote the 'thou shall not covet commandment? Under the motion of sin which was by this commandments, all humans bring forth only fruits onto death and no fruits onto God.

Most people esteem, use, invoke and promote the 'thou shall not covet commandment conveniently. They use this commandment to justify and prop-up their spiritless/loveless/Godless/carnal marriages/unions.

Then they have spiritless/loveless/Godless/carnal sex in those union and bring forth only fruits onto death/children of the flesh. This is a curse and a direct delivery to hell, inside the earth, with Satan.

I have to point out these revelations because genuineoriginal is trying to return aspiring Christians and Christians to bondage under the curse that is the 'thou shall not covet commandment'.

By doing so genuineoriginal will have you bring forth only fruits onto death. Then God's kingdom of heaven will be taken from you and your entire nation, like you.

The Jews are the nation who esteem, use, invoke and promote the 'thou shall not covet commandment'. Now a billion strong traditional Christians have joined them.

Clearly the kingdom of God shall be taken from those nations (who esttem the thou shall not covet commandment and so, bring forth only fruits onto dead)' The kingdom of God will be given to a nation bringing forth fruits onto God.

Where do you smarter guys want to be? . . . . clearly as far away, as possible from genuineoriginal, who might be original (as in the O.T.) but not genuine.-

Clearly genuineoriginal is deliberately promoting the ten commandments, unilaterally. He is simply recruiting people for hell, inside the earth, with Satan because no one who esteems, uses, invokes and promote the ten commandments makes it. They all suffer spiritual death, sin, fall short of the glory of God and are eventually delivered to hell, inside the earth, with Satan.

I can't believe that genuineoriginal is so foolish as not to read and accept the above clear revelation, from the Holy KJV N.T..

Notice the arrogant, 'know it all', self-righteousness of those who want to return you to bondage under the ten commandments. They stand with those Jews who remained Jews (i.e, did not become Christians). Some of them come among aspiring Christians and Christians as unawares, false brethren, as spies.

Galatians: 2 King James Version (KJV)
4 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage:

. . . the likes of genuineoriginal and those others who esteem the thou shall not covet commandment, denied, persecute, tortured and killed Jesus and persecuted Christians and continued to do so, up to this day.

1 Thessalonians 2 KJV
14 For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews:
15 Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men:

Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.

Children of the flesh (i.e. those born under the 'thou shall not covet commandment') always (i.e. before Jesus, during the physical Jesus on earth and up to now) persecute children of God (i.e. those born to parents who transgress the thou shall not covet commandments so as to procreate with partners according to their own spirit/love.

By seeking to return aspiring Christians and Christians to bondage under the thou shall not covet commandment, genuineoriginal is denying and persecuting Christians (children of God) on this forum.

Please discern, know and identify your company properly and treat them accordingly. You cannot afford to be careless.

The likes of genuineoriginal, denied, misled, persecuted and destroyed billion of innocent, unsuspecting aspiring Christians before you guys. These billions were your past generations. Your elders, your parents, your uncles, your aunts, your grand parents, etc.. Do not let them do so to you guys and/or any one in currently generations.

. . . please stand up for Jesus and Christianity.

genuineoriginal and the likes are committing a great transgression. They will face the wrath of Jesus when they die. Moses cannot help them.

You however, have to amour yourselves (with the pure and literal words of the Holy KJV N.T.) and look after yourselves:

Ephesians 6 King James Version (KJV)
11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

You enemy are sly nice sounding people close to you. They are skilled in posturing like lemon used car sales people. They will sell you lemon ideas, and you may never know it.

The Holy KJV N.T. instructs:

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet

The revelation also confirmed that the law under discussion (which one is 'dead to' and 'delivered from') is the thou shall not covet commandment. It is very clearly confirmed in the above revelation from the Holy KJV N.T., that 'the thou shall not covet commandments' is totally 'done away with, for those who can serve in the newness of spirit.

genuineoriginal and other influential people and institutions, seek to have you deny your God given freedom, liberty, justification and instruction to transgress the 'thou shall not covet commandment' so as to return you to bondage under the 'thou shall not covet commandment'.

Clearly that is spiritual wickedness in all ways.

Ephesians 6 King James Version (KJV)
11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

It is serious spiritual wickedness to deny one his/her God given freedom, liberty, justification and instructions to transgress the thou shall not covert commandments so as to unconditionally serve in the newness of spirit.

. . . wake-up and smell those who continue to openly deny, persecute, torture and kill Jesus, genuine Christians and genuine Christianity, in plain sight, right bellow your very ears, sight and noses.

The Holy KJV N.T. is your Holy Book, dear aspiring Christians and Christians. Drop O.T. people and the O.T. and embrace only the Holy KJV N.T.

The Holy KJV N.T. is your only source for the mysteries of/the key to God's kingdom of heaven. You will not find these mysteries/keys in the O.T. or in any source before 2000 odd yeas ago. Do not play around with your eternal life and delivery to God's kingdom of heaven.

You do not want to be among O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments people. They are on the left side of Jesus. You, aspiring Christians and Christians, are on the right side of Jesus.

Hebrews: 9 King James Version (KJV)
27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

Galatians: 6 King James Version (KJV)
7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.

Matthew: 25 KJV N.T.
31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

. . . see the long letter I have written you. It is all literally, KJV N.T. revelations.

Galatians: 4 King James Version (KJV)
16 Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?

I am a tutor and governor for the recently dawned, Age of Enlightenment in Christ.

I am a tutor and governor for aspiring Christians, 'babes in Christ' and even for 'adults in Christ'.

For the past 2000 odd years, 'the dead' were very powerful. They rule principalities, especially in the form of huge churches and church organizations. They were the rulers of darkness of this world. They practiced and perpetrated spiritual wickedness from their high places. Their time has ended.

They refused to look to things that are 'not see' and eternal. They delighted only in things that are 'seen' and temporal:

2 Corinthians: 4 King James Version (KJV)
18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.

They cannot help themselves, far less to help you, with this New Age of Enlightenment in Christ, which is now upon the surface of earth.

Seems that only tutors and governors for the recently dawned, Age of Enlightenment in Christ, on the surface of earth, are relevant and useful at this time.

Gurucam
July 15th, 2017, 09:19 AM
Matthew: 21 KJV N.T.
43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.

The kingdom of God shall be given to a nation bringing forth fruits onto God. The kingdom of God shall be taken away from those nations bringing forth fruits onto death.

The time is at hand. God's kingdom has come to earth with the recent increased empowerment of the Spirit of Jesus, on the surface of earth. .

God's kingdom of heaven is being delivered to the appropriate nations.

God's kingdom of heaven is being delivered to those nations who have been bringing forth fruits onto God. They are not O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments people.

Among Abraham's nations, they are the chosen few. They are the authentic Christians. They brought forth only fruits on to God and no fruits on to death. They are the 'nation' who will inherit. They are the ones who actually and literally accepted and followed Jesus in the right way.

Galatians: 3 KJV N.T.
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
1. Now I say, That the heir, as long as he is a child, differeth nothing from a servant, though he be lord of all;
2 But is under tutors and governors until the time appointed of the father

Among Abraham's generations, the right way to follow Jesus, is to become 'converted' (spiritually aware) and discern the Spirit of Jesus within one's now open heart, and be led into all of one's works by this Spirit even if one has to transgress the ten commandments. That is. a Jew must cease being a Jew and become a Christian. A jew must cease esteeming, using, invoking and promoting the ten commandments and embrace the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus:

Romans: 8 King James Version (KJV)
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

. . . simply put, beware of genuineoriginal, and the likes. They simply try tricks to corruptly seek to include (force fit) the O.T,/Mosaic/ten commandments traditions into the N.T./Jesus/spirit and Spirit/Christian tradition. These are like chalk and cheese. At all forums, the old must give way to the New. At all forums, the old must be totally 'done away with' to give way to the new.

. . . we are facing such a transformation, on the surface of earth, at this time.

Gurucam
July 15th, 2017, 10:26 AM
Matthew: 21 KJV N.T.
43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.

The above is directly linked to:

Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.
23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.
29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.

Ishmael was a fruit onto death, a child of the flesh.

However Isaac was a fruit onto God, a child of God,

Although Abraham brought forth two kinds of fruits he inherited heaven. He was an exception. He stood at the tress-hold to the new instruction.

After Abraham only Isaac and the generations of Isaac were able to soweth to spirit and Spirit and so, bring forth only children of God.

Ishmael and his generations continue to soweth to flesh and the ten commandments They brought forth only children of the flesh:

Romans: 9 King James Version (KJV)
7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.

Make no mistake Isaac and the generations of Isaac are those Jews who ceased being Jews. They abandon the ten commandments and became Christians. They are the children of God They are the generation who bring forth fruits thereof and are given God's kingdom of heaven.:

Galatians: 3 KJV N.T.
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

Ishmael and his generations remained Jews. They remained under the ten commandments. They are the children of the flesh. At all events they are cast out of God's kingdom of heaven.

The result of this is that for the past 2000 odd years, only Abraham, Isaac and Isaac's generations inherited God's kingdom of heaven in the spirit realm. And only they and others like them who are alive on earth, will inherit, God's kingdom of heaven on the surface of earth, at this time:

Luke: 13 KJV N.T.
28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.

Do not be taken-in by people who for all their (spiritually dead) life, esteemed, used, invoked and promoted the ten commandments (generally because it suited their convenience). At this eleventh hour, they will be trying any-which-way to piggy back on Christianity to survive. They will not make it. Only genuine and authentic truly and fully actualized Christians will be counted.

'Make-believe' Christians are very many. They are fooling only themselves.

No Christian esteem, use, invoke and promote the ten commandments, even in the slightest manner. Only make-believe Christians do so and they are very many. At least a billion strong traditional Christians.

The time is at hand:

Daniel: 12 KJV.
4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

Knowledge shall be increased in the fullness of time (which is now at hand). Then the (purified) gospel will be published in all lands (as it is being done here):

Mark: 13 KJV N.T.
10 And the gospel must first be published among all nations.
11 But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Ghost.
14 But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:

Gurucam
July 15th, 2017, 12:13 PM
The 'time of the end' is at hand:

Daniel: 12 KJV.
4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

The time of the end occurs when there is a consequential awakening of spiritual awareness on earth. This result from the strengthening (on the surface of earth) of the Spirit of Jesus who passes knowledge.

The strengthening (on the surface of earth) of the Spirit of Jesus results in increased capacity to transcend space and time and assess past events and knowledge as they are unfolding. This result in knowledge about, the physical Jesus, the Spirit of Jesus and Christianity becoming purifying and increasing on the surface of earth:

Ephesians: 3 King James Version (KJV)
16 That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man;
17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,
18 May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;
19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.

Recent through new heavenly bodies realignment, the Spirit of Jesus, on the surface of earth, strengthened significantly. This resulted in humans intuitively receiving clearer and more profound and increased knowledge from the Spirit of Jesus.This is describes as the time of the end when knowledge shall be increased

This is also accompanied by the event of, only children of God, inheriting the surface of earth, with out children of the flesh:

Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.

Knowledge about, the physical Jesus, the Spirit of Jesus and Christianity is purifying and increasing on the surface of earth in 'time of the end' (which is now at hand). Then the (purified) gospel will be published in all lands (as it is being done here and now):

Mark: 13 KJV N.T.
10 And the gospel must first be published among all nations.
11 But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Ghost.
14 But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:

Please do not continue to 'sleep'.

If you come onto truth at this time you can still make it.

Gurucam
July 16th, 2017, 05:43 AM
These posts constitute 'an intellectual/intuitive path to salvation and deliverance.

This approach is a well preserved but secret passage that is hidden in plain sight in the Holy KJV N.T.

Wittingly or unwittingly, foolish unawares false brethren and false prophets have rewritten (and so corrupted) the Holy KJV N.T.. Those 'altered' (corrupt) versions are described as, the NKJV N.T. etc..

Those other version were not 'inspired'. They lack essential dimensions of the fullness of the Holy KJV N.T.. They will keep one deprived of salvation and deliverance. They should not be used.

Only the KJV N.T. is Holy and holds all dimension of the keys to/mysteries of, salvation and God's kingdom of heaven.

Foolish people corrupt (rewrite, 'interpret' etc.) the Holy KJV N.T..

Wise people seek out the literal substance that is literally the Holy KJV N.T.. They 'drink the nectar' that is the literal Holy KJV N.T.

The intellectual/intuitive passage to salvation and deliverance is achieved when the blunt and unadulterated, not interpreted, not corrupted and literal truth in the Holy KJV N.T. becomes a clear and living truth for one.

This is achieved by accepting the Holy KJV N.T., and bringing one self to 'see' that it is a total, none contradicting, holistic, literal message in its 'as is' and intact state.

This requires you to put aside your own ego (dismiss your preconditioning) and become a sincere seeker of truth, like a new unconditioned child.

A child trust and accept and learn. He does not presume to know.

This passage takes one pointed devotion dedicated to proving to one's self that the Holy KJV N.T. is literally accurate, not self contradicting and complete, as it is.

This path/passage is lost to one who assumes that the Holy KJV N.T. has errors and careless or other mistakes . . . and that its literal message must be correct or interpreted (supposedly correctly). This is a totally self-defeating path.

The intellectual/intuitive path to salvation and deliverance is being introduced here. This is anchored on accepting the Holy KJV N.T. as it literally is and seeking to get its total, inherent, holistic and non contradicting nature/message.

Do not rely on and invoke 'a verse here and another one there' and ignore others, to anchor your salvation and deliverance. If you do, you will be flushed down:

Ephesians 6 King James Version (KJV)
11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

The blessing of the path being introduced here, is that it is an 'intellectual pursuit' and therefore very suited to the sensibilities of 'the dead' who tend to be physically based, 'unrelenting intellectuals'. Only later one becomes awakened to spirit and intuition and the doorway to the goal becomes wide open.

Gurucam
July 16th, 2017, 12:19 PM
This path being introduced here by me on this forum, does not require one to have a near death experience in order to awaken to the spirit realm and truth like Dr. Eben Alexander.

In fact the path introduced and used here, by me, on this forum, seeks to help one avoid the need for a near death experience, in order to know truth.

Dr. Eben Alexander is very well established American trained, Harvard graduate, Neurosurgeon. Essentially he was previously an unrelenting totally physically oriented 'intellectual'. That was until he had a near death experience and came back with truth of his own survival in his spirit body and the spirit realm.

click here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbkgj5J91hE

I have introduced and have been using, an intellectual/intuitive path to salvation and deliverance, by my posts on this forum. This is anchored on accepting the Holy KJV N.T. as it literally is and seeking to get its total, inherent, holistic and non contradicting nature/message.

Gurucam
July 16th, 2017, 02:11 PM
The entire O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments ideas were presented to appease and manage, 'the dead' (i.e. the spiritually dead) . . . until they become 'converted' (cease being the spiritually dead) and can actually have intuitive awareness of their own spirit, the spirit realm, grace and truth.

The spiritually dead are essentially, physically based, 'unrelenting intellectuals'.

The entire O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments ideas were and are without any idea or recognition, of spirit, Spirit and the spirit realm.

The intellectual/intuitive path to salvation and deliverance is being used here, by me.

This is anchored on accepting the Holy KJV N.T. as it literally is and seeking to get its total, inherent, holistic and non contradicting nature/message. This is anchored on not changing and/or interpreting any thing in the Holy KJV N.T..

This path is anchored on total and literal acceptance of every thing in the Holy KJV N.T. as it is. It is about bringing one's own awareness to realize that the Holy KJV N.T is literally and completely correct and it's verses/revelations does not in any way contradict each other.

The exercise is for one to validate the above fact to one's self, through one's own devoted effort. This is essentially an intellectual search which one must do as a one pointed devotion.

This is a 'reversed approach'. Fact is, any true Christian would know and recognize that the Holy KJV N.T. is totally (spiritually) inspired and inherently holistic and not at all self-contradicting, in any way.

The blessing of the path being introduced here, is that it is an 'intellectual pursuit' and therefore very suited to the sensibilities of 'the dead' who tend to be physically based, 'unrelenting intellectuals'. Only later one becomes awakened to spirit and intuition and the doorway to the goal becomes wide open.

It cannot be so bad to ask one to accept the Holy KJV N.T., as it is.

This is simply a request that one suspend one's ('know it all, self-righteous') ego, at least for a while and recognize the Holy KJV N.T. as the superior authority, respectfully.

The billion strong traditional Christians are the only people who routinely and deliberately butcher the Holy KJV N.T. and then praise it and promote it as the only book from God . . . foolishness prevails.

The billion strong traditional Christians are not Christians. However, clearly they want to be Christians. They are simply called but deceived. This is the opportunity to get it right and be chosen.

For example: The Holy KJV N.T. says:

Acts: 13 King James Version (KJV)
39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.

The message is clearly, one who believes in Jesus has justification to transgress the law of Moses, which are the ten commandments.

An aspiring Christian should not move immediately to prove that 'the law of Moses' is not the ten commandments . . . leave that for the Jews.

A Christian is not a Jews. A Jew must be 'converted', drop the ten commandments, come onto Christ and cease being a Jew in order to be Christian.

You should seek out other revelations/verses in your Holy KJV N.T. which clarify which law one is justified to transgress.

The Holy KJV N.T is put together, very wisely in such a manner that it's truths are hidden in plain sight. There are specific words which connect revelations.

Romans: 3 KJV N.T.
21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

To add further clarity, the following is about being 'delivered' from the 'thou shall not covet' commandments so that one is justified to transgress that law in order to serve in the newness of spirit:

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

. . . and there are lots more revelations/verses which confirm that the Christian way is: those who are converted (spiritually aware) have God given freedom, liberty, justification and instructions to transgress the ten commandments so as to serve spirit and Spirit.

Do not be fooled/deceived, the Christian way opposes and dismisses the Jewish way. This is why the Jews of old, killed Jesus and persecuted Christians:

1 Thessalonians: 2 KJV N.T.
14 For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews:
15 Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men:

Do not continue to be fooled, the Jews violently opposed Jesus' New covenant which did away with the ten commandments for Christians. The Jews kill Jesus for introducing and promoting His New covenant. They killed Jesus in an attempt to destroy the New covenant which 'did away with' the ten commandments for Christians. They also persecuted aspiring Christians and Christians.

Some Jews continued to oppose Christianity and persecute Christians, up to this day.

Fact is the O.T.Mosaic/ten commandments system is carnal based. It is for carnal people who are 'the dead' (spiritually dead):

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.

Christianity is spirit and Spirit based. Christianity is for spiritually aware people. Christianity is about transgressing the ten commandments so as to serve spirit.

The denial, dismissal, attempted banishment, killing and persecution of Jesus, Christianity and Christians was and continue to be spiritual wickedness in high places.

2000 odd years ago the Jews were principalities and powers and the darkness of this world. They perpetrated spiritual wickedness from their high places. They continued to do this for the past 2000 odd years. They have corrupted Christianity and kept it corrupted, up to this day.

Ephesians: 6 King James Version (KJV)
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

The New covenant had to go underground. It had to be hidden in plain sight in the Holy KJV N.T., essentially because of the Jews.

One's mission as an aspiring Christian is to detect these hidden truths in the Holy KJV N.T.. Beware of the continuing Jewish corruption of Christianity.

Christians have God given freedom, liberty, justification and instructions to transgress the ten commandments and all O.T. ideals so as to serve spirit and Spirit.

Those who opposed and undermine Christianity always face the wrath of the Spirit of Jesus when they die. At any event, they die unawares (of their spirit) and they are dragged where ever their dead physical bodies go, which is inside the earth, in hell with Satan.

They get no help in the spirit realm. No one can successfully oppose the Spirit of Jesus in the spirit realm. In the spirit realm after death, no one can help those who were against Jesus while they lived.

Romans: 12 King James Version (KJV)
19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.

Mark: 8 King James Version (KJV)
36 For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?

The above is the predicament of those who opposed and undermined Jesus, Christianity and Christians . . . i.e. by seeking to return and successfully keeping and/or returning, aspiring Christians and Christians in bondage under the ten commandments.

. . . the situation is extremely serious, totally untenable and terminal for those who promote the O.T. and the ten commandments as a part of Christianity and even for those who esteem, use, invoke and promote the o.t. and the ten commandments.

Why trade 70 to 100 years of prosperity and comfort on earth for an eternity in hell, thereafter?

Why gain the 'whole world' while you live on earth and loose your soul when you die?

Hebrews: 9 King James Version (KJV)
27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

Galatians: 6 King James Version (KJV)
7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.

Gurucam
July 16th, 2017, 06:28 PM
The entire O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments ideas were presented to appease and manage, 'the dead' (i.e. the spiritually dead) . . . until they become 'converted' (cease being the spiritually dead) and can actually have intuitive awareness of their own spirit, the spirit realm, grace and truth:

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.

Those who esteem, use, invoke and promote the O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments ideas are essentially committed to the comforts of earth/the things of men.

They would have no treasures in the spirit realm.

This is the recipe for gaining this world and loosing one's soul.

Mark: 8 King James Version (KJV)
36 For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?

Matthew: 16 King James Version (KJV)
22 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.
23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.

Gurucam
July 17th, 2017, 12:07 AM
1 Corinthians: 15 KJV N.T.
35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven

The natural body is the 'first man' or physical body. The spiritual body is the second man or spirit body.

The first man is of earth, i.e. made of the fabric of earth. The first man is earthly, of flesh and blood. The first man is about man.

The second man is heavenly, i.e. made of the fabric of heaven, i.e. made of spirit. The second man is about God, the Holy Spirit.

The first man savor the things of man. The second man savor the things of God.

Some people are simply not aware of their second man. They are aware of only their first man. They are described as 'the dead'. So they savor only the things of man and not the things of God. They are 'in the flesh'. They are 'dead within'. They are Satan. They can soweth only to flesh. They cannot soweth to spirit and the Spirit.

Matthew: 16 King James Version (KJV)
22 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.
23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.

The ten commandments are for people who savor the things of man (flesh things) and not the things of God (spirit things), i.e.the ten commandments are for Satanic people.

Those who savor the the things of God (spirit things) and not the things of man (flesh things) have God given freedom, liberty, justification and instructions to transgress the ten commandments so as to serve spirit.

Matthew: 6 King James Version (KJV)
24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

:idea: The ten commandments are the law of mammon/man. They are laws for people in the flesh, i.e. people who are dead within. These laws were given by Moses. They are for regulating the physical lives of people who are 'the dead'.

To esteem, use, invoke and promote the ten commandments is to soweth to flesh and reap corruption. Corruption includes children of the flesh, like Ishmael. Under this life style, one remains 'spiritually dead' and one and one's off-springs are cast out of God's kingdom of heaven. :grave: :rip: :down: :dead: :CRASH: :devil: :deadhorse: :nono: :bang: :sigh: :angrymob: :cry: :loser: :dead: :jawdrop: :olinger:

:idea: Transgressing the ten commandments, so as to serve spirit, is the law of God.

By transgressing the ten commandments so as to ssoweth to spirit and Spirit, one bring forth only children of God, like Isaac. And reaps eternal life and entry to God's kingdom of heaven

:cloud9: :up: :cheers: :wave: :the_wave: :allsmile: :1Way: :first: :

Galatians: 6 King James Version (KJV)
7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
9 And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season (on our own judgment day) we shall reap, if we faint not.

Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son (children of the flesh): for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman (children of God).

According to the Holy KJV N.T. (i.e. the only Holy Book for aspiring Christians and Christians) the ten commandments are not simply laws which one can esteem, use invoke and promote or not esteem, use, invoke and promote.

According to the Holy KJV N.T. the ten commandments are a serious curse. One must not esteem, use, invoke and promote the ten commandments, even in the least way. :noway:

Gurucam
July 17th, 2017, 05:52 AM
Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?

'This body of this death' is the O.T./law of sin and death'/the ten commandments.

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.

Notice that in the above, also, the Holy KJV N.T. says that: the law of sin (the ten commandments) are not the law of God. They are different.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

One cannot walk after both flesh and also after spirit.

Children of the flesh walk after the flesh and serves the ten commandments.

Children of God walk after the Spirit. They abandon and transgress the ten commandments so as to serve spirit and Spirit.

Matthew: 6 King James Version (KJV)
24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

To serve God is to serve the law of God which is to transgress the ten commandments so as to serve spirit. This how a child of God lives, serves and soweth.

To serve mammon is to serve flesh. This is to serve the law of sin and death which is the ten commandments. This is how a child of the flesh lives, serves and soweth.

Galatians: 6 King James Version (KJV)
7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
9 And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season (on our own judgment day) we shall reap, if we faint not.

Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son (children of the flesh/ten commandments people): for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman (children of God/spirit and Spirit people).

Sheep are authentic Christians/spirit and Spirit people. They are here to claim/inherit their promised home, i.e. the surface of earth. The fullness of time is at hand. No place will be available, left or held, on the surface of earth, for goats and/or wolves and goats in sheep clothing.

Goats are flesh/ten commandments people. Wolves and goats in sheep clothing are flesh/ten commandments people who are pretending to be Christians.

Matthew: 25 KJV N.T.
31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

Matthew: 7 King James Version (KJV)
15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

Galatians: 2 King James Version (KJV)
4 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage: (under the ten commandments)

These posts are the Holy KJV N.T., literally, in clarity, totality and purity. This wisdom/truth is now the living and dominating reality on the surface.

One has to come onto these truth, as one's living and obvious reality, in order to be able to breadth/live on earth, as the Age of Enlightenment in Christ progresses on the surface of earth.

2000 odd years of old things are being totally discarded to give way to the New Enlightened way.

The 'time of the end' is at hand. Many are or will soon be, running to and fro (in mad frenzies). At any and all event, knowledge shall be increased, as is happening here and now:

Daniel: 12 KJV.
4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

Wake up and read the first signs. They are here to help you.

Gurucam
July 17th, 2017, 09:54 AM
Nothing eternal about the ten commandments, which killeth spiritual awareness:

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.

Moses gave the ten commandments and the ten commandments brought spiritual death:

John: 1 King James Version (KJV)
17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

Of course, for the past 2000 odd years, some Jews have been coming among aspiring Christians, as unawares false spying brethren and deceiving the foolish ones into believing that, the ten commandments are eternal laws.

These Jews have been returning unsuspecting foolish aspiring Christians to bondage under the ten commandments. They have been pushing aspiring Christians to spiritual death and out of grace, truth and Christ.

Galatians: 2 KJV N.T.
4 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage

Galatians 5King James Version (KJV)
1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
2 Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.
3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.
4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.

Dear, dear aspiring Christian, please get serious about and prioritize, your salvation and deliverance.

Stop esteeming, using, invoking and promoting the 'thou shall not covet commandment' because it prop-up your carnal, spiritless/loveless unions, in your short temporal life on earth. Stop destroying/forsaking your eternal lives for 70 to 100 years of comfort, on earth, on your terms.

All 'the thou shall not covet commandment' does is to control and manage the physical lives of humans. This law is a cruse with respect to your judgment after your physical death:

Hebrews 9:27King James Version (KJV)
27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment

The 'thou shall not covet commandment' is a law of sin, death, accruing sin, falling short of the glory of God and certain delivery to hell inside the earth with Satan. This is only one of the curses of the 'thou shall not covet commandment'.

The other curse is that when you are held under the 'thou shall not covet commandment', you bring forth only fruits onto death/children of the flesh, like Ishmael. You bring forth no fruits onto God/children of God, like Issac.

The aim of Jesus and God is to fill the surface of earth with only children of God, like Isaac, totally without children of the flesh, like Ishmael:

Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son (children of the flesh/ten commandments people): for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman (children of God/spirit and Spirit people).

The 'thou shall not covet commandment' endorses and encourages you to soweth to and walk after, only flesh and not at all to soweth to and walk after, Spirit:

Galatians: 6 King James Version (KJV)
7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

Galatians: 4 King James Version (KJV)
16 Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?

Dear, dear aspiring Christians, for the past 2000 odd years, you and your ancestors, have been held under an Anti-Christ/pro-Jewish spell. There is not much you can do for your ancestors. However, it is time for you to awaken, before too late is your cry.

1 Thessalonians 2 KJV
14 For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews:
15 Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men:

This persecution of Christians by some Jews happened before the advent of Jesus on earth, during his physical presence on earth and it was prophesied to continue up to the 'time of the end' when they will be totally banished from the surface of earth

Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son (children of the flesh/ten commandments people): for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman (children of God/spirit and Spirit people)

Gurucam
July 17th, 2017, 11:23 AM
The 'time of the end' is at hand. God's kingdom of heaven has come on earth. God's will is being done on earth (as it is done in heaven).

Matthew: 6 King James Version (KJV)
10 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.

Do not wait any longer. If you wait too much longer, you will be running to and fro, in a mad frenzy. Then it will be too late, at that time.

Come onto increasing knowledge as provided in these posts and threads of mine, now, before too late is your cry:

Daniel: 12 KJV.
4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

Clearly the 'time of the end' is at hand for knowledge is increasing. Prior to this 'the words were shut-up' and 'the book was sealed'. That is, the truth was hidden in plain sight in the Holy KJV N.T.. However few ever discerned the truth.

Now, knowledge is increasing. The words are no longer shut-up, the seal is broken. Tutors and Governors for the Age of Enlightenment in Christ are appointed. The 'time of the end' is at hand.

Truth is being published in purity and clarity, here and now, in the 'time of the end'. Knowledge is increasing.

I have added not one small thing to the Holy KJV N.T.. I post nothing that has not been hidden but totally recorded in the Holy KJV N.T. for millenniums.

Soon 'goats' will be running to and fro in mad frenzies. :confused: :angrymob:

'Goats' are the great masses of people who are on the left hand (or physical/O.T./ten commandments side) of Jesus. They are not heirs to God's kingdom of heaven.

Matthew: 25 KJV N.T.
41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

'Sheep' are on the right hand (or spirit and Spirit/N.T./Christian side) of Jesus. They are heirs to God's kingdom of heaven, both in the spirit realm (for the past 2000 odd years) and now, on the surface of earth, in the 'time of the end'. :angel: abound. :cheers: :the_wave:

Matthew: 25 KJV N.T.
34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world

2000 odd years ago, Jesus said:

Matthew: 10 King James Version (KJV)
34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

Over the past 2000 odd years great masses of people became complacent. They disbelieve the above. It was not palatable to their sensibilities. They came up with their own theories/righteousness, leaving aside the righteousness of God and they embraced those.

. . . a billion strong traditional Christians are so grossly misled and so far from truth, grace and Christ. They all esteem, use, invoke and promote the ten commandments in some way or the other. They stumble at that stumbling block.

. . . now they are being consumed by the raging fire of their own 'know it all', 'self-righteous' egos. Their lives are ruled by this guy: :devil:. They are very far away, on the totally opposite side of 'meek'.

These guys always believe that they are and posture like, 'self-righteous', 'know-it-all' people and try to teach the 'meek' a thing or two. Fact is, they can teach the 'meek; nothing. They must learn from the 'meek'.

Matthew: 5 King James Version (KJV)
5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.

Gurucam
July 17th, 2017, 06:38 PM
The meek accept the Holy KJV N.T., as it literally is. They get truth, do not err and inherit the earth, when God's kingdom of heaven comes here.

The meek are like little children.

The meek are not know-it-all, ego driven, interpreters and corrupter of the Holy KJV N.T.

The meek accept the Holy KJV N.T. as it literally is. They have become as children, again or they were always, as children. They are 'converted' (i.e. spiritually awakened) people. They know that they do not know anything. They know also that those who led and guide them before did not know truth.

Therefore they come as unconditioned (and brand new) seeks to learn every thing fresh and new, from the Holy KJV N.T.. This is the passage.

Matthew: 5 King James Version (KJV)
5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth (when God's kingdom of heaven comes to earth).

John: 3 King James Version (KJV)
3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

Matthew: 18 King James Version (KJV)
3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Matthew: 13 KJV N.T.
15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

The meek are those who have been 'converted' and dropped their know-it-all, self-righteous egos and become like little children.

The converted are 'the dead' who have become new born in spirit. Such people are newly spiritually aware. As 'the dead', they were adults in the flesh. Now that they are newly converted to awareness of their own spirit/heart, they are babes or little children as spiritually aware people.

They are 'born again'. They have become little children again (a second time). They do not return to be little children of the flesh. They cannot loose their adult awareness of their flesh. They become little children of spirit. Being newly spiritually awaken, they are little children of spirit. Now they must learn spiritual things like little children.

Now they can and must drop and transgress the ten commandments so as to serve in the newness of spirit:

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

Newly spiritually awaken people are babes or little children, in spiritual awareness. They must approach the Holy KJV N.T. (afresh) as little children. That is, they must approach the Holy KJV N.T. with reverence and acceptance. They must approach the Holy KJV N.T. for learning and not as know-it-all, ego driven, interpreters and corrupter of the Holy KJV N.T.

This is a reliable passage to Christian salvation and deliverance.

Approaching the Holy KJV N.T. as a know-it-all, ego driven, interpreter and corrupter of the Holy KJV N.T. is the posturing of one who is not converted. This is the posturing of 'the dead' in Jesus instruction:

Matthew: 8 King James Version (KJV)
22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.

Gurucam
July 18th, 2017, 10:37 AM
Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
2 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.
23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.
29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
4 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.
25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.
26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.

The above says that Abraham had two sons and they were born according to two different covenants.

Ishmael was a child of the flesh and he was born according to the covenant from 'mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar. This Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children'.

Issac was a child of promise/child of Spirit. He was born under another covenant. He was born according to the covenant of 'Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all'.

To add clarity to the above, the Holy KJV N.T. says the following:

Romans: 9 King James Version (KJV)
7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.

The above says that only Issac and his generations are children of God. Ishmael and his generations are not children of God, they are children of flesh.

The Jew will have you believe that they are of Issac generations and they are the children of God. This is totally contrary to the Holy KJV N.T.

The Holy KJV N.T. says that the children of God are those Jews who became converted, dropped and now transgress the ten commandment, cease being Jews, embraced Christianity and became Christians:

Galatians: 3 KJV N.T.
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Therefore let no (cunning) Jews fool you.

The children of God are not the Jews who remained Jews and continued to esteem, use, invoke and promote the ten commandments.

The children of God are those Jews who ceased being Jews and cease esteeming, using, invoking and promoting the ten commandments, and instead transgress the ten commandment so as to serve their own spirits in harmony with the Holy Spirit.

The children of God (who will inherit God's kingdom of heaven) include only those Jews of Abraham's generations who left the O.T./Mosaic/ten commandment/Jewish tradition behind and fully embraced the N.T./spirit and Spirit/Spirit of Jesus tradition.

Dear aspiring Christians, do not be deceived. Choose your associates very carefully.

Dear aspiring Christians,

There are many false prophets and unawares false spying brethren who are among you to deny you your God given freedom, liberty, justification and instruction to transgress the ten commandments so as to serve your spirit in harmony with the Holy Spirit. They do this so as to corruptly return you to bondage under the ten commandments.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

The above speaks about those (the masses) who are called to Christianity, in the hope of being among the few who are chosen. This is linked to:

Matthew: 22 King James Version (KJV)
14 For many are called, but few are chosen

Romans: 8 KJV N.T. verse: 30 above says that they are justified. This is justification to transgress the ten commandments:

Acts: 13 King James Version (KJV)
39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.

The billion strong traditional Christians were misled. They ignore this God given freedom, liberty, justification and instruction to transgress the ten commandments so as to serve their spirit in harmony with the Holy Spirit. This is the essential path to being Christian. With out this lifestyle on cannot be a child of God or a Christian. One has totally missed the boat.

Instead the billion strong traditional Christians corruptly esteem, use, invoke and promote the ten commandment and claim it to be a part of Christianity.

The result of the above is that the billion strong traditional Christians soweth to flesh (under the ten commandments) and did not at all soweth to Spirit. And cannot be and are not the chosen few:

Galatians: 6 King James Version (KJV)
7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
9 And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season (on our own judgment day, immediately after physical death) we shall reap, if we faint not.

Matthew: 22 King James Version (KJV)
14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

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Hawkins
July 18th, 2017, 10:51 AM
No.

Core commandments may exist in each and every covenant. Whether they are part of the Law depends on the nature of the covenant itself. That is, it relies on on what purpose the commandments will serve in terms of one's judgment.

In the covenant with Moses. The 10 commandments as the core commandments of the covenant serve as Law in terms of how the Jews will be judged.

In the New Covenant, all 10 commandments except for Sabbath are still part of the core commandments. However in terms of one's judgment, they don't act as Law but commandments as the term itself reflects.

When they are to serve as Law, it means that once you break one you break all the laws just as James put. When they don't serve as Law, they are still commandments you need to observe. The difference is that you won't be judged the same way as before. If in the scenario that you break one of them, it by no means says that you won't be able to be saved. If on the other hand, you keep breaking them deliberately, it by no means says that you can still be saved. You choose to keep breaking them could mean that your faith is dead as James put. And as Jesus put, the "O Lord" in your mouth won't save you if you are an evil doer. It definitely says that Jesus and only Jesus can judge the situation.

To simply put, you can't choose to ignore what Jesus Himself said,

Matthew 19:17-19 (NIV2011)
“Why do you ask me about what is good?” Jesus replied. “There is only One who is good. If you want to enter life, keep the commandments.”
“Which ones?” he inquired. Jesus replied, “ ‘You shall not murder, you shall not commit adultery, you shall not steal, you shall not give false testimony, honor your father and mother,’ and ‘love your neighbor as yourself.’”


Matthew 22:36-40 (NIV2011)
“Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”
Jesus replied: “ ‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’
This is the first and greatest commandment.
And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’
All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”

Gurucam
July 18th, 2017, 11:23 AM
this was an incomplete duplication of the next post. It was deleted. Please ignore this one and go to the next post.

Gurucam
July 18th, 2017, 11:25 AM
No.
I post only the literal truth/revelations in the Holy KJV N.T.

There is therefore, really nothing to debate or disagree.

One can, at best, correct a quote that is a misquote of the Holy KJV N.T.

Debates are anchored on interpreting the Holy KJV N.T.

I am not going to do any interpretations of the Holy KJV N.T.

And indeed there are million or even very many more interpretations of the Holy KJV N.T., (both formal and published and informal). This renders any kind of debate of interpretations of the Holy KJV N.T., redundant and pointless.

Interpretations give rise to at least, millions of 'gates' and 'ways'. Fact is there is one straight gate and one narrow way:

Matthew: 7 King James Version (KJV)
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

There is only one straight gate and one narrow way. It is anchored on the only law of God. Do not confused the laws that Moses gave (i.e. the ten commandments) to be the laws of God. They are not:

John 1 King James Version (KJV)
17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

The above is clear and literally correct. The ten commandments are the laws of Moses, not God. This is why one who believes in Jesus is justified to transgress these laws:

Acts 13 King James Version (KJV)
39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.

The law of God is totally different. The law of God is the basis of:

Hebrews 9 King James Version (KJV)
27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment

The law of God is defined/enunciated as follows:

Galatians: 6 King James Version (KJV)
7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
9 And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.

Immediately after physical death, your individual judgment and dispatch to either heaven or hell is based on whether you soweth to Spirit or to flesh, while you lived on earth.

The goal of Christians is to rise, clad only in their spirit bodies, by three days after they physically die, to be like angels in heaven, in the mansion in God's house which Jesus went ahead to prepare for them:

John: 14 King James Version (KJV)
2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

On the topic of going to God's kingdom of heaven, I will draw your attentions to the following literal revelations in the Holy KJV N.T. which literally say that: only the Holy KJV N.T. contains the mysteries of and keys to, God's kingdom of heaven and these mysteries are contained only in those private deliveries which Jesus made to only the disciples/saints just 2000 odd years ago:

Colossians: 1 King James Version (KJV)
26 Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints:

Matthew: 13 KJV N.T.
10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.

Therefore if an aspiring Christian is seeking salvation and deliverance to God's kingdom of heaven, the O.T./Mosaic/ten commandment tradition is useless. They do not contain the mysteries of, the keys to or path to God's kingdom of heaven.

In fact the ten commandments are the laws of sin and death (spiritual death). And the spiritually dead (i.e. 'the dead') cannot rise to heaven, when they physically dies. 'The dead' are dragged by their dead physical bodies, into the depths of earth, in hell, with Satan, when they physically die.

Also from among revelations in the Holy KJV N.T., only those chosen few deliveries which Jesus made to only the disciples, among only them, counts for something.

Of course not everyone seeks the mysteries of and key to, salvation and God's kingdom of heaven in the Holy KJV N.T.. Clearly some people seek debates.

These debates seems to be just another way that people fill up their time that would other wise be much more boring.

The Holy KJV N.T. speak of knowing scriptures and the power of God, not interpreting scriptures:

Mark 12 King James Version (KJV)
24 And Jesus answering said unto them, Do ye not therefore err, because ye know not the scriptures, neither the power of God?

The very first thing about knowing scriptures is that only the Holy KJV N.T. contains the mysteries of and keys to, God's kingdom of heaven and these mysteries are contained only in those private deliveries (recorded in the Holy KJV N.T.) which Jesus made to only the disciples/saints just 2000 odd years ago.

The above opens the door (guides one to) the actual Christian mysteries in the Holy KJV N.T. These constitute the new things, the New Testament, i.e. the new covenant, that Jesus brought to replace the O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments tradition i.e. the Old covenant, for Christians:

Hebrew: 8 KJV N.T.
7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.

Readers, Do not let Hawkins' absolutely convoluted and foolish post derail you from accepting the Holy KJV N.T., literally.

In the very least taking the Holy KJV N.T. literally, beats the 'hell out of' taking Hawkins' convoluted post with any degree of seriousness.

. . . for, have no doubt, there is serious hell in Hawkins' convoluted foolish post.

What, indeed, is that, convoluted rhetorical nonsense about? Do you know?

Sounds like the rhetoric of a lemon used car sales person (who is trying to sell a lemon idea). Is he trying to sell the ten commandments (i.e. the law of sin and death) to aspiring Christians?

It seems intended to bamboozle and confuse you and return you to or keep you in, bondage under the ten commandments and so deprive you of truth, grace and Christ:

Galatians: 2 KJV N.T.
4 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage

Galatians 5King James Version (KJV)
1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
2 Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.
3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.
4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.

Gurucam
July 18th, 2017, 01:59 PM
Matthew 19:17-19King James Version (KJV)
17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,
19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Jesus did not have any intention of describing the ten commandments as God's commandments and he did not call them God's commandments.

For Jesus, the ten commandments are simply the commandments which the Jews claim that they must uphold in order to 'enter into life'.

. . . indeed the ten commandments were simply the commandments given by Moses. The Jews (not Jesus) believed that those commandments were from God.

Jesus simply reiterated the Jewish idea to Jews. Jesus seems to be playing with (or challenging) those Jews by throwing back their foolishness on them.

As far as Jesus and Christianity goes, the ten commandments were a dead end. All who esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments, sin and fall short of the glory of God. Therefore Jesus would hold that those Jews were foolish and would tread them as such.

Romans: 3 KJV N.T.
19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God

Romans 3 King James Version (KJV)
23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

The O.T/Mosaic/ten commandments tradition was flawed:

Hebrew: 8 KJV N.T.
7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.

Because Jesus found the O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments tradition to be flawed, He introduced righteousness of God that is without the ten commandments. He did away with the O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments tradition but only for those who choose to follow him (i.e. Christians):

Romans: 3 KJV N.T.
21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

Acts 13 King James Version (KJV)
39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.

Some Jews like Abraham, Isaac and Isaac's generation abandon the O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments tradition and came onto the N.T./Jesus/spirit and/Spirit/righteousness of God that is without the ten commandments tradition. They cease being Jews and became Christians. These are the children of God/Christians.

Other Jews remained under the O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments tradition. These Jews were and continue to be, Ishmael and Ishmael's generations. These remained Jews. Jesus had no regard for these generations of Abraham. These were 'children of the flesh' also called 'the dead' and Jesus' instruction was 'let the dead bury their dead'.

Abraham, Isaac and Isaac's generations, were and are spiritually aware. They followed Jesus and became Christians and cease being Jews.

Ishmael and his generations were and are the children of the flesh. They remained Jews. They did not follow Jesus. Children of the flesh are 'the dead' (i.e. spiritually dead). Jesus mission, aim and intent for 'the dead' is 'let the dead bury their dead'. Jesus' attitude was let the Jews bury each other by esteeming, using, invoking and promoting the ten commandments.

Romans: 9 King James Version (KJV)
7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.

Matthew: 8 King James Version (KJV)
22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.

Galatians: 3 KJV N.T.
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

Who are children of God?

for, ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. . . . Christians are children of God, i.e. those who follow Jesus. Those who cease being Jews and became Christians.

Who are children of God?

In Isaac shall thy seed be called, the children of the promise are counted for the seed

Who are the children of the flesh also described as 'the dead':

They which are the children of the flesh (Ishmael), these are not the children of God. His seed are not counted for children of God. They did not follow Jesus and become children of God/Christians. These are Jews who remained Jews. Children of the flesh are 'the dead'. Jesus aim and attitude for these is 'let the dead bury their dead' . . . total disdain.

Matthew: 10 King James Version (KJV)
34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son (Jews): for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman (Christians).

Ishmael and his generations remained Jews they did not follow Jesus and become Christians. Abraham, Isaac and Isaac's generations cease being Jews and followed Jesus and became Christians.

Luke 13 King James Version (KJV)
28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.

This is the truth for Christians, as stated in the Holy KJV N.T.

Gurucam
July 18th, 2017, 04:45 PM
Matthew: 19 KJV N.T.
16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,
19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
20 The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet?
21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.

According to Jesus, even if one upholds all the ten commandments, perfectly, one is not perfect.

According to Jesus, to be perfect, one must forsake all flesh and earthly things and seek heavenly treasures by following Jesus. Is this not perfectly clear:

Matthew: 6 King James Version (KJV)
19 Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:
20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:
21 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also

Mark 8 King James Version (KJV)
36 For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?.

Transgressing the ten commandments is no 'biggie' when it comes to salvation and deliverance. The above (i.e. where your treasures are) are the 'biggies' when it comes to salvation and deliverance.

To earn eternal life, it matters not what else one does. One must follow Jesus. Eternal life is about going to heaven when one dies. This is totally and only about following Jesus to God's kingdom of heaven:

John: 14 King James Version (KJV)
2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

What indeed is the worth of the ten commandments if 'All these things have I kept from my youth up' and yet, one is not perfect?

To one who had upheld the ten commandments since his youth, Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.

. . . the key words here are 'follow me' and 'treasures in heaven'. 'Follow me' relates to 'following Jesus and letting the dead bury their dead'. 'Follow me and 'treasures in heaven' relate to following Jesus to God's kingdom of heaven, when one dies physically.

'Let the dead bury their dead' relates to the law of sin, death, falling short of the glory of God and being buried inside the earth, in hell, with Satan . . . when one dies physically.

Matthew: 8 King James Version (KJV)
22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.

These relate to one's judgment immediately after one dies physically:

Hebrews: 9 King James Version (KJV)
27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment

'Follow me' is to literally follow Jesus. This is to rise in three days after one's physical death, clad only in one's spirit body to be like an angel in heaven, in the mansion in God's house which Jesus when to prepare for those who actually and literally follow him.

'Let the dead bury their dead' is let the spiritually dead (i.e. those who savor thing of flesh and earth) bury each other in hell, inside the earth, with Satan, when they die physically.

Until one follows Jesus one is 'the dead' who will bury each other. The dead are Satan, who savor the things of man (flesh and earthly thing) and not the things of God (heavenly things which are spirit and Spirit.

Matthew: 16 King James Version (KJV)
22 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.
23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.
24 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.

Clearly the ten commandments does not define perfection. Upholding the ten commandments does not make one perfect. Clearly this was not the purpose of the ten commandments.

The ten commandments are simply for keeping one managed and well behaved while one is in the flesh/Satanic/'the dead'. The dead are consumed with flesh and earth. The dead are committed to and consumed by things of earth and things of man and not things of God.

Upholding the ten commandments whether perfectly or not is nothing when it comes to things of God and going to heaven.

In order to get things of God and go to heaven, one must cease being the dead, (i.e. become spiritually aware) and come onto Christ, (i.e. one must follow Jesus). This was Jesus' passage.

Galatians: 3 KJV N.T.
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

In order to get things of God and go to heaven, one must cease being the dead, (i.e. become spiritually aware) and come onto Christ, (i.e. one must literally follow Jesus).

The following is the passage which Jesus traveled. This is the transformation which Jesus accomplished, on earth, in order to go to heaven, when he died physically. This is the legacy of Jesus. This is the mystery and key to God's kingdom of heaven. Every one who wants to go to heaven, when he dies must accomplish the same:

1 Corinthians 15 King James Version (KJV)
35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.

The above is anchored totally on becoming 'converted' (i.e. on the dead becoming aware of his/her own heart/spirit). This is how Jesus heals one. The above is the passage which Jesus suffered through and left, as an example, for his followers. It is anchored on 'the dead' becoming converted to awareness of his own heart/spirit.

Matthew: 13 KJV N.T.
15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

Jesus came to earth as 'the dead'. That is as a spiritually dead man. He came in this manner so as as to rise from this dead state to spiritual awareness and Christ consciousness. Then to leave this technique and legacy for spiritually dead humans (who were essentially the Jews).

Hebrews: 2 King James Version (KJV)
9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.
10 For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.

Jesus tasted spiritual dead (being 'the dead') by being born as a child of the flesh, in a Jewish home under the ten commandments.

Galatians 4 King James Version (KJV)
4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,

Parents who esteem, use, invoke and promote the ten commandments bring forth only 'the dead' (i.e. fruits onto death/children of the flesh):

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.

After his birth as 'the dead', Jesus rose to spiritual awareness and Christ and when he died he rose to heaven clad only in his spirit body, as the first Son of God from among people of Abraham generations. Then he became the Lord from and in heaven.:

1 Corinthians: 15 King James Version (KJV)
20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.

(them that slept are the spiritually dead also called 'the dead'.)

Therefore Jesus has to forms. One temporal and the other eternal.

During Jesus physical presence on earth he was the physical, 'seen' and temporal earthly, flesh and blood, son of man, Jesus. And he was not the Lord from or in, heaven. He was not consequential. One can blaspheme him and one shall be forgiven, guaranteed:

Matthew: 12 King James Version (KJV)
32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

However after Jesus died physically and rose to heaven, He became the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Jesus, Who is the Lord from and in, heaven. In this format, Jesus is entitled to all things due to the Holy Ghost.

The Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Jesus, who is the Lord from and in, heaven is the pure Son of the Holy Ghost. In this format, Jesus is totally without a 'man' part or 'man' side.

If one blaspheme the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Jesus, who is the Lord from and in, heaven, one will not be forgiven, in this world neither in the world to come.

Gurucam
July 18th, 2017, 06:18 PM
Romans 5 King James Version (KJV)
12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.

Romans: 4 King James Version (KJV)
15 Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression.

As far as Jesus, Christianity and Holy KJV N.T. are concerned sin and spiritual death (i.e. making people 'the dead) came into the world by Moses when he gave the ten commandments.

Sin and spiritual death came with the ten commandments. The ten commandments are the laws of sin and death:

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.

Therefore by Moses came sin and death and by another man, i.e. Jesus, sin and spiritual death were removed for those who actually and literally believed and follow Jesus:

Romans: 5 KJV N.T.
15 But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.

Romans: 3 KJV N.T.
21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

Acts 13 King James Version (KJV)
39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.

Those who choose to esteem, use, invoke and promote the ten commandments (even in the least way) are choosing sin, falling short of the glory of God, spiritual death and eventual and inevitable burial inside the earth, in hell with Satan.

There are no different shades or interpretations of the above fact.

. . . let no one fool you, with simple or convoluted rhetorical nonsense.

Indeed convoluted and/or rhetorical nonsense will be commonly presented, for there are many false prophets and many unawares false spying brethren:

Matthew: 24 King James Version (KJV)
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

Galatians: 2 KJV N.T.
4 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage

Gurucam
July 19th, 2017, 02:21 AM
Romans: 5 KJV N.T.
14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.

The curse is not transgression of the ten commandments and getting sin. And not even earthly wealth. Those thing are permitted and nothing, if one is no longer 'the dead' and led by one's flesh.

The curse is being spiritually dead (i.e. to be 'the dead') and living as a spiritually dead person. A spiritually dead person can be led only by his/her flesh. Such a one can savor only the things of flesh and earth and not the things of spirit, Spirit, God and heaven.

The above say that 'even after Adam's (original) transgression', 'them who had not sin', remained spiritually dead . . . this was and continue to be the curse.

Adam's original transgression is that Adam/humans cease being spiritually aware and became spiritually dead. Adam/humans became 'the dead' . . . this is the curse which befell humans and denied them entry to God's kingdom of heaven on earth and in the spirit realm. And this curse reigned from Adam to Moses among all of Abraham's generations.

This state of being spiritually dead reigned from Adam to Moses and continued to reign after Moses and all through the advent of the physical Jesus and up to very recently on earth.

Abraham's generations (and some others) needed to be saved from this curse of being 'the dead'.

To be saved is to be converted from being 'the dead' to being aware of one's own heart/spirit. This is to be healed by Jesus. This is the mystery of/keys to, God's kingdom of heaven.

To be converted is to become spiritually aware. This is to cease being 'the dead' and become aware of/awakened to one's own heart/spirit. This is to be healed by Jesus

Matthew: 13 KJV N.T.
15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

Gurucam
July 19th, 2017, 09:52 AM
'The dead' are children of the flesh. They have a curse. They cannot inherit God's kingdom of heaven, either in the spirit realm or on earth in physical bodies.

'The dead' are 'the spiritually dead'. They are dead to their own heart/spirit. They can and do savor only the things of man/flesh/earth and not the things of God/spirit and Spirit/heaven.

The dead can and do soweth only to flesh and reap corruption. They cannot soweth to Spirit and reap eternal life:

Galatians: 6 King James Version (KJV)
7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
9 And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.

'The dead' are described as: "this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed." They are aware of only their flesh side.

Matthew: 13 KJV N.T.
15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

To be converted is to have a heart/spirit that is no longer waxed gross/covered over. This is to cease being 'the dead' by becoming awakened to/aware of one's own spirit or spiritual body.

We all have two bodies. 'The dead' are people who are aware of only their natural body (i.e. their physical body). The converted are people who are aware of their natural body and their spirit body.

1 Corinthians 15 King James Version (KJV)
35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

In the following Jesus' indicated his attitude towards and intent and plan for, the dead:

Matthew: 8 King James Version (KJV)
22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.

The 'converted' are the others. They are different. They can follow Jesus and become Christians:

Those who are converted are instructed to transgress the thou shall not covet commandments, so as to serve in the newness of spirit. . . . this is how one follows Jesus.

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

To be converted is one's second or spirit birth. Before the advent of Jesus very few if any among those people, had this second spirit birth. They were all 'the dead' (i.e. spiritually dead) at birth. They remained 'the dead' through out their physical life. And they died physically as 'the dead'. They could not and did not rise to spirit heaven after they physically died.

The above was the predicament and end of even those who esteemed, used, invoked and promoted the ten commandments while they physically lived on earth.

Jesus was born 'the dead' became 'converted' then transgress the ten commandments so as to serve His Spirit. To do this is to 'follow Jesus' on earth, while one is physically alive. When these people physically die they immediately rise out of their physical bodies, clad only on their spirit bodies. Then they rise in three days to be like angels in spirit heaven. They literally follow Jesus into the mansion in God's house which He went ahead to prepare for those who follow Him.

John: 14 King James Version (KJV)
2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

These people can return to earth, in physical bodies, soon, now that God's kingdom of heaven is on the surface of earth. 'The dead' can accomplish none of these things. 'The dead' hold 'one way tickets' to that other place.

Hebrews: 2 King James Version (KJV)
9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.
10 For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.

Gurucam
July 19th, 2017, 04:39 PM
It is common to hear some traditional Christians say: All people are children of God.

. . . seems that they trying (begging) to get in by default. They are simply promoting corruption of the Holy KJV N.T. because they want to sound nice and sweet. Clearly they are false prophets.

How is this possible? How can all people be children of God? How can even a billion strong traditional Christians be children of God?

Why then is the end defined by:

Matthew 22 King James Version (KJV)
14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

Luke 13 King James Version (KJV)
28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.

Romans: 9 King James Version (KJV)
7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.

Those false prophets also call Jesus, the prince of peace. They are not interested in truth. They simply convert anything, including Jesus to what they like:

Matthew: 10 King James Version (KJV)
34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

. . . what indeed, would a billion strong traditional Christians know? Clearly they cannot be the chosen few who know truth, do not err and are the chosen few.

At best a billion strong traditional Christians are the many who are deceived by many false prophets:

Matthew: 24 King James Version (KJV)
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

Of course, instead of trying to get on the right hand of Jesus, there are traditional Christians who will 'any which way' distort some Holy KJV N.T. revelation to attempt to counter the above.

In fact, it seems to be the standing method of operation of traditional Christians to 'any which way' distort Holy KJV N.T. revelations which does not suit them. They call this 'interpreting' for you because you do not know.

A billion strong traditional Christians are in serious trouble.

Gurucam
July 20th, 2017, 02:33 AM
Colossians: 1 King James Version (KJV)
26 Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints:

Matthew: 13 KJV N.T.
10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.

Matthew: 16 KJV N.T.
18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

Hebrews: 2 King James Version (KJV)
9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.
10 For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.

Jesus came (to earth) to discern the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven and then develop the keys to God's kingdom of heaven. And then pass on these mysteries and keys to human. This defined the entire life of Jesus, on earth, as confirmed by Hebrew: 2 verse: 9 & 10 KJV N.T. above.

1. Do you guys know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven?
2. Do you guys know the keys to God's kingdom of heaven?
3. Do you guys know what is God's kingdom of heaven?
4. Are you guys interested in being heirs to God's kingdom of heaven?
5. Are you guys interested in living in God's kingdom of heaven, here on earth and elsewhere?
6. Or are you guys simply contented to be stuck at the level of debating 'interpretations'?

The answers to questions 1 to 5 above will be found only in the Holy KJV N.T.. and not at all in the O.T.

A guy lost the keys to his car. He knew that he accidentally dropped them in his bedroom and he told his girlfriend that much. However his girlfriend notice that he was looking for those keys in his living room. So she asked him the obvious question, i.e., why was he looking for those keys in his living room when he knew that they are in his bedroom? His reply was, 'There is no light in my bedroom.'

The above demonstrates the typical approach of traditional Christians with respect to the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. They are totally derailed by foolish ideas and foolish conditioning which they have long accepted and blindly held to be 'wisdom'.

Does the following say any thing to you guys:

1 Corinthians 5 King James Version (KJV)
5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

Does the word 'saved' in the phrase 'may be saved in the above, say any thing consequential to you guys?

Is 'the spirit may be saved' in some way linked to 'salvation'? . . . . You think???

Isn't the above saying that Satan have a church/commission which serves a mission that is at least positively connected to Jesus?

Did not Jesus identify Peter to be Satan and also gave him a church?

Then the above (1 Corinthians: 5 verse: 5 KJV N.T.) must define the parameter of Peter's church. The church of Peter and co. is where 'the dead' are sent to be 'converted' and kept only until they are 'converted'. (Then they naturally and spontaneously go to/embrace Paul's Christian commission.)

Matthew: 13 KJV N.T.
15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

Is not 'conversion' a big deal? Is this not one of the big mysteries of and keys to God's kingdom of heaven which Jesus suffered to discern and bring to humans.

How late are you guys to the above truth in the Holy KJV N.T.?

Do you guys know how to be 'converted'?

Do you know that if you discern wisdom in, esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments, in the least way, you are still 'the dead' and in serious need to be 'converted' to spiritual awareness?

There is no passage to God's kingdom of heaven without being 'converted'. Without being 'converted', one is not healed by Jesus.

Are you still looking for your keys in the wrong place, simply because you were distracted by and conditioned with, false and foolish ideas, by false prophets and unawares false spying brethren?

Gurucam
July 20th, 2017, 01:50 PM
Have you bothered to check for yourself, what exactly are the keys to God's kingdom of heaven that were given to Peter/Satan?

Matthew: 16 KJV N.T.
18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
22 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.
23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.

Can the keys to God's kingdom of heaven that were given to Peter/Satan be directly related to being 'converted'? To be converted is to cease being 'the dead' (the spiritually dead) by becoming spiritually aware (i.e. aware of or awakened to, one's own heart/spirit?

Matthew: 13 KJV N.T.
15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

1 Corinthians: 15 KJV N.T.
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

Isn't being 'converted' the same as 'saving of one's spirit' (i.e. saving of one spiritual body)?

If the answer to the above is yes, then the appointment of Peter/Satan is as follows:

1 Corinthians: 5 King James Version (KJV)
5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

Why would one deny that Peter was Satan and his church is Jesus' Satanic church where 'the dead' are sent to become converted (awaken to/aware of their own spirits).

If one does not know the actual Jesus given mission of Peter and his church, how can Peter and his church help any of his church members to cease being 'the dead'.

If Peter does not succeed in saving the spirit of his members, who are only 'the dead', then they are not healed by Jesus. Then, 'the dead shall bury their dead'. That is, those who remain 'the dead' in Peter's church will be buried by their counterparts, inside the earth in hell with a more extreme Satan.

And clearly this is what happens to the followers in Peter church. They accept their plight of being buried inside the earth, in hell with Satan to wait indefinitely for (what is now) a long outstanding, supposed redemption.

Jesus instructed: 'let the dead bury their dead'

Matthew: 8 King James Version (KJV)
22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.

'let the dead bury their dead' is Jesus instruction for those followers, in Peter's church, whose spirits were and are not saved.

Of course those whose spirit are save are healed by Jesus. They become Christians and differs in no way from Jesus Christ (except that he is Lord of all because he is the first to rise to heaven under the Christian system):

1 Corinthians: 15 KJV N.T.
20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.

Galatians: 4 King James Version (KJV)
4 Now I say, That the heir, as long as he is a child, differeth nothing from a servant, though he be lord of all;
2 But is under tutors and governors until the time appointed of the father

Those who become Christians differ in no other way from Jesus Christ. When they die, they rise in three days to be like angels in heaven, clad only in their spirit bodies. They go to the mansion in God's house which Jesus went ahead to prepare for them:

1 Corinthians: 15 KJV N.T.
35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.

John: 14 King James Version (KJV)
2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

Christians are not buried inside the earth in hell with Satan, together with their dead physical bodies, to wait indefinitely for someone or some entity, to come along and save them.

Those whose spirits are save are those who have become aware of and awakened to their own individual spirits (i.e. their spirit body). This means that while they are physically alive on earth they are aware of their own spirit bodies and they can function through their own spirit bodies.

When they die physically they can no longer function through their physical bodies and eventually, at all event, their physical bodies goes dust to dust. Their physical bodies simply biodegrades.

However their spirit bodies survive. And since they became aware of their spirit bodies, while they lived, they retain this awareness when their physically bodies die. Then they are able to rise out of their dead physical bodies, clad only in their spirit bodies.

If while they physically lived they also became Christians, then when they physically die and rise out of their dead physical bodies, clad only in their spirit bodies, Jesus, clad only in His Spirit body, comes to meet and receive them.

Then they rise to spirit heaven with Jesus, in three day, clad only in their spirit bodies, to be like angels in heaven. In three days after physical death, they go to the mansion in God's house which Jesus went ahead to prepare for them.

There are those who rise to spirit heaven in three day after their physical death. These are the chosen few. They are the authentic N.T./spirit and Spirit/follow Jesus/Christian people.

Then there are those who after their physical death, are buried with their dead physical bodies, inside the earth, in hell with Satan for an uncertain, indefinite or possible permanent stay.

Which group do you choose for your self?

Please do not let foolish 'unawares' people teach you Christianity

genuineoriginal
July 20th, 2017, 02:42 PM
14. these newly spiritually aware people have new instructions. They are instructed to covet, so as to serve in the newness of spirit/love.

15. these newly spiritually aware people are instructed to drop and transgress the 'thou shall not covert' commandment, so that they can serve in the newness of spirit/love.
There are ten commandments in the ten commandments.

If we apply your warped "logic" to the other commandments, we get the following:

"spiritually aware people" are instructed to transgress the 'thou shall not kill' and find someone to murder.
"spiritually aware people" are instructed to transgress the 'thou shall not commit adultery' and find someone to cuckold.
"spiritually aware people" are instructed to transgress the 'thou shall not steal' and find someone to rob.
"spiritually aware people" are instructed to transgress the 'thou shall not bear false witness against thy neighbor' and find an innocent person to send to prison by perjury.

You are deceived by your lusts, and are not led by the Spirit of God.

Gurucam
July 20th, 2017, 06:43 PM
1 Corinthians: 5 King James Version (KJV)
5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

The day of the Lord Jesus is your judgment day. This is when Jesus has his day.

Hebrews: 9 King James Version (KJV)
27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

After physical death every one is in the spirit realm. This is where Jesus has his day.

Satan Peter's church is supposed to awaken their charges (who are the dead) to their own spirits, so that they can serve their spirit and soweth to Spirit while the live on earth. Then they can adequately defend themselves in the spirit realm, before Jesus, when they die, physically:

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

Galatians; 6 King James Version (KJV)
7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
9 And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.

The day of the Lord Jesus is when Jesus meets and judges every member of the tribes of Israel, in the spirit realm after each of them physically dies.

Jesus is on his throne of glory in the spirit realm. It is in the spirit realm that Jesus judges the tribes of Israel, immediately after each of their physical death. This is when and where Jesus has his day.

1 Corinthians: 15 KJV N.T.
35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

Jesus' kingdom was not of this physical world. His kingdom is in the spirit realm.

John: 18 King James Version (KJV)
36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.

Jesus had no 'servants'/subjects to fight for him against the Jews, on earth. The Jews had the 'servants'/'subjects'. So they killed Jesus and persecuted Christians:

1 Thessalonians: 2:KJV N.T.
14 For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews:
15 Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men:

However in the spirit realm this is totally reversed. Jesus is very powerful in the spirit realm and most Jews are unaware in the spirit realm. While they live on earth, they esteem, use, invoke and promote the ten commandments which are the laws of sin and spiritual death. When they physically die they are not spiritually aware. They are totally unaware in the spirit realm. They are the dead who bury each other.

Everyone goes to the spirit realm when they physically die. Therefore it is in the spirit realm that Jesus has his day with each person, immediately after his/her physical death.

Since 2000 odd years ago Jesus has been separating every one (after each of their physical death,) into his goats or sheep section and dispatching them accordingly:

Matthew: 25 KJV N.T.
31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

The Jews are in a very sad position. They are unaware in the spirit realm after they physically die. They are simply dragged by their decomposing physical bodies to where ever their physical bodies goes. This is into the depths of earth, in hell with Satan.

Billions are not aware of these facts or do not believe these facts.

Gurucam
July 20th, 2017, 07:31 PM
Jesus would not be concerned about human life on earth when he is prepared to sent people to hell on their judgment day.

Matthew: 10 King James Version (KJV)
34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

Preserving human life is the preoccupation of 'man', this is a thing of man not God.

Matthew: 16 KJV N.T.
23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.

Until God's kingdom of heaven comes to earth, Jesus is concerned about one's spirit life and not one's flesh life. The ten commandments were given to preserve human physical life among the Jews. Moses' preoccupation was with regulating and preserving human physical life.

The focus changed in Jesus' time. Jesus' preoccupation was and continue to be, with preserving the spirit lives of human, even if they loose their physical lives.

Matthew 16:25King James Version (KJV)
25 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.

Mark: 8 King James Version (KJV)
36 For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?

. . . Of what value is 70 to 100 years of physical life on earth compared to one's eternal life?

One should use one's life on earth to earn eternal life and heaven, after one dies.

What ever killeth spiritual life/awareness must be thrown out.

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death

Those who discern wisdom in the ten commandments must uphold those laws, so carry on. I will not engage you.

I am a tutor and governor to aspiring Christians and Christians.

The disciples did not make it to join Jesus on his throne. They all went about their respective righteousness's, leaving aside authentic Christianity:

Matthew: 19 KJV N.T.
28 And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

Romans: 10 KJV N.T.
4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.

Acts: 13 King James Version (KJV)
39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

Matthew: 21 KJV N.T.
43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.

The above says when we were in the flesh, the motion of sin which was by the 'thou shall not covet commandment' did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.

'Fruits onto death' are not 'fruits of God'. Bringing forth fruits onto death will earn one hell, not heaven.

The revelation goes further . . . now we are delivered from the 'thou shall not covet commandment' , that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of that law.

. . we now have justification to transgress the 'thou shall not covet' commandments, because when one esteem, use, invoke and promote that commandment one bring forth only fruits onto death/children of the flesh:

Acts: 13 King James Version (KJV)
39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.

The parents of fruit onto death/children of the flesh and their children, will be cast out of God's kingdom of heaven

Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.

Do not 'mess-with' the ten commandments, they are seriously flawed. They are the laws of sin, falling short of the glory of God, spiritual death and being buried inside the earth, in hell, with Satan.

Hebrews: 8 KJV N.T.
7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.

Romans: 8 King James Version (KJV)
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

Gurucam
July 21st, 2017, 10:48 AM
Only men in the flesh hold the idea that physical life must be protected under an imagined law of God.

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

The above say that when one is in the flesh, one is held under the law, (the thou shall not covet commandment) However when one is newly converted, one must be married to another (covet) so as to serve in the newness of spirit.

John: 1 King James Version (KJV)
17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ

If truth came by Jesus, how can any thing that Moses gave be truth? Especially since the following says that Moses did not use great plainness of speech:

2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
12 Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech:
13 And not as Moses, which put a veil over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:

Spiritually aware people know that life is eternal (i.e. one never actually dies).

Spiritually aware people know that Moses gave those laws simply as laws of the land for people who did not have a land.

The ten commandments were simply a tool, a school master for managing the Jews.

Moses in the law commanded us, that adulterers should be stoned. This is probably, 'the law in the law' that genuineoriginal is speaking about. Any other idea would have to come from an imagination on prohibited steroids

The ten commandments were given by Moses for managing 'the dead' until they become converted and healed by Jesus. No spiritually informed person has any regard for the dead. Even Jesus instructed 'let the dead bury their dead'. The dead are simply beating their own drum and singing their own song.

Today those laws are redundant for 'civilized' people, because in civilized countries there are laws of the land which operate through a far more evolved system:

John 8 King James Version (KJV)
1 Jesus went unto the mount of Olives.
2 And early in the morning he came again into the temple, and all the people came unto him; and he sat down, and taught them.
3 And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst,
4 They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act.
5 Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou?

There are now more just and organized ways for determining 'adultery' and dealing with 'adulterers' instead of stoning one to death.

Seems that it was common and acceptable under Moses law, back then, for some to transgress the ten commandments, by stoning to death, another who had transgressed one of the ten commandments.

Clearly those people believed that Moses gave those laws for their implementation, use and administering, on their own people.

If you guys believe and hold the idea that one has the right to judge and punish another person according to the ten commandments, then, you have to accept that Hitler had that same right to judge and punish Jews (for killing Jesus) by way of the Holocaust. Are you prepared to give onto others what you take for yourself?

Arbitrary judgment and cruel punishment have been replaced by a much more informed and modern justice system, in 'civilized' countries . . . even though at every forum, justice by man, is indeed 'blind' (flawed).

Drop the old and embrace the new. Drop the ten commandments and come up to spirit and Spirit. Come up to betterment.

Hebrews: 8 KJV N.T.
7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.

Jesus has freed humans from that flawed first covenant:

Romans: 8 King James Version (KJV)
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

Gurucam
July 21st, 2017, 02:31 PM
Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

The above say that when one is in the flesh (i.e. when one is 'the dead'), one is held under the law, (the thou shall not covet commandment). However when one is newly converted, one must be married to another one. One must leave one's old spouse/sexual partner and go with a new spouse/different sexual partner.

There are new and different instructions for a (newly) converted person. When one is converted one is no longer held under the 'thou shall not covet' commandments. One is dead to and delivered from that commandment. A newly converted person must covet, so as to serve in the newness of spirit.

You might ask what is the big deal?

The big deal is when you esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the 'thou shall not covet' commandment, you bring forth only fruits on to death. In this case these are children of the flesh, like Ishmael.

On the other hand when you covet so as to serve spirit (your own spirit) you stop bringing forth fruits onto death/children of the flesh and start bringing forth only fruits onto God. In this case these are children of God, like Isaac.

Children of the flesh, their parents and their children will be cast out. They are not heirs to God's kingdom of heaven, together with children of God.

Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.

Luke: 13 King James Version (KJV)
28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.

Is this enough reason for you to become converted and totally drop and transgress the 'thou shall not covet' commandments so as to serve your spirit, freely, liberally and with justification?

Acts: 13 King James Version (KJV)
39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.

Romans: 8 King James Version (KJV)
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

Matthew: 21 KJV N.T.
43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.

Gurucam
July 21st, 2017, 03:07 PM
The path to Christian salvation and deliverance to God's kingdom of heaven in the mansion in God's house which Jesus when ahead to prepare for Christians is as follows:

'The dead' must become 'converted'. That is 'the dead' must become awakened to/aware of, his own heart/spirit.

Then he/she must serve his own spirit while he also simultaneously soweth to the Holy Spirit.

The Spirit of Jesus, as discerned within your own heart/spirit enables you to serve your own spirit in harmony with the Holy Spirit.

All you have to do is become converted so that you can search your own heart to discern precisely what the Spirit of Jesus has in mind for you to know, pray for, say and do. Then be led into all your works, in real time, all the time, by this information and guidance.

And you must transgress the ten commandments in order to do the above. You must transgress the ten commandments in order to serve your own spirit in harmony with the Holy Spirit. That is, you must transgress the ten commandments so as to unconditionally obey precisely what the Spirit of Jesus has in mind for you to know, pray for, say and do, as discerned within your own heart/spirit.

The is how one has faith in and believe Jesus. Any thing else and you are simply bluffing and/or bamboozling Jesus. And he knows the truth.

If you are not freely transgressing the ten commandments so as to serve your spirit, in harmony with the Holy Spirit you are not Christian. You are a make-believe (fake) Christian.

What the Spirit of Jesus has in mind for you to know, pray for, say and do, as discerned within your own heart/spirit is a perfect amalgam of 1. the ideas, beliefs, interests, needs desires and aspirations that are the fabric of each person's own heart/spirit and 2. the will or Spirit of God.

This means that what the Spirit of Jesus has in mind for you to know, pray for, say and do, as discerned within your own heart/spirit is like dna. It is unique for each person. This is individual precise information and guidance from the Spirit of Jesus. One can get this information and guidance only by searching one's own heart/spirit.

This is totally different from generalized information and guidance (like the ten commandments) that are given to 'the dead'. 'The dead' cannot have individualized tailor made information and guidance from the Spirit 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Lord Jesus. The is because 'the dead' cannot search his own heart/spirit because his heart/spirit is waxed gross/covered over. He is not converted. He is not awakened to or aware of his own heart/spirit.

'the dead' must remain under generalized (one size fit all) information and guidance, like the ten commandments until they become converted and access totally individualized and personalize information and guidance from the Spirit of Jesus through their no longer waxed gross' hearts/spirits.

The above is the only path to Christianity and only the Christian life style.

Do not let spiritually dead people feed you nonsense. They could not tell you what I am telling you. They could discern wisdom in, know and delight in, only in the ten commandments. This is the upper limit of their unawareness (their lacking spiritual awareness).

Gurucam
July 21st, 2017, 04:31 PM
Christianity has two anchors:

1. One must serve one's own spirit:

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.

2. one must soweth to the Holy Spirit.

Galatians: 6 King James Version (KJV)
7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.

However in order to do those two things 'the dead' must first become 'converted' and discern the folly that are ten commandments and drop them.

Matthew: 13 KJV N.T.
10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

Only 'converted' people are given by God to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven.

The dead are healed by Jesus, when they cease being the dead and totally drop the ten commandments and become Christians:

Galatians: 3 KJV N.T.
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

Serving your own spirit in harmony with the Holy Spirit is a very intricate thing. This is accomplished by adapting the following:

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
26 Likewise the Spirit(of Jesus) also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit (of Jesus) itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit (of Jesus), because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

1. 'groanings which cannot be uttered' relate directly to things of and in, one's own heart/spirit. This is directly linked to 'serving in the newness of spirit'.

2. 'the will of God' is the Holy Spirit. This is linked directly to 'soweth to Spirit'

The Spirit of Jesus perfectly amalgamates the above two things and comes up with what He has in mind for each Christian/Saint to know, pray for, say and do.

And he that searches his own heart/spirit can come to know precisely what the Spirit of Jesus has in mind for him to know, pray for, say and do.

Of course 'the dead must be converted in order to search and access any thing through his own heart/spirit.

One who can discern within his own heart and materially do, precisely what Spirit of Jesus has in mind for him to know, pray for, say and do, even if he has to transgress the ten commandments, becomes a Saint/Christian.

This is the only path/way to being Christian.

The physical path was put together by the physical, 'seen', earthly, flesh and blood, temporal, son of man Jesus (who is not the Lord in and from heaven).

The actual basis of Christianity is anchored only on the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal Son of God, Jesus Who is the Lord in and from, heaven.

1 Corinthians: 15 KJV N.T.
35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.

Gurucam
July 21st, 2017, 05:17 PM
When humans on earth, serve their own spirits and soweth to Spirit, in perfect harmony, they bring God's kingdom of heaven to the surface of earth.

This is how God's will, as it is in heaven, become done on the surface of earth:

Matthew: 6 King James Version (KJV)
10 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.

This has absolutely nothing to do with the ten commandments. In fact this opposes the ten commandments.

Christianity is totally about having God's will as it is in heaven done on the surface of earth.

Gurucam
July 21st, 2017, 07:58 PM
The kingdom of God is within your heart. How else can God's kingdom come to (expression and materialization) on earth if not when humans serve their own spirits in harmony with the Holy Spirit?

How else can God's will be done on earth?

Luke 17 King James Version (KJV)
20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
26 Likewise the Spirit (of Jesus) also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit (of Jesus) itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit (of Jesus), because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

Gurucam
July 22nd, 2017, 07:13 AM
There are two covenants which relate directly to two different Jerusalems.

One Jerusalem is of earth, i.e. on the surface of earth. This Jerusalem is the preoccupation of the Jews and other people who discern wisdom in, esteem, use, invoke and promote the ten commandments.

The other Jerusalem is in spirit heaven. This Jerusalem is the preoccupation of Christians (the chosen few). These are people who transgress the ten commandments so as to serve their own individual hearts/spirits in harmony with the Holy Spirit.

Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; (1.) the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.
25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.
26 (2.) But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

People under the first covenant bring forth only fruits onto death. These include children of the flesh, like Ishmael.

People under the second bring forth only fruits onto God. This include children of God, like Isaac.

Are you guys still going to say and promote that the 'gospel of circumcision' and the 'gospel of un-circumcision' are the same, as you were corruptly conditioned to believe?

Galatians: 2 KJV N.T.
7 But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter;

Do you guys still foolishly believe that Peter's commission and Paul's commission are the same?

Do you guys still live in foolish-ville with people who are always available to be fooled-up and live to be fooled-up.

CherubRam
July 22nd, 2017, 08:00 AM
Moses laws had to do with the priesthood, the festivals, and the sacrifices. God's laws has to do with the Sabbath and morals.

Which moral command do you think was done away with? Show us the scripture?

Gurucam
July 22nd, 2017, 09:07 AM
Peter got his commission from the physical, 'seen', earthly, flesh and blood, temporal son of man Jesus who is not the Lord from and in heaven.

Paul got his commission from the Spirit, 'not seen', eternal, Son of God Jesus Who is the Lord from and in, heaven:

1 Corinthians: 15 KJV N.T.
35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.

Gurucam
July 22nd, 2017, 09:19 AM
Moses laws had to do with the priesthood, the festivals, and the sacrifices. God's laws has to do with the Sabbath and morals.

Which moral command do you think was done away with? Show us the scripture?

I do not talk or know about any 'moral command'. I never talked about a 'moral command' being done away with. Where is 'moral command' mentioned? Did you make-up that slogan?

Also who is 'us'? If you have a question, you have a question. Who is 'us'?

If you are asking about the 'thou shall not covet commandment', the Holy KJV N.T. says that 'converted' people are 'dead to' and 'deliver from' that commandment so that they can transgress it so as to serve in the newness of spirit.

The above was divinely instructed because, when one obey the above instruction, one stops bring forth children of the flesh (like Ishmael) and starts bringing forth children of God (like Isaac).

At no event, time or place do children of the flesh inherit God's kingdom of heaven, together with children of God.

Isn't the above enough divine reason to covet so as to stops bring forth children of the flesh (like Ishmael) and start bringing forth children of God (like Isaac)?:

Romans:7 KJV N.T.
4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

It is very clear in the above that the law that one is 'dead to' and 'delivered from' is the 'thou shall not covet commandment'.

And the 'thou shall not covet commandment' killeth' (i.e. makes previously spiritually aware people, 'the dead').:

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.

In the above revelation, "the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death" is 'the thou shall not covet commandment'.

The sad fact is that the 'the thou shall not covet commandment', killeth (i.e. makes previously spiritually aware people, 'the dead')

And the other sad and related fact is that 'the dead' bring forth 'the dead'

The 'thou shall not covet commandments' is a further curse because those who esteem, use, invoke and promote it bring forth only fruits on to death/children of the flesh/'the dead' . . . and no fruits onto God/children of God.

Also, the 'thou shall not covet commandments' is a second curse because it killeth (bring spiritual death to) those who esteem, use, invoke and promote it.

For the above reasons the first covenant (the ten commandments) was and continued to be flawed.

And because the first covenant (the ten commandments) was a curse and it was flawed, it was 'done away with' and replaced by a new covenant, that is without the ten commandments.

There is yet another curse attached to the ten commandments:

The 'thou shall not covet commandment' killeth'. That is, the 'thou shall not covet commandment' makes previously spiritually aware people, 'the dead' and this gives rise to a third curse:

'The dead' cannot and do not follow Jesus. And He will not help 'the dead'. Jesus' instruction with respect to 'the dead' is, 'let the dead bury their dead':

Matthew: 8 King James Version (KJV)
22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.

Gurucam
July 22nd, 2017, 10:42 AM
Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.

CherubRam, Here is Christianity 101.

Clearly you were not aware of the following:

In the above revelation, "the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death" is 'the thou shall not covet commandment'.

Also in the above 'I died' is to die spiritually. This is to become 'the dead'.

Jesus had and has no regard for 'the dead'. Jesus instruction to aspiring Christians is, 'follow me and let the dead bury their dead':

Matthew: 8 King James Version (KJV)
22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.

Think not that Jesus came to join together those who follow him and 'the dead'. Jesus came to put a sword of separation between those who follow him and 'the dead'

(those who follow Jesus are Christians. 'the dead' are those who esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments in any way):

Matthew: 10 King James Version (KJV)
34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

A Christian cannot be and is not one who esteem, use, invoke and promote the 'thou shall not covet' commandment because that commandment killeth (makes people 'the dead') and . . . according to Jesus' instruction, 'the dead' are not given to follow him (i.e.Jesus). According to Jesus' instruction, 'the dead' are given to bury each other'

A billion strong traditional Christians are esteeming, using, invoking and/or promoting the 'thou shall not covet' commandment in some way or the other. If per chance, they were not 'the dead' before, by esteeming, using, invoking and/or promoting the 'thou shall not covet' they are killed spiritually. They become 'the dead'.

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.

Clearly a billion strong traditional Christians never took Christianity 101. Instead they took Folly 101. Their professor was a false prophet and/or an unawares false spying brethren who cunningly or other wise, misled and deceived them into believing that Folly 101 is Christianity 101.

How else can this serious predicament (where a billion people are misled and deceived) be explained? . . . and the result is:

Matthew: 22 King James Version (KJV)
14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

Because:

Mark: 12 King James Version (KJV)
24 And Jesus answering said unto them, Do ye not therefore err, because ye know not the scriptures, neither the power of God?

People do not know scriptures because they are deceived by false prophets and unawares false spying brethren (and there are many false prophets and unawares false spying brethren, compared to the chosen few):

Matthew: 24 King James Version (KJV)
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

Matthew: 7 King James Version (KJV)
15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

Galatians: 2 King James Version (KJV)
4 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage:

Clearly there must be millions of false prophets and/or unawares false spying brethren within the core and general leadership of the billion strong traditional Christians . . . all of them boldly, foolishly and self-righteously deceiving the many who innocently come to them seeking truth.

Clearly these false prophets and/or unawares false spying brethren are in a big time feeding frenzy in traditional Christianity, through tithes and offerings. Clearly they are not in any divine or other calling. They are not spiritually actualized. These are the pastors, priests bishops etc who lead and teaches the billion strong traditional Christians.

They are 'the dead' who have been in some way conditioned and trained, intellectually, by more seriously 'spiritually dead leader', with false antichrist doctrines. They are simply doing a job. They are millions of graduates sent forth to cunningly, covertly and 'any which way' recruit followers for the antichrist, from among innocent and unsuspecting aspiring Christians.

These millions of priests, pastors bishops etc. in the billion strong traditional Christianity are constructively returning their charges to esteeming, using, invoking and promoting the 'thou shall not covet commandment.

The simply fact is that 'the thou shall not covet commandments' which was ordained to life, was found to be unto death:

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death

By doing the above, these millions of priests, pastors bishops etc. of traditional Christianity are keeping their charges as 'the dead' or converting their charges to being 'the dead'. And fooling their charges into believing that they are following Jesus.

The above is the very sad and seriously bad state of the billion strong traditional Christians.

. . . of course some priests, pastors bishops etc. are doing this job unwittingly. They are simply foolish but self-righteous. However, do not be deceived, this does not change the out come for these priests, pastors bishops etc. or their charges. God is not mocked.

Galatians: 6 King James Version (KJV)
7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.

Those who embrace, esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the 'thou shall not covet commandment' are kept 'the dead' or made 'the dead'. This commandment simply killeth spiritual awareness.

'The dead' means dead to one's own spirit or not converted. This means that 'the dead' are only in the flesh. They are aware of only their flesh/physical side. They are dead to their spirit side.

This means that those who embrace, esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the 'thou shall not covet commandment', in any way, are 'the dead' and they can soweth only to flesh and reap corruption.

Those who embrace, esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the 'thou shall not covet commandment', in any way cannot be and are not those who soweth to Spirit and real eternal life.

The 'thou shall not covet commandment' is a very serious and terminal curse in very many ways. It is totally done away with for those who are converted and onto Christ. This is the message in:

Galatians: 3 KJV N.T.
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

The ten commandments were intact until Jesus came, then it was totally done-away-with for those who became converted and healed by Jesus:

Matthew: 13 KJV N.T.
15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

The ten commandments remained intact for 'the dead'. 'The dead' are those who were not converted and did not seek conversion.

At any event and all events, the ten commandments remained a one way passage to sin, falling short of the glory of God, spiritual death and burial inside the earth, in hell, with Satan.

The above is the Christian position.

CherubRam
July 22nd, 2017, 12:54 PM
Paul preached to the Gentiles who did not have the written law, but who were keeping it anyway.

Romans 2:14
For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:

So what is the bottom line of what Paul is preaching? It is this:

Romans 3:31
Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

A grace period was given to the Gentiles who did not have the written law. Most importantly is what Christ says about the law:

Matthew 5:17
“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.



Joshua copied the laws of Moses onto stone also.

Joshua 8:32
There, in the presence of the Israelites, Joshua copied on stones the law of Moses, which he had written.

2 Corinthians 3:7
[ The Glory of the New Covenant ] Now if the ministry that brought death, which was engraved in letters on stone, came with glory, so that the Israelites could not look steadily at the face of Moses because of its glory, fading though it was,…


In regards to "Ministry of The Spirit." What that means is that you keep God's commandments, not because they are written in stone and are law, but because they are written in your heart; and you keep them for the love of God and your fellow man - because it is the right thing to do. "The ministry that brought death" is the Mosaic laws of the priesthood, not God's commandments.

2 Corinthians 3:3
You show that you are a letter from Christ, the result of our ministry, written not with ink but with the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of human hearts.

2 Corinthians 3:8
will not the ministry of the Spirit be even more glorious?


Deuteronomy 31:26
Take this book of the law, and put it in the side of the ark of the covenant of the LORD your God, that it may be there for a witness against thee. Not the commandments written in stone. There are two sets of laws, God's commandment laws, and the priestly Levitical law.

Romans 10:4
Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB)
4 For Christ is the end[a] of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.

Footnotes: a. Romans 10:4 Or goal

Matthew 5:17 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+5:17&version=NIV1984)
“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.


The commandments and good works have not been done away with. All Paul is getting at is that you cannot buy your way into heaven just by keeping the commandments and good works. Evil people can keep the law and do good works. Such people have even been known to hide among us.

Matthew 5:18
For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Ephesians 2:10
For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.

Ephesians 4:12
to equip his people for works of service, so that the body of Christ may be built up

Romans 3:31
Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law. (Written in regards to the commandments.)

Romans 6:15
What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid. (Written in regards to the Mosaic laws.)

Romans 7:7
What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet. (Written in regards to the commandments.)


Matthew 5:19
Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of the commandments and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches the commandments will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

When Christ or the disciples spoke against the laws, they were speaking of the Levitical laws of the priesthood. The priesthood laws are what also governed the festivals, offerings, and sacrifices. Christ and the disciples always spoke favorably of God's commandment laws.

Gurucam
July 23rd, 2017, 04:23 PM
CherubRam,

If you discern wisdom in the ten commandments, even in the slightest manner you are obliged to uphold all the ten commandments perfectly.

Apparently you discern wisdom in the ten commandments, so carry on. Fulfill your obligation.

No one can deny you that right.

I will not engage you.

However, I would suggest that you do not use scriptures willy-nilly.

The Holy KJV N.T. instructs those who are 'the dead' to become 'converted', drop and transgress the ten commandments so as to serve their own individual spirit in harmony with the Holy Spirit.

Also the Holy KJV N.T. say that the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven will not be found in any thing before 2000 odd years ago, i.e., before the advent of Jesus physically on earth.

The mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven will not be found in the Old Testament or in ten commandments, etc..

Also these mysteries will not be found every where in the Holy KJV N.T.. The mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven will be found only in those deliveries which Jesus made privately to only the disciples. And this is directly related and linked, to being 'converted' and healed by Jesus:

Colossians 1 King James Version (KJV)
26 Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints:

Matthew: 13 KJV N.T.
10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

You cannot go to or inherit, God's kingdom of heaven if you are not given to know and do not know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven.

And you cannot be given to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven if you are not converted and drop and transgress the ten commandments so as to serve your own spirit in harmony of the Holy Spirit.

Jesus heals one by enabling one to serve one's own spirit in perfect harmony with the Holy Spirit, by operating through His (Jesus') Spirit as discerned through one's own heart/spirit.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
26 Likewise the Spirit (of Jesus) also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit (of Jesus), because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

CherubRam, you are corrupting Christianity.

CherubRam
July 23rd, 2017, 06:01 PM
CherubRam,

If you discern wisdom in the ten commandments, even in the slightest manner you are obliged to uphold all the ten commandments perfectly.

Apparently you discern wisdom in the ten commandments, so carry on. Fulfill your obligation.

No one can deny you that right.

I will not engage you.

However, I would suggest that you do not use scriptures willy-nilly.

The Holy KJV N.T. instructs those who are 'the dead' to become 'converted', drop and transgress the ten commandments so as to serve their own individual spirit in harmony with the Holy Spirit.

Also the Holy KJV N.T. say that the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven will not be found in any thing before 2000 odd years ago, i.e., before the advent of Jesus physically on earth.

The mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven will not be found in the Old Testament or in ten commandments, etc..

Also these mysteries will not be found every where in the Holy KJV N.T.. The mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven will be found only in those deliveries which Jesus made privately to only the disciples. And this is directly related and linked, to being 'converted' and healed by Jesus:

Colossians 1 King James Version (KJV)
26 Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints:

Matthew: 13 KJV N.T.
10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

You cannot go to or inherit, God's kingdom of heaven if you are not given to know and do not know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven.

And you cannot be given to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven if you are not converted and drop and transgress the ten commandments so as to serve your own spirit in harmony of the Holy Spirit.

Jesus heals one by enabling one to serve one's own spirit in perfect harmony with the Holy Spirit, by operating through His (Jesus') Spirit as discerned through one's own heart/spirit.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
26 Likewise the Spirit (of Jesus) also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit (of Jesus), because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

CherubRam, you are corrupting Christianity.

You are making things up as you go. A person is obligated in keeping the whole law if they are circumcised according to the Old Covenant. PS. There is covenant and non-covenant circumcisions. Under the New Covenant we are obligated to keep only the Sabbath and moral commands of God.

Gurucam
July 24th, 2017, 06:18 AM
Moses laws had to do with the priesthood, the festivals, and the sacrifices. God's laws has to do with the Sabbath and morals.

Which moral command do you think was done away with? Show us the scripture?

You have made-up the above. And you are pretending that those are Christian things. If those things are supported by revelations in the Holy KJV N.T., please provide the clear revelations in the Holy KJV N.T. that say the above . . . i.e. without providing your or anyone else, 'interpretations'.

. . . you dare accuse others of making-up things. All your ideas (offered so far) are your own righteousness and not the righteousness of God as confirmed and defined in the Holy KJV N.T.. You are simply making-up things to suit your fancy and comfort and claiming that they are from scriptures.

You are the worse . . . you are a serious danger to aspiring Christians who are trying to be the chosen few.

Matthew 7:3-5King James Version (KJV)
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

Do you have a sexual and/or procreating mate trapped in a spiritless/loveless union with you, by you invoking the 'thou shall not covet commandment' on your mate?

If you justify sex and sexual procreation by esteeming, using, invoking and promoting the 'thou shall not covet' commandment, your sexual act is spiritless/loveless. It is purely of the flesh and at all events, you bring forth only children of the flesh and no children of God.

At all events the above is precisely and literally what the following says:

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

The the law mentioned above is about marriage, sexual procreation, children and the 'thou shall not covet commandments'. It has nothing to do with 'the priesthood, the festivals, and the sacrifices, as you are trying to suggest and 'sell', as a false prophet who came in Jesus' name.

The law in the revelation above is the 'thou shall not covet' commandments. The revelation above says that one who can serve in the newness of spirit (a converted person) is dead to' an 'delivered from' the 'thou shall not covet commandment' so that he/she can covet so as to serve in the newness of spirit.

You have been fooled-up all your life and this keeps or makes you 'the dead' and dead to truth.

You would obviously try to distort the above revelation, especially if you have off-springs . . . because, obviously, those would have been bought forth under the 'thou shall not covet', flesh management commandment.

. . . you must hate the Holy KJV N.T. simply because it brought or has, truth. This was also Paul's predicament:

Galatians: 4 King James Version (KJV)
5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.
6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.
5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.
6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.
19 My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you,
16 Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?
20 I desire to be present with you now, and to change my voice; for I stand in doubt of you.
21 Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law?
22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.
23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.

Those two boys were born under two different covenants as follows:

Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; (1.) the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.
25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.
26 (2.) But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

Only children of the flesh are born to parents who esteem, use, invoke and promote the covenant from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar. For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.

Only children of promise/children of Spirit/children of God are born to parents who esteem, use, invoke and promote the covenant related to Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

Can there be any doubt that the first covenant is the thou shall not covet commandments.

Can there be any doubt that the second covenant is the 'transgress the first covenant, so as to serve your own spirit/love in harmony with the Holy Spirit. And so be delivered into the mansion in God's house which Jesus went ahead to prepare for Christians:

John: 14 King James Version (KJV)
2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

Moses made no such provision for his followers. In fact before the advent of Jesus, the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven were not known to those people.

. . . do not be a bold, self-righteous, big time false prophet who came, falsely, in the name of Christianity . . . so as to deceive innocent aspiring Christians who are simply seeking truth so they will not err and be among the chosen few. .

Gurucam
July 24th, 2017, 11:51 AM
CherubRam . . you must hate the Holy KJV N.T. simply because it brought or has, truth and Moses and the O/T. did not bring truth and does not have truth.

John 1 King James Version
17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ

The following is very plain, simple and straightforward:

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

The topic and the law mentioned above are marriage, sexual procreation, children and the 'thou shall not covet commandment'.

In the above, the topic and law have nothing to do with 'the priesthood, the festivals, and the sacrifices, as you are trying to suggest and 'sell', as a false prophet who came in Jesus' name.

In the above revelation, the law is plainly and precisely, one of the ten commandments, i.e. the 'thou shall not covet' commandments. And it is 'done away with' for those who can serve in the newness of spirit.

Indeed, the law in the revelation above is the 'thou shall not covet' commandments. The revelation is saying the 'thou shall not covet commandment' is 'done away with' for those who can serve in the newness of Spirit.

One who can serve in the newness of spirit is a newly converted person:

Matthew: 13 KJV N.T.
15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

The revelation (Romans: 7 verses: 4 to 7) above says that one who can serve in the newness of spirit (a converted person) is 'dead to' and 'delivered from' the 'thou shall not covet commandment' so that he/she can covet so as to serve in the newness of spirit.

You have been fooled-up all your life and this keeps or makes you 'the dead' and dead to truth:

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death

The commandment in the above is the 'thou shall not covet' commandments. Those who esteem, use, invoke and promote that commandment dies spiritually. They become 'the dead'. Jesus' instruction to aspiring Christians is, follow me and 'let the dead bury their dead'.

The typical traditional Christian do not know the above. They are simply foolish, blind followers of false prophets and unawares false spying brethren. However you are different, you posture like a know-it-all and you are just as foolish or even more foolish.

You have been fooled into believing that the 'thou shall not covet' is a law from God. It is not. It was simply given by Moses for temporal use by the dead, until they become converted and are given to know truth. Then they can, must and will throw out and transgress that commandment, so as to serve in the newness of spirit.

Moses lied by omission and fooled-up the Jews about the ten commandments. Moses did not deliver or bring truth:

2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
12 Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech:
13 And not as Moses, which put a veil over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:

You would obviously try to distort the above revelation, especially if you have off-springs . . . because, obviously, those would have been bought forth under the 'thou shall not covet', flesh management commandment. And according to the Holy KJV N.T., they would obviously be children of the flesh and not children of God.

Your defensiveness strongly suggest that you were brought forth by parents who esteemed, used, invoked and promoted the thou shall not covet commandment. According to the Holy KJV N.T. you would be a child of the flesh and not a child of God.

Cheruby . . . you must hate the Holy KJV N.T. simply because it brought or has, truth.

Do not corrupt and distort the Holy KJV N.T.. If you do you will enjoys a false sense of security while you live. However when you die you will experience the serious wrath of Jesus.

You must ask your self, where was the 'god' of the Jews when the holocaust befell them. Was Hitler more powerful than their god. Or did their god simply looked the other way? If you promote the ten commandments as a 'Christian thing', you may escape on earth, however you may have to face your own individual holocaust in the spirit realm, in Jesus' kingdom, when you die.

Your failure to discern and know that those who esteem, use, invoke and promote the 'thou shall not covet' commandments are 'the dead' is very serious. This is your folly but not forgivable:

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death

'The dead' are not given to follow Jesus. They cannot be and are not Christians.

The above says that esteeming, using, invoking and/or promoting the 'thou shall not covet' commandments makes one 'the dead' and destroys any possibility of one becoming a Christian.

The dead cannot follow Jesus:

Matthew: 8 King James Version (KJV)
22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.

The following further supports the fact that the law, the ten commandments makes Christ of no effect to one and removes one from or denies one, grace:

Galatians: 5 King James Version (KJV)
1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
2 Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.
3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.
4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.

Of course in spite of the fact that the use of the 'thou shall not covert commandments makes one 'the dead', this would not stop corrupt CherubRam. He will try to sell you the false idea that 'the whole law', that one is circumcised under, (in the above) is not the ten commandments.

He will try to deceive you into believing that 'the whole law' of circumcision, is Moses laws that had to do with the priesthood, the festivals, and the sacrifices. And not what he called God's law (i.e. the ten commandments.)

What indeed is the whole law of circumcision, if it is not the whole law or the whole ten commandments?

Do not buy foolishness.

Beware of CherubRam, he is clearly a false prophet who came in Jesus name. He is simply (wittingly or unwittingly) serving the Jewish agenda, which is to undermine and destroy Jesus and Christianity.

1 Thessalonians: 2 KJV N.T.
For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews:
15 Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men:

The Jews of old, killed Jesus and persecuted Christians because Jesus did away with the ten commandments for Christians.

CherubRam is continuing the old Jewish agenda. He is operating like an unaware, false brethren, i.e., as a spy among unsuspecting aspiring Christians.

This is very serious . . . because many (at least a billion) are called but few are chosen. The very great multitudes err and do not make it because they are deceived by false prophets and unawares false spying brethren . . . the likes of CherubRam.

Matthew: 22 King James Version (KJV)
14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

Matthew: 24 King James Version (KJV)
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

Galatians: 2 King James Version (KJV)
4 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage: (under the ten commandments).

. . . as smooth and cold as ice-cream you have the worse (i.e. 'the dead') among you and you naively and foolishly believe that they are good. I speak of the likes of CherubRam.

Gurucam
July 25th, 2017, 05:31 AM
1 Thessalonians: 2 KJV N.T.
For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews:
15 Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men:

The Jews of old, killed Jesus and persecuted Christians because Jesus did away with the ten commandments for 'converted' people who can and do, serve in the newness of spirit (i.e. Christians).

The ten commandments were the anchor of empowerment, of the Jewish rulers, back then.

Jesus' teaching (i.e. new covenant) is empowerment through spirit and Spirit. This is anchored on righteousness of God that is without the ten commandments.

The introduction of Jesus' new covenant would empower new different and ordinary people and totally dilute the old traditional leaders and their power. This continue to be so.

Because of the above, the O.T., old Jewish leaders and their (essentially blind) supporters killed Jesus and went on to persecute Christians.

The above is the symptoms of 'the dead' (i.e. those with hearts that are 'waxed gross'). They are describes as not 'converted'. CherubRam is of like kind. He is not 'converted'. He is sill 'the dead'

CherubRam is continuing the old Jewish agenda. He is operating like an unaware, false brethren, i.e., as a spy among unsuspecting aspiring Christians.

He seeks to keep aspiring Christians in bondage under the ten commandments or to return Christians to bondage under the ten commandments . . . and so deny them or remove them from, grace and Christ.

Galatians: 2 King James Version (KJV)
4 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage: (under the ten commandments).

Galatians: 5 King James Version (KJV)
1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
2 Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.
3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.
4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.

. . . as smooth and cold as ice-cream you have the worse (i.e. 'the dead') among you and you naively and foolishly believe that they are good. I speak of the likes of CherubRam.

Imagine, people who are foolish like CherubRam, comprise the millions of priests, bishops, pastors, etc., within the core of the billion strong traditional Christians.

Can you still doubt that traditional Christianity needs a serious and urgent 'bail-out'/rescue?

A billion strong traditional Christians are corruptly in the strong grip of 'the dead' who keep them in bondage under the ten commandments. 'The dead' discern wisdom in, esteem, use, invoke and promote the ten commandments. 'The dead' deny aspiring Christians, their God given freedom, liberty, justification and instructions to transgress the ten commandments, so as to serve their own spirits in harmony with the Holy Spirit.

CherubRam said: "Show us the scripture?"

I ask, who is 'us'? Who are these people who are represented by CherubRam?

Is it not more appropriate and humble for him to ask, 'show me the scriptures'.

I have shown him Romans: 7 verses: 4 to 7 which say that one is 'dead to' and 'delivered from' the 'thou shall not covet commandment', so that one can covet, so as to serve in the newness of spirit. And so stop bringing forth children of the flesh (like Ishmael) and start bringing forth children of God (like Issac).

Look out for further corrupt (lemon used car sales person's) rhetoric and antics from CherubRam, as he tries to corrupt the above revelations which do not suit his Antichrist and pro-Jewish/Mosaic agenda.

Jesus agenda is to separate genuine aspiring Christians and Christians from the likes of CherubRam and their Antichrist and pro-Jewish/Mosaic agenda:

Matthew: 10 King James Version (KJV)
34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

There are those in one's own family who self-righteously esteem, use, invoke and promote the 'thou shall not covet commandments and believe that they are the best thing since 'sliced bread'. They are not. They are 'the dead'.

They are the unbelievers who must depart the company of believers:

1 Corinthians: 7 KJV N.T.
15 But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace.

Acts: 13 King James Version (KJV)
39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.

An unbelieving is one who is still 'the dead' and (therefore) discern wisdom in, esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the 'thou shall not covet commandment'. The unbelieving are those who do not accept and embrace their God given justification to do the thing that were not justified by the ten commandments.

Jesus totally ignores the unbeliever who continue to esteem, use, invoke and promote the thou shall not covet commandment. They were killed spiritually by esteeming, using, invoking and promoting the ten commandments.

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death

Therefore when those who esteem, use, invoke and promote the ten commandments, physically die, they would have no spirit signature. They would have no awareness/presence in the spirit realm. They were 'the dead' whiles they physically lived on earth and they will continue to be 'the dead' (the spiritually dead) when they die physically.

Jesus' attitude toward 'the dead is 'let the dead bury their dead'.

Jesus ignores 'the dead'. After physical death, the spiritually dead remain dead within their dead physical body and goes where their dead physical bodies take them.

On the other hand, Jesus embraces those (the spiritually awakened/aware) who transgress the 'thou shall not covet' commandment, so as to serve their spirit.

Those who esteem, use, invoke and promote the 'thou shall not covet commandment' do not seem to realize that they are 'the dead' who will inevitably be buried inside the earth, in hell, with Satan. . . . they are simply foolish people who are called and not chosen:

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death

The 'thou shall not covet commandment' is simply total spiritual death to those who esteem, use, invoke and promote that commandment.

Many have died under that foolish and very unfortunate idea of esteeming, using invoking and promoting the ten commandments while they lived physically. They have gone an unfortunate way. You do not have to follow.

It is time for you, my genuine readers, to awaken to truth.

Gurucam
July 25th, 2017, 03:09 PM
The beauty of Christianity must be loudly announced and totally embraced.

For everyone who can, Christianity is anchored on God given freedom, liberty, justification and instruction, to unconditionally express and/or fulfill the ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirations in one's own heart/spirit in harmony with the Holy Spirit.

Christianity is the art and science where by one brings one's kingdom of heaven that is held in latency/potentiality in one's own individual heart/spirit to perfect, harmonious and full blown expression and materialization on earth, (which is God's creation,) with absolutely no barriers.

The Spirit of Jesus makes this 'magically' possible.

He who can and do search his own heart/spirit and discern and be led unconditionally by, precisely what the Spirit of Jesus has in mind for him to know, pray for, say and do, even if he has to transgress all ideals and laws, including the ten commandments achieve the following:

He magically expresses and materializes the ideas, beliefs, interests, needs desires and aspirations of his own heart/spirit in perfect harmony with the will of God, with no limits.

The above is how one serves one's own spirit while one soweth to Spirit. This is the entire whole kit and caboodle:

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.

Galatians: 6 King James Version (KJV)
7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
9 And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.

The above is Christianity. Christianity is absolutely not the ideas and beliefs that are held and promoted by the billion strong traditional Christians

To esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments soweth to being 'the dead' who can soweth only to flesh. 'The dead' are people in the flesh.

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death

Tons of motivational speakers present their techniques for achieving your dreams. And indeed some of these techniques do work.

However very few (if any) can tell you how to achieve your most serious dream (which is the fabric of your heart/spirit). And even fewer can show you how to achieve this in perfect harmony with the Will or Spirit of God and so secure your place in heaven after you physically die.

Lots of people achieve different level of 'supposed' heaven on earth. However few secure their place in God's kingdom of heaven, after physical death.

Christianity offer one the opportunity to live in heaven on earth whiles one physically live here and also to live in God's kingdom of heaven, in the spirit realm when one dies, physically. (Obviously traditional Christianity offers and achieve none of this for their charges)

This is anchored on serving one's spirit while one soweth to Spirit, in perfect harmony.

Lots of successful people serve their spirit but do not soweth to Spirit. (An example is, lots of people enjoy a very materially heavenly life whiles destroying the inherent integrity of God's creation)

Most motivational speakers talk about serving one's spirit but have no clue and offer no clue about soweth-ing to Spirit. Also they have no clue and offers no clue about how this can be achieved.

Gurucam
July 27th, 2017, 04:16 AM
By nature the ten commandments killeth (spiritually kills one), i.e. it keeps and/or makes one 'the dead'.

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death

Jesus' attitude and agenda for the 'the dead' was and continue to be as follows:

Matthew: 8 King James Version (KJV)
22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.

The fact that the ten commandments killeth spiritual awareness and so makes one 'the dead' is a fatal and seriously terminal curse/flaw of the ten commandment:

Hebrews: 8 KJV N.T.
7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.

Some will say "Paul taught the ten commandments".

Indeed, the ten commandments were not done away with for those who wanted to continue to esteem, use, invoke and promote the ten commandments. These people were 'the dead who wanted to remain 'the dead'. They were adamant and they even denied, persecute, torture and eventually killed Jesus and persecuted Christians (i.e. those who actually abandon the ten commandments and followed Jesus).

Jesus' attitude toward those who wanted to continue or start to, esteem, use, invoke and promote the ten commandments and so stay or become, 'the dead' was to and continue to be, 'let the dead bury their dead'

To others who Paul perceived to be ready to drop the ten commandments and follow Jesus, Paul said:

Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.
6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.
7 Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ.
11 I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labour in vain.
13 Ye know how through infirmity of the flesh I preached the gospel (i.e the first gospel, the O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments gospel) unto you at the first.
14 And my temptation which was in my flesh ye despised not, nor rejected; but received me as an angel of God, even as Christ Jesus.
19 My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you,
20 I desire to be present with you now, and to change my voice (to now teach the N.T./Spirit and Spirit/Jesus/Christian gospel); for I stand in doubt of you.
16 Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?
21 Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the (curse/flaw of) law?

All that Jesus could do, back then, is to indicate that the ten commandments keeps and/or makes one 'the dead' and instruct those who follow him to 'let the dead bury their dead' (i.e. ignore those who do not care to know truth . . . and let them destroy each other).

Jesus came to put a sword of separation between 'the dead' (i.e. those who discern wisdom in, esteem, use, invoke and promote the ten commandments) and Christians (i.e. those who transgress the ten commandment so as to serve their own spirit and soweth to Spirit in perfect harmony).

Matthew: 8 King James Version (KJV)
22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.

Matthew: 10 King James Version (KJV)
34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

2000 odd yeas ago Jesus had little power on earth among those (essentially wicked) people, who he came among. However Jesus has very great power in the spirit realm, where he sits on the throne of his glory. It is there, when these and other wicked people physically die, they go and receive the wrath of Jesus.

Wicked people are those who, whiles they lived on earth, denied, persecuted, tortured, killed and/or desecrated Jesus and his authentic Christian teachings. And who also (self-righteously) did the same to authentic Christians who, teach about transgressing and actually transgress, the ten commandment, so as to serve spirit and Spirit. It does not matter that one did this wittingly or unwittingly. Only one actions (what one soweth) counts.

Jesus will have his day, with everyone when they physically dies and find themselves in the spirit realm where Jesus is Lord.

:idea: Fact is Moses simply gave the ten commandments. He did not bring truth and grace. Truth and grace came with Jesus.

John 1 King James Version
17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

Moses did not bring truth or grace. Moses lied by omission when he did not tell the Jews that the ten commandment were given by him for temporal use (i.e. the ten commandments must eventually be 'done away with' when they (the Jews and others) cease being the 'the dead' and became converted and healed by Jesus:

2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
12 Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech:
13 And not as Moses, which put a veil over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:

Truth is as follows and it is very plain, simple and straightforward. Look the ten commandment is abolished, i.e. 'done away with':

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; . . .
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

The above says one is 'dead to' and delivered from' the 'thou shall not covet' commandment, so as to serve in the newness of spirit.. This does not apply to 'the dead'. This revelation applies to those who can serve in the newness of spirit. They are 'the dead' who have recently been 'converted' to spiritual awareness.

'The dead' are simply not given by God to follow Jesus, to know/get the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven and therefore to be Christians. They were violent and unruly people and so, they were given parables to appease and fool them into keeping the peace. When they die they cannot follow Jesus to God's kingdom of heaven in the spirit realm i.e. into the mansion in God's house which Jesus went ahead to prepare for his followers.

'The dead' are those people who are not converted and healed by Jesus:

Matthew: 13 KJV N.T.
10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:
15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

'The dead' are those people who discern wisdom in, esteem, use, invoke and promote the ten commandments. They remain 'the dead' and always fall short of the glory of God. When they die they are buried, by their peers, inside the earth, in hell, with Satan. They cannot and do not follow Jesus and rise to spirit heaven in three day after they die (as the chosen few authentic Christians do).

Do you still delight in the ten commandments? Are you going to let the Jews and similar others bring you under bondage of the ten commandments and deny you grace, truth and Christ?

Galatians: 5 King James Version (KJV)
1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
2 Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.
3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.
4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.

If while you live you discern wisdom in, esteem, use, invoke and promote the ten commandments you are one among the Antichrist. This is so because the ten commandments keep and/or makes one 'the dead' who cannot follow Jesus.

If while you live you discern wisdom in, esteem, use, invoke and promote the ten commandments you are actively doing what the Jews who killed and persecuted Jesus did. Jesus will have his day when you die. When you die you will be left to fall through the cracks. You will be left to be dragged by your decomposing dead physical body into the depths of earth, in hell, with Satan.

A billion strong tradition Christians commonly and routinely desecrate Christianity. They feel comfortable because they are billion strong and they are all more or less holding and promoting the same corruption of Christianity.

In the name of Christianity, they are falsely condemning spirit and Spirit so as to promote the ten commandments. They are simply pretending to be Christians.

This is simply wickedness. This is simply the ideas and vision of the 'the dead' (i.e. people of the flesh). They are rulers of darkness of the world. They are against spirituality. Up to very recently they were the principalities and powers of the surface of the earth. Their time has ended. Spirituality and the Spirit of Jesus now dominates and rules on the surface of earth.

Ephesians 6 King James Version (KJV)
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

'we wrestle not against flesh and blood' conveys that it not a physical battle with nuclear and other weapons and/or physically killing of people. It is not about surviving natural disasters on earth though arks like Noah's, etc.. It is a war of ideologies, ideas and spirit.

It is a war between the old flesh/ten commandments for 'the dead' ideologies and ideas of Moses . . . and Jesus' New spirit and Spirit/Christian ideologies and ideas that is totally without the O.T. and the ten commandments.

The wrestling is over. You either get on board or be banished to another place, that is more suited to your spiritual dead-ness.

The rule of the old as in O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments (and all who subscribed to that old ideology) is totally done, on the surface of earth.

The rule of the N.T./Jesus/spirit and Spirit/Christianity (and all who can and do subscribe this new ideology) is at hand, on the surface of earth.

. . . how many of you guys are helped by these posts? You have to give praise where it is due. This is one way to honor Jesus . . . because . . . all that I post are the literal truth in the Holy KJV N.T. (nothing added, nothing taken away . . . nothing of my own)

I am simply a servant who seeks to offer nothing more than exactly what the Lord Jesus, offered and continue to offer. I am here to purify the corrupt foolishness that passed for Christianity for the past years, now in the fullness of time.

I am not here to interpret, alter, rewrite or introduce new ideas to, original Jesus Christ Christianity. Also, I am not here to leave out or take away, anything from original Jesus Christ Christianity.

Gurucam
July 27th, 2017, 08:51 AM
The sad truth is that those who interpret, alter, rewrite, improve and/or introduce new ideas to, original Jesus Christ Christianity and also leave out or take away, anything from original Jesus Christ Christianity are seriously jeopardized.

They have rush in where wise people fear to thread.

Jesus is not at all concerned with or responsible for those who follow these people who teach their own ideas and interpretations. These people who teach their own ideas and interpretations are now totally responsible for their charges.

Jesus is responsible only for those who teaches and/or practices authentic Christianity. From among billions who are called these are the chosen few. The very great masses are into different distortions and misinterpretations of the Holy KJV N.T.

Mark: 12 King James Version (KJV)
24 And Jesus answering said unto them, Do ye not therefore err, because ye know not the scriptures, neither the power of God?

Matthew: 24 King James Version (KJV)
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

Matthew: 22 King James Version (KJV)
14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

If the ideas of those who routinely or other wise, interpret, alter, rewrite, improve and/or introduce new ideas to, the original Jesus Christ Christianity are folly (and it always is), they are in big trouble. Their charges will sin and fall short of the glory of God and these people who teach their own ideas and interpretations will be answerable for their own sins, the sin of misguiding their charges and the sins of their charges.

The path to protecting one self from being responsible for other people's sin and falling short of the glory of God is to be ego-less. It is to be like a child. It is simply to deliver the teachings and ideas of Jesus, as literally as presented. It is simply to add nothing and take away nothing. It is simply to totally avoid one's own or anyone else interpretations.

By using the above approach, Jesus and the the writers of the Holy KJV N.T. are totally answerable and responsible for those who one teaches . . . and Original authentic Christianity is transmitted in purity.

Fact is, unlike the O.T. and unlike other versions of the New Testament, the Holy KJV N.T. is totally inspired and authentically contains, Jesus' Original Christianity.

. . . thread carefully. Even unwitting corruption of Christianity is serious and not forgivable. It is a serious sin against Jesus.

And Jesus will have his revenge on those who unwittingly or unwittingly corrupt authentic Christianity. He will have this revenge as the Spirit of Jesus who is totally impersonal and therefore not at all, bribe-able. This will occure in the spirit realm, immediately after each person dies.

It is solo judgment which each person faces. It is based on how and to what one soweth to while one lived on earth.

Indeed, Jesus will get his revenge against those who corrupt/desecrate his Christianity whether wittingly or unwittingly. There is no difference. Jesus will get his revenge, in the spirit realm, according to exactly what one did on earth. This occurs immediately after each person from this tradition, physically die.

People who desecrate/corrupt Christianity are self-appointed and/or self-righteous ' know it all', foolish people who are 'the dead'.

Gurucam
July 28th, 2017, 06:07 AM
The sad truth is that those who interpret, alter, rewrite, improve and/or introduce new ideas to, original Jesus Christ Christianity and also leave out or take away, anything from original Jesus Christ Christianity are seriously jeopardized.

It is so much worse if such people promote their interpretations, alterations, 'improvements' and/or new ideas of original Jesus Christ Christianity as Christianity.

Clearly these people have gone about their own righteousness leaving aside authentic, original Jesus Christ Christianity. And by promoting their ideas as Christianity they are simply false prophets who came in Jesus' name and/or unawares, false spying brethren among innocent and unsuspecting aspiring Christian . . . and they are deceiving many:

Matthew: 22 King James Version (KJV)
14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

Matthew: 24 King James Version (KJV)
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

Galatians: 2 King James Version (KJV)
4 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage: (under the ten commandments).

This corruption of authentic, original Jesus Christ Christianity has been institutionalized on earth (among the billion strong traditional Christians).

The billion strong traditional Christians are not the chosen few.

The chosen few are the authentic Christians and they wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places:

Ephesians 6 King James Version (KJV)
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

The billion strong traditional Christians deny 'converted' humans, their God given freedom, liberty, justification and instructions to transgress the ten commandments so as to serve their own individual spirits while, simultaneously, soweth-ing to Spirit.

The billion strong traditional Christians deny the above in favor of soweth-ing to the flesh/ten commandments which reduces one to being 'the dead'.

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.

Galatians: 6 King James Version (KJV)
7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
9 And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.

Serving one's own spirit while simultaneously soweth-ing to Spirit are the fundamental of Christianity. This critical information is the subject of the next post.

Gurucam
July 28th, 2017, 10:35 AM
Serving one's own spirit while simultaneously soweth-ing to Spirit are the only two fundamentals of Christianity.

Christianity is about Jesus. Since 2000 odd years ago, Jesus is the Spirit of Jesus and the Spirit of Jesus is totally about serving one's own spirit while soweth-ing to Spirit.

There are two clear instructions, as follows:

The first one:

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death

In the above one who can serve in the newness of spirit (this is a newly converted person) is informed that he/she is 'dead to' and 'delivered from' the 'thou shall not covet' commandment and instructed to transgress this commandment so as to serve in the newness of spirit.

(The above also says that those who esteem, use, invoke and promote the 'thou shall not covet' commandment becomes 'the dead'.)

The second one:

Galatians: 6 King James Version (KJV)
7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
9 And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.

In the above one is informed that those who can and do soweth to Spirit reap eternal life.

These are directly linked to Christianity. Christianity is anchored on Jesus Christ and not on Moses.

Christianity is anchored on following Jesus. Christianity is not (at all) about esteeming, using, invoking and promoting the 'thou shall not covet' commandment and becoming 'the dead who bury their dead'

Matthew: 8 King James Version (KJV)
22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.

To follow Jesus is to be literally led by the Lord Jesus while one physically live on earth and then travel the same passage which Jesus Christ took, after he physically died on earth. This is as follows.

1 Corinthians: 15 King James Version (KJV)
35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.

The above says the following:
1. Jesus was born in a physical body and he rose to heaven clad only in a spirit body.
2. There were two Jesus.
3. One Jesus is the physical, 'seen', temporal, flesh and blood, earthly Jesus, who was not the Lord form heaven. (This was the son of man. Mary's son or at best half Mary's and half Holy Spirit)
4. The other Jesus is the Spirit 'not seen' and eternal Jesus who is the Lord from and in heaven. (This is the Son of God/Holy Spirit. The pure Son of the Holy Spirit)

We are also told the following:

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

Clearly then the Lord was not and is not the physical, 'seen', temporal, flesh and blood, earthly, son of man Jesus. He was 'seen' and temporal. He is no more

Clearly the Lord is the Spirit 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Jesus who is very alive and eternally present in the spirit realm.

Therefore for Christians, the lord and savior is Jesus, clad only in His Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, body who is on His throne of glory, currently and eternally, in spirit heaven, on the right hand of God (who is the Holy Spirit). And in that form and from that place, Jesus is ready willing and able to make intercession on behalf of Saints and Christians with the Holy Spirit.

How then can one reach Jesus and be led by Jesus into serving one's own spirit and soweth to Spirit? The following tells it all.

The following is about intercession for Saints/Christians according to the will of God. The will of God is the Spirit of God. The revelation says the Spirit makes intercession according to the Will/Spirit of God.

We are also told the Jesus who is clad only in His Spirit body is on the right side of the Holy Spirit ready, willing and able to make intercession for Saints/Christians. Therefore 'the spirit' mentioned in the following revelation is the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
26 Likewise the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession) also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession) itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession), because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

Clearly what the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession has in mind for one to know, pray for, say and do must incorporate serving one's own spirit and simultaneously soweth-ing to Spirit. And it is quite so:

The Spirit of Jesus makes intercession "with groanings which cannot be uttered". These are the ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirations which are the essential fabric of our own hearts/spirit. This is the component of Jesus' intercession that relates to serving our spirits.

And Jesus make this intercession according to the will of God. The will of God is the Spirit of God. This is the part related to soweth-ing to Spirit.

The Spirit of Jesus make intercession "with groanings which cannot be uttered" 'according to the Will/Spirit of God'.

And from this intercession (which is done is real time all the time), the Spirit of Jesus come up with precisely what each Saint/Christian must know, pray for say and do (in real time all the time).

And one who can and do, search his or her own heart/spirit (in real time all the time) comes to know precisely what the Spirit of Jesus has in mind for him/her to know, pray for say and do (in real time, all the time).

One who is led into all his or her works by this becomes a Christian/Saint.

One who believes in the Spirit of Jesus (who is the only Lord for Christian) are led by the Spirit of Jesus, Unconditionally. They have God given freedom. liberty, justification and instructions to transgress the ten commandments so as to serve their spirit and soweth to Spirit:

Acts: 13 King James Version (KJV)
39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death

The above is the Christian way of life, as literally and clearly defined in the Holy KJV N.T.

There is no other passage to Christianity.

Gurucam
July 28th, 2017, 03:32 PM
1 Corinthians: 15 King James Version (KJV)
35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

Since 2000 odd years ago, Jesus rose to God's kingdom of heaven in spirit heaven clad only in his Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal Son of God body.

God's kingdom of heaven is within one's own heart/spirit:

Luke: 17 King James Version (KJV)
20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

If one wants to know Jesus and be known to Jesus, one must seek him out in God's kingdom which is within one, i.e. within one's own heart/spirit:

Matthew: 7 KJV N.T
22 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

How else will one know Jesus and be known to Jesus unless, while one lives, one achieve live communion with the Spirit of Jesus within one's own heart/spirit.

It is obvious that Jesus is clad only in His Spirit body in God's kingdom of heaven that is within one's own heart/spirit. Because one is instructed to search one's heart to know what the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession has in mind for one to know, pray for, say and do:

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession), because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

This is absolutely simple and clear.

A billion strong traditional Christians are trying all kinds of short cut nonsense, instead of simply seeking Jesus as he is now, i.e. clad only in His Spirit, in God's kingdom of heaven which is within one's own heart/spirit.

A billion strong traditional Christians are esteeming, using, invoking and promoting the ten commandment which killeth spiritual awareness. They are therefore, 'the dead' and cannot access and/or search their hearts/spirits to discern Jesus within. Therefore they cannot know, be known to and be led by the Spirit of Jesus Who is the Lord in heaven:

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death

The sad fact is that they do not know Jesus and Jesus do not know them. However they foolishly believe that they are first in line.

oatmeal
July 28th, 2017, 04:10 PM
Without the law.

Gurucam
July 30th, 2017, 07:43 AM
Refer to post # 87. above

Why are the billion strong traditional Christians not authentic Christians?

The answer to the above is linked directly to: Why is it that a billion strong traditional Christians do not seek, commune with and be guided, live and direct by, the Spirit, eternal, Son of God Lord Jesus as discerned within one's own heart/spirit?

It is the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession who makes intercession for spiritually aware/'converted' people with groaning which they cannot utter according to the will of God.

From the above intersession the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession comes up with precisely what each spiritually aware/'converted' person must know, pray for, say and do.

And it is when spiritually aware/'converted' people discern and are led by precisely what the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession has in mind for each of them, to know, pray for, say and do within their own heart/spirit, they become Saints/Christians.

The billion strong traditional Christians cannot and do not take the above path. This is quite apart from the fact that a billion cannot be the few.

Therefore the question is why is it not possible for the billion strong traditional to take and/or use the above path?

The answer is quite simple:

Jesus is currently in God's kingdom of heaven in the spirit realm, clad only in His Spirit, eternal, Son of God body. And he can be reached and communed with, only by people who can and do search their own heart/spirit and discern and commune with, the Spirit of Jesus within each of their own individual heart/spirit.

1 Corinthians: 15 King James Version (KJV)
35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession), because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

The above is how one identify, discern, know precisely what Jesus has in mind for one to know, pray for say and do and so be be led by Jesus while one physically live on earth.

Following Jesus is also about follow Jesus after one dies physically. This is about separating out of one's physical body, clad only in one's spirit body, when one physically die . . . and rising in three days (like Jesus Christ) to be like an angel in heaven, in the mansion in God's house which Jesus went ahead to prepare for those who can and actually do, follow him to spirit heaven:

John: 14 King James Version (KJV)
2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

Mark: 12 King James Version (KJV)
25 For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.

The billion strong traditional Christians cannot search their own heart for anything. This is because they are not aware of/awakened to, their own individual heart or spirit. That is, they are 'the dead'.

The reason that they are 'the dead' is: They esteem, use, invoke and promote the ten commandments which makes them and/or keep them 'the dead'.

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death

'The dead' (being dead to their own heart/spirit) cannot follow Jesus Who is clad only in His Spirit body, 'seated' on His throne of glory in God's spirit kingdom of heaven. Since 2000 odd yeas ago, Jesus can be reached only by those who can and do, search each of their own heart or spirit. 'The dead' cannot do this.

'The dead' are not given to follow Jesus. 'The dead' are given only to bury each other in that other place:

Matthew: 8 King James Version (KJV)
22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.

It is only by having actual awareness of the spirit realm that one will know, first hand, the great folly (joke and curse) that is, 1.) the idea of the ten commandments and 2.) the ten commandments, themselves.

. . . also it is only by having actual live communion with the Spirit of Jesus through one's own heart/spirit, in the spirit realm that one will know/'believe', first hand, in one's own heart, that Jesus did not die 2000 odd years ago but God raised him to spirit heaven, clad only in His Spirit body after he physical died.

Intuitively knowing in one's heart is believing in one's heart.

Romans: 10 King James Version (KJV)
9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Knowing things through one's physical senses is not the same as knowing things through the intuitive 'senses'/faculties of one heart/spirit.

Knowing things through one's physical senses is very tangible. For 'the dead' this is the only reality.

Knowing things through the intuitive faculties of one's heart/spirit is totally different from knowing things through physical sensual detection.

Knowing things through the intuitive faculties of one's heart/spirit is a more subtle (sensitive) knowing that is more like believing.

In the above revelations 'believing in thy heart' is actually coming to direct intuitive and experiential awareness that Jesus is indeed alive within one's own heart/spirit.

This is achieved by having the 'eyes to see', the 'ears to hear' and the 'hearts to understand'. These do not describe physical seeing, physical hearing and physical/intellectual/ego understanding. These describes 'extra' 'seeing', 'hearing' and understanding which occurs only intuitively/spiritually.

'The eyes to see', the ears to hear' and the hearts to understand' are (intuitive) faculties of one's heart/spirit body. This is described as being 'converted':

Matthew: 13 KJV N.T.
15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

If one is not converted one is simply 'the dead' and not given to know truth. 'The dead' are kept under the ten commandments and parable for appeasing them on their perceptions of 'wisdom'. This is done, so as to manage their physical/carnal behavior. There is no possibility of salvation and deliverance for the dead, unless or until, they become 'converted'. Only then can 'the dead' be liberated from their carnality:

Matthew: 13 KJV N.T.
10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

Gurucam
July 31st, 2017, 12:59 PM
Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death

The above says that the 'thou shall not covet commandment' makes one 'the dead'.

Jesus instructed those who follow him to let the dead bury their dead:

Matthew: 8 King James Version (KJV)
22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.

If one choses to esteem, use, invoke and promote the 'thou shall not covet' commandment one is choosing to be and/or remain, 'the dead' who, at no event, can and/or do, follow Jesus.

There is no calculus math in this. This is simple kindergarten sums.

The fact is 'the dead' cannot know Jesus or be known to Jesus.

Those who continue to deny the above truth/fact (which is literally from the Holy KJV N.T.) are simply blowing away any prospects of being saved, delivered and becoming Christian.

'The dead' bring forth only 'fruits onto death' and no 'fruits onto God':

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

Only those who bring forth fruits onto God inherit God's kingdom:

Matthew: 21 KJV N.T.
43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.

When people are in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work among them, (i.e. among their members,) to bring forth fruit unto death.

However when they became converted they can serve in the newness of spirit. Then they have God given freedom, liberty, justification and instructions to transgress the 'thou shall not covet' commandment so that they can serve in the newness of spirit. This stops them from bringing forth any fruits onto dead and start bringing forth only fruits onto God. This is how one inherits God's kingdom of heaven.

Therefore there was a good reason why the 'thou shall not covert' commandment was 'done-away-with so that people can serve in the newness of spirit. This was to stop newly converted people from continuing to bring forth 'fruits onto dead' (like 'the dead do) and have them start bringing and continue to bring, forth only 'fruits on to God'.

The sad fact is those who esteem, use, invoke and promote the 'thou shall not covet' commandment continue to be 'the dead' or become 'the dead'. And they continue to bring forth only 'fruits onto death' which included 'children of the flesh', like Ishmael) and no 'fruits onto God' who included 'children of God', like Issac)

One is free to ignore this important revelation from the Holy KJV N.T. and, instead, esteem, use, invoke and promote the 'thou shall not covet' commandment. Such a one will continue to be 'the dead' or become 'the dead' and so continue to bring forth only 'children of the flesh', like Ishmael. This is to soweth to flesh and reap corruption (and inherit hell, inside the earth with Satan):

Galatians: 6 King James Version (KJV)
7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
9 And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.

'The dead' means spiritually dead or dead to one's own heart/spirit. This describes one who is aware of only his flesh and blood body. Such a one can soweth only to flesh and reap only corruption.

Esteeming, using, invoking and/or promoting the 'thou shall not covet' commandment in the least way, keeps one 'the dead' or makes one 'the dead', 100% guaranteed.

You who want to be under the 'thou shall not covet' commandment, don't you hear the above. Don't you hear the serious consequence of esteeming, using, upholding and promoting the 'thou shall not covet' commandment (as literally delivered in the Holy KJV N.T. and literally posted above):

Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
16 Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?
19 My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you,
20 I desire to be present with you now, and to change my voice; for I stand in doubt of you.
21 Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law?
22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.
23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet

. . . notice that being dead within (i.e. spiritually dead or 'the dead) one is held under the 'thou shall not covet' commandment. However when one is spiritually aware (i.e. converted) one is 'dead to' and 'delivered from' the thou shall not covet' commandment, so that one can covert so as to serve in the newness of spirit/love.

The above is to stop you from bringing forth fruits onto death and start bringing forth only fruits onto God. This show you how to be the chosen few who inherit God's kingdom of heaven and not be delivered into the earth, in hell with Satan.

The above shows you how to follow Jesus to heaven and not be 'the dead who bury each other inside the earth, in hell with Satan.

Gurucam
August 3rd, 2017, 07:31 AM
Matthew: 7 KJV N.T.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

The question is, how can prophesying in Jesus name, casting out devils (healing) in Jesus' name and doing many wonderful things in Jesus' name be a 'bad thing?

These people were doing these things in Jesus' name.

Why would Jesus tell such people, I never knew you, depart from me, you that work iniquities?

Fact is, in the Christian tradition, one is not required to do any thing in Jesus' Jesus' name.

Jesus simply makes intercession for one with the 'Will of God' 'according to urging that one cannot utter':

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
26 Likewise the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession) also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession) itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession), because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

This is not done though the physical, 'seen' and temporal, flesh and blood, earthly, son of man, Jesus who is not the Lord from Heaven:

1 Corinthians: 15 King James Version (KJV)
35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

This interceding is done by the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God Jesus Who is the Lord in and from, heaven . . . as the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession.

As the spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession Jesus is absolutely impersonal and dispassionate. He cannot and do not forgive sins and/or answer prayers.

John 16 King James Version (KJV)
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

The Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession simply enable one to serve one's own spirit in absolute harmony with the will of God . . . with absolutely no interference and/or personal input.

Jesus, as the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession, has no input or personal or other agenda. He serve like a perfect high powered computer. 'Garbage in', garbage out'. Wisdom in', 'wisdom out'. Jesus does not get involve or cares.

Jesus, as the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession, simply enables and lets everyone who can and do, commune with him have the expression and materialization of all things in each of their heart/spirit, in perfect harmony with the Holy Spirit with absolutely no limitation.

Luke: 18 KJV N.T.
27 And he said, The things which are impossible with men are possible with God.

When one believes and promotes that the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession will require one to esteem, use, invoke and promote the ten commandments one is defying Jesus.

One is denying that that "things which are impossible with men are possible with God". One is limiting God's to one's own 'wisdom'.

The billion strong traditional Christians actively add and promote million of limitations and denials to "things which are impossible with men are possible with God". This is based on their own 'ego-driven' 'unawares' limited perceptions and 'blindness'. Their own 'ego-driven', 'unawares', 'false brethren', 'spying-nature' limited perceptions and 'blindness' lead and drive them. They are not driven and led by the fact that "things which are impossible with men are possible with God".

They do not perceive or believe that they can get their daily living magically (i.e. beyond their own rationalizing).

They are not aware of their own spirits and the spirit reality (i.e. they are the dead'). So their vision is only flesh based and they can soweth only to flesh and reap corruption.

Because they are the dead (i.e. in the flesh) and not aware of the spirit realm where all things are possible and exists as probabilities, they cannot perceive, accept and/or believe that they can have God given freedom, liberty, justification and instructions to transgress the 'thou shall not covet' commandment so as to serve spirit. So they deny this fact.

Because of the above their works are iniquities. They simply do not recognize God and are simply not led by God. They cannot perceive the literal fact that: "things which are impossible with men are possible with God".

Matthew: 12 King James Version (KJV)
50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.

Matthew: 7 King James Version (KJV)
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

This approach drive and lead their life on earth, as humans. When they die and are forced into the spirit real where Jesus has his kingdom and rules powerfully, Jesus attitude to them is as follows:

Jesus will say to them: I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

One must know how to discern, know and be led by the will of God who is in heaven.

This is possible only when one can be led into all of one's works by precisely what the Spirit of Jesus has in mind for one to know, pray for, say and do as discerned within one's own heart/spirit, (in real time all the time,) even if one has to transgress the ten commandments . . . and so be it.

CherubRam
August 3rd, 2017, 02:00 PM
Quote: "But now the righteousness of God without the ten commandments is manifested"

I find no verse in the bible that states that comment above.

Gurucam
August 3rd, 2017, 04:27 PM
Quote: "But now the righteousness of God without the ten commandments is manifested"

I find no verse in the bible that states that comment above.

On what basis do you lay claim to know Christianity?

Romans: 3 KJV N.T.
20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

Acts: 13 King James Version (KJV)
39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death

'The law' in the above is the law of sin and death which are the ten commandments. Those who esteem, use, invoke and/or promote these commandment, even in the least way, become 'the dead'.

There was a very critical need for righteousness without the ten commandments because the ten commandments killeth and cause one to bring forth only undesirable fruits. This very unfortunate circumstance reigned among the Jews until Jesus introduced righteousness that is without the law of sin and death, (i.e. the without the ten commandments). Then the law of sin and death rules only those who refused to become Christians and remained Jews.

Romans: 3 King James Version (KJV)
19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

Romans 7 King James Version (KJV)
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

Too many people are attempting to 'teach' Christianity and they are totally clueless about the subject. This is how false prophets deceive many.

Many 'teachers' of Christianity are :dunce:

CherubRam
August 3rd, 2017, 04:49 PM
The law being spoken of is Moses laws, not the commands of God.

Deuteronomy 8:3
He humbled you, causing you to hunger and then feeding you with manna, which neither you nor your ancestors had known, to teach you that man does not live on bread alone but on every word that comes from the mouth of the Lord.
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Matthew 4:4
Jesus answered, “It is written: ‘Man shall not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.’”
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Luke 4:4
Jesus answered, “It is written: ‘Man shall not live on bread alone.’”
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CherubRam
August 3rd, 2017, 05:00 PM
The old priesthood governed the festivals, sacrifices, and the offerings.

Obedience, Not Sacrifice
Jeremiah 7

21 This is what the Lord of Hosts, the God of Israel, says: “Add your burnt offerings to your other sacrifices, and eat the meat yourselves, 22 for when I brought your ancestors out of the land of Egypt, I did not speak with them or command them concerning burnt offering and sacrifice. 23 However, I did give them this command: Obey Me, and then I will be your God, and you will be My people. You must follow every way I command you so that it may go well with you. 24 Yet they didn’t listen or pay attention but followed their own advice and according to their own stubborn, evil heart. They went backward and not forward. 25 Since the day your ancestors came out of the land of Egypt until this day, I have sent all My servants the prophets to you time and time again. 26 However, they wouldn’t listen to Me or pay attention, but became obstinate; they did more evil than their ancestors.



For I did not speak to your forefathers, nor command them concerning burnt offerings or sacrifices in the day that I brought them out of the land of Egypt:

Gurucam
August 4th, 2017, 12:48 AM
CherubRam

I will not engage you.

If you have confidence in your ideas then carry on with your ideas.

You and you alone, are responsible for yourself.

My posts are simply and literally the Holy KJV N.T.

You are free to 'take it or leave it'.

Gurucam
August 5th, 2017, 07:00 AM
2 Corinthians 3 King James Version (KJV)
6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

Only the Spirit giveth life, i.e. life eternal.

There are just two options. These are, having eternal Life or being killeth. These are related to our two bodies:

1 Corinthians: 15 King James Version (KJV)
35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.

Our natural/physical bodies are 'seen' and temporal. Our spirit bodies are 'not seen' and eternal. The very clear instruction is:

2 Corinthians: 4 King James Version (KJV)
18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.

Being 'killeth' is to be unaware of our spiritual body (our spirit is our 'not seen' and eternal part/side). This means that one's spirit body is not quickened. Such people are describes as 'the unawares'. Such a one is described, also, as 'the dead' . . . i.e. 'the spiritually dead' and children of the flesh and Satan.

On the other hand 'having eternal life' describes those humans who (in addition to being aware of their physical/natural bodies) are also aware of their own spirit bodies. This is to have a quickened spirit body. This spirit body does not die when one dies physically and so one who is aware of this body has eternal life. Physical death is simply the lost of one's physical body/natural body.

The above revelation from the Holy KJV N.T. literally says: Jesus was born in a physical/natural body Then when Jesus physically died he rose, in three days, to spirit heaven, into God's kingdom of heaven, to be the Lord in heaven, clad only in his spirit body. He rose to spirit heaven clad only in his spirit body.

The above revelation from the Holy KJV N.T. literally says: There are two bodies one physical/natural/earthly. This body is of earth. When one dies this body goes back to the basic elements of earth . . . i.e. dust to dust. Mother Mary created this body for Jesus from the elements of earth through the natural workings of her physical body. Then after Jesus' birth he maintained and grew this/his physical body by eating, breathing and processing elements of this earth, through the natural functioning of his natural/physical body.

In this physical/natural body Jesus, cannot be, was not and is not the Lord. This is the part of Jesus that came from earth, through Mother Mary. And when he died physically this body had to be left on earth to return dust to dust.

However, on earth as the son of man, (in addition to this physical/natural body,) Jesus also had (and all humans have) a component that was from God, the Holy Spirit. This was his spirit body. This spirit body had/has many facets.

All humans have these two bodies. However not all all humans are aware of both bodies. All humans are aware of varying levels of their physical/natural body. However not every one is aware of their spirit body.

There are many words used in the Holy KJV N.T. to describe people who are not aware of their spirit bodies. These included:

1. 'the unawares'
2. 'the dead'
3. the 'dead within'
4. the not 'converted'
5. one whose 'heart is waxed gross'
6. one who does not have the 'eyes to see', the 'ears to hear' and the 'heart to understand'
7. one who 'died' as in 'I died'
8. one who esteem, use, invoke and promote the the thou shall not covet' commandment. This commandments killeth'.
9. one who is 'killeth'.
10 Satan
11. one who savor the things of man and not the things of God.
12. one who soweth to flesh and not to Spirit.
13. one who serve flesh and the ten commandments and not transgress the ten commandments so as to serve his own spirit
14. one who is not given to know/get the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven.
15. one who is not not given to follow Jesus
16. one who, esteems, use, invoke and promote parables instead of the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven.
17. a child of the flesh

There are just two states of general human actualization mentioned by Jesus and recorded in the Holy KJV N.T.. These two are the basis of two division as follows, 'the dead' and 'the spiritually aware'. Only the spiritually aware are given to follow Jesus and to get/know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven.

The above # 1 to 17 give some of the Holy KJV N.T. descriptions for 'the dead'

Jesus was born 'the dead' to taste spiritual death as humans. His mission was to be born as a 'spiritually dead' human like the Jews, among the Jews. And to be converted to spiritual awareness and Christ during his life. And to leave this passage for the Jews and all others to embrace.

However no one was forced to follow Jesus. To follow Jesus is to be converted and be healed by Jesus. This is to cease being a Jew or a Greek and become a Christian.

However those who wanted to remain 'the dead' (and bury each other) were free to do so. These included those who remained Jews and Greeks.

Jesus' passage is the live example of those who seek to follow him and become Christians. During Jesus' life he quickened his spirit body. That is he became aware of his spirit body and actualized the intuitive faculties of this body. That is, he became aware of his own spirit and developed the capacity to function through his spirit body.

During Jesus' physical life on earth he demonstrated a life in Christ. This is Christianity and Christianity is anchored on serving one's own spirit in harmony with the Will of God (the Holy Spirit) with absolutely no regard for or recognition of, the ten commandments.

Also because Jesus became aware of his spirit body, when he physically dies he remained aware of his spirit body which survives physical death. Then he was able to and did, separate from his dead physical body, clad in his spirit body. And he was able to and did, rise to spirit heaven, in three days, clad only in his spirit body.

Jesus left the following instruction:

Matthew: 8 King James Version (KJV)
22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.

Jesus informed and advised;

Matthew 22 King James Version (KJV)
14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

Christians are the actual chosen few, who literally and actually follow the above path.

If one remains 'the dead' one cannot follow Jesus to spirit heaven. One is the dead who bury their dead inside the earth, in hell with Satan.

Also one who esteem, use, invoke and promote the ten commandments, even in the least manner are killeth. They are killed spiritually, i.e. they die (spiritually). They definitely and invariably remain or become 'the dead who bury their dead', inside the earth, in hell with Satan.

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death

Gurucam
August 5th, 2017, 09:21 AM
Hebrews; 2 KJV N.T.
9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.
14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;
15 And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.
16 For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham.

'Suffering death' is to suffer spiritual death.

'To taste death' is to taste spiritual dead.

Jesus was born in the house of David to taste spiritual death. The house of David are Jews who esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments which killeth.

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death

By being born under the ten ten commandments, in the house of David, Jesus was able to taste death, i.e. spiritual death, because the ten commandments killeth.

Gurucam
August 5th, 2017, 09:37 AM
1 Corinthians: 15 KJV N.T.
50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

For thousands of years trditional Christians erroneously believed that Jesus rose to heaven in a physical body. The above confirms that 'flesh and blood' cannot and do not enter or inherit the kingdom of God, which is in heaven.

Fact is, Jesus rose to heaven clad only in a spirit body:

1 Corinthians: 15 King James Version (KJV)
35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.

We are in the fullness of time, further and all corruption and distortions, that plagues traditional Christianity, is being corrected.

Gurucam
August 5th, 2017, 10:08 AM
Hebrews; 2 KJV N.T.
9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.
14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;

The Jews were the partakers of flesh and blood. Jesus was born among them to also be a partaker of flesh and blood (i.e. he served his flesh and blood body). This is to be 'the dead' i.e. to be dead to one's spirit.

Jesus was born under the ten commandments which killeth, i.e. bring (spiritual) death. He was born among Jews to be killeth by the ten commandments and so taste spiritual death:

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death

Jesus came to destroy 'him that had the power of death, that is, the devil'.

The above says that him that had the power of death is the devil.

The power of death is the ten commandments . . . because the ten commandments killeth.

In very clear and literal words, the above confirms that the ten commandments are 'the devil' which Jesus came to destroy and replace with righteousness of God that is without the ten commandments:

Romans: 3 KJV N.T.
21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

Gurucam
August 5th, 2017, 10:26 AM
Jesus came to do-away-with the ten commandments which killeth and which are the devil and replace it with transgressing the ten commandments so as to serve one's own spirit, while soweth-ing to Spirit:

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death

Hebrews; 2 KJV N.T.
9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.
14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

The ten commandments are the devil which killeth.

It is a most Antichrist act is to esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments (even in the slightest manner).

Worse than the above is to claim and promote that recognizing, esteeming, using, invoking and promoting the ten commandments is a Christian thing.

Jesus will have (extract) vengeance for both of these acts.

Gurucam
August 5th, 2017, 10:51 AM
Hebrews; 2 KJV N.T.
9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.

How did Jesus taste death? Jesus tasted death by being born into a Jewish home that was under the ten commandments (. . . and the ten commandments killeth)

Jesus was born a child of the flesh, under the ten commandments:

Romans: 1 KJV N.T.
3 Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;

Galatians: 4 King James Version (KJV)
4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,

Jesus died spiritually because he was born under the ten commandments which killeth. This was deliberate, so that he can taste death (spiritual death) and revive from this death and provide the path for this transformation:

The ten commandments (as exemplified by the 'thou shall not covet' commandment) killeth:

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death

The word 'death' and 'died' in the above different revelations ties in, support and clarify the literal message in all these revelations.

Jesus came to taste spiritual death that was caused by esteeming, using, invoking and promoting the ten commandments. He came to experience this, so as to do-away-with the ten commandments which killeth and which are the devil and replace it with transgressing the ten commandments so as to serve one's own spirit, while soweth-ing to Spirit in perfect harmony.

Transgressing the ten commandments so as to serve one's own spirit in perfect harmony with the Holy Spirit is the new covenant. This is Christianity.

To deny the above while you live is to earn the wrath of Jesus, which you will experience, in the spirit realm, in Jesus' kingdom, when you physically die:

Romans: 12 King James Version (KJV)
19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.

John 18 King James Version (KJV)
36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.

1 Corinthians: 15 King James Version (KJV)
35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

Jesus is 'the Lord, 'seated' on his throne in spirit heaven, clad only in his spirit body. The physical realm of earth was not his kingdom. He was weak here. However he is very powerful in the spirit realm. Jesus judges and dispatches everyone to either heaven or hell) in the spirit realm after they physically dies.

Jesus' judgment and dispatching are based on whether
1. one transgressed the ten commandments and served one's spirit while one soweth to Spirit. These people please Jesus and are delivered to heaven. or
2. one esteem, use, invoke and promote the ten commandments and so soweth to flesh. These people invariably sin and fall short of the glory of God and are delivered into the earth, in hell, with Satan,

The instructions (with respect to the new covenant) were two fold and very clear. One must transgress the ten commandments and serve one's own spirit while one soweth to Spirit:

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

Galatians: 6 King James Version (KJV)
7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
9 And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.

Gurucam
August 5th, 2017, 12:08 PM
Hebrews; 2 KJV N.T.
9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.
14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;

How did Jesus taste death? Jesus tasted death by being born into a Jewish home that was under the ten commandments. The ten commandments are the devil. The ten commandments killeth (spiritual awareness)

Jesus was born a child of the flesh, under the ten commandments:

Romans: 1 KJV N.T.
3 Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;

Galatians: 4 King James Version (KJV)
4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,

Jesus was born under the ten commandments according to flesh. He was born a fruit onto death (a child of the flesh) and not a fruit onto God (a child of God). This is what happens when one is born under the ten commandments:

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death

To be born under the 'thou shall not covet commandment' is to be a fruit onto death, i.e. a child of the flesh. To remain under and esteem, use, invoke and promote this commandment is to bring forth only fruits onto death (i.e. children of the flesh).

Jesus was deliberate born under the ten commandments so that he could taste/experience spiritual death and rise from it . . . which he did and lived to reveal the path.

Jesus was born a Jews. He was born a child of the flesh under the ten commandments. However this was his only similarity with Jews. Jesus did not remain a Jew. He ceased being a Jew and became a Christian (i.e. one 'in Christ').

Jesus made this transformation by becoming 'converted'. That is he cease being 'the dead'/child of the flesh and become aware of/awakened to his own spirit.

Then he created a new spirit for himself. This Spirit conformed to the Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession. This Spirit led Jesus to be 'in Christ'.

Then after his physical death and rise to spirit heaven, clad only in this Spirit, Jesus became the Lord in heaven. There he 'sits' on his throne of glory, ready willing and able to make intercession for those who want to come onto 'Christ'.

Those who want to be Christians (i.e. in Christ) must seek out this Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession within each of their own hearts/spirits. And be led, unconditionally, into all of their own works by precisely what this Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession has in mind for each of them to know, pray for, say and do, even if each of them have to routinely or otherwise, transgress the ten commandments.

Gurucam
August 5th, 2017, 05:45 PM
Matthew: 13 KJV N.T.
10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:
15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

1 Corinthians: 15 King James Version (KJV)
35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.

Everyone has a natural/physical body and a spirit body.

One whose physical body is dead, is described as 'sleeping' by Jesus.

One who is dead to his spirit body is described 'the dead', by Jesus.

'The dead' means dead to one's own spirit. Such a one does not have the 'eyes to see', 'the ears to hear' and the heart to understand.

'The dead' is one whose heart/spirit is waxed gross/covered over.

'The dead' are not given to know or get, the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven.

Also 'the dead' are not given by God to follow Jesus.

'The dead' are held under the ten commandments and parables until they become awakened to/aware of, their own spirits. This is to be converted. Then they naturally and spontaneously throw out the ten commandments and parables and also transgress these so as to serve their own spirits in harmony with soweth-ing to Spirit.

Gurucam
August 5th, 2017, 06:17 PM
2 Corinthians: 3 King James Version (KJV)
17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. That is 'the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones' (i.e. the ten commandments) is done-away-with where the Spirit of Jesus is present.

The Acts: 13 KJV N.T.
39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.

2 Corinthians: 3 King James Version (KJV)
6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:

The 'ministration of death, written and engraven in stones' are the ten commandments. The ten commandments are the ministration of death. They killeth.

The 'ministration of death, written and engraven in stones' are the ten commandments which were glorious. However their glory are done-away-with. They are replaced by the Spirit of Jesus:

2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
12 Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech:
13 And not as Moses, which put a veil over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:
14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.
15 But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.
16 Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.
17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

Gurucam
August 6th, 2017, 11:35 AM
Matthew: 24 King James Version (KJV)
40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

2 Corinthians: 3 King James Version (KJV)
17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. That is 'the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones' (i.e. the ten commandments) is done-away-with where the Spirit of Jesus is present.

The Acts: 13 KJV N.T.
39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.

2 Corinthians: 3 King James Version (KJV)
6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:

The ten commandments prevailed and ruled on the surface of earth for the past 2000 odd years because the Spirit of Jesus was weak on the surface of earth. Recently the Spirit of Jesus strengthened on the surface of earth because of recent realignment of the heavenly bodies.

The heavenly bodies (planets, moons, sun, etc) are the holy angels who can empower and strengthen or dis-empower and weaken, the Spirit of Jesus, on the surface of earth. Outside the surface of earth, the Spirit was and continue to be very powerful.

Jesus can come to rule on earth only by being empowered and accompanied by heavenly bodies/angels, who are the heavenly bodies:

Matthew: 25 KJV N.T.
31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:

Recently the Spirit of Jesus strengthened on the surface of earth because of recent realignment of the heavenly bodies.

Now the ten commandments (the devil) can no longer prevail and rule on the surface of earth. The ten commandments are done away. Now the Spirit of Jesus will prevail and rule on the surface of earth.

2 Corinthians: 3 King James Version (KJV)
7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:

Hebrews; 2 KJV N.T.
14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;

"The ministration of death, written and engraven in stones", is the ten commandments. And the power of death is the devil. The ten commandments are the devil.

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death

When the ten commandments were introduced, 'I died'. And the ten commandments that were ordained to life, I found to be unto death. The ten commandments are the ministration of death. They killeth. The ten commandments are the devil.

The empowerment of the Spirit of Jesus on the surface has come to banish and is banishing the devil, which are the ten commandments, from the surface of earth:

2 Corinthians: 3 King James Version (KJV)
17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

The new prevailing and ruling reality on the surface of earth is anchored on transgressing the ten commandments so as to serve one's own spirit while one soweth to Spirit. This is the idea of Jesus, as the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession.

Those who are not relevant to the above new ruling reality on the surface of earth, will be dispatched to an alternative place that is more fitting to their spiritual unawareness and Antichrist, pro-Mosaic/ten commandments nature.

Matthew: 24 King James Version (KJV)
40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

The above describes a concept/technique in Quantum Mechanics. The above describes teleportation, out of the surface of earth, to hell inside the earth with Satan through black hole portals, according to one's own entanglement.

To be entangled with the ten commandments is to be entangled with spiritual death, sin, falling short of the glory of God and delivery into hell, inside the earth, with Satan. This is to belong to another dimension that is hell inside the earth, with Satan. This is to not (or no longer) belong to the surface of earth, now that the Spirit of Jesus rules here and is creating and sustaining God's kingdom of heaven here, (i.e. on the surface of earth).

. . . the age which permitted O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments people to stay on the surface of earth is totally done away with.

Please take notice.

Gurucam
August 6th, 2017, 01:08 PM
Matthew: 24 King James Version (KJV)
40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

The surface of earth has entered a new age. New ideas (as in the New Testament) and new people are being empowered.

The old age and its ideas (as in the Old Testament) and old rulers are dying to give way to the new.

The surface of earth can no longer support both O.T. and N.T. ideas and people.

If one does not adapt, one will be dispatched to elsewhere, while one is clad in one's physical body.

Matthew: 10 King James Version (KJV)
34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

The above sword is being applied to separate O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments people from N.T./spirit and Spirit/Jesus/Christian people.

Do not be fooled about the above fact.

Please read and re-read post # 106 above.

Gurucam
August 6th, 2017, 01:39 PM
Matthew: 24 King James Version (KJV)
40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

The above describes a concept/technique in Quantum Mechanics. The above describes teleportation, out of the surface of earth, to hell inside the earth with Satan through black hole portals, according to one's own entanglement.

To be entangled with the ten commandments is to be entangled with spiritual death, sin, falling short of the glory of God and delivery into hell, inside the earth, with Satan. This is to belong to another dimension that is hell inside the earth, with Satan. This is to not (or no longer) belong to the surface of earth, now that the Spirit of Jesus rules here and is creating and sustaining God's kingdom of heaven here, (i.e. on the surface of earth).

The above separation is done spiritually, i.e. through the techniques of Quantum Mechanics. The age is spiritual.

Up to recently the age was physical and separation was done through physical means. This included the idea and use of Noah's ark and hiding/holding out in some safe place, etc.. This is no longer possible.

No underground bunkers, huge ocean going ships and/or airborne vehicles, will counter or avoid this separation.

One who need to be dispatched to elsewhere, will be accessed everywhere and any where.

No past skills and/or technologies (of our 'modern' scientists) will help anyone.

The billion strong tradition Christians are (as usual) deceived by false prophets into believing that those who are teleported out of here are destine for heaven.

Fact is, children of God, like Isaac, are destine to inherit the surface of earth in the fullness of time when God's kingdom of heaven come to earth . . . without children of the flesh (like Ishmael).

Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.

This fullness of time is at hand.

Children of God are N.T./spirit and Spirit/Jesus/Christian people.

Children of the flesh are O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments/spiritually dead people.

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death

Authentic Christians are a few. They are the chosen few.

Matthew: 22 King James Version (KJV)
14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

Billions are anchored on the O.T. and/or the N.T.. These people are seriously jeopardized in this separation. Are you guys catching on?

Billions who comprise, traditional Christians, Jews and 'law' Moslem are anchored on the O.T.. According to the Holy KJV N.T. they are all seriously jeopardized, under the Jesus' sword of separation. None of them are Christians. None of them are among the chosen few:

Galatians 5:18King James Version (KJV)
18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Matthew: 10 King James Version (KJV)
34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

This separation cannot be stopped. One's salvation and deliverance to the heaven on earth, on the surface of earth, is anchored on only: getting relevant to and on board with, the N.T./spirit and Spirit/Jesus/Christian reality that is now governing on the surface of earth.

To argue for the justification of the ten commandments, at this time, is to seek death through your misguided and uninformed belief. This is also Antichrist.

Gurucam
August 7th, 2017, 04:19 AM
Billions who comprise, traditional Christians, Jews and 'law' Moslem are anchored on the O.T..

According to the Holy KJV N.T. they are all seriously jeopardized, under Jesus' sword of separation. None of them are Christians. None of them are among the chosen few:

Matthew: 22 King James Version (KJV)
14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

Galatians: 5 King James Version (KJV)
18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Matthew: 10 King James Version (KJV)
34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

Separation is according to:

Galatians: 6 King James Version (KJV)
7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
9 And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

The above defines the bases of Jesus sword of separation. Separation is between those who transgress the thou shall not covet commandment so as to serve in the newness of spirit (i.e. the new spirit and Spirit covenant) and those who remained under the old flesh covenant and continue to esteem, use, invoke and promote the thou shall not covet commandment.

The former is to serve one's spirit while one soweth to Spirit. This is to heaven bound.

The latter is to soweth to flesh while discerning wisdom in, esteeming, using, invoking and promoting the ten commandments which killeth. This is to be hell bound.

Separation results in dispatch to:

Matthew: 25 KJV N.T.
31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

Gurucam
August 7th, 2017, 06:14 AM
No one can or must deny CherubRam his right to hold, use and promote his own ideas.

However all others must be very careful about who they choose to teach them.

Gurucam
August 7th, 2017, 06:34 AM
Matthew: 10 King James Version (KJV)
34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

Hebrews: 9 King James Version (KJV)
27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment

Matthew: 22 King James Version (KJV)
14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

Matthew: 24 King James Version (KJV)
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

The judgment, separation and dispatching to either heaven or hell as revealed in the Holy KJV N.T. and posted on post # 109 above, occurs perpetually in the spirit realm.

Everyone among those who recognizes, esteems, uses, invokes and/or promotes the O.T. and the N.T. (even in the slightest manner) goes through this judgment, separation and dispatch to either heaven or hell when they physical die. This is where Jesus has his vengeance:

Romans: 12 King James Version (KJV)
19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.

Jesus' kingdom is in the spirit realm. He is absolutely powerful in that realm. All people go there when they physically die, to be judged, separated and dispatched either to heaven or hell.

John: 18 King James Version (KJV)
36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence

Those of you who think and believe that the Jews are special to Jesus need to have a serious second though on that idea.

God's kingdom of heaven have always existed in the spirit realm. Also hell have also existed in another dimension where some people are dispatched too.

Also for past millenniums, the surface of earth was hospitable to both heaven and hell.

This meant that both: those who transgress the thou shall not covet commandment so as to serve their own spirit in harmony with the Holy Spirit (i.e. the haven bound) . . . and those who esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments (the hell bound) were permitted on the surface of earth.

However there was a promise that the surface of earth will eventually cease being hospitable to O.T./hell bound people and be hospitable to only N.T./heaven bound people:

Matthew: 6 KJV N.T.
10 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.

It is dentine that in the fullness of time, God's will will be done on the surface of earth as it is done in spirit heaven. This is the promise that God's kingdom of heaven will come to earth.

Then only children of God (N.T./Christian people, like Isaac) will inherit the surface of earth without children of the flesh (O.T./ten commandments people, like Ishmael)

Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.

When the above happens those who discern wisdom in, esteem. use, invoke and promote the thou shall not covet commandment will be removed from the surface while they live on earth (in their 'live' physical bodies). This is because those who discern wisdom in, esteem, use, invoke and promote the thou shall not covet commandment are 'the dead', who invariably accrue sin, fall short of the glory of God and end in hell:

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

Therefore the above is a second and final great separation, judgment and dispatching to hell for those who discern wisdom in, esteem, use, invoke and promote the thou shall not covet commandment. And this will not occur when they physically dies but while they are physically alive. This will occur in the twinkling of an eye.

Then the surface of earth will be without any of 'the dead'. That is, the surface of earth will be without any O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments people. Only N.T./spirit and Spirit/Jesus/Christian people will be left on the surface of earth. Jesus would have applied his final sword of separation.

Matthew: 24 King James Version (KJV)
40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

Luke: 17 King James Version (KJV)
34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.

Luke: 13 KJV N.T.
28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.

We are at that fullness of time.

Galatians: 4 King James Version (KJV)
16 Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?

I am,

Yours, in total divine service.

Gurucam
August 7th, 2017, 07:39 AM
Romans: 12 King James Version (KJV)
19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.

Jesus' kingdom is in the spirit realm. He is absolutely powerful in that realm. All people go there when they physically die, to be judged, separated and dispatched either to heaven or hell.

John: 18 King James Version (KJV)
36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence

1 Thessalonians: 2 KJV N.T.
14 For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews:
15 Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men:

Those of you who think and believe that the Jews are special to Jesus need to have a serious second though on that idea.

Galatians: 4 King James Version (KJV)
16 Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?

It seems clear that the Jews (who seemed to have included Peter and Co. and others) were the main false prophets and unawares false spying brethren who misled billions of unsuspecting aspiring Christians.

Gurucam
August 7th, 2017, 10:34 AM
Who judges the Jews and other tribes and on what basis and how?

Matthew: 25 KJV N.T.
31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

Galatians: 6 King James Version (KJV)
7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
9 And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.

Gurucam
August 8th, 2017, 04:21 AM
Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death

The above says the following:

Humans can serve their own flesh or serve their own spirit. There are two options. No one can serve two masters:

Matthew: 6 King James Version (KJV)
24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God (spirit and Spirit) and mammon (flesh).

John: 4 King James Version (KJV)
24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet

When people are 'in the flesh' they are held under the 'thou shall not covet' commandment and they bring forth only fruits onto death. These cannot inherit God's kingdom of heaven. They bring forth the wrong fruits.

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.

However when humans become awakened to/aware of, their own hearts/spirits they can and must drop and transgress the thou shall not covet commandments so as to serve in the newness of their own spirits/hearts. The they bring forth only fruits onto God and are inline to inherit God's kingdom of heaven. They bring forth the right fruits:

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.

Matthew: 21 King James Version (KJV)
43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof

The 'thou shall not covet' commandment killeth (i.e. it makes one 'the dead' who cannot follow Jesus). Not only are the dead not given to follow Jesus, those who follow Jesus are instructed to let the dead bury their dead':

Matthew: 8 King James Version (KJV)
22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.

One who discern wisdom in, esteem, uses, invokes and/or promote the thou shall not covet commandment is or becomes, 'the dead':

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.

1. The first kind of people: One who discern wisdom in, esteem, uses, invokes and/or promote the thou shall not covet commandment brings forth fruits onto death (these include children of the flesh, like Ishmael).

These people inevitably sin, fall short of the glory of God. When they and their off springs die physically, they stay with their dead physical bodies and are buried inside the earth, in hell with satan:

Romans: 3 King James Version (KJV)
19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

2. the other kind of people: On the other hand, one who is awakened to/aware of his own spirit body is not in the flesh is no longer in 'the flesh'. When such a one transgress the thou shall not covet commandment so as to serve his own spirit he bring forth only fruits onto God (these include children of God, like Isaac).

These are the chosen few. Only these are Christians. When these people and their off springs die, they all rise out their dead physical bodies, clad only in their spirit bodies. Then in three days they rise, clad only in their spirit bodies, to be like angels in heaven. These people differs in no way from the Lord Jesus Christ (except that he is lord of all):

Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
1 Now I say, That the heir, as long as he is a child, differeth nothing from a servant, though he be lord of all;
2 But is under tutors and governors until the time appointed of the father

That is, in three days Christians (the chosen few) go directly to the mansion in God's house which Jesus when to prepare for them.

John: 14 King James Version (KJV)
2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

The above defines the bases of Jesus sword of separation. Separation is between those who transgress the thou shall not covet commandment so as to serve in the newness of spirit (i.e. the new spirit and Spirit covenant) and those who remained under the old flesh covenant and continue to esteem, use, invoke and promote the thou shall not covet commandment.

1. The former is to transgress the thou shall not covet commandments so as to serve one's spirit while one soweth to Spirit. This is to be heaven bound. This is the second convent: "Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all" Christians are born under this covenant. Isaac and his generations are born under this covenant.

2. The latter is to soweth to flesh while discerning wisdom in, esteeming, using, invoking and promoting the ten commandments which killeth. This is to be hell bound. This is the first covenant: "the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar. For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children." All O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments people are born under this covenant. Ishmael and his generations are born under this covenant.

The first one # 1. above, is linked to delivery to hell. The secondly one # 2. above, is linked to delivery to heaven.

Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.
23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.
24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.
25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.
26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

Gurucam
August 8th, 2017, 06:47 AM
Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
1 Now I say, That the heir, as long as he is a child, differeth nothing from a servant, though he be lord of all;
2 But is under tutors and governors until the time appointed of the father

Notice that those who are called to be Christians and are actual Christians are not under popes, pastors, bishops priests etc.

Those who are called to be Christians and are actual babes in Christ (i.e. the chosen few) are under tutors and governors. Adults in Christs are on their own.

Tutors and governors are totally different from popes, pastors, bishops priests etc..

Tutors and governors anchor and belong to the N.T./spirit and Spirit/Jesus/Christian/eternal life/delivery to heaven tradition.

Popes, pastors, bishops priests etc. anchor and belong to the O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments/canons/flesh and blood/'the dead'/sin/delivery to hell tradition.

These define the two covenants that separates Abraham's generations and those who use the O.T. and the N.T.

Jesus came to make a separation between these two sets and types of people:

Matthew: 10 King James Version (KJV)
34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

Gurucam
August 8th, 2017, 07:05 AM
Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

Acts: 13 King James Version (KJV)
39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.

Matthew: 22 King James Version (KJV)
14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

Matthew: 24 King James Version (KJV)
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.

Notice that, not only the chosen, but all those who are called to be Christians (i.e. all N.T. people) are justified to do the things that those O.T. people were not and are not, justified to do under ten commandments.

The called and chosen are those people who were 'the dead' (i.e. killeth under the thou shall not covet commandment) but have now become converted. To be converted is to awaken to or become aware of one's own heart/spirit.

The converted are not yet healed by Jesus. They have simply passed a first requirement. They have simply become awakened to/aware of their own hearts/spirits. They are simply qualified to be healed by Jesus. By ceasing to be the dead, by becoming spiritually aware, they have actualized their spirit faculties which enable them to be healed by Jesus.

Being healed by Jesus happens through one's own heart/spirit (not through one's flesh). One must be awaken to or become aware of one's own heart/spirit before one can move into the healing by Jesus step.

Healing by Jesus can be accomplished only by spiritually aware people (i.e. people whose heart/spirit are no longer waxed gross). This cannot be accomplished by 'the dead'. The dead are people whose heart/spirit are waxed grossed/covered over. 'The dead' include all who discern wisdom in, esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments which killeth (i.e. the ten commandments makes one 'the dead', i.e. the ten commandments makes one's heart/spirit waxed gross/covered over:

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.

Healing by Jesus occurs when spiritually aware people
1. search their own hearts/spirit and discern the Spirit of Jesus within their own heart/spirit. And
2. by doing no 1 above, come to know precisely what this Spirit of Jesus has in mind for each of them to know, pray for, say and do. And
3. are led unconditionally into all their works by only and precisely what this Spirit of Jesus has in mind for each of them to know, pray for, say and do, and
4. do the above even if they have to transgress the ten commandments, canons and all other similar ideals and laws.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

Healing by Jesus cannot be had by those who discern wisdom in, esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments. These are the dead who are given to bury their dead. The ten commandments killeth. The ten commandments makes one 'the dead', i.e. the ten commandments makes one's heart/spirit waxed gross/covered over:

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.

The dead must become converted before they can follow Jesus and be healed by Jesus:

Matthew: 13 KJV N.T.
15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

Matthew: 8 King James Version (KJV)
22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.

Until the dead are converted, they are held under the ten commandments which killeth, any way.

At any even if 'the dead' do not become converted in this life they do not deserve to enter and inherit God's kingdom of heaven. They deserve hell, inside the earth, with Satan . . . and so be it.

This is the message in Jesus' instruction: 'let the dead bury their dead'.

Hebrews: 9 King James Version (KJV)
27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment

Only by following Jesus does one go to heaven.

John: 14 King James Version (KJV)
2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

By following Moses ideas one goes to that other place.

Moses' mission was not to bring truth, grace, the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven, Christ and/or delivery to heaven.

John: 1 King James Version (KJV)
17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

However have no doubt, Moses served his God given mission and he went to heaven. However those who got the ten commandments were not destine to go to heaven. They were not ready for that big step. Only when the first few of them were ready (had the necessary actualization) Jesus came on the scene (just 2000 odd years ago) to bring truth, grace, the mysteries to God's kingdom of heaven and Christ (for the first time) to those chosen few from among the masses of O.T. people.

Up to this day the N.T,/Jesus/spirit and Spirit/truth/grace/the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven/Christ/Christianity/liberty, freedom, justification and instructions to transgress the ten commandments/entry to God's kingdom of heaven are only for (and benefited only) the chosen few from among the billions who in some way or the other use the O.T. and/or the N.T.

Gurucam
August 8th, 2017, 10:19 AM
Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.

Hope that you all are clear on the fact that the 'thou shall not covet' commandments which was ordained to life, was found to be unto death. It killeth. It made one 'the dead'.

"when the commandment (the thou shall not covet commandment) came, sin revived, and I died"

. . . the very sad and unfortunate part is, 'the dead' are not given by God to follow Jesus.

Matthew: 8 King James Version (KJV)
22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.

You are totally wasting your precious time by esteeming, using, invoking and/or promoting the thou shall not covet commandments while foolishly and misguidedly believing that you are following Jesus. This is the purely freaky thing that a billion strong traditional Christians seem to be doing.

Is there any wonder why many are called and only a few chosen?

Gurucam
August 8th, 2017, 10:48 AM
The converted are 'dead to' & 'delivered from' the thou shall not covet' commandment. It is done-away-with for them.

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.

"when the commandment (the thou shall not covet commandment) came, sin revived, and I died"

A billion strong traditional Christians foolishly and erroneously believe that the 'thou shall not covet' commandment was or is an eternal law from God. They refuse to accept the revelation in the Holy KJV N.T. which says that the thou shall not covet commandments, came with Moses and that Moses gave that law and not God:

John: 1 King James Version (KJV)
17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

A billion strong traditional Christians refuse to accept this revelation from the Holy KJV N.T. which says, that truth and grace came with Jesus Christ.

They refuse to believe that Moses lied by omission. Moses did not use great plainness of speech when he delivered the 'thou shall not covert' commandments to the Jews. He did not tell them that the thou shall not covet commandment was for temporal use and must eventually be done-away-with:

2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
12 Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech:
13 And not as Moses, which put a veil over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:

Indeed, the 'thou shall not covet' commandment is done-away-with for those who can serve in the newness of spirit. These are converted people. They are 'dead to' and 'delivered from', the thou shall not covet commandment. They are instructed to ignore and transgress the 'thou shall not covet commandment' so as to serve in the newness of spirit:

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

The 'converted' are 'dead to' and 'delivered from', the thou shall not covet' commandment.

The ministration of dead that were written in stone were meant to be temporarily glorious. They were to be done-away-with.

2 Corinthians: 3 kjv n.t.
6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:

Gurucam
August 8th, 2017, 11:46 AM
1. Are you willing to continue to keep your spouse locked into a spiritless and loveless union with you by invoking the 'thou shall not covet' commandment?

This is to soweth to flesh and reap corruption. This is to bring forth only fruits onto death (as your off springs) and this cannot and does not please Jesus or God.

This is also to esteem, use, invoke and promote the thou shall not covet commandment and become and stay 'the dead'.

To do the above is to savor the things of man (and flesh and earth) and not the things of God (i.e. spirit and Spirit and heaven).

This to sacrifice/exchange your eternal life in God's kingdom of heaven, for a few short (i.e. 70 to 100 years) of physical comfort on the surface of earth and eventual delivery to hell (for eternity?).

If you do the above you soweth to flesh and reap corruption. You are Satan/achild of the flesh and not a child of God.

2. Are you wiling to ignore and transgress the 'thou shall not covet' commandments so as to serve your own spirit in harmony with the Holy Spirit?

Are you also willing to encourage your spouse to leave your marriage if your marriage is spiritless and loveless? In this circumstance, are you also willing to let you spouse freely, liberally and justly go to new mates that are according to the urging of his/her own spirit?

The above is how one serves spirit and soweth to Spirit and reap eternal life and entry to God's kingdom of heaven.

This is how one stop bringing forth fruits onto death as one's off-springs and instead bring forth only fruits onto God as one's off-springs. This pleases both Jesus and God.

If you do the above things then you are sacrificing your earthly temporal life and earthly comforts in exchange for an eternity in God's kingdom of heaven.

You are also savoring the things of God (i.e. spirit and Spirit) and not the things of man (flesh and earth things)

If you do the above you soweth to Spirit and reap eternal life. You are not Satan/a child of the flesh but a child of God.

Matthew: 16 King James Version (KJV)
22 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.
23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.

Satan is any human who savor the things of man, instead of the things of God.

Peter was identified to be Satan because he was trying to have Jesus save His physical life instead of loosing/sacrificing His physical life so as to gain eternal life in God's kingdom of heaven, in the spirit realm, as the Lord in heaven.

After being with Jesus for so long Peter had remained 'the dead'. Therefore he totally missed the Christian/'spirit and Spirit'/eternal life in God's kingdom of heaven, idea and concept. It was totally over his head' Peter remained a Jew. He did not cease being a Jew and became a Christian. He was not 'converted'. Indeed, he remained 'the dead'.

'The dead' are also called Satan. Peter was given a church befitting that satanic/'spiritually dead' status. As Satan/the dead, Peter was given a church for 'the dead'. The following describes Peter and defines his church:

1 Corinthians: 5 King James Version (KJV)
5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

The ten commandments (and canons, as added by Peter & Co)) are geared to serve, save, regulate and preserve one's physical life on earth. This is service to mammoth. The ten commandments and canons literally killeth spiritual life, which is basis of savoring the things of God (i.e. spirit and Spirit things).

Peter's church is highly materialistic and earthly. That church killeth spiritual awareness in their charges. It does not save the spirit of many or any who come to them.

The sad fact is Peter's/Satanic/'the dead' influences and ideas were not limited to the Catholic church. These also reached well into the billion strong traditional Christians.

Peter & Co. were serious dooms to Christianity. There was and is nothing Christian about Peter and his church. However they seemed to have ruled over Christianity, as false prophets, for the past 2000 odd years.

Their rule has come to an end . . . they always were and continue to be, hell bound.

Paul was the vicar of Christ. Paul was unjustly ousted by Peter/Satan.

Now Jesus is as strong on the surface of earth, as he was and continue to be, in the spirit realm. Jesus' kingdom is now of this world. The following has changed:

John 18:36King James Version (KJV)
36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.

Peter & Co. will be teleported, through black hole portals, in the twinkling of an eye, to alternative, far less pleasant accommodations, in another dimension, that is totally befitting their entanglement. The fullness of time is at hand.

This is truth in the fullness of time. A confirmation that we are indeed, in the fullness of time.

Ephesians: 3 King James Version (KJV)
16 That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man;
17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,
18 May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;
19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.

The above describes a system of spiritual communication, between humans and Jesus, which transcends time and space. It operates between and through the spirit of converted people and the Spirit of Jesus.

This mode of communication has grown very powerful.

The above is now powerfully 'on line', through consciousness. The above is functioning very powerful in many parts of the surface of earth, among very many individuals.

Jesus is now very empowered on the surface of earth and He is here to stay and to rule.

All false Christians are endangered and will be teleported out of here. Billions who erroneously/misguidedly perceive that they are Christians and/or some how chosen, are seriously jeopardized.

All law based traditions are seriously in danger. Spirit based traditions are different.

Only authentic Christians will be chosen and they are a few.

The kingdom of God will be taken from O.T. and N.T. people and given to other nations who brought forth fruits onto God. There are billions in this O.T. and N.T. catchment. Only a few are authentic Christians who brought forth the correct fruit:

Matthew: 21 King James Version (KJV)
43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.

Actual spirit based nations/traditions will have far greater yield of people being relevant to the rule of Jesus, on earth. These nation do not have a 'seen' connection to Jesus and Christianity. Their connection is 'not seen.

These other traditions and nations have nothing to do with the O.T. or the N.T.. However they are connected because their approach to life is essentially spiritual and Christian but not known or materially recognized to be Christian or called Christianity.

There will be great and grave surprises and disappointment on earth.

These surprises and disappointments have already stared.

The recent Brexit vote in Brittan and the recent U.S.A. Presidential elections and the serious disappointment of Ms. Clinton and Mr Obama testify to these unprecedented changes. Clearly the old are loosing their strangle hold. The Old is dying to give way to the New.

musterion
August 8th, 2017, 01:11 PM
The life we now have flows down from Him, its fountain and source, into our souls. “Because I live, you will live also” John 14:19, are His own words to us. Our response is: “Christ – is our life” Col. 3:4. This is the great soul-delivering truth of God. He does not see us in our old nature any more. He is done with that and sees us only in the new life we have in Christ. And He has given us His Spirit to dwell in us, to develop His new life in us and to give us His power over sin.

So Christ is the answer to all of our struggles. We must stop trying to overcome the sinful tendencies of our old nature in our own strength and begin to let Him work in us that deliverance and victory over sin we so much long for. Likewise, we have no power to produce fruit, even though in our new nature we long to do so. What relief from our misery when we come to the end of ourselves and begin to trust Him. When we realize our powerlessness and look to the Lord, He gives victory over sin and produces fruit that brings joy and peace.

Gurucam
August 9th, 2017, 12:36 AM
Salvation and deliverance to heaven are not free for all.

One is expected to bring forth the correct fruit.

There is a judgment, for each person, in the spirit realm, after he or she physically dies.

Hebrews: 9 King James Version (KJV)
27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment

This judgment is based on what one soweth to while one physically lived on earth.

Galatians: 6 King James Version (KJV)
7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
9 And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.

Entry to and inheriting God's kingdom of heaven is based on the kind of fruit that one brought forth while one was physically alive on earth:

Matthew: 21 King James Version (KJV)
43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.

Only those who bring forth fruits onto God can and do go to and inherit God's kingdom of heaven. Those who bring forth fruits onto death are cast out.:

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.

Humans have infirmities. They do not know what to pray for, say and do. However the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession was provided to help:

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
26 Likewise the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession) also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession) itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession), because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

Jesus did not give anyone His Spirit. He simply made His Spirit available. One must search one's own heart/spirit to access and use this Spirit of Jesus.

And one must be led into all of one's works by precisely what this Spirit of Jesus has in mind for one to know, pray for say and do (as discerned within one's own heart/spirit), in order to reap any benefit from this Spirit of Jesus. This is how one acquires the mind/spirit of Jesus.

One is required to have the capacity to search one's own heart or spirit before one can even attempt communion with the Spirit of Jesus within one's own heart/spirit.

In order to have the capacity to search one's own heart/spirit one must cease being 'the dead' and become spiritually aware. That is one must become awakened to/aware of one's own heart/spirit. One must be 'converted'.

The above works have to be done in order to be saved and delivered to God's kingdom of heaven. Simply repeating salutations to and slogans about, Jesus and God counts for very little, if any thing:

Matthew: 7 King James Version (KJV)
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

The only way to do the will of the Father who is in heaven is to be led into all of one's works by precisely what this Spirit of Jesus has in mind for one to know, pray for say and do as discerned within one's own heart/spirit.

What the Spirit of Jesus has in mind for one to know, pray for say and do as discerned within one's own heart/spirit is a perfect amalgam of the following two things:

1. 'groaning which cannot be uttered' (this relates to things in one's own heart/spirit and serving one's own spirit)
2. 'the will of God' (this relates to soweth-ing to Spirit)

'groaning which cannot be uttered' are the ideas, beliefs, interests, needs desires and aspiration which are the fabric of one's own heart/spirit.

When one is led into all of one's works by precisely what this Spirit of Jesus has in mind for one to know, pray for say and do as discerned within one's own heart/spirit one serves one's own spirit and soweth to Spirit (i.e. do the will of the living God) in perfect harmony.

The ideas is to serve one's own spirit while soweth-ing to Spirit, in perfect harmony.

The Spirit of Jesus is different for each person. What the Spirit of Jesus has in mind for each person to know, pray for, say and do is unique for each person. This constitute the impersonal Spirit of Jesus. For each person the Spirit of Jesus is a perfect amalgam of what is in that person's heart/spirit and the will of the living God.

Gurucam
August 9th, 2017, 01:13 AM
The new covenant (i.e. Christianity) is anchored on transgressing the ten commandments so as to do the following two things, unconditionally, in perfect harmony:
1. serving one's own spirit
2. soweth-ing to Spirit.

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.

Galatians: 6 King James Version (KJV)
7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
9 And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.

Serving one's own spirit/heart while one soweth to Spirit, in perfect harmony, is made possible when one is led into all of one's works ( in real time, all the time) by precisely what the impersonal Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/ Spirit of Intercession has in mind for one to know, pray for, say and do, as discerned within one's own heart/spirit (in real time all the time), even if one has to transgress the ten commandments.

The above is the literal essence of:

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
26 Likewise the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession) also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession) itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession), because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

1 Corinthians: 15 King James Version (KJV)
35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

The Spirit of Jesus is Jesus clad only in His Spirit body, 'seated' on his throne of glory, on the right side of the Holy Spirit, in spirit heaven, in God's kingdom of heaven that is within our human hearts/spirits:

Ephesians: 3 King James Version (KJV)
16 That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man;
17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,
18 May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;
19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.

In that format and from that place Jesus is ready willing and able to make intercession on behalf of humans according to the Will/Spirit of God.

To have communion with and derive any benefit from this Spirit Jesus, one must search one's own heart/spirit and discern and be led by precisely what the Spirit of Jesus has in mind for one to know, pray for, say and do, in real time all the time.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
26 Likewise the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession) also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession) itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession), because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

A billion strong traditional Christians believe that parroting a particular slogan about Jesus will save and deliver them. They believe that that is all they need to do. They ignore the above. They seem to recognize no value in the rest of the Holy KJV N.T.

They ignore and deny the following warning:

Matthew: 22 King James Version (KJV)
14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

Matthew: 24 King James Version (KJV)
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

Matthew: 7 King James Version (KJV)
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

They do not care to recognize that salvation, eternal life and deliverance to God's kingdom of heaven is for the few, the chosen few and a billion traditional Christians (who all share the same idea) are very far from 'a few'.

They have gone about their own righteousness, leaving aside the righteousness of authentic Christianity. They are all marching themselves to a sad and uncomfortable place.

Gurucam
August 9th, 2017, 04:23 AM
There are just two covenants and they are totally different::

Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.
23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.
24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; 1.) the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.
25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.
26 2.) But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

Ishmael was born under the first covenant. He was a child of the flesh.

Isaac was born under the second covenant. He was a child of promise/child of the Spirit/child of God.

Only Isaac and his generations are heirs to God's kingdom of heaven.

Ishmael and his generations are cast out.

Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.

The persecution of children of children of promise/children of the Spirit/children of God/Christians/N.T. people by children of the flesh/O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments/Jewish people was not expect to stop:

"But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now."

Also this separation and delivery to either hell or heaven did not stop with Ishmael and Isaac. It continue to this day, as follows:

Romans: 9 King James Version (KJV)
7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.

Luke 13 KJV N.T.
23 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.

A billion strong traditional Christians erroneously believe that both covenants are the same and result in the same end. Fact is:

Matthew: 21 King James Version (KJV)
43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.

'Fruits thereof' are fruits onto God and include children of God, like Issac. One must transgress the thou shall not covet commandments (the first covenant) so as to serve one's own spirit unconditionally, in order to bring forth this kind of fruit that relates to the second covenant, i.e. "the Jerusalem that is free and above (in spirit heaven)".

Those who esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the 'thou shall not covet' commandments bring forth only fruits onto death (these include children of the flesh, like Ishmael). God's kingdom is taken from these people and their children and given to those others who transgress the 'thou shall not covet' commandments so as to serve their own spirits and so, bring forth only fruits onto God, (these include children of God, like Isaac)

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

Gurucam
August 9th, 2017, 06:14 AM
Hebrews: 9 King James Version (KJV)
27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

1. When you face your judgement after physical death, will it be recorded against you that you esteemed, used, invoked and/or promoted the 'thou shall not' covet' commandment (while you physically lived) and therefore brought forth only fruits onto death which include your off-springs who would have been only children of the flesh, like Ishmael? OR

2. When you face your judgement after physical death, will it be recorded against you that you transgressed the 'thou shall not covet' commandments, so as to serve your own spirit/heart and therefore you brought forth only fruits onto God which include you off-sprigs who would have been, only children of God, like Isaac.

Galatians: 6 King James Version (KJV)
7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
9 And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.

What account of your soweth-ing will be recorded after your name?

Would it be recorded that you esteemed, used, invoked and/or promoted the ten commandments and was killeth, i.e. you became 'the dead' who bury their dead and could not follow Jesus OR

Would it be recorded that you throw out and transgress the ten commandments because they killeth and instead you transgressed the thou shall not covet' commandment so as to serve your own spirit in harmony with the Spirit of God?

For the ten commandments killeth where as the Spirit giveth life.

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.

Gurucam
August 9th, 2017, 06:55 AM
John: 1 King James Version (KJV)
17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

Truth and grace cannot be separated. They are always held together by Christians.

1. 'Truth' represent one's own truth which are the ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirations which are the fabric of one's own spirit. These create and sustain groaning which one cannot utter in a carnal world. 'Truth' is unique in every one. Truth is as unique in each person as dna. One cannot deny one's own truth which is the fabric of one's own spirit. Therefore one cannot deny one's own spirit and one cannot deny the fabric of one's own heart/spirit.

One gains entry to earth in a human physical body, under grace of God, so as to express and materialize the ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirations that one loves in one's own heart/spirit. It is because the ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirations that one loves in one's own heart/spirit were relevant to the ongoing Will/Spirit of God, that one was permitted to be born on earth, in a human physical body.

The sad problem is that when some children are born they are derailed from this preordained spirit motivated mission. They are put under laws (like the ten commandments) which killeth their spiritual awareness and so bury their spirit-motivated, preordained, spirit and Spirit mission.

Christianity is an art and science geared to return 'the dead' to spiritual awareness and so to awaken them to their preordained divine mission (which is in held in latency within their covered-over hearts/spirits) and so have them drop their locally acquired mammoth agenda. And so return them to serving their preordained spirit and Spirit, divine mission.

The above relate to transgressing the thou shall not covet commandments so as to serve one's own spirit. This is the essential purpose of God's creation. No expression or materialization of the things in one's spirit is forbidden in any manner. Indeed all things that are related to one's spirit, are possible and permitted. However this must be done in harmony with the Will/Spirit of God.

2. 'Grace' is to be under the Will/Spirit of God. This relates to soweth-ing to Spirit.

Christianity is the art and science of putting the above, two things, together in perfect harmony. This is achieved by the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession:

Matthew: 19 King James Version (KJV)
26 But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.

What the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession has in mind for one to know, pray for, say and do is a perfect amalgam of:
1. truth (i.e. one own truth which are ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirations which are the fabric of one's own spirit and
2. the will of God which bring one onto grace.

The above is literally to transgress the ten commandments so as serve one's own spirit while soweth-ing to Spirit, in perfect harmony. These are the two pillars of Christianity. This is truth and grace.

This is what Jesus brought and made possible for those who follow him:

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
26 Likewise the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession) also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession) itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession), because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

One has to literally dismiss and trample on, the old covenant which Moses gave in order to embrace and use the New covenant which Jesus brought. And which operates through His Spirit.

Have no doubt the old covenant (the O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments/delivery to hell covenant) killeth. Only the New covenant (the N.T./spirit and Spirit/Jesus/Christian/transgressing the ten commandment/delivery to heaven covenant) giveth life.

The ten commandments are the ministration of death. They are done away for those who are led by the Spirit of Jesus:

2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:
17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

The Spirit of Jesus is totally impersonal. It is literally what this Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession has in mind for each person to know, pray for, say and do, as discerned within one's own heart/spirit. This is literally the 'mind of Christ'.

Since truth is unique in each person as his/her DNA. The Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession is also unique for each person as his or her DNA. That is, what what this Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession has in mind for each person to know, pray for, say and do, as discerned within one's own heart/spirit is unique for each person.

Christianity transcends and do away with, collective generalized guidance (as done under the O.T./ten commandments) and introduces the most informed and profoundly intricate individualized human guidance, on earth.

The above is how God's kingdom of heaven is brought to the surface of earth.

Gurucam
August 9th, 2017, 08:03 AM
The Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession is one and the same Spirit. This Spirit is totally impersonal. This Spirit was made available only after the crucifixion and rise to spirit heaven of the physical 'seen' and temporal son of man Jesus:

John: 16 King James Version (KJV)
7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

The physical, 'seen' flesh and blood, earthly, son of man Jesus was temporal and he was not the Lord from or in heaven.

The Spirit, 'not seen', Son of God Jesus is eternal and He is the Lord from and in, heaven. This is the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession. This is the only Lord for Christians.

1 Corinthians: 15 King James Version (KJV)
35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
26 Likewise the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession) also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession) itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession), because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

The Lord for aspiring Christians and Christians is the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Jesus. This is the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession Who one must discern and commune with, within one's own heart/spirit.

Christians are only those people who are led into all their works (in real time. all the time) by precisely what this Spirit of Jesus has in mind for each of them to know, pray for, say and do, as discerned in real time, all the time, within each of their own hearts/spirits.

Billions of traditional Christians are 'want-to-be' Christians. However they err at the most elementary level. They are esteeming, using, invoking and/or promoting the physical, 'seen', earthly, flesh and blood and temporal, son of man, Jesus who is not the Lord in or from, heaven. Is there any wonder why many are called and few chosen?

Is there any doubt or can there be any doubt, that a billion strong traditional Christians have been grossly and gravely misled (either wittingly or unwittingly) by false prophets who came in Jesus' name. And these false prophets are operating from the highest core and from all other levels of their tradition?

. . . clearly tthe billion strong traditional Christianity is ruled by foolish, uninformed, unawares, 'false brethren' people who are 'the dead'.

These rulers are the very same people who are not given (not called or qualified) to even follow Jesus.

Matthew: 8 KJV N.T.
22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.

Gurucam
August 9th, 2017, 10:44 AM
One gains entry to earth in a human physical body, only under grace of God. It is not arbitrary.

One gains entry to earth in a human physical body, under grace of God, so as to express and materialize the ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirations that one loves in one's own heart/spirit.

It is because the ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirations that one loves in one's own heart/spirit were relevant to the ongoing Will/Spirit of God, that one was permitted to be born on earth, in a human physical body.

The sad problem is that when some children are born they are derailed from this preordained spirit motivated mission. They are put under laws (like the ten commandments) which killeth their spiritual awareness and so bury their spirit-motivated, preordained, spirit and Spirit mission.

Christianity is an art and science geared to return 'the dead' to spiritual awareness and so awaken them to their preordained divine mission (which is in held in latency within their covered-over hearts/spirits) and so have them drop their locally acquired mammoth agenda. And so return them to serving their preordained spirit and Spirit, divine mission.

It is a grave sin and very dangerous for one to abandon one preordained spirit and Spirit based mission so as to serve the ideas and laws of mammoth which include the ten commandments and the likes. The ten commandments were given by Moses, not God:

John: 1 King James Version (KJV)
17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ

This is terminally dangerous because mammoth laws like the ten commandments killeth. That is such ideas and laws makes one 'the dead'.

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.

'The dead' are not aware of their own spirit. They are also not aware of the Spirit of God. When they die physically they remain totally unaware. They are literally dead in the spirit realm. They cannot and do not rise out of their dead physical bodies, clad only in their spirit bodies. Therefore they cannot and do not rise to spirit heaven, in three days, to be like angels in heaven. Instead they remain unaware in their dead physical bodies and are dragged into the earth with their dead physical body, into hell, with Satan.

In this state Jesus does not know them and they have no communion with God. They are lost souls.

It is therefore critical for those who became 'the dead' by esteeming, using, invoking and/or promoting the ten commandments, to become spiritually aware (again) and therefore awaken to their preordained spirit and Spirit divine mission and drop and transgress the ten commandments so as to serve their own spirit in harmony with the Will/Spirit of God.

This is Christianity which is your only deliverance from being 'the dead' who gets buried inside the earth, in hell, with Satan, when you die, physically.

Billions who esteem, used, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments while they lived on earth, became and stayed 'the dead'. They accrued sin, fell short of the glory of God and when they died, physically, they were delivered to hell inside the earth, with Satan. You do not have to follow this path.

The other option is to rise in three days after physical death, to be like angels in heaven. This is the Christian path. It requires one to transgress the ten commandment so as to serve one's own spirit in harmony with the Holy Spirit.

However, even after our best try, only a few will heed, embrace and adopt the authentic Christian path:

Matthew: 22 King James Version (KJV)
14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

Matthew: 24 King James Version (KJV)
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

Matthew: 7 King James Version (KJV)
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

The above are prophesies of Jesus. These prophesies cannot be changed . . . therefore, So be it.

My spirit and Spirit based, preordained divine mission is to be a teacher and governor for the now unfolding age of enlightenment in Christ. My handle 'gurucam' is not simply picked arbitrarily. It defines my calling, according to my preordained spirit and Spirit divine mission:

Galatians: 4 King James Version (KJV)
1 Now I say, That the heir, as long as he is a child, differeth nothing from a servant, though he be lord of all;
2 But is under tutors and governors until the time appointed of the father.

My guru (teacher) status was discerned by a spiritual master and the description (guru) was added to my name, in the very first days after my birth. These are my credentials.

My posts and threads here is according to my mission in the body of Christ, under grace of God. I am informed and guided intuitively and directly by the Spirit of Jesus, through my own heart/spirit:

Ephesians: 3 King James Version (KJV)
16 That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man;
17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,
18 May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;
19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.

These posts and threads are my service to my divine preordained, spirit and Spirit based mission.

This will earn me an even higher and more divine post in God's kingdom of heaven, generally, in the spirit realm. And an even greater and higher position in Jesus' kingdom in the spirit realm.

My post and threads are relevant to God's current Agenda/Will/Spirit for the surface of earth at this current time. We are in the fullness of time.

This fullness of time comes to earth when the Spirit of Jesus is very empowered on the surface of earth. This cause God's kingdom of heaven to dawn on the surface of earth.

Through recent realignment of heavenly bodies the Spirit of Jesus became very empowered on the surface of earth. God's kingdom of heaven has reached the surface of earth.

Now purified Christianity is divinely required on earth. I am here to purify Christianity, now, in the fullness of time. My works (i.e. my post and threads etc.) is the final and pure gospel of truth and grace that is being published in all lands.

Do not (continue to) latch onto Peter and the other disciples. They had and have, no position in Jesus kingdom in God's kingdom of heaven, in the Spirit realm.

Peter, his heirs, his descendants and his followers have earned and stored all their treasures on earth and none in heaven:

Matthew: 6 King James Version (KJV)
19 Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:
20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:
21 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.

The disciples failed Jesus.

Paul came from the outside and became the only one back then to become Christian, i.e. an authentic and live example of one in Christ, an authentic Christian.

The disciples did not make it. In particular, Peter was taken to a mountain top and tempted with earthly treasures which were displayed before him. He succumbed. He remained Satan and Jewish.

Matthew: 4 KJV N.T.
8 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;
9 And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me.

Jesus was tempted in the same manner. However Jesus knew that Peter was Satan and he identified Peter to be Satan.

Matthew: 16 King James Version (KJV)
22 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.
23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.

Jesus also knew that Peter would remain Satan because Jesus appointed Peter to anchor His Satanic church were 'the dead' were to be sent to have their spirit saved. This church was to remain active and relevant right up to the day of the Lord Jesus:

1 Corinthians: 5 King James Version (KJV)
5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

Jesus was tempted in the same manner. However Jesus was not Satan, like Peter. Jesus replied:

Matthew: 4 KJV N.T.
10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

Then,

Matthew: 4 KJV N.T.
11 Then the devil leaveth him, and, behold, angels came and ministered unto him.

Gurucam
August 10th, 2017, 02:02 AM
Ephesians: 3 King James Version (KJV)
16 That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man;
17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,
18 May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;
19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.

Daniel: 12 KJV.
4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

At the time of the end, many shall run to and fro. However knowledge will increase . . . because the Spirit of Jesus would have grown very powerful. Christ will pass knowledge much more powerfully and profoundly. And so, Saints would get from the Spirit of Jesus and comprehend, much more easily and readily, what is "the breadth, and length, and depth, and height"

This will happen in the day of the Lord Jesus would be at hand.

Indeed the day of the Lord Jesus is at hand because "the breadth, and length, and depth, and height" has surfaced and they are being published in all lands, now.

"the breadth, and length, and depth, and height" is the straight gate and narrow way.

However, I can post all I want, prophesy is, only a few are expected to find the straight gate and narrow way:

Matthew: 7 King James Version (KJV)
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Gurucam
August 10th, 2017, 06:16 AM
Notice that "the breadth, and length, and depth, and height" are not three dimensions. They are four dimensions. The forth dimension is space/tine. These open up to one who can and do commune with the Spirit of Jesus.

If my posts and threads are the "the breadth, and length, and depth, and height", according to:

Ephesians: 3 King James Version (KJV)
16 That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man;
17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,
18 May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;
19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.

Then they are also "the straight gate and narrow way", according to:

Matthew: 7 King James Version (KJV)
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

And since my post and threads are essentially increased knowledge that are actually literally the Holy KJV N.T., we must be in the day of the Lord Jesus:

Daniel: 12 KJV.
4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

However it is prophesied that only a few will find this "straight gate and narrow way". Therefore my posts and threads would not be the "straight gate and narrow way" if more than a chosen few read, accept and adopt my posts and threads.

If you are among the chosen few who read and discern wisdom in my posts and threads you and I might just be the actual chosen few. On the other hand if many read and discern wisdom in my posts and threads, then, it seems that we are all misled and doomed. It is just impossible for many to 'have it right'.

The sad fact is that truth which anchors salvation and delivery to God's kingdom of heaven is for, only, the chosen few:

Matthew: 22 King James Version (KJV)
14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

Matthew: 24 King James Version (KJV)
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

Matthew: 7 King James Version (KJV)
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Truth in the fullness of time is being offered on this forum, in my posts and threads. Truth in the fullness of time will come only as an impersonal offering. It will not be forced onto anyone.

Truth in the fullness of time is like the Spirit of Jesus. They are both impersonal. No one is forced to access, embrace and be led by, the Spirit of Jesus or by truth in the fullness of time.

The Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession is totally impersonal and simply offered. (There is nothing to debate)

John: 16 King James Version (KJV)
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

It is up to each human, who wants to follow Jesus (to be Christian), to seek out 'conversion' then search his/her own (no longer waxed gross/covered over) heart/spirit and achieve communion with this Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession within in his/her own heart/spirit. Then be led into all his/her individual works, unconditionally, by precisely what this Spirit of Jesus has in mind for him/her to know, pray for say and do, as discerned within his/her own heart/spirit . . . even if he/she has to transgress the ten commandments and all other similar (religious) ideals and/or laws.

. . . and indeed, the above is exactly the same for "truth in the fullness of time". "truth in the fullness of time" is simply being offered, impersonally, at this point in time.

This is the only way that 'the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession' and truth can be and are, presented. They are always impersonal offerings, that are not debatable.

. . . actually it is a "take it or leave it" scenario, with these two. It always was so and always will be so.

A billion strong traditional Christians hold and practice the foolish and erroneous idea that they have the wits and right to debate these things. Again, I ask, is there any wonder why many are called and few chosen.

A billion strong traditional Christians are modern, 'know-it-all ego driven people. They are self proclaimed Gods and Lords who correct the Holy KJV N.T. according to their own wisdom and own ideas. And live by and according to, their own 'damn' ideas. They do not subscribe to impersonally delivered knowledge, ideas and guidance from the 'the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession' and/or truth as discerned, even in their own private hearts/spirits. The totally deny the following and go about their own idea and righteousness:

John: 16 King James Version (KJV)
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

They deny their own inner knowing so as to adopt and use the dogma of other humans. They are totally dead to the following three most fundamental and literal Christian truths and ideals:

Ephesians: 3 King James Version (KJV)
16 That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man;
17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,
18 May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;
19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.

John: 1 King James Version (KJV)
17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ

Acts: 13 King James Version (KJV)
39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.

The ten commandments are the ideas and dogma of a human, Moses, not God. Those ideas and laws are for 'the dead'. This is the Christian position.

Christian ideas, knowledge and guidance are anchored on the Spirit of Jesus and God (the Holy Spirit) as defined literally in Ephesians: 3 verses: 16 to 19 of the KJV N.T., above.

Christian ideas, knowledge and guidance are not generalized, collective and 'one size fit all' (like the ten commandments). Christian ideas, knowledge and guidance are totally and precisely individualized (tailor-made) for each person (like DNA) and delivered to each person through his own heart/spirit

The instruction is very clear:

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.

The law above that one is 'delivered from ' 'so that one can serve one's spirit' is the 'thou shall not covet' commandment (a mammoth law):

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

Oh aspiring Christian, do not remain depraved and foolish. Drop out from that sad, unfortunate and totally misled pack of a billion strong (ten commandments/antichrist) traditional Christian, grouping.

Come on over and join the chosen few.

Gurucam
August 10th, 2017, 08:12 AM
Ephesians: 3 King James Version (KJV)
16 That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man;
17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,
18 May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;
19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.

Notice that "the breadth, and length, and depth, and height" are not three dimensions. They are four dimensions.

The first three dimensions define physicality/carnality. The fourth dimension is space/time (i.e. is the spirit dimension). The fourth dimension (space/time) opens up to one who can and do commune with the Spirit of Jesus . . . actually it opens up to 'converted' people, even before they are heal by Jesus through communion with and being led by, His Spirit.

When one can and do commune with the Spirit of Jesus through one's own heart/spirit one transcends the three dimension of physicality. One 'enters' the dimension of space/time. One becomes a "traveler" through space and time and literally witness Jesus' actual teachings live and direct from Him. This is describes, in the Holy KJV N.T. as: "That Christ may dwell in your hearts and the love of Christ, passeth knowledge" .

Jesus' teaching are about the spirit realm and spirit realities. And how those can be harmoniously expressed and materialized on the surface of earth:

John: 6 KJV N.T.
63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

Fact is, one who awakens to one's own spirit does not actually travel through space and time. It is more like the unchanging realities/concepts of space and time (i.e. the spirit reality) opens to one. There is no travel. There is only instant teleportation by simply moving one's attention where one care, which is generally the ideas of one's entanglement.

. . . kind of getting more weird, eh.

One who is stuck arguing about and/or justifying the relevance and details of the ten commandments and other aspects of the written scriptures, is so very very far from this truth and spirit based Christian concepts and ideas.

A billion strong traditional Christians put their 'unawares'/'spiritually dead'/carnal 'cap' (restriction) on all things, including actual Christianity which is spirit and spirit based and boundless.

Fact is the spirit dimension does not exist up or down or sideways as physical things do. 'Rising to heaven' does not quite describe the actual event/concept.

Physicality is three dimensional, i.e. length, breadth and height. The spirit dimension is a fourth dimension that cannot be expressed in physical terms, i.e. through physical hearing, physical touching, physical seeing, physical tasting and/or physical smelling.

The spirit dimension must be discerned through 'extra' physical senses. These are described as 'the eye to see', 'the ears to hear' and the heart to understand. This describes detecting and knowing things things through the intuitive faculties of one's spirit/heart.

The ten commandments killeth spiritual awareness and intuitive spiritual actualization. Those who discern wisdom in, esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments, even in the slightest manner are 'the dead', become 'the dead' and/or remain the dead':

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.

'The dead' cannot detect or discern the fourth dimension. They are quite literally 'dead to' the spirit reality and spirit realm where things of God can be known. They are only in 'the flesh' and they profit nothing from being simply in 'the flesh':

John: 6 KJV N.T.
63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

'The dead' must be 'converted' to spiritual awareness (i.e. awareness of their own heart/spirit) in order to actualize these intuitive/spiritual faculties. This is the message in:

Matthew: 13 KJV N.T.
15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

1 Corinthians: 2 KJV N.T.
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

The supposed wisest (and supposed highest) commentary of the billion strong traditional Christians about Christianity, is total unadulterated foolishness.

At best they are 'the dead' simply and unwittingly posturing/masquerading as Christians.

In Trinidad we have two days every year when our citizens are free to 'play mas', i.e. anyone can masquerade on our streets as any thing they want to represent. For example a medical doctor can dress up like the devil and play the devil all day long, for these two day.

However, the above fades in comparison to the billion strong traditional Christians who are in all reality O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments people simply masquerading as/'playing' N.T./Jesus/Christian people, every day, for all their sad and unfortunate lives.

We have a tradition in Trinidad among Catholics. Catholics who play mas on any or both of these two days go to church and get 'ashes' after repenting for playing mas' on any or both of these days.

The sad fact is that there is no forgiveness for the masquerading that the billion strong traditional Christians do. They unwittingly or otherwise soweth to flesh and inevitably reap corruption:

Galatians: 6 King James Version (KJV)
7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
9 And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.

To esteem, use, invoke and promote the ten commandments, even in the slightest manner, is to soweth to flesh and reap corruption. Esteeming, using, invoking and promoting the ten commandments is the 'wisdom' of only 'the dead' (i.e. spiritually dead people).

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

Gurucam
August 10th, 2017, 02:46 PM
John: 6 KJV N.T.
63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

The above conveys that it is one's spirit that 'quickeneth' (i.e. determines, creates and sustains) one's physical reality (including one's physical body).

One can do nothing profitable by operating through one own physical body, if one's spirit is not awakened and functioning.

It is a grave illusion to believe that one do 'profitable' things only through physical effort.

One physical body is simply an instrument and expression of one's own spirit, which is within one's physical body maintaining (using materials from earth) and driving one's physical body.

One's physical body is like a tool, (like a car). It takes the physical human to maintain (using localized/earthly materials) and drive the car to serve him.

To relate the above example to our physical body and spirit we get: one's own physical body is like a car and the maintainer and driver is our spirit. Our physical bodies are also maintained using local/earthly materials.

The physical body is nothing. It is like one's car which can be easily replaced according to new choices (new models). It is temporal.

However the important thing (the profitable one) is the owner and driver who is our spirit which is eternal. This spirit lives on and decides when to change our physical body and with what new model.

Christianity is anchored on using this earthly creation to loose the desire to want a physical body when one die so as to come back to this sad hellish earth.

Christianity is anchored in humans, going to God's kingdom of heaven, in the spirit realm, when one die . . . without any deep or other desire to return to earth in its current state.

For Christians, going to spirit heaven is not for a permanent stay. This stay is for as long as is necessary. The plan is one will eventually return to earth, in a very improved human physical body, in the fullness of time, when God's kingdom is established on earth.

God's kingdom is destine to be created and sustained on the surface of earth:

Matthew: 6 King James Version (KJV)
10 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.

Those who die as authentic Christians rise to and live very happily and comfortably in God's kingdom of heaven in the spirit realm until it is time to return to a new earth which is a physical/material replication of God's kingdom of heaven in the spirit realm.

For humans on earth this transformation takes thousand of years. However, for beings in the spirit realm, a thousand earth years is just one day.

Gurucam
August 10th, 2017, 07:36 PM
We are at that point when God's kingdom is forming on the surface of earth.

All people who were authentic Christians when they died had risen to God's kingdom of heaven in the spirit realm, clad only in their spirit bodies, three day after their physical death.

They stayed in God's kingdom of heaven, in the spirit realm, in the mansion in God's house which Jesus went ahead to prepare for them. Some were there longer than others.

For the past years, they have been returning to earth in new physical bodies as new born children of God. That is, they are normal humans but they were chosen a long time ago.

They are Spiritually gifted.

They are not the ordinary garden variety billion strong traditional 'Mosaic', flesh Christians.

Gurucam
August 11th, 2017, 05:47 AM
Ephesians: 3 King James Version (KJV)
16 That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man;
17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,
18 May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;
19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.

"to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man" and That Christ may dwell in your hearts inform us that our own spirit/heart (inner man) does not become the Spirit of Jesus.

The above tells us that the Spirit of Jesus resides within each of our own heart/spirit (i.e. within our own inner man) and strengthens our own heart/spirit.

The above tells us that the Spirit of Jesus resides within each of our own heart/spirit (i.e. within our own inner man), ready willing and able to make intercession for each of us with (not expressible) groaning in our own hearts/spirit according to the Will/Spirit of God:

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
26 Likewise the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession) also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession) itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession), because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

Christianity is about serving one's own spirit in perfect harmony with Holy Spirit.

The above is achieved when one is led into all of one's works by precisely what the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession has in mind for one to know, pray for, say and do, as discerned within each of our own hearts/spirit. And doing so even if one has to transgress the ten commandments and all similar religious ideals and laws.

The mission and service of the Spirit of Jesus is to be a precisely individualized Spirit for each person. The Spirit of Jesus is precisely different for each person. This Spirit is the Spirit of truth for each person. This Spirit must be reached and communed with by each person within each of their own hearts/spirits.

For each person, the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession is a perfect amalgam of:
1. the ideas beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirations which are the fabric of that person's own heart/spirit and
2. the precise Will/Spirit of God, as it relates to that person.

The Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession is perfectly impersonal when he comes-up with the above.

Gurucam
August 11th, 2017, 06:59 AM
Ephesians: 3 King James Version (KJV)
16 That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man;
17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,
18 May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;
19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.

The above tells us where the Spirit of Jesus resides. It tell us that the Spirit of Jesus is within each of our own heart/spirit (i.e. within our inner man).

We know from other revelations that when Jesus died physically, he rose to God's kingdom of heaven, in the spirit realm, in three days, clad only in his spirit body:

1 Corinthians: 15 King James Version (KJV)
35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

We are told also that God's kingdom is within each of us:

Luke: 17 King James Version (KJV)
20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

The above confirm that Jesus is currently clad only in his spirit body and he is on his throne of Glory, on the right side of the Holy Spirit, in God's kingdom of heaven and this kingdom is within each of our our own hearts/spirits.

In the above place, clad only in His Spirit body, Jesus is the Lord for all aspiring Christians, babes in Christs and adult Christians (on earth and elsewhere). And indeed this is where one will find Him.:

2 Corinthians: 3 King James Version (KJV)
17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

The above also tells us the Spirit of Jesus dwells in our own hearts/spirit to strengthen our own hearts/spirits.

We are told that God's kingdom of heaven will come to earth:

Matthew: 6 King James Version (KJV)
10 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.

God's kingdom of heaven is within each of our own hearts/spirits. God's kingdom of heaven is anchored on the ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirations which are the fabric of each of our own hearts/spirit, even if we have to transgress the ten commandments.

In totality the above tell us that when God's kingdom of heaven comes to the surface of earth, in the fullness of time, it would be the ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspiration which are the fabric of each of our strengthened hearts/spirit that will be established, materialized and rule on the surface of earth, in harmony with the Will/Spirit of God.

The ten commandments is a totally external man created system. They were given by Moses, not God:

John: 1 King James Version (KJV)
17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ

Also the ten commandments were confirmed to killeth our spirits.

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.

When God's kingdom of heaven comes to earth, the ten commandments will be banished from the surface of earth, together with all those who esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments, even in the slightest way.

God's kingdom of heaven is within our hearts/spirits. It is totally about the things within each of our own hearts/spirits.

The Spirit of Jesus dwells in each of our hearts/spirit with the aim of strengthening each of our own hearts/spirits and to make intercession with the Holy Spirit so that the things in our own hearts/spirits can be expressed and fulfilled on earth and elsewhere, with total God given freedom, liberty and justification. On the other hand the ten commandments killeth our hearts/spirits.

The Spirit of Jesus serves God. The ten commandments serves the devil.

It is the Spirit of Jesus who strengthens our spirits/hearts. The ten commandments killeth our spirits/hearts. When God's kingdom of heaven comes to earth, the ten commandments will, indeed, be banished from the surface of earth.

. . . do not let O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments people fool and misled you who seek to be Christians. Drop them, they will not stop falling until they reach well inside . . .

Gurucam
August 11th, 2017, 08:08 AM
Hebrews; 2 KJV N.T.
9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.
14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;

'Him' that has the power of death is the devil.

The thou shall not covet commandment killeth. It has the power of death:

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.

The ten commandments, which has the power of death, is the devil.

And Jesus came to destroy and do away with ten commandments which has the power of death and is the devil.

Hebrews; 2 KJV N.T.
9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.
14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

The above says, 'converted' people are 'dead to' and 'delivered from' the 'thou shall not covet' commandment so that they can transgress this commandment, so as to serve in the newness of their spirits.

The spirit of Jesus dwells in our hearts/spirit so as to strengthen and justify our spirits:

Ephesians: 3 King James Version (KJV)
16 That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man;
17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,
18 May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;
19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
26 Likewise the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession) also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession) itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession), because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

. . . do not let O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments people fool and misled you who seek to be Christians. Drop them, they will not stop falling until they reach well inside the earth, in hell, with Satan.

On the other hand, you who embrace authentic Christianity, will rise to be like angels in heaven.

Gurucam
August 11th, 2017, 08:45 AM
Do not be fooled. O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments people were not given by God to get or know, the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. They were never in the inner circle. They were not even called to Christianity.

One need these mysteries to enter God's kingdom of heaven. O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments people never got these mysteries and do not have it. They (O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments people) cannot enter God's kingdom of heaven. Also they cannot tell you anything about this subject.

According to the Holy KJV N.T., O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments people are under the ten commandments which killeth. Also everyone who esteems, uses, invokes and promote the ten commandments, even in the least manner, accrue sin, fall short of the glory of God and is eventually and inevitably delivered to hell, inside the earth, with Satan.

The mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven is not known to them.

The mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven came to those people, for the first time, with the advent of the physical Jesus on earth. And even then these mysteries were not widely delivered. These mysteries were given only to the disciples in private sessions among only them.

Everyone else were still kept in the dark. They were not given to get or know these mysteries. They were appeased and fooled-up with parables:

Colossians: 1 King James Version (KJV)
26 Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints:

In the above, his saints were the disciples.

Matthew: 13 KJV N.T.
10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
5 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

The mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven are the keys to and anchor of, Christianity.

The above is the Christian position. Those who seek to be authentic Christians (not make-believe 'traditional Christians') must accept and adopt the above truth.

Notice also that parables are no good for those seeking the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. Parables were given to fool-up and appease 'the dead' who were and continue to be, not given by God to get or know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven.

The mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven will be found only in those few deliveries which Jesus made to only His disciples, in very private sessions among only them.

. . . of course a billion strong traditional Christians, very routinely: esteem, use, invoke and promote, both the ten commandments and parables . . . what a sad state, indeed.

If one is 'the dead' one will do as 'the dead' do. And one will not follow Jesus.
. . . so be it.

Gurucam
August 11th, 2017, 12:23 PM
Isaac & his generation goes to heaven. Ishmael & his generation are cast out. Why?

The answer to the above question will light the path to your salvation and deliverance.

Matthew: 22 KJV N.T.
9 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.
30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.
31 But as touching the resurrection of the dead, have ye not read that which was spoken unto you by God, saying,
32 I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.

The above confirms that Ishmael and his generation are 'the dead' and indeed the ten commandments were found to be onto death.

Ishmael and his generation must be the Jews who remained Jews. And continue to esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments (which killeth)

On the other hand, Abraham, Isaac and Isaac's generation must be those Jews who cease being Jews, dropped and routinely transgress the ten commandments so as to serve spirit and Spirit and so became Christians.

Luke: 13 KJV N.T.
28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.

God is the God of Abraham, Issac and Isaac's generation.

God is not the God of Ishmael and his generation.

Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.
23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.
29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.

Romans: 9 King James Version (KJV)
7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.

What then is the difference between Issac and Ishmael? This question arises because Issac and his generation are the children of God and they go to God's kingdom of heaven where as Ishmael and his generation are the children of the flesh and they are cast out/thrust out of heaven.

The distinction is that Ishmael and Isaac were born under two different covenants.

Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.
23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.
24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.
25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.
26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

Ishmael was born under the first covenant: the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar. For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.

Isaac was born under the second covenant: Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

The first covenant is the O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments/killeth-ing/flesh based covenant. This covenant killeth:

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.

The second covenant is the N.T./'transgressing the ten commandments so as to serve spirit and Spirit/Jesus/Christian covenant. This covenant giveth life and is anchored on:

2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:

John: 14 King James Version (KJV)
2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God. (i.e. children of God, like Issac)
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death (i.e. children of the flesh, like Ishmael).
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

The first covenant was seriously flawed. It must be totally dropped and transgressed so as to serve spirit and Spirit. This is how one stops bringing forth 'children of the flesh', like Ishmael and start bringing forth 'children of God', like Isaac:

Hebrews: 8 KJV N.T.
7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.

Bottom line, children of the flesh, like Ishmael are 'law/flesh' children where as children of God, like Isaac are love/spirit children . . . whether or not they are born in or out of formal or any other kind of wedlock or procreative unions.

Children of the flesh are born to people who ignore love/spirit in favor of laws, like the ten commandments. Where as children of God are born to people who transgress laws like the ten commandments so as to serve love/spirit.

The former are 'the dead', i.e. people whose hearts/spirits are waxed gross.

The latter are people whose hearts/spirit are open and not covered over. They are spiritually aware and therefore ruled by spirit/love.

The former is exemplified by Shylock (a Jew) and the latter by Antonio (a Christian) in William Shakespeare's play, The merchants of Venice. It makes for good/informed reading.

The above is the Christian position, as stated in the Holy KJV N.T..

The Christian Holy book is the Holy KJV N.T. and not at all the O.T. or any other old manuscripts.

The Holy KJV N.T. says that only the Holy KJV N.T. contains the mysteries of and to, God's kingdom of heaven. There are no such mysteries in the O.T. or in any other old manuscripts etc.

Aspiring Christians would be very well advised to heed, embrace and adopt the above truths.

Gurucam
August 11th, 2017, 01:54 PM
Matthew: 22 KJV N.T.
9 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.
30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.
31 But as touching the resurrection of the dead, have ye not read that which was spoken unto you by God, saying,
32 I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.

The above confirms that Ishmael and his generation are 'the dead' and indeed the ten commandments were found to be onto death.

Ishmael and his generation must be the Jews who remained Jews. And continue to esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments (which killeth)

On the other hand, Abraham, Isaac and Isaac's generation must be those Jews who cease being Jews, dropped and routinely transgress the ten commandments so as to serve spirit and Spirit and so became Christians

The ten commandments were the ministration of death written in stone:

2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.

Gurucam
August 11th, 2017, 02:05 PM
Matthew: 22 KJV N.T.
9 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.
30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.
31 But as touching the resurrection of the dead, have ye not read that which was spoken unto you by God, saying,
32 I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.

Luke: 13 KJV N.T.
28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.

Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.
31 So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free.

God is the God of Abraham, Issac and Isaac's generation.

God is not the God of Ishmael and his generation.

Why?

God is not the God of the dead. And, indeed, Ishmael and his generation are 'the dead'.

Abraham, Isaac and Isaac's generation ceased being Jews and embraced Christianity which is anchored on transgressing the ten commandments so as serve one's own spirit in harmony with the Holy Spirit (i.e. the Spirit of God). Therefore God became their God.

On the other hand Ishmael and his generations remain Jews and continue to embrace, esteem, use, invoke and promote the ten commandments which were given by Moses. The ten commandments killeth. Therefore Ishmael and his generations are the dead. And their god continue to be Moses and not God, the Holy Spirit.

The ten commandments, which killeth, were given by Moses, not God:

John: 1 King James Version (KJV)
17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.

The above is the Christian position, as stated in the Holy KJV N.T..

Of course the Jews would like to deceive you into believing that they are of the generation of Isaac and the Moslem are the generation of Ishmael. According to our Holy KJV N.T., this is not correct.

Our Holy KJV N.T. says that both the Jews and the Moslem are of the generation of Ishmael. Both of them are O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments people.

Abraham, Isaac and the generations of Isaac are Christians. They are N.T./Jesus/Christian/transgressing the ten commandments so as to serve spirit and Spirit, people. They cease being Jews and became Christians . . . a long time ago:

Galatians: 3 KJV N.T.
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

The above says: "ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus"

Who are children of God? Only Christians are children of God.

Who, from among Abraham's generations, are children of God. Only Isaac and his generation:

Romans: 9 King James Version (KJV)
7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.

Read my posts and threads repeatedly and thoroughly. They are literally the Holy KJV N.T.. They are literally your passage to salvation and deliverance, now, in the fullness of time.

Dear, dear billion strong traditional Christians, do not continue to be informed and led by false prophets and unawares false spying brethren, who came to you, in Jesus' name. They plainly, cunningly, boldly and literally deceived you. You cannot be the chosen few. You are simply the great unsuspecting masses who these false prophets and false brethren willingly please, any which way, so that you will happily fill their coffers.

Matthew: 7 King James Version (KJV)
15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

The Jews are, in all reality, simply a sect very similar to the many sects among Moslem. They are all O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments people. They all claim allegiance to the O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments system. However, they all hold different views about the O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments system and they are all violently fighting each other, mostly based on ideological differences with respect to the O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments system.

Gurucam
August 11th, 2017, 03:21 PM
The Jews are, in all reality, simply a sect very similar to the many sects among Moslem. They are all O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments people. All in the same system.

They all claim allegiance to the O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments system. However, they all hold different views about the O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments system and they are all violently fighting each other, mostly based on ideological differences with respect to the O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments system.

Why indeed would aspiring Christians and Christians want to get involved in that fight? Christians are not at all O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments people. Christians do not seek their own vengeance. They do not fight. Christians are the chosen few who actually follow Jesus. They are instructed to let the dead bury their dead'.

Matthew: 8 King James Version (KJV)
22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.

Clearly O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments people are 'the dead' because the ten commandments killeth. They were found to be onto death:

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death

Instruction to Christians are as follows:

Romans: 12 King James Version (KJV)
19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.

Seems that aspiring Christians and babes in Christ, were duped by the Jews into getting into that fight which is about different sects of Old testament people violently fighting each other.

O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments people seem to lack all respect for N.T,/Christian/follow Jesus people:

Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
29 But as then he that was born after the flesh (i.e. O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments people) persecuted him that was born after the Spirit (N.T,/Christian/follow Jesus people), even so it is now.
30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.

Gurucam
August 11th, 2017, 08:36 PM
Do you guys esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments and/or parables?

The ten commandments and parables are both the same. They are both given for appeasing 'the dead' and for temporal use by 'the dead' until they become converted (awakened to their own heart/spirit). 'The dead' are not given to follow Jesus or to get the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven.

'The dead' are appeased, fool-up and managed with and under, the ten commandments and/or parables.

. . . or at worse, the ten commandments and/or parables, killeth and are therefore used to 'let the dead bury their dead' (inside the earth, in hell, with Satan).

Matthew: 13 KJV N.T.
10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

Do you guys realize that parables are given to people who are not given to know or get the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. Parable were given to take away what they have.

These people got parables because their 'heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed'. They are the spiritually dead, also called 'the dead'.

Parables are just like the ten commandments which killeth, i.e. make one 'the dead'.

Christians do not esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments or parables. Christians esteem, use, invoke and promote only those few deliveries which Jesus made very privately to only the disciples, in private sessions among only them.

Do you guys esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments and/or parables? Have you been deceived?

Have you been playing 'willy-nilly', 'must-fail', 'guessing games of chance' with your salvation and deliverance, by esteeming, using, invoking and promoting parables?

By their very nature and design parables lend themselves to many possible interpretations. 'The dead' choose to use parables because they can twist them to suit their own ideas. This enables harden spiritually dead people to be appeased on their terms and so be managed on their terms into keeping the peace, on earth until they die and bury each other inside the earth, in hell, with Satan.

This is how Jesus 'let the dead bury their dead'.

However Christians are the chosen few who actually follow Jesus correctly. They literally and totally accept and use only those few deliveries which Jesus made very privately to only the disciples, in private sessions among only them. They interpret nothing and therefore do not err.

Christians are genuine and actual seekers of truth. They read the Holy KJV N.T. diligently with an unconditioned brain. They knock with the innocence of an unconditioned child and truth is opened onto them.

Did you ever read Matthew: 13 verses: 10 to 15 of the Holy KJV N.T.?

A genuine teacher knows that this revelation is the first one that his charges must be led too. This is the instruction on how to use the Holy KJV N.T. in the correct manner. This does not escape a genuine seeker of truth. However it remains hidden to those who are not ready. It remains hidden to those who are not yet given to follow Jesus and to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven.

'The dead' do not seek truth. They simply zoom into and arbitrarily pluck out, those revelations which seem to support their spiritually dead ideas. They lift those revelations, out of context if necessary, and invoke them to support their own agendas and ideas. They err gravely. And indeed, this is how, eventually, they bury each other, inside the earth, in hell with Satan.

Matthew: 8 King James Version (KJV)
22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.

Teaching Christianity must be left to those Spiritually Gifted with the relevant art and science. The billion strong traditional Christianity is plagued with and ruled by, mostly unwitting false prophets and unwitting unawares false spying brethren.

A formal or other kind of 'man' initiated and 'man' informed education about scriptures does not in the least way qualify one to be a 'knower' and/or teacher of Christianity.

There are many "Pastor Dr. John Doe", 'Pastor John Doe BA. etc..

The handle, 'Pastor Dr.' etc., identify a serious Satan. This identifies a person who savor the things of man (a man made designation) and not the things of God (a Gift of the Spirit). He/She is indeed very well qualified to teach the letter which killeth.

The handle, 'Pastor Dr.' etc. is a mammoth sanctioned and mammoth approved designation. This is man empowering himself.

Do not be fooled. No one can serve two masters. One can turn inward to the Spirit of Jesus who passes all knowledge or one can turn outward to one's fellow man to teach and certify one:

Matthew: 6 King James Version (KJV)
24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

Gurucam
August 11th, 2017, 10:07 PM
Teaching Christianity must be left to those Spiritually Gifted with the relevant art and science. The billion strong traditional Christianity is plagued with and ruled by, mostly unwitting false prophets and unwitting unawares false spying brethren.

A formal or other kind of 'man' initiated and 'man' informed education about scriptures does not in the least way qualify one to be a 'knower' and/or teacher of Christianity.

There are many "Pastor Dr. John Doe", 'Pastor John Doe BA. etc..

The handle, 'Pastor Dr.' etc., identify a serious Satan. This identifies a person who savor the things of man (a man made designation) and not the things of God (a Gift of the Spirit). He/She is indeed very well qualified to teach the letter which killeth.

The handle, 'Pastor Dr.' etc. is a mammoth sanctioned and mammoth approved designation. This is man empowering himself. This 'left brain actualization and left brain 'man/carnal' certification. This system requires one to take, recognize and have a man as one god, like O.T. people like Ishmael and his generations.

Christian information, knowledge and guidance come only directly and intuitively from the Spirit of Jesus through one's own heart/spirit. This is a silent individualized private 'inward' search. This is right brain God/spirit self actualization. This requires one to access the Will/Spirit of God through the Spirit of Jesus, within one's own heart/spirit. No other human is permitted to get in-between. This to take and have God as one's God, like N.T. people, like Isaac and his generation.

Refer to post # 139 for details on who have the God as their God and who have a man as their god.

Ephesians: 3 King James Version (KJV)
16 That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man;
17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,
18 May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;
19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.

John: 16 King James Version (KJV)
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
26 Likewise the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession) also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession) itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession), because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

Do not be fooled. No one can serve two masters. One can turn inward to the Spirit of Jesus who passes all knowledge or one can turn outward to one's fellow man to teach, access and certify one:

Matthew: 6 King James Version (KJV)
24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

Gurucam
August 11th, 2017, 10:52 PM
Christ dwells in one heart and passes all knowledge. This is the only Christian way. This is the N.T./spirit and Spirit/Jesus way.

Please know that the handle, 'Pastor Dr.', identify a 'formally qualified' Satan. This is not the Christian way. This is the way of 'the dead'.

'Pastor Dr.' is 'the dead' certifying their own kind, 'the dead'. Guaranteed that such a person is formally strengthened to teach 'the letter' which killeth (i.e. makes others 'the dead'.

Only O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments people get their knowledge by studying/learning scriptures and so becoming certified by their fellow higher ranking men. This is the 'lettered' and 'law' way which killeth (spiritually), by undermining one's spirit based, intuitive capacity to know things from consciousness., i.e. from the Spirit of Jesus.

Christians (N.T./Jesus/Christian people) are like Jesus Christ. They do not learn scriptures to get their knowledge

Jesus did not study or learn scriptures in order to know scriptures. This defines the Christian way:

John: 7 KJV N.T.
15 And the Jews marvelled, saying, How knoweth this man letters, having never learned?

Christians get their knowledge directly, privately, internally and intuitively from the Spirit of Jesus through each of their own hearts/spirit. Then which other human is fit to certify such a one?

Ephesians: 3 King James Version (KJV)
16 That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man;
17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,
18 May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;
19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.

. . . Please learn to know a fraud/false prophet when you see one.

A billion strong traditional Christians have taken so many seriously wrong turns which are all terminally for them.

Matthew: 22 King James Version (KJV)
14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

Matthew: 24 King James Version (KJV)
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

Gurucam
August 12th, 2017, 06:32 AM
Left brain actualization and functioning is the way of 'the dead'. This is the anchor of the O.T,/Mosaic/ten commandments tradition.

Right brain actualization and functioning is the way of 'converted'/spiritually aware people. This is the anchor of the N.T/spirit and Spirit/Jesus/Christian tradition.

There is a physical/carnal way of getting information. And there is a spirit/intuitive way of getting knowledge.

The former operates through our left brain hemisphere. The latter operates through our right brain hemisphere.

1. The O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments is the physical/carnal way of getting information. This is anchored on physically hearing and physically reading things so as to be informed. Under this system some other human must get or make up an ideas and then pass it on to others.

The above is how Moses deliver the O.T. to his followers. None of them got it through their own spiritual actualization, directly and personally from God/Spirit.

The above is how O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments people got and continue to get, their knowledge (which they call scriptures) from Moses.

O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments people like to say, that their scriptures came through a man called Moses and not from a man called Moses.

Bottom line is that none of Moses followers got this knowledge directly (their scriptures) from God through each of their own personal and direct communion with an 'not seen' source/Spirit/God. They all got it from Moses, a man. This is essentially, second hand none-experiential knowledge.

The above approach to getting knowledge is also the basis of university and other formal education systems. These education system are primarily anchored on the knowledge of others. All formally educated and formally designated people are pawns of other people. Foe example the god of medical practitioners are the people/owners of pharmacological companies.

Formally educated and formally designated people have made other people their god and abandon the God. They are like Ishmael and his generation and not like Abraham, Isaac and Isaac's generations:

Matthew: 22 KJV N.T.
9 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.
30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.
31 But as touching the resurrection of the dead, have ye not read that which was spoken unto you by God, saying,
32 I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.

Currently formal education and formal designation is the way of 'the dead', i.e. children of the flesh, i.e. one who is dead to his own spirit and therefore unaware of his intuitive/spirit faculties and therefore cannot come up with what they need to know directly from the firmament/consciousness/Spirit of Jesus.

This discernment is done through only left brain actualization and functioning. Such a person is less that half aware and half actualized. They are dead to their spirit side and the spirit world. They are called 'the dead'.

2. The Christian approach to getting information is totally different. A Christian does not go through a local physical human on earth to get his information.

A Christian does not even rely on the physical, 'seen' and temporal son of man Jesus to get his information (like Peter did). Therefore Moses and the O.T. are totally out for Christians.

A Christian gets all his knowledge and guidance through a totally not-physical intuitive connection between his own heart/spirit and the Spirit of Jesus:

Ephesians: 3 King James Version (KJV)
16 That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man;
17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,
18 May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;
19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.

This is first hand information and guidance.

This is how Einstein got his information and brought it to all other humans on earth. Einstein brought first hand information to earth. This is also how Paul got his information, guidance and commission. It was all spiritually discerned through spirit/intuitive - right brain actualization and functioning:

Galatians: 1 KJV N.T.
11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.

This information and guidance is obtained though our right side brain hemisphere. This is to not be 'the dead' and to be spiritually aware.

Such a person is whole. Both sides of his brain are actualized and functioning. Such a person is described as self actualized. This is the basis of (the required actualization for) being given to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven.

The sad fact is that the billion strong traditional Christians have been conditioned to accept and function only through their left brain hemisphere. They remain totally dead to their right brain hemisphere. And this sad conditioning keps them dead to their right brain hemisphere.

The dead are child of the flesh. They are anchored only in their flesh. They get all their information through lettered discernment. That is, through physical hearing and physical reading and their other physical senses

This kind of discernment is done only through left brain functioning. This killeth right brain spirit/intuitive actualization and functioning. This is to become 'the dead' and to be tricked into remaining 'the dead'.

Paul got his information, instruction and commission the intuitive/spirit way. This is through right brain actualization and functioning. This is through an intuitive connection with the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God Jesus Who is the Lord from and in, heaven. This and only this is the Christian way.

On the other hand, Peter got his information, instructions and commission through the physical/carnal way, i.e. through left brain actualization and functioning. He got his information, instructions and commission through the physically spoken and physical written words of another man, the physical 'seen' and temporal son of man Jesus who was not the Lord from and in, heaven. This is the way of 'the dead'/Satan.

1 Corinthians: 15 King James Version (KJV)
35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

From among those people, back then, only Paul had actual live communion with, got his knowledge, instructions and commission from, the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God Jesus, Who is the Lord in and from, heaven, 'seated' on his throne of glory in spirit heaven, on the right hand of the Holy Spirit, clad only in his spirit body.

Peter and the others communed with and knew and got their commission only from the physical, 'seen', earthly, flesh and blood, temporal, son of man Jesus who was not the Lord from or in, heaven.

Peter and those others seemed to have retained a man as their God. They held on to and relied on, only, their communion with the physical, 'seen', earthly, flesh and blood, temporal, son of man Jesus who was not the Lord from or in, heaven. They remained 'the dead' who is also called Satan. They did not inherit the God as their God.

None of them seemed to have achieved the actualization and way of Paul who actually inherited the God as his God, through actual live communion with the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God Jesus. Only Paul became converted and a child of God, a Christian.

Hope you guys got the whole mystery behind: "I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living."

Gurucam
August 12th, 2017, 08:14 AM
Matthew: 13 KJV N.T.
15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

To be 'converted' is to become aware of one's right side brain and so bring it functionality (it's intuitive faculties) to one's awareness.

Then one can have live, self determined and deliberate intuitive communion with the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Lord Jesus, through right side brain interfacing/detection.

And when one is led into all of one's works by precisely what this Spirit has in mind for one to know, pray for, say and do as discern within one's own heart/spirit (i.e. through right brain functioning), even if one has to transgress the ten commandments, one is healed by Jesus.

The above is the art and science of following Jesus and not being 'the dead who bury each other'.

The above is the simple (knock-down) mystery to 'being converted' and 'being healed by Jesus'.

One can make no progress on the path to being Christian, if one is not 'converted'. That is, 'the dead' (one who is not converted) cannot follow Jesus (into Christianity and to heaven etc.). 'The dead will invariably bury each other', inside the earth, in hell, with Satan.

Matthew: 8 King James Version (KJV)
22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.

Gurucam
August 12th, 2017, 08:48 AM
Matthew: 7 King James Version (KJV)
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

If by any good chance my posts and threads are the straight gate and narrow way, you guys have to do the basic work of reading and re-reading them all, so as to not miss the smallest thing.

I have taken the utmost care to write my posts and threads as carefully, accurately and completely as possible. This is why I avoid 'one liners'.

Also I cannot let the revelations, as literally recorded, in the Holy KJV N.T., fade into oblivion by being replaced by spiritually dead interpretations.

The other versions of the N.T. seems to be exorcised of the Spirit and Spirit dimension of Jesus' authentic Christian teachings and messages which are still held, intact, within the Holy KJV N.T.:

Ephesians: 6 King James Version (KJV)
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

In the above, "flesh and blood, principalities, powers, the rulers of the darkness of this world, spiritual wickedness in high places" describe the active, unwitting and uninformed way of 'the dead', who corruptly ruled over what passed for Christianity for past centuries or millenniums.

Have no doubt 'the dead' are those who esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments. Fact is the ten commandments killeth. They make one 'the dead':

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.

They are the ones responsible for exorcising spirit and Spirit from Jesus' Christian teachings and message. They are the ones who wrote new versions of the N.T. which are spiritually exorcised versions or spiritual alterations of the original Holy KJV N.T.

One has to be grateful to those who actively preserved the Holy KJV N.T., as is, over these past tumultuous and spiritually wicked millenniums:

Yet the essential fabric of the Holy KJV N.T. can never be lost. It hums, very alive for all eternity, in the Spirit realm among angels. It is forever available in purity for those who knock (seek it) correctly. It is soon to become very common knowledge on earth. It will be known and taken for an obvious reality like we take 'the fact that day follows night, perpetually.

This will totally remove the need to seek it in spirit heaven.

Fact is, yesterday's mystery/miracle inevitably becomes today's every day common reality. Then a bit more of spirit heaven come to roust on the surface of earth.

The above is an inevitable progression at this time. The reality on the surface is no longer in decline. We have left behind our past Dark Age on the surface of earth. We have entered a New Age of Enlightenment in Christ, on the surface of earth.

As we progress further into the above transformation, more realities that existed only in God's kingdom in spirit heaven will come to the surface of earth and become every day realities, on the surface of earth. This is how God's kingdom of heaven comes to the surface of earth:

Matthew: 6 King James Version (KJV)
10 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.

My posts and threads are a testimony to the above on-going transformation. My posts and threads represent critical Christian/spirit and Spirit knowledge that was hidden (not accessible and/or known to the masses) before.

My posts and threads are truth in the fullness of time. They are the parable free Holy KJV N.T. This is the final gospel which is being publish in all lands before the big transformation.

This is the gospel of pure truth, i.e. the Holy KJV N.T. without parables. This defines the ruling reality on the surface of earth in this New age of Enlightenment in Christ.

Get on board and relevant, or be teleported out-ah-here, under grace of God.

Gurucam
August 12th, 2017, 06:38 PM
Matthew: 6 King James Version (KJV)
10 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.

When God's kingdom of heaven comes to the surface of earth the O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments (which are given solely for use by 'the dead') will not be needed.

The ten commandments killeth, i.e. makes one 'the dead'. 'The dead' are inevitably hell bound. They cannot be relevant on the surface of earth when God's kingdom of heaven is formed on the surface of earth:

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.

'The dead' are children of the flesh. They will not be inheriting the surface of earth, together with children of God/Christians/Saints, when God's kingdom of heaven is fully formed on earth.

Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.

Romans: 9 King James Version (KJV)
7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.

Therefore the O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments system will be purged from the surface of earth together with 'the dead' when God's kingdom of heaven is established on the surface of earth.

Also all parables in the Holy KJV N.T. will be purged out of the Holy KJV N.T. and also totally purged out of the surface of earth.

Parables are like the ten commandments, they were given to appease and fool-up 'the dead' because they were not given to know or get the mysteries of God's kingdom. 'The dead' describes people who are not aware of their own spirits and are therefore not spiritually actualized. They are carnal/children of the flesh:

Matthew: 13 KJV N.T.
10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

People who 'seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand' are 'the dead'. 'The dead' are also described as "this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed".

Since 'the dead' would not be on earth after God's kingdom of heaven is formed here, both the O.T.Mosaic/ten commandments systems and parables will thrown out from the surface of earth.

What will be left, in essence, will be simply the Holy KJV N.T. without any parables. This will be the pure mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. However, even this would not be required, eventually for two reasons:

1. God's kingdom of heaven will no longer be a mystery on the surface of earth. It will be a plain living reality on the surface of earth.
2. Every one on earth will be able to directly access these mysteries (and all other things) in real time, all the time directly and intuitively from the Spirit of Jesus.

Are you guys prepared for God's kingdom of heaven which has dawned on the surface of earth?

Do you still rely on, esteem, use, invoke and promote the ten commandments and parables?

Are you ready to be weened out of these. Can you be weened out of these?

. . . or are you going to sleep through this unfolding event and eventually be suddenly teleported to another very sad and uncomfortable place.

Matthew 24 King James Version (KJV)
40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

The above is teleporting of 'the dead'/children of the flesh out of the surface of earth and into hell, inside the earth, with Satan. This is not the teleporting of children of God to heaven.

All the spoken-of dooms day events do not occur on the surface of earth.

These are descriptions of the current on-going realities in hell, inside the earth. This is the reality where 'the dead/children of the flesh are teleported to when God's kingdom is formed on the surface of earth.

This teleportation of the dead/children of the flesh to hell, inside the earth will be so seamless and swift that they will perceive that the surface of earth has turned into hell. They will simply not know what hit them.

They may never awaken to the fact that it is not the surface of earth that has turned to dooms day hell but it is they who were perfectly teleported to hell that seem to them to be a dooms day earth.

Mark: 13 KJV N.T.
24 But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,
25 And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken.

The above describes the on-going actual perpetual reality in hell, inside the earth with Satan. The tribulation is the teleportation of 'the dead'/children of the flesh, through black-hole portals into hell inside earth. Teleportation to hell inside the earth is the tribulation. This is the cause of the great suffering that 'the dead/children of the flesh face.

The sudden and seamless transfer (teleportation) of 'the dead'/children of the flesh to hell inside the earth will have them believe that they are still on earth and the sun has suddenly darkened, and the moon is no longer giving her light and the stars of heaven has fallen and the powers of the heaven are no more.

The simple fact is that in hell inside the earth a sun does not shine, there is no moon or stars and there are no powers available there for one to rise out of there and go to heaven.

The powers to help one go to heaven are only available on the surface of earth. This is anchored on following Jesus. Those who follow Jesus deliberately transgress the ten commandments so as to serve their own spirits while soweth-ing to Spirit.

The dead do not make it. The dead are those who esteem, use, invoke and promote the ten commandments and parables, both of which killeth, i.e. keeps one or makes one, 'the dead/children of the flesh.

Apart from being teleported, in the fullness of time, 'the dead'/children of the flesh are routinely send to the above described hell place inside the earth, when they die. However Christians (the authentic ones) do not go there.

A billion strong traditional Christians believe that life is simply about holding their own ideas and beliefs and arguing semantics. Arguing semantics is 'letter discernment' which killeth, i.e. makes one 'the dead'/children of the flesh.

A billion strong traditional Christians do not realize that a real hell exists within the depth of earth and 'the dead'/children of the flesh are routinely sent there, when they physically die.

Therefore they are not motivated to and theyy do not seek to, stop being 'the dead' and then become Christians. They corrupt scriptures instead of accepting scriptures. They live in total denial of truth.

Gurucam
August 12th, 2017, 08:22 PM
Matthew 24 King James Version (KJV)
40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

The above is teleporting of 'the dead'/children of the flesh out of the surface of earth and into hell, inside the earth, with Satan. This is not the teleporting of children of God to heaven.

All the spoken-of dooms day events do not occur on the surface of earth.

These are descriptions of the current on-going realities in hell, inside the earth. This is the reality where 'the dead/children of the flesh are teleported to when God's kingdom is formed on the surface of earth.

This teleportation of the dead/children of the flesh to hell, inside the earth will be so seamless and swift that they will perceive that the surface of earth has turned into hell. They will simply not know what hit them.

They may never awaken to the fact that it is not the surface of earth that has turned to dooms day hell but it is they who were perfectly teleported to hell that seem to them to be a dooms day earth.

Mark: 13 KJV N.T.
24 But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,
25 And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken.

The above describes the on-going actual perpetual reality in hell, inside the earth with Satan. The tribulation is the teleportation of 'the dead'/children of the flesh, through black-hole portals into hell inside earth. Teleportation to hell inside the earth is the tribulation. This is the cause of the great suffering that 'the dead/children of the flesh face.

The sudden and seamless transfer (teleportation) of 'the dead'/children of the flesh to hell inside the earth will have them believe that they are still on earth and the sun has suddenly darkened, and the moon is no longer giving her light and the stars of heaven has fallen and the powers of the heaven are no more.

The simple fact is that in hell inside the earth a sun does not shine, there is no moon or stars and there are no powers available there for one to rise out of there and go to heaven.

The powers to help one go to heaven are only available on the surface of earth. This is anchored on following Jesus. Those who follow Jesus deliberately transgress the ten commandments so as to serve their own spirits while soweth-ing to Spirit.

The dead do not make it. The dead are those who esteem, use, invoke and promote the ten commandments and parables, both of which killeth, i.e. keeps one or makes one, 'the dead/children of the flesh.

Apart from being teleported, in the fullness of time, 'the dead'/children of the flesh are routinely send to the above described hell place inside the earth, when they die. However Christians (the authentic ones) do not go there.

A billion strong traditional Christians believe that life is simply about holding their own ideas and beliefs and arguing semantics. Arguing semantics is 'letter discernment' which killeth, i.e. makes one 'the dead'/children of the flesh.

A billion strong traditional Christians do not realize that a real hell exists within the depth of earth and 'the dead'/children of the flesh are routinely sent there, when they physically die.

Therefore they are not motivated to and they do not seek to, stop being 'the dead' and then become Christians. They simply esteem, use, invoke and promote the ten commandments because it suit their fancy and they deny and/or undermine the Holy KJV N.T. which says that those commandments make one 'the dead'.

A billion strong traditional Christians routinely deny and corrupt scriptures instead of accepting scriptures. They live in total denial of truth.

They do not care to know, accurately, what is meant by 'let the dead bury their dead'. They make-up their own idea about that instruction.

Gurucam
August 13th, 2017, 02:42 AM
The promise is that God's kingdom of heaven will come to the surface of earth in the fullness of time:

Matthew: 6 King James Version (KJV)
10 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.

The surface of earth is promised to children of God. The promise is that in the fullness of time, children of God will inherit the surface of earth, in God's kingdom of heaven, without children of the flesh:

Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.

Jesus is destine to wield this sword of separation:

Matthew: 10 King James Version (KJV)
34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

(Notice that, according to the Holy KJV N.T., N.T./Jesus/Christianity people are not about peace. Of course O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments people are about 'peace' . . . . essentially because they know no peace.)

Jesus sword of separation is not wield physically/materially.

Jesus' sword of separation operate through a quantum/spirit method called teleportation. However up to now this occurs all the time, only in the spirit realm when one dies. This is set to change. This is set to operate while one is alive in a physical body.

When the generations of Abraham dies physically, in the spirit realm, they are always separated into two sets, as follows:
1. Ishmael and his generations. They are 'the dead/children of the flesh and
2. Abraham, Isaac and Isaac generation. They are the children of promis/children of spirit and Spirit/children of God.

The first set are dispatched, through teleportation, to hell inside the earth, with Satan and the latter to heaven in the spirit realm. This was an after physical death event.

Romans: 9 King James Version (KJV)
7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.

Matthew: 22 KJV N.T.
32 I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.

luke: 13 KJV N.T.
28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.

This has been the on-going reality in the spirit realm after each one of the generations of Abraham physically died.

However the time is at hand for this quantum/spirit sword of separation to be applied while humans are alive in physical bodies on the surface of earth. What happens in the spirit/quantum realm is set to now happen physically and routinely on the surface of earth. This is the reality when spirituality comes to rouse on the surface of earth.

Jesus' quantum/spiritual sword of separation will soon have its final use. This will impact 'the dead/children of the flesh. In one final scoop all 'the dead'/'children of the flesh' will be teleported to hell inside the earth, with Satan, while they are alive in physical bodies.

Earth's population will be separated into children of the flesh/'the dead' and children of God/the spiritually alive. However this separation will not be done according through 'Noah styling' or through any other physical/carnal approaches.

This separation will be done through a Quantum/spirit approach. This is teleportation through black hole portal according to one's entanglement. One will simply experience a change in one's environment and some of their fellow humans no longer among them. It will be as follows:

Matthew 24 King James Version (KJV)
40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

'The dead' will be totally deluded about what actually happened. They are simply not given to discern and know truth. Fact is they will be teleported out of the surface of earth and into hell inside the earth, with Satan, however their perception will be that they have remained on earth and earth has become hell and some of their fellow humans have disappeared.

Fact is, the dooms-day events spoken about in scriptures will not occur on the surface of earth which is destine to be heaven on earth.

Those dooms-day events are clearly hellish. They describe the present and continuing turmoil that is the reality in hell, inside the earth with Satan.

Also these dooms-day events are not destine to occur among children of God and the surface of earth which they will inherit.

Those dooms-day events will only seem to happen on the surface of earth by 'the dead'/children of the flesh. In reality they would have been teleported to hell inside the earth, with Satan.

This happens because this teleportation to different dimensions occurs seamlessly and 'in the twinkling of an eye' routinely to humans on earth. In one fraction of a second one is in this dimension and in another one is in another dimension. It is all hinged on person perception.

The contrast is that 'dooms-day events relate to a much more significant change in dimensions. The dead/children of the flesh will be teleported to a seriously different dimension. However they will perceive this big shift in the same manner that they perceive smaller shifts in dimensions. They will be deluded.

They will not know that they have shifted to a new dimension. They will erroneously perceive that their environment has or is changing.

The actual dooms-day event is that 'the dead'/children of the flesh are teleported off the surface of earth and into hell inside the earth with Satan. And they will not have a clue of this fact. Their (essentially false) perception would be that their environment has changed for the worse and some people are no longer among them.

The doom-day events spoken of in scriptures are conformed to the deluded perceptions of 'the dead' who are children of the flesh. This is an old trend. The ten commandments and parables were given to the dead/children of the flesh in the same manner.

The doom-day events spoken of in scriptures are parables. They are presented according to the deluded manner in which 'the dead'/'children of the flesh' (i.e. the generations of Ishmael) will inevitably perceive/metabolize the actual event. They are always deluded.

To a very great extent, scriptures are designed to appease 'the dead'/'children of the flesh' on their deluded terms. Scriptures are not given to blatantly tell 'the dead'/'children of the flesh' about their totally untenable blindness and ways and inevitable doom.

Children of God do not need scriptures.

The above seeks to express dooms-day event in truth and in fact.

We are in the fullness of time and all truths will surface very easily and clearly as the most common knowledge. Nothing will be rendered in parables. All thing will come forth with great plainness of speech.

2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
12 Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech:
13 And not as Moses, which put a veil over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:
14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.
15 But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.
16 Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.
17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty

The above is how Moses had to and did, deal with 'the dead'. He did not use great plainness of speech. 'The dead' are not given to know truth, which include the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. There is no other way to deal with 'the dead'. They are simply always foolish self-righteous, 'know it all' and arrogant, i.e. until they become 'converted' and are given to recognize and know truth.

Jesus did it the same way as Moses. Both of them (Jesus and Moses) fooled-up 'the dead' to keep them managed and peaceful. Moses used the ten commandments and Jesus used parables. The following is how Jesus had to and did, deal with 'the dead'.

Matthew: 13 KJV N.T.
10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

The dooms-day events stated in the Holy KJV N.T. are parables. Parables are not, at all, designed to deliver truth. Parables are designed to give 'the dead'/'children of the flesh' a false sense of security. The aim of parables is to appease 'the dead', (who will at any event, bury each other) whiles delivering truth which can be discerned by those with 'the eyes to see', 'the ears to hear' and 'the hearts to understand'.

. . . the fullness of time is at had when all truth will surface in absolute clarity and purity.

The Age of 'Quantum'/'spirit and Spirit' is at hand on the surface of earth and fully functional. Operations and functioning in the age of quantum/spirit and Spirit will not be through physical devises like particular accelerators at Cern.

Operations and functioning in the age of quantum/spirit and Spirit will be through Spiritual gifts that are possessed by the chosen few and the natural forces of nature. These chosen few are the actual and authentic Christians.

Gurucam
August 13th, 2017, 09:53 AM
The people at Cern are entangled with physicality. They are essentially among 'the dead' on earth.

They might just open a black-hole portal into hell, inside the earth where Satan rules completely.

However they will be among the first ones to be sucked in and teleported through that black hole portal into hell inside the earth, with Satan. This will be according to their own entanglement which is of 'the dead', who at all events, are (any way) hell bent.

Their are experiments of and in, the quantum field/spirit realm.

It is not that their experiments and intent are evil. Fact is nothing is actually evil. There are simply certain results from one actions. Properly and adequately informed action take one to heaven. Uninformed or poorly informed actions take one to hell.

It is simply that the scientist at Cern do not have the required inherent and subjective Gift of the Spirit to properly control and regulate the outcome which they seek. They are in way over their heads and spirits and their results can be very terminally detrimental to them and others who are 'the dead'.

Our new world or 'the new earth' is indeed quantum/spiritual.

However this new world does not belong to the old spiritually dead brigade armed with their physical external devices.

The new world belong to spiritually aware people who posses subject actualization which include Gifts of the Spirit to competently function in the quantum/spirit world.

Our quantum mechanics at Cern have simply gone where angels fear to thread. It is one thing to die physically, it is quite another terminally serious thing to be spiritually dead and to be teleported into hell inside the earth with Satan.

Gurucam
August 13th, 2017, 10:23 AM
Ephesians: 3 King James Version (KJV)
16 That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man;
17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,
18 May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;
19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.

Are you guys getting at least a glimpse of the the breadth, and length, and depth, and height. These are four dimensions. The last one is the quantum/spirit dimension. This is the space/time dimension where everything (past, present and future) exist as probabilities and can be (artfully and scientifically) collapsed according to the whim of spiritually aware people who posses appropriate Giff or Gifts of the Spirit.

The fourth dimension is the realm of the throne of glory of the Spirit, 'not seen' eternal, Son of God, Lord Jesus.

Matthew: 7 King James Version (KJV)
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Matthew: 22 King James Version (KJV)
14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

Matthew: 24 King James Version (KJV)
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

The air is rear where truth resides (i.e. in the quantum/spirit realm). One needs 'the nose to breadth' in order to survive there.

A billion strong traditional Christians cannot reach or survive there. They are like crabs in a bucket.

Have you ever seen live crabs in a bucket. In their bid to get out they climb on each other and pull down each other.

This is how 'the dead bury their dead'. They esteem, use, invoke and promote the ten commandments and parables, among each other and so killeth each other and eventually bury each other in hell inside the earth, with Satan.

Are you still comfortable within the ranks of a billion strong traditional Christians? . . . . who cannot be the few who know truth, do not err and are the 'chosen few'.

Do you delight in 'dead ends'.

Gurucam
August 14th, 2017, 04:13 AM
'The dead are not given to follow Jesus And certainly, 'the dead' cannot and do not follow Jesus to heaven:

Matthew: 8 King James Version (KJV)
22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.

This is how one follows Jesus:

John: 14 King James Version (KJV)
2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

'The dead' are billions of people who (in some way or the other) esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments:

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.
11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.

'slew me' equals 'spiritually kill me'.

The spiritually dead (i.e. 'the dead') describes people whose hearts/spirits are waxed gross/covered over. They are not aware of their spirit body. They are aware of only their flesh/natural body.

1 Corinthian: 15 KJV N.T.
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

'The dead' are are children of the flesh. They are not aware of their spirit body. They are aware of only their flesh/natural body. They are not "converted'. They cannot follow Jesus and/or be healed by Jesus:

Matthew: 13 KJV N.T.
15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

'The dead' are dead to their own spirit body. They cannot soweth to Spirit. They can soweth only to flesh.

Galatians: 6 King James Version (KJV)
7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
9 And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.

'The dead' become 'the dead' by esteeming, using, invoking and/or promoting the ten commandments, while they physically live on earth. The dead are dead to their own spirit. They are aware of only their physical/natural body. They are 'flesh and blood' people. When they die, physically, they literally bury each other inside the earth, in hell, with Satan:

1 Corinthians: 15 KJV N.T.
50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

Do you guys get the above truth, with the same clarity as it is recorded in the Holy KJV N.T.. Are your 'ears to hear', 'eyes to see' and 'hearts to understand' awakening?

Or are you guys still under the spell of the Jews and other false prophets and false brethren, who seek to keep you in bondage under the ten commandments???

Gurucam
August 14th, 2017, 06:02 AM
There are those who say that the ten commandments are the laws of God because the 'thou shall not kill' commandment preserves human physical life on earth and that is God's aim.

Fact is, preserving one's physical life, any which way, is not the 'follow Jesus', Christian position:

Matthew: 16 King James Version (KJV)
25 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.
26 For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?

In fact Jesus left a very serious clue. Jesus identify Peter to be Satan because Peter sought to have Jesus save his physical life instead of loosing His physical life so as to gain glory in God's kingdom of heaven in the spirit realm:

Matthew: 16 King James Version (KJV)
21 From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.
22 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.
23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.

Also saving one's physical life by esteeming, using, invoking and promoting the ten commandments is the furthest thing from Jesus and Christianity. This is the ways of 'the dead who bury their dead. This is not the way of those who follow Jesus.

The ten commandments killeth. They make and keep one, 'the dead'. And 'the dead' cannot and are not given to, follow Jesus and become Christian:

2 Corinthians: 3 King James Version (KJV)
6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:
16 Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.
17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

Matthew: 8 King James Version (KJV)
22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.

Gurucam
August 14th, 2017, 06:45 AM
The current physical life, of 'the dead' on earth, is not consequential in its own right.

The current physical (70 or so year) life of 'the dead' on earth, is given by God, for them to simply and only actualize their individual spirit capacity. Then they must practice that capacity on earth, by serving their own spirits and soweth to Spirit. So that when they physically die and are judged, in the spirit realm, they will be dispatched to heaven and not to hell.

If one esteems, uses, invokes and/or promotes the ten commandments, even in the slightest manner, one absolutely preempts the above God given mission.

The current physical life, of 'the dead' on earth, is given for 'the dead' to any which way, become 'converted' and be healed by the Spirit of Jesus as discerned within each of their no longer waxed gross/covered over hearts/spirits.

Hebrews: 9 King James Version (KJV)
27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

The current physical life of 'the dead', on earth, is not for their enjoyment. The current physical life of 'the dead', on earth, is given for them to soweth and then to be judged (based on to how and to what they soweth):

Galatians 6:7-8King James Version (KJV)
7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.

'The dead' must become 'converted' (awakened to/aware of their own hearts/spirits), in order to soweth to Spirit:

Matthew: 13 KJV N.T.
15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

Notice that one cannot be 'the dead' (i.e. have a waxed gross heart/spirit) if one wants to be healed by Jesus. And esteeming, using, invoking and/or promoting the ten commandments killeth. That is, the ten commandments give one a waxed gross heart/spirit and keeps one's heart/spirit, waxed gross.

Jesus heals in the following manner:

Ephesians: 3 KJV N.T.
16 That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man;
17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,
18 May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;
19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.

A billion strong traditional Christians seemed to have complelely ignore and throw away the above Christian mission.

They seem to be content to remain or become 'the dead'. They seen to delight in esteeming, using, invoking and promoting the ten commandments which killeth.

A billion strong traditional Christians are routinely, esteeming, using, invoking and/or promoting the ten commandments, so as to have a spiritually dead life, on their spiritually dead terms . . . for all their lives on earth, they soweth to flesh and never to spirit and Spirit. Like Peter/Satan, they savor the things of man and not the things of God:

Matthew: 16 King James Version (KJV)
21 From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.
22 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.
23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God (spirit and Spirit things), but those that be of men (flesh and blood things).

'The dead' is one who is dead to his own spirit. Such a one is 'in the flesh'. He can serve only his flesh or 'man/earthly side'. Such a one "savourest not the things that be of God (spirit and Spirit things), but those that be of men (flesh and blood things)".

They totally ignore:

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

The law, the thou shall not covet' commandment is for one who is in the flesh, i.e. 'the dead'. The spiritually aware are delivered from that commandment so that they can freely serve their spirit.

. . . however a billion strong traditional Christians are routinely, esteeming, using, invoking and/or promoting the ten commandments which killeth (make then 'the dead'). And they foolishly believe that, they can be or are, Christians and they are heaven bound.

Only 'the dead' will invoke the 'thou shall not covet' commandment on his/her spouse who loves another, so as to keep him/her locked into a loveless/spiritless union with him/her.

Only carnal sex prevails in 'ten commandments' marital unions and only children of the flesh are brought forth. Nothing (not the adults or their off-springs) about such a marital union pleases God.

No one (not the adults or their off-springs), in such (ten commandments) unions earn the glory of God. This is the ultimate Christian sin. Everyone in such unions are cast out of God's kingdom of heaven.

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

Do not let foolish, unwitting, pip-squeak :dunce: people tell you that Christians must be or are O.K., under the ten commandments. They are simply aiding your spiritual death and delivery to hell, inside the earth, with Satan. Whether wittingly or unwittingly, they are serving the Antichrist and recruiting for Satan.

Many 'bible toting', 'ten commandments' 'stick out your behind when you hug' old ladies are actually displaying/flashing they carnal/flesh preoccupation.

Gurucam
August 14th, 2017, 12:29 PM
Sorry, this was a duplication.

Please see next post.

Gurucam
August 14th, 2017, 12:32 PM
Matthew: 16 King James Version (KJV)
21 From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.
22 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.
23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God (spirit and Spirit things), but those that be of men (flesh and blood things).

Do you guys get the message in the above? Peter was Satan because he savourest not the things that be of God (spirit and Spirit things), but those that be of men (flesh and blood things).

How did Peter demonstrate that he savourest not the things that be of God (spirit and Spirit things), but those that be of men (flesh and blood things)[/B]?

He tried to influence/persuade Jesus to save his temporal physical life (on earth) and loose his eternal Spirit life (in heaven).

Both the ten commandments and parables killeth spiritual awareness. Both of these serve to save people's temporal physical lives (on earth) and have them loose their eternal spirit lives (in heaven)

The above is based on clear and literal revelations in the Holy KJV N.T.:

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.
11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.

'slew me' equals 'spiritually kill me'.

The above is not based on 'half bakes' ideas that some foolish priest/pastor made-up.

There are no cogent arguments to offer against the above.

Gurucam
August 15th, 2017, 06:17 AM
Matthew: 16 King James Version (KJV)
21 From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.
22 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.
23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God (spirit and Spirit things), but those that be of men (flesh and blood things).

The above is Peter trying to have Jesus save his physical and temporal life on earth and loose his spirit eternal life of glory in heaven.

The above is about serving mammoth and not God. And no one can serve two masters:

Matthew: 6 King James Version (KJV)
24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

The above is to be Satan. People who 'savourest not the things that be of God (spirit and Spirit things), but those that be of men (flesh and blood things) are Satan. And they are an offense to Jesus.

Only people who are 'in the flesh' and not 'in the spirit' 'savourest not the things that be of God (spirit and Spirit things), but those that be of men (flesh and blood things)'.

Not only did Jesus expect Peter to continue to be Satan. Satanic practices continued big time on earth.

Billions falsely projected themselves to be Christians while they continued Satanic practices and continued to be an offense onto Jesus.

Billion, who falsely projected themselves to be Christians, savor, esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments, even though Jesus categorically did-away-with the ten commandments for Christians.

To savor, esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments is to 'savourest not the things that be of God (spirit and Spirit things), but those that be of men (flesh and blood things)' because

. . . the ten commandments killeth. The ten commandments make one and keep one 'dead to one's spirit and so make and keep one in the flesh, i.e. make one and keep one Satanic, like Peter.

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.
11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.

Gurucam
August 15th, 2017, 12:51 PM
The entire Holy KJV N.T. is anchored on two divisions. These are:
1. things related to Satan/Devil and serving Satan/Devil
2, things related to God and serving God..

For example:

1.Matthew: 8 King James Version (KJV)
22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.

In the above, 'follow me' relates to God and following God. 'Let the dead bury their dead' relates to Satan/Devil and following Satan/the Devil.

2.Matthew: 16 King James Version (KJV)
21 From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.
22 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.
23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God (spirit and Spirit things), but those that be of men (flesh and blood things).

In the above, 'savourest the things of God' relates to God and following God. 'savourest the things of man' relates to Satan/Devil and following Satan/Devil.

3. Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

In the above, 'fruits onto God/children of God' relates to God and following God. 'Fruits onto death/children of the flesh' relates to Satan/Devil and following Satan/Devil.

4. Also in the above, 'becoming dead to, delivered from and transgressing, the 'thou shall not covet' commandment so as to serve in the newness of spirit relates to God and following God. 'Esteeming, using, invoking and promoting the ten commandments is related to Satan/Devil and serving Satan/Devil.

When ever two options are mentioned in the Holy KJV N.T., one relates to God and following God and the other relates to Satan/Devil and following Satan/Devil.

Fact is serving one's spirit is service to God. Serving one's flesh is service to Satan/Devil.

Serving one's own spirit can be done in harmony with the Holy Spirit. This is refined service to God.

Serving one's flesh can be regulated by the ten commandments. This is still service to Satan/Devil.

There are no 'in-between' positions.

Galatians: 6 King James Version (KJV)
7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
9 And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.

In the above, 'he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh' relates to Satan/Devil and following Satan/Devil. 'He that soweth to the Spirit' relates to God and following God.

The above is the reality all over the Holy KJV N.T.

A billion strong traditional Christians take things, from the Holy KJV N.T., that are related to Satan/Devil and following Satan/Devil . . . . and corruptly esteem, use, invoke and/or promote them as things related to serving God and following God.

There are no 'in-between' positions. There are just two masters:

Matthew: 6 King James Version (KJV)
24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

One can serve either God or man/mammoth.

To serve God is to serve God. To serve man/mammoth is to serve Satan/Devil.

There is only one way to serve God. God is a Spirit. And each person must go through his/her own heart/spirit and discern and be led by the Spirit of Jesus (as discerned within his/her own heart/spirit, in order to serve God. And one must do so even if one has to transgress the ten commandments and/or any thing else that they are told by Moses, the physical Jesus, Peter, other popes, any bishop and any priest.

Going through and being informed and guided by, Moses, the physical Jesus, Peter, other popes, bishops and priests is to serve Satan/Devil.

Fact is, one serve, either God or the Satan/Devil. No human can show another human or help another human serve God. This is totally impossible. All humans can do is to unwittingly lead his fellow man to serve Satan/Devil.

A billion traditional Christians have men as their gods:

Matthew: 22 KJV N.T.
32 I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.

'the dead' are all people who are informed and led into their works by Moses and other men.

Gurucam
August 15th, 2017, 03:27 PM
God is a Spirit:

John: 4 King James Version (KJV)
24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

How does one worship God in truth?

Well, Jesus is the truth:

John: 14 King James Version (KJV)
6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

In the above Jesus says that he is the truth. He also says that no one come onto to the Father who is a Spirit unless one goes through Him.

It is clear that if one wants to know/worship God, the Father, one must go through truth who is Jesus.

We are told that after Jesus' crucifixion, he rose to heaven clad only in his Spirit body, to be the Lord in heaven:

1 Corinthians: 15 King James Version (KJV)
35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

We are told that since 2000 odd years ago, Jesus, clad only in His Spirit body, rose to heaven and became seated on the right hand of the Holy Spirit. We are told also that in this format in spirit heaven, Jesus is the Lord and where this Spirit is present there is liberty.

2 Corinthians: 3 King James Version (KJV)
17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

Therefore God is a Spirit and Jesus is a Spirit who makes intercession for humans with urging which they cannot utter, according to the Will/Spirit of God.

Therefore when the following verses say that 'the Spirit' makes 'intercession', this must be Jesus, clad only in His Spirit body. Therefore it is correct to say:

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
6 Likewise the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession)also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession) itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession), because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

The above say that the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession makes intercession for us with groaning which we cannot utter according to the Will/Spirit of God. And he that searches his heart come to know precisely what the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession has in mind for one to know, pray for say and do.

What the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession has in mind for one to know, pray for say and do is a perfect amalgam of 1.) groaning which we cannot utter and 2.) the Will/Spirit of God. And this is discerned within each of our own hearts/spirit from the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession.

It is not very interesting that the above concur perfectly with:

Ephesians: 3 King James Version (KJV)
17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,
18 May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;
19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.
19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.

Clearly therefore this entire thing about serving God has nothing to do with humans like:
1. Moses,
2. the physical Jesus who was earthly and of earth and not the Lord in or from, heaven
3. Peter and other popes
4. bishops, priests, pastors etc.

Since there are only two choices. That is: one can serve either God or Satan/Devil, the above people have to be serving Satan/Devil, because:

Serving God is totally and only about:
1. searching one's own spirit to discern the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession within one's own heart/spirit and then being led into all of one's works by precisely what the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession has in mind for one to know, pray for say and do as discerned within one's own heart.

And this Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Intersession is Lord and where this Spirit is present one has liberty to transgress the ten commandments.

Therefore serving God and having 'the God' as one's God, is totally a very personalized individualized spirit and Spirit thing. And not at all about flesh and blood human thing (in any way) involving Moses, the physical Jesus, Peter, other popes, bishops. pastors, priests, etc.. Moses, the physical Jesus, Peter, other popes, bishops. pastors, priests etc, are clearly wittingly or unwittingly serving Satan/Devil.

Only Teaches and Governors serve God. They are totally different from, Moses, the physical Jesus, Peter, other popes, bishops. pastors, priests etc. who serve 'the dead'.

Teaches and Governors serves aspiring Christians and Christians. And all they teach their charges is: become 'converted' and then discern the Spirit of Jesus within your own heart and then be led into all your works by what this Spirit has in mind for you to know, pray for, say and do (as discerned within you own hearts/spirits) even if you have to transgress the ten commandments and all things that you were taught by Moses, the physical Jesus, Peter, other popes, bishops. pastors, priests etc..

Indeed newly converted people are instructed to transgress the ten commandments and all other ideals and laws that were given by Moses, the physical Jesus, Peter, other popes, bishops. pastors, priests etc., so as to serve each of their own spirits in harmony with the Holy Spirit, This is why one can blasphemy the physical 'seen' earthly, flesh and blood, temporal, son of man Jesus and one shall be forgiven:

Matthew: 12 King James Version (KJV)
32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

Gurucam
August 16th, 2017, 04:26 AM
Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

Indeed newly converted people are instructed to transgress the ten commandments (the thou shall not covet commandment) and all other ideals and laws that were given by Moses, the physical Jesus, Peter, other popes, bishops. pastors, priests etc., so as to serve each of their own spirits in harmony with the Holy Spirit,

This above is why one can blasphemy the physical 'seen' earthly, flesh and blood, temporal, son of man Jesus and one shall be forgiven:

Matthew: 12 King James Version (KJV)
32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

The right to speak against the physical 'seen' earthly, flesh and blood, temporal, son of man Jesus is granted to 'converted' people (i.e. spiritually awakened/spiritually aware people).

Speaking against the physical, 'seen' flesh and blood, earthly, temporal son of man Jesus is a right of required and expected passage.

A newly 'converted' (spiritually awakened) person will immediately realize the truth about the parables which Jesus delivered.

Jesus delivered parables simply to fool-up and appease 'the dead' so as to keep them peaceful.

Parables are not based on truth. 'The dead' were not given to know truth. They could not be told truth because truth was way beyond their comprehension, however they are generally self-righteous and violent. So they were and are told lies that can keep them appeased but also help them.

The above is how both Moses and the physical Jesus dealt with 'the dead'.

'The dead' are held under the ten commandments and parables until they become 'converted' and are then given to know truth. Then they will, on their very own, realize the folly that are the things which Moses and the physical Jesus had to give and did gave to them while they were 'the dead'.

A spiritually awakened person will realize the folly that are parables and he is entitled to speak against the physical 'seen' earthly, flesh and blood, temporal, son of man Jesus with respect to parables and other things which the physical 'seen' earthly, flesh and blood, temporal, son of man Jesus said and established on earth (like Peter's church).

Paul went through this passage. He blasphemed both the physical 'seen' earthly, flesh and blood, temporal, son of man Jesus and Peter's church. Not only was Paul forgiven, he was appointed to Jesus' spirit and Spirit based, Christian commission by the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal Son of God, Jesus, Who is the Lord in heaven.

By blaspheming the physical 'seen' earthly, flesh and blood, temporal, son of man Jesus and Peter's church, Paul proved to the Spirit Jesus that he was 'converted' and ready to be healed by Him, the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Lord Jesus and become Christian.

The folly of parables are confirmed in the following:

Matthew: 13 KJV N.T.
10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.

However only 'converted' people are given to 'see' the folly that are both the ten commandments and parables.

If 'the dead' (the spiritually dead) want to be given to discern and know truth, they must become 'converted' (i.e. they must become awakened to/aware of, their own heart/spirit.

1. One will know that one is no longer 'the dead' as follows: To no longer be 'the dead' is to awakened to/become aware of, one's own heart/spirit. This is to be 'converted'. One will know that one is awakened to/aware of one's own heart/spirit (i.e. 'converted') and no longer 'the dead' when the following happens:

When one discern that the ten commandments and parable killth. That is, when one realizes that the ten commandments and parables, denys one the expression and materialization on earth, of the things in one's own hearts/spirit and one cannot tolerate this denial. This creates and sustains, "groaning which one cannot utter".

The things within one's heart/spirit, which are denied by the ten commandments and parables, are 'the groaning which one cannot utter'.

The above things go against the ten commandments and parables. These are the specific things which the Spirit of Jesus makes intercession for, according to the Will/Spirit of God. These are the things which Jesus ensure and enable, that those who follow him can and must have, even if they have to transgress the ten commandments and parables. This is Christianity:

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
6 Likewise the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession)also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession) itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession), because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

The above is the first glimmer of hope for 'the dead'.

Then they are justified to speak against Moses generally and against Jesus with respect to parables and the church of Peter.

2. 'The dead' will know that they are 'the dead' and continue to be 'the dead', when they discern wisdom in, esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments and parables, even in the slightest manner. The dead cannot follow Jesus and be healed by Jesus. 'The dead inevitably bury each other'. And Jesus' instruction to those who can and do follow Him is, 'let the dead bury their dead':

Matthew: 8 King James Version (KJV)
22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.

Gurucam
August 16th, 2017, 06:48 AM
Matthew: 8 King James Version (KJV)
22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.

It is not a good thing to be 'the dead'. In fact to be 'the dead' is a hell bent thing.

The sad fact is that a billion strong traditional Christians are 'the dead' because they in some way all esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments and this keeps them and/or makes them 'the dead':

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.
11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.

In the above, "I died", "I found to be unto death", "slew me" all refer to becoming 'the dead'.

The above is what invariably happens to any one who in any way, discerns wisdom in, esteems, uses, invokes and/or promotes the ten commandments and parables. The ten commandments and parables inevitably killeth, at any and all forums.

A billion strong traditional Christians are deluded. They deny and refuse to accept the above very clear revelation from the Holy KJV N.T.

They have been totally deceived by false prophets and unawares false spying brethren.

A billion strong traditional Christians refuse to seek truth, on their own, from the Holy KJV N.T.. They delight in hearing things from others. They are simply open to be deceived by false prophets and unaware false spying brethren . . . whose mission is to, any which way, deny you 'the God' so that they can become your god and to get your material possessions, any which way, to serve their Satanic/Devilish agendas.

Gurucam
August 16th, 2017, 10:28 PM
Are you led by men or are you led by your spirit?

John: 4 King James Version (KJV)
24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

1 Corinthians: 2 KJV N.T.
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

In the above, 'spiritually discerned' refers to discerning things through the intuitive faculties of one's spirit body. This is not about physically hearing things from another man, like Moses, the physical Jesus, Peter, other popes, bishops. pastors, priests etc..

'Things of God are spiritually discerned' is directly linked to:

Ephesians: 3 King James Version (KJV)
17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,
18 May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;
19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.
19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.

The above is linked to quickening one's spirit and searching one's own heart/spirit to get all Truth/knowledge directly and intuitively from the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession, in real time, all the time:

John: 6 King James Version (KJV)
63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

When one goes directly to Jesus' words as recorded in the Holy Spirit one goes to spirit. Only Jesus words are spirit, also:

John: 14 King James Version (KJV)
6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

It is through spirit (and the Spirit of Jesus) that one communes with the Holy Spirit Who is God:

John: 4 King James Version (KJV)
24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

1 Corinthians: 15 King James Version (KJV)
35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
6 Likewise the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession) also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession) itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession), because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

When one goes directly to the Jesus' words as recorded in the Holy KJV N.T. one goes to spirit. When one relies, in any way, on other men to get information and guidance, this communion with and awakening to, spirit is never achieved.

However it is actually only through one's own spirit and the Spirit of Jesus that one communes with the Holy Spirit Who is God. Then 'the God' becomes one's God.

However when one is ministered to or taught by Moses, the physical Jesus, Peter, other popes, bishops. pastors, priests etc. one has made these men one's god:

Matthew: 22 King James Version (KJV)
32 I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.

Abraham, Isaac and Isaac's generations were led by spirit and Spirit and 'the God' (Who is Spirit, the Holy Spirit) became their God.

On the other hand, Ishmael and his generations did not become spirit and Spirit people. They did not come onto 'the God' Who is Spirit. They remained Jews and other O.T./ten commandments people. They continues to be led by Moses and his ten commandments which makes one 'the dead'. And so, Moses, a man, remain their god. 'The God' (Who is a 'not seen' Spirit) did not become their God. They were also made 'the dead' and 'the God' is not the God of 'the dead'.

Up to this day a billion strong traditional Christian do not go directly to Jesus' words in the Holy KJV N.T.. These are spirit. Instead, like Ishmael, they go to men, the likes of Moses, the physical Jesus, Peter, other popes, bishops. pastors, priests etc.

Therefore the god of a billion strong traditional Christians are men and not 'the God', who is Spirit Who must be accessed personally and privately and individually through one's own spirit and the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession.

By using Moses, the physical Jesus, Peter, other popes, bishops. pastors, priests etc. one killeth spirit. This totally deny one any possibility of making 'the God' one's God. This is to make men one's god.

Making and having 'the God' as one's God is totally about achieving direct individualized, personal and intuitive communion with the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession through one's own heart/spirit.

The O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments, parables, canons, Moses, the physical Jesus, Peter, other popes, bishops. pastors, priests etc. constitute traditions of 'men' and men gods. These are a religion. Religions are for 'the dead'. Religions were found to killeth spiritual awareness. This deny one from have 'the God' as one's god. This is essentially man (Satan) ruling over man.

Christianity is anchored on direct individualized, personal and intuitive communion with the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession through one's own heart/spirit. This is have communion with 'the God' Who is the Holy Spirit. This is how one makes 'the God' one's God.

The above is a tradition of God and 'the God'. This is Christianity.

Christianity is not a religion (something based on the dogma of man/men) but a spiritual tradition (something based on spirit and Spirit).

Christianity is anchored on each person freely and liberally, ruling over his own spirit based destiny in perfect harmony with the Will/Spirit of God. This is made possible by the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession.

Among the O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments, parables, canons, Moses, the physical Jesus, Peter, other popes, bishops. pastors, priests etc., the physical Jesus was the highest expression of a man.

Of what possible consequence can O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments, parables, canons, Moses, the physical Jesus, Peter, other popes, bishops. pastors, priests etc. be when the physical, 'seen', earthly, flesh and blood, temporal, son of man Jesus denounced himself, took physical death and went away so as to make His Spirit, the Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession, the Lord:

John: 16 King James Version (KJV)
7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

1 Corinthians: 15 King James Version (KJV)
35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.

2 Corinthians: 3 King James Version (KJV)
17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

Gurucam
August 17th, 2017, 06:11 AM
Jesus never appointed Peter, the vicar of Christ. Peter was Satan.

Peter & Co. stole that title from Paul and usurped it. Peter fooled his supporters into believing that he is not Satan. Jesus clearly identified Peter to be Satan because he savourest not the things that be of God but the things that be of man. And clearly that continue to be the theme and aim of Peter and his church.

Matthew: 16 King James Version (KJV)
22 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.
23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.

And Peter, as Satan, was given to anchor Jesus' Satanic church where 'the dead' are sent so that their spirits might be saved, in the day of the Lord Jesus. This is far from Christianity. And this is not about being a Christian in this life time:

1 Corinthians: 5 King James Version (KJV)
5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

Peter's church is about preparing their charges so that their spirit 'may be' saved in the day of the Lord Jesus. This is at some still to come day.

'The dead' means spiritually dead. Only 'the dead' can have his spirit saved. To save a person's spirit is to have 'the dead' 'converted', i.e. awakened to/become aware of their own hearts/spirits. Among those in Peter's church, 'conversion' never happens. Conversion is a future, after death, event for those in Peter's church. Conversion for Catholics can happen only in the day of the Lord Jesus (which is still to come).

Also saving one spirit does not make one a Christian. This is simply a small first step. The next step is not all all in the hands or capacity, of Peter and his church. This is the plight of Catholics.

Among Christian it is different. Among Christians, 'the dead' are 'converted' (i.e. awakened to/become aware of their own hearts/spirits) while they live on earth. Then they seek out the Spirit of Jesus within their (no longer waxed gross hearts/spirits) and they are led into all their works by precisely what this Spirit of Jesus has in mind for each of them to know, pray for, say and do, as discerned within each of their own hearts/spirits, in real time, all the time.

The above is how one follows Jesus. Jesus took the above path. Jesus was born 'the dead'. Then during his life on earth, he quickened his spirit. That is, he cease being 'the dead' and became spiritually aware. Then he created and sustains, for himself, the Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession as his own spirit. Then he died physically (gave-up his physical body) and 'rose' to spirit heaven as the Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession to serve those who literally follow this path.

To follow Jesus one has to do the same. One has to be converted from being 'the dead' and become spiritually aware (i.e. awakened to one's own spirit). Then discern the Spirit of Jesus within one's own heart/spirit and be led by this Spirit.

What this Spirit of Jesus has in mind for each of them to know, pray for, say and do, as discerned within each of their own hearts/spirits, in real time, all the time is a perfect amalgam of 1. the ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirations which are the fabric of each of their own hearts/spirits and 2. the Will/Spirit of God.

The above is all about three things: 1. one's living spirit, 2. the living Spirit of Jesus and 3. the real time Will/Spirit of the living God.

When one is led by the Spirit of Jesus in the above manner one does the above two things in perfect harmony. One serves one's own spirit while one soweth to Spirit in perfect harmony. These are the two requirements to be Christian. Everything else that you were told, about being Christian, came from 'the dead' who include false prophets and unawares false spying brethren and are all totally corruption and foolishness.

The above is how one soweth to Spirit and reap eternal life. Such a one differs in no way from Jesus Christ (except that He is Lord of all). Then when such a one dies physically, he is separated from his dead physical body and rise to heaven, clad only in his spirit body, in three days, to be like an angel in spirit heaven.

Peter's tradition is far from being a Christian. Nothing like the above happens to those who follow Peter and co. Nothing like the above can or do happen in Peter's church.

At best Peter's tradition is about being buried inside the earth, in hell with Satan when one dies physically, for an indefinite stay, with the hope that one will eventually be awakened to one's spirit in the day of the Lord Jesus.

Peter's commission is the above and it is define as follows in the Holy KJV N.T.:

1 Corinthians: 5 King James Version (KJV)
5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

Christianity or being a Christian, is not at all about being buried in hell inside the earth with Satan.

Christianity or being a Christian, is about awakening to one's own spirit while one is physically alive and then communing with the Spirit of Jesus within one's own heart/spirit. Then being healed by the Spirit of Jesus while one lives. And rising to spirit heaven, in three days after physical death, to be like an angel in heaven.

The Christian tradition was not rendered onto Peter. This tradition was rendered onto only Paul.

Peter's commission is anchored on the ten commandments which are for 'the dead'.

Paul's commission is anchored on righteousness of God that is without the ten commandments which is for spiritually aware people who are 'in Christ:

Galatians: 2 KJV N.T.
7 But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter;

The gospel of circumcision is righteousness that is with the ten commandments.

The gospel of uncircumcision is righteousness of God that is without the ten commandments:

Romans: 3 KJV N.T.
19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

Spiritually aware people are 'delivered from' the ten commandments (the thou shall not covet' commandment) so that they can serve their spirit. Spiritually aware people are under righteousness of God that is without the ten commandments.

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

Jesus' idea for those who become Christians in this life time is exemplified by and anchored on, Paul and only Paul (from among all those people back then, disciples et all).

There can be no representative or proxy for Christ on earth. Christ has nothing to do with any thing physical. Each person must discern 'Christ' within each of their own heart/spirit or achieve absolutely nothing:

Ephesians: 3 King James Version (KJV)
17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,
18 May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;
19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.
19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.

At best Paul may be considered the vicar of Christ because from among all of them back there, only Paul achieve live communion with Christ, in the above manner:

Galatians: 1 King James Version (KJV)
1 Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead;
11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
15 But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb, and called me by his grace,
16 To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood:

Gurucam
August 17th, 2017, 08:14 AM
Peter got his knowledge and appointment, the carnal/physical/man way. This is the satanic/child of the flesh way. Peter got his knowledge and appointment from the physical, 'seen' flesh and blood, earthly, temporal, son of man Jesus who was not the Lord from or in, heaven:

1 Corinthians: 15 King James Version (KJV)
35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.

2 Corinthians: 3 King James Version (KJV)
17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

On the other hand Paul got his knowledge and appointment, the spirit/things of God /God way. This is the 'converted' and healed by Jesus/child of God way. Paul got his knowledge and appointment from direct individual and personal communion with the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal Son of God Jesus Who is the Lord from and in, heaven.

Gurucam
August 17th, 2017, 08:19 AM
Imagine some Catholic priests are given by their tradition and their religious bosses, to called themselves 'Father'. Have no doubt, this is to be given by one's boss to call oneself 'God'.

In this tradition Father is God. The above is exactly how men become god for other people. And so deprive these unfortunate people the possible opportunity to have 'the God' as their God.

Theirs is a multi level earthly (seeking and storing treasures on earth) marketing enterprise.

Matthew: 22 King James Version (KJV)
32 I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.

Who are 'the dead'. 'The dead' are people who make men their god. Moses gave the ten commandments and the ten commandments, killeth. The ten commandments makes one and/or keeps one 'the dead'.

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.
11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.

The gospel of circumcision is anchored on the ten commandments which killeth spiritual awareness. This gospel was committed onto Peter. Peter and his church are for 'the dead':

Galatians: 2 KJV N.T.
7 But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me (Paul), as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter;

'Father' is God. Catholics cannot distance themselves from:

1 Corinthians: 8 KJV N.T.
6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

Unimaginable evil prevailed falsely in the name of Jesus Christ and Christianity.

Do you realize that Peter was the vicar of 'the dead', and not the vicar of Christ. 'Catholics are 'the dead' and they do not become awakened to their spirits while they live. They have to wait until the day of the Lord Jesus. When Catholics die physically, they are buried inside the earth, in hell, with Satan.

They go to hell inside the earth, with Satan, to wait indefinitely in the hope of being awakened to their spirits in the day of the Lord Jesus. Some are inside the earth, in hell with Satan for millenniums. The above is the practice in Peter's church.

The following revelation from the Holy KJV N.T. concur with the above and clearly defines Peter commission/church:

1 Corinthians: 5 King James Version (KJV)
5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

Fact is, Paul was the vicar of Christians (Christ). Christians are people who become spiritually awakened in their lifetime and are healed by the Spirit of Jesus (as discerned within each of their own hearts./spirit. And when they die they rise out of/separate from, their dead physical bodies. Then they rise in three days, to be like angels in heaven. They are not buried inside the earth together with their dead physical bodies, period.

Of course if you talk to some Catholics, their ego are like very large hot air balloons. They foolishly and erroneously believe that Peter, their human/man leader is the vicar of Christ. They perceive themselves to be best things since slice bread. They fail to realize that Peter's church is of and for, 'the dead'.

Catholics fail to realize that they are 'the dead' and not qualified or given, to even follow Jesus. They are not even called to be Christians, far less to be chosen to be Christians.

When Catholics die physically, they are buried in hell inside the earth with Satan/Peter. Whereas, when Christians die physically, they rise in three days to be like angels in heaven.

On what basis do Catholics believe that they are the best thing since sliced bread?

Are they not truly foolish? Indeed they are what they are. 'The dead' will inevitably gravitate to 'dead' leaders. However why would they hold the idea that they are the best thing since 'sliced bread'?

Gurucam
August 17th, 2017, 05:06 PM
Of course if you talk to some Catholics, their ego are like very large hot air balloons.

They foolishly and erroneously believe that Peter, their human/man leader is the vicar of Christ. They perceive themselves to be best things since slice bread. They fail to realize that Peter's church is of and for, 'the dead'.

Fact is, the gospel on circumcision was committed onto Peter.

Galatians: 2 KJV N.T.
7 But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me (Paul), as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter;

The gospel of circumcision is the O.T.Mosaic/ten commandments. However the ten commandments killeth, i.e. the ten commandments makes one the dead':

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.
11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.

The above say that Peter's church is of 'the dead' (i.e. made-up of spiritually dead people) because the gospel of circumcision which makes one 'the dead' was committed onto Peter.

The following also confirm the above (independently by way of another revelation). The following confirms that Peter, who was identified to be Satan by Jesus, was given to anchor Jesus' Satanic church were 'the dead' are indeed sent to prepare them so that their spirits may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus:

1 Corinthians: 5 King James Version (KJV)
5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

However until the spirits of Catholics may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus, they sent to hell inside the earth with Peter/Satan.

So all Catholics, including Peter and all other popes, bishops etc. when they physically die, they are buried inside the earth in hell. They are waiting there, in the hope that they may be awakened to each of their own spirits in the day of the Lord Jesus. There is no guarantee.

Gurucam
August 17th, 2017, 05:42 PM
All humans posses two bodies:

1 Corinthians: 15 King James Version (KJV)
35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven

And it is not about saving one's physical life or one's physical body which are destroyed by wars and physical disasters on earth. It is about having a saved spirit while one live on earth so that one can be alive when one physically die, (by whatever means).

Wars or other killing on earth destroy, remove and/or relegates only human physical/natural bodies. Everyone's spirit bodies survive.

However, if there is a war on earth, 'the dead' will be very seriously jeopardized. 'The dead' describe people who are 'dead to their spirit body.

When 'the dead' die physically their spirits survives, however being unaware of their spirits they are totally unaware.

This means that, when they die physically, they stay with their dead physical bodies in total unawareness. The consequence of this is that they are dragged together with their dead physical bodies into the depths of earth, in hell, with Satan . . . with no way of getting out of hell.

On the other hand, Christians (the chosen few authentic ones), do not suffer the above fate.

Christians are people who are converted and healed by the Spirit of Jesus.

To be 'converted' is to cease being 'the dead' (i.e. dead to one's spirit) and to become awakened to/aware of one's own spirit and can function through their own spirit bodies.

Therefore when 'converted' people loose their physical bodies in war or other forms of physical death and as expected, their spirit body survives. Then they remain aware of their spirit body and can continue to function through their spirit body. They are not simply dragged, any which way, with their dead physical body.

In fact converted people, by operating through their spirit, can determine their own direction in the spirit world after they die physically.

If during their life on earth, 'converted' people had move to the next step and become healed by Jesus. When they physically die and are in the spirit realm, clad only in their spirit bodies, they are rescued by the Spirit of Jesus and taken to God's kingdom of heaven in the spirit realm.

Therefore all calamities on earth, including wars are seriously dangerous and terminal only for 'the dead'

Therefore prevention of calamities on earth, including wars should be the serious preoccupation of 'the dead' and not the converted.

However 'the dead' are a huge group on earth. 'he dead' include all 'physically violent', 'weapon building' and 'war mongering' people. And they are their own worse enemy and they do not realize their serious and terminal folly. It does not matter whether or not they 'win' the physical war. At all events they loose.

They are literally 'the dead who are burying each other. When 'the dead' dies they go straight to hell, inside the earth. with Satan. Indeed this is how Jesus expect and let, 'the dead to bury their dead'. Jesus is quite fine with 'the dead burying their own kind through their wars, killing devises and killings on earth.

Mark: 8 King James Version (KJV)
36 For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?

Matthew: 8 King James Version (KJV)
22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.

The question is who are 'the dead'. 'The dead' are billions of people who discern wisdom in, esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments, even in the slightest way.

'the dead are all the old guards and rulers on earth, who killed and conquered and claim the lands of others by conquest and/or oppressed and enslave others through physical, big business and other devises . . . they were the principalities, powers, etc.of the now old dying world. Their rule and presence on earth has ended.

Ephesians: 6 King James Version (KJV)
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

For 2000 odd years converted people have wrestle 'the dead' who are
1. 'flesh and blood' people and
2. 'principalities' and 'powers' and rulers of the darkness of this world and
3. perpetrators of spiritual wickedness in high places.

The above include all ten commandments/Mosaic/O.T. people

The rule of 'the dead' has ended. They will soon be burying each other inside the earth, in hell with Satan through their own physical destructive actions.

Indeed for the past 2000 odd years Jesus simply left the dead to bury each other. The final total burial of the dead by the dead, seen soon at hand.

No one else but 'the dead' are seriously and terminally jeopardized by wars and other physical disasters on earth. They are destine to bury each other inside the earth, in hell, with Satan through their own new technology:

Matthew: 24 King James Version (KJV)
40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

The above describes teleportation of 'the dead', off the surface of earth, through black hole portal to hell inside the earth, with Satan . . . because they are entangled with physicality and not spiritually. And as of recently spirituality (not physicality) came to rule on the surface of earth.

The final removal of all 'the dead'/children of the flesh from the surface of earth had to coincide with their (the dead) discovering teleportation through black hole portal, according to entanglement.

Now the dead are capable of and will totally bury each other inside the earth, in hell, with Satan.

The above is how Jesus 'let the dead bury their dead'. Jesus have always simply let the dead bury each other their own way. The dead are set for a grand final exit out of here, by their own actions.

Gurucam
August 17th, 2017, 07:33 PM
Romans: 12 King James Version (KJV)
19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.

Matthew: 8 King James Version (KJV)
22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.

Jesus vengeance is against 'the dead'. Jesus was denied, persecuted, tortured and kill by the Jews who are 'the dead'. The Jews discern wisdom in, esteem, use, invoke and promote the ten commandments which makes and keeps, one 'the dead':

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.
11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.

1 Thessalonians: 2 KJV N.T.
14 For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews:
15 Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men:

The ten commandments killeth, i.e. makes one 'the dead':

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

The ten commandments killeth, i.e. makes one 'the dead' and Jesus instruction is 'let the dead bury their dead':

Matthew: 8 King James Version (KJV)
22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.

Jesus' vengeance is against all people who esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments instead of transgressing the ten commandments so as to serve one's own spirit in harmony with the Holy Spirit.

Therefore Jesus's vengeance is against all O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments people. These are not only Jews and Moslem. These are also a billion strong traditional Christians and most other people behind principalities and power of the world, up to recently.

Fact is a billion strong traditional Christians are in that unfortunate boat (receive the vengeance of Jesus..

A billion strong traditional Christians discern wisdom in, esteem, use, invoke and promote the ten commandments.

They are all 'the dead'. They are 'the dead who bury their dead'. They are not the ones who follow Jesus. Jesus' attitude to this billion strong traditional Christians (i.e. the dead) is, 'let them bury each other in hell, inside the earth, with Satan.

And indeed the billion strong traditional Christians, by esteeming, using, invoking and promoting the ten commandments (by their choice) are 'the dead' who do bury each other in hell, inside the earth, with Satan.

A billion strong traditional Christians did not and do not heed Jesus. They did not abandon and transgress the ten commandments so as to serve their own spirits in harmony with the Holy Spirit.

In fact they commit a double offense (against Jesus) of denying, desecrating and corrupting Christianity. They do this by promoting the ten commandments as a part of Christianity. The ten commandments are not a part of Christianity. Christianity is anchored on transgressing the ten commandments so as to serve one's own spirt in harmony with the Holy Spirit. Christianity is anchored on righteousness of God that is without the ten commandments:

Romans: 3 KJV N.T.
19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

A billion strong traditional Christians inevitably bury each other in hell inside the earth, with Satan and Jesus gets his vengeance.

Also, it is not likely that Jesus will rescue from their graves, those who while they lived on earth, esteemed, used, invoked and promoted the ten commandments. They are 'the dead' and Jesus was quite pleased to let them bury each other in hell, inside the earth, with Satan. And they seem destine to stay there, as far as Jesus is concerned.

Jesus instructed 'let the dead bury their dead'. Clearly Jesus had and have no intention of rescuing them from their graves inside the earth, in hell, with Satan

May be Moses might help such unfortunate people.

Most everyone who call themselves Christians have desecrated and corrupted authentic Christianity and so denied Jesus. It seems that Jesus will have his vengeance on these people according to:

Romans: 12 King James Version (KJV)
19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.

Only a few have not done the above. They are the chosen few.

Matthew: 22 ing James Version (KJV)
14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

A billion strong (ten commandments esteeming) traditional Christians (and growing) foolishly and very erroneously believe that they are the chosen few. They are 'the dead' and so they have not even been called to be Christians, far less to be among the chosen few.

The situation is very seriously and dangerously terminal and these guys carry-on with blindness and self-righteous arrogance. They are a billion strong, at no event can they be a or the, chosen few.

Gurucam
August 18th, 2017, 01:36 AM
The fullness of time is at hand.

All old leaders and their institutions, on the surface of earth, were relevant on the surface of earth because up to recently the surface of earth was in a Dark Age. This changed recently. The surface of earth is in the Age of Enlightenment in Christ. This is the Age of the Spirit of Jesus, an Age of Spirit.

Now all old leaders and their institutions are being diluted, dismissed and buried. They are 'the dead' who are no longer relevant on the surface of earth. They are being diluted and dismissed from the surface of earth. Soon they will be dispatched to hell, inside the earth, with Satan/Peter, in one's total scoop.

(I want to suspect that Ms. Clinton was and is aware of this transformation of the world from it flesh orientation to spirit orientation . . . hence her obvious desperation when she lost the last U.S.A. presidential election. She seemed to be 'seeing the writing on the wall'. That is, she seem to perceive that she is among the old who who are being diluted, dismissed and buried.)

All old leaders on the surface of earth, have been and are, 'the dead who have been and are, burying their dead (i.e. their own kind)'.

Matthew: 8 King James Version (KJV)
22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.

The above defines Jesus attitude and disdain toward 'the dead'.

Jesus' vengeance is against 'the dead'. Jesus' favor only those who follow Him:

Romans: 12 King James Version (KJV)
19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.

Jesus' vengeance is against 'the dead'. Jesus' favor only those who follow Him.

The dead are everyone who esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments:

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.
11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.

'The dead' describe all people who esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments instead of transgressing the ten commandments so as to serve one's own spirit in harmony with the Holy Spirit;

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

Therefore, Jesus' vengeance is against all people who esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments instead of transgressing the ten commandments so as to serve one's own spirit in harmony with the Holy Spirit.

Jesus's vengeance is against all O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments people. These are not only Jews and Moslem. These are also a billion strong traditional Christians and most other people behind principalities and power of the world, up to recently. These world leader are all entangled with the concept of oppressing and ruling people and imprisoning them into servitude, under man made ideals and laws like the ten commandments. These global leaders have serve flesh and corruption.

These global leaders (in the area of politics, industries finance, religion etc.) are all 'the dead'. They are
1. 'flesh and blood' people and
2. 'principalities' and 'powers' and rulers of the darkness of this world and
3. perpetrators of spiritual wickedness in high places:

Ephesians: 6 King James Version (KJV)
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

These global leaders delight in 70 or so years of a very good material life on earth while they live here but are invariably delivered to hell inside the earth with Satan, for eternity, when they physically die.

Up to recently, these global leaders were more powerful than the Spirit of Jesus on earth. However, during this time, the Spirit of Jesus was far more powerful than these leaders in the spirit realm. Fact is, up until recently Jesus' power and kingdom was not of this world. During the past 2000 odd years Jesus is the Spirit of Jesus and his power and kingdom was in the spirit realm where everyone goes when they physical die.

John: 18 King James Version (KJV)
36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.

And indeed, these global leaders all go to the spirit realm when they physically die. They do not escape Jesus. The sad fact is that these people are spiritually dead (their heart/spirits are waxed gross/covered over) while they lived on earth. And when they physically die, they remain spiritually dead. They are totally dead (unaware) in the spirit realm.

The spirit realm is where Jesus (clad only in his Spirit body) has his kingdom. In this kingdom Jesus (clad only in his Spirit body) sits on his throne of glory on the right hand of the Holy Spirit. This is where Jesus has his vengeance against 'tho dead' who ignored and abused God's creation while they lived on earth.

These abusers include all our global leader up to this day. When they physically die and are left only in the spirit realm. Jesus do not help them. During their lives on earth, they were 'the dead (dead to their own spirit bodies).

In the spirit realm the dead remains dead to their own spirits and are therefore totally dead in the spirit realm. In their dead and unaware state, these people need help in the spirit realm. Jesus offers none. Jesus' attitude towards the dead is 'let the dead bury their dead' and vengeance is His.

In fact Jesus makes sure that they are dispatched to hell inside the earth, with Satan. They remain spiritually dead in their dead physical body and they are literally dragged by their dead physical bodies into hell, inside the earth, with Satan for what seems to be all eternity.

As of recently the Spirit of Jesus also became more powerful than global leaders on the surface of earth. And as of recently, the kingdom of Jesus (as the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession) is both on the surface of earth and in the spirit realm. God's kingdom of heaven has come to earth:

Matthew: 6 King James Version (KJV)
10 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.

All old global leaders have now lost their strangle hold on earth. They are all being diluted. dismissed and being buried. They, (together with all 'the dead'/'children of the flesh'/Satanic people) will soon be all dispatched off the surface of earth, to hell inside the earth, with Satan, for what seems to be for all eternity.

'The dead' are children of the flesh like Ishmael. They are also called Satan.

'The dead/children of the flesh/Satan will not be left on the surface of earth, to inherit the surface of earth, together with children of promise/children of spirit and Spirit/children of God, like Isaac:

Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.

Matthew: 24 King James Version (KJV)
40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

Gurucam
August 18th, 2017, 02:52 AM
The fullness of time is at hand.

All old leaders and their institutions, on the surface of earth, were relevant on the surface of earth because up to recently the surface of earth was in a Dark Age. This changed recently. The surface of earth is in the Age of Enlightenment in Christ. This is the Age of the Spirit of Jesus, an Age of Spirit.

Now all old leaders and their institutions are being diluted, dismissed and buried. They are 'the dead' who are no longer relevant on the surface of earth. They are being diluted and dismissed from the surface of earth. Soon they will be dispatched to hell, inside the earth, with Satan/Peter, in one total scoop.

This transformation is beyond human control. It is under grace of God.

I want to suspect that Ms. Clinton was and is aware of this transformation of the world from it flesh orientation to spirit orientation . . . hence her obvious desperation when she lost the last U.S.A. presidential election. She seemed to be 'seeing the writing on the wall'. That is, she seem to perceive that she is among the old who are being diluted, dismissed and buried, to give way to the New.

Do not be surprised that President Trump is a force of different and a force of change.

President Trump does not have to be the force of the New reality on earth. He can simply be the force that destroy the old that is no longer relevant on the surface of earth . . . so as to make way for the New under someone else.

Forces of change is rising all over the world so as to prepare the surface of earth for rule of the Spirit of Jesus, on the surface of earth.

The sad fact is that the Spirit of Jesus will show no regard for the physical life of 'the dead/children of the flesh/Satanic people.

On the whole, the Spirit of Jesus has no interest in saving or not saving, the physical life of anyone:

Matthew: 16 King James Version (KJV)
25 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.

Matthew: 16 King James Version (KJV)
21 From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.
22 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.
23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.

Jesus identified Peter to be Satan/Devil, because he (Peter) tried to have Jesus save His physical life and loose His Spirit life of glory in God's kingdom of heaven. Therefore do not expect the Spirit of Jesus, Who is now ruling powerfully on the surface of earth to be concerned, in any way, about saving human lives on earth.

There will inevitably be reduction in the world's population. 'the dead' will be teleported or other wise removed from the surface of earth. 'The dead' are 'children of the flesh', like Ishmael. They will not be heir to the surface of earth, in God's kingdom of heave, on earth together with children of promise/children of spirit and Spirit/children of God, like Isaac.

Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.

Matthew: 24 King James Version (KJV)
40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

It seems that Ms. Clinton believes that the old guard/old leaders have a right to determine and preside over, this separation (the pending reduction of the world's population) event. Fact is this separation is anchored on each person entanglement.

A person's entanglement is at the level of each person's heart/spirit. This is one's truth. The dead will be teleported out of here according to each of their inherent entanglement. 'The dead' will simply be out of here in the fraction of a second through black hole portals to hell inside the earth, with Satan, because, at their core, they are entangled with fresh and other things of 'the dead'.

Absolutely no human can or ever, influence this event, which is as follows:

Mark: 13 KJV N.T.
26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.
27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven

Matthew: 25 KJV N.T.
31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

In the above, Christians/children of God (i.e. Abraham, Isaac and Isaac's generations) are the chosen few. They are sheep. On the other hand, 'the dead/children of the flesh, i.e. Ishmael and his generation are goats.

Of course 'the dead' will perceive that they can influence, manage and/or escape this event through their own volition and own effort. Spiritually aware people know better. They know that they must simply ride this out, peacefully, while 'the dead' are moved into panic and desperation.

The old leader and guards are among 'the dead'. For the past 2000 odd years they controlled and ruled over most of earth's population. They are used to having their way. This is no longer possible.

Jesus' kingdom is now on earth, through His Spirit. 'The dead' (who include all old leaders) can no longer rule here. Soon they will all be out of here.

Ms. Clinton apparent crying, dissatisfaction, panic, desperation etc., after loosing the U.S.A. Presidential election, may just be very well informed, for her.

However Ms. Clinton's display must, at least be, a wake-up call for the masses. The old is indeed dying to give way to the New. Change is on the surface of earth.

President Trump, as a President of the U.S.A., is indeed new and different. He is there to change all old things, under grace of God. If per chance, he waver in his grace, this will not stop the impending and continuing change. At all events his actions would be correct and appropriate, because the Spirit of Jesus rule everywhere and all things, on the surface of earth at this time.

Gurucam
August 18th, 2017, 06:30 AM
Daniel: 12 KJV N.T.
4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased

The time of the end is at hand. My posts and threads on this forum, testifies that 'knowledge is increasing'. This is the word that were shut-up and the book sealed. The time is at hand for the word to be confirmed in absolute clarity. This is my mission in the body of Christ, under grace of God.

And the behavior of Ms. Clinton and her close followers, after the U.S.A. presidential election is literally, "many shall run to and fro".

The old guards are running to and fro, every where.

This is because the old guard and their old ideas are being rejected and dying every where to give way to new guards and their new ideas.

One cannot deny that President Trump represents or is, a new idea of a U.S.A. president.

And, of course Ms. Clinton represented or was forged in, the old idea of a U.S.A. president. And clearly she and her old presidential version has passed-on.

Some democrats continue to campaign and flog the old worn out system even after the results of the election were officially declared. Some continue to campaign and flog the old worn out system, up to this day.

Change is indeed difficult for some, especially 'the dead'. However 'the time of the end' is firmly anchored in and on, change.

And change is consuming the world, every where, at this time. And dismissal, death and destruction of the old (i.e. 'the dead', at all levels) is a very integral part of change in the time of the end. These are currently, unfolding, every where.

The Brexit vote was another message to the Old guard to clean out their desks and pack their bags. Their ride has ended.

Gurucam
August 18th, 2017, 07:38 AM
On the whole, the Spirit of Jesus has no interest in saving or not saving, the physical life of anyone:

If and when 'the dead' dies physically, they get buried inside the earth, in hell with Satan with out the possibility of parole.

On the other hand, if and when Christians die physically, they rise in three day to be like angels in spirit heaven. At any and all events they can or will return to the surface of earth in human physical bodies when God's kingdom of heaven is established here.

When God's kingdom of heaven is established on the surface of earth, there can be and will be no children of the flesh/'the dead', on the surface of earth, any more.

Therefore at any event, Jesus' and God's aim of filling the surface of earth with only children of God, without children of the flesh would be accomplished, any which way:

Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.

Matthew: 8 King James Version (KJV)
22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.

Where then is the sting in death and the victory of the grave?

There is no sting in death for the living, who are the Christians. Death is a grave sting only for 'the dead'.

The following is addressed only to Christians:

1 Corinthians: 15 King James Version (KJV)
55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?

Physical death cannot affect Christians. Physical death cannot sting Christians because they remain aware of their own spirits and rise to heaven in three days, after death, clad only in their spirit bodies. Therefore physical death is the opposite of a sting, for Christians.

Also the grave cannot have victory over Christians because the grave can claim only the dead physical body of deceased Christians. Christians would have risen out of their dead physical bodies, clad only in their spirit bodies. Therefore the grave have victory only over the dead physical bodies of Christians.

The above is not so for Catholics.

The above is not so for those who esteem, use, invoke and promote the ten commandments. They are 'the dead', i.e. dead to their spirits. When 'the dead' die physically, they cannot and do not rise out of their dead physical bodies. They remain unawares, in their dead physical bodies. Then they are buried in the earth, in hell with Satan together with their dead physical bodies.

This means that for, 'the dead', physical death is a grave sting and their grave has victory over them.

Therefore wars, natural disaster etc. which kills and all other forms of physical death is a serious and terminal curse for 'the dead' . . . but not for Christians.

However the sting of death and the victory of the grave are both self inflicted (i.e. inflicted by the dead on themselves).

Fact is, it is only 'the dead' who initiate wars and precipitate natural disaster. They, by nature, ignore the Spirit/Will of the living God, which is about God protecting his creation from all things.

Instead, 'the dead' delight in the laws of man and men (like the ten commandments and canons, etc.) which killeth. These keep them or make them 'the dead' and so, for them, physical death has a serious sting and their graves are victorious over them. Both, physical death and their grave, claim them totally.

This is how 'the dead' literally bury each other inside the earth, in hell, with Satan.

Physical death serves Jesus agenda for the dead. They are are sent to hell, inside the earth, with Satan (this relates to, 'let the dead bury their dead').

Physical death also serve Jesus agenda for those who follow him (i.e. Christians). They are sent to spirit heaven (this relates to 'follow me').

There is only celebration for Jesus with respect to the physical death of humans. Do not believe that Jesus will try to prevent and/or avoid the physical death of humans.

Wars and holocausts events were and are, opportunities for the quickening of Jesus' agendas. This is the Christian position.

Gurucam
August 18th, 2017, 03:19 PM
Matthew: 16 King James Version (KJV)
21 From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.
22 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.
23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.

John: 21 King James Version (KJV)
17 He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, Feed my sheep.

First Jesus identified Peter to be Satan. Then Jesus had to ask Peter, three times if he loved him.

Jesus also appointed Peter/Satan to a church where the dead are sent to be prepared so that their spirits may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus:

1 Corinthians: 5 King James Version (KJV)
5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

Jesus also instructed:

Matthew: 8 King James Version (KJV)
22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.

Also the gospel of circumcision was committed onto Peter:

Galatians: 2 KJV N.T.
7 But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me (Paul), as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter;

The gospel of circumcision is the O.T.Mosaic/ten commandments. However the ten commandments killeth, i.e. the ten commandments makes one 'the dead':

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.
11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.

The question arises why would the gospel of circumcision (the ten commandments) be committed onto Peter when this gospel was found to be onto death (makes one 'the dead') and Jesus idea for 'the dead' is to 'let the dead bury their dead'.

And indeed the people in Peter's church are literally buried inside the earth for an indefinite stay, in the hope that their spirits may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

Seems that Jesus did not trust Peter/Satan. It seems that Jesus may have outsmart Peter into serving his (Jesus') agenda of having the dead (i.e. Peter/Satan) bury his counterparts inside the earth, in hell, with himself (Satan) . . . because 'the dead' are children of the flesh and they are not destine to inherit the surface of earth, in God's kingdom of heaven, together with children of God:

Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.

It seems that the people in Peter's church (the dead) were misled into believing that their spirits may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus because Jesus knew that Peter and his gang will:
1. deny Him (Jesus),
2, deny authentic Christianity and
3.deny the gospel of uncircumcision (which is righteousness of God that is without the ten commandments)
4. go about their own righteousness.

Clearly the above is what happened.

Jesus did indicate that vengeance is His (Jesus did expect to have vengeance

Romans: 12 King James Version (KJV)
19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.

It seems that by committing the gospel of circumcision (the old, O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments/Jewish system, which was found to be onto death), onto Peter, . . . . Jesus acknowledged that Peter had essentially remained a Jews and Satanic and he (Peter) was prepared to undermine Him (Jesus) and His Christian teaching while falsely claiming to a good disciple.

Therefore Jesus outsmarted Peter into burying himself and his followers inside the earth, in hell, when they physically die . . . and so get rid of them from the surface of earth, permanently.

Fact is, Jesus did make it clear to all, that Peter was Satan/Devil.

Therefore if people refuse to recognize Jesus' clear declaration (that Peter was Satan) and instead heed and embrace Peter/Satan then Jesus would not stop those people from burying each other inside the earth, in hell with Peter/Satan.

Gurucam
August 18th, 2017, 04:05 PM
Galatians: 2 KJV N.T.
7 But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me (Paul), as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter;

The gospel of circumcision (which was committed onto Peter) is the O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments/Jewish gospel. This gospel was found to be onto death.

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.
11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.

This O.T./Jewish gospel of circumcision would be committed onto Peter only if it was know that Peter was and would remain Jewish and Satan and deny and undermine both, Jesus and Christianity. And therefore, Jesus had no love for Jews and Satan and was seeking vengeance:

John: 18 King James Version (KJV)
36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.

1 Thessalonians: 2 KJV N.T.
14 For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews:
15 Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men:

Romans: 12 King James Version (KJV)
19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.

Gurucam
August 18th, 2017, 04:28 PM
Christianity is anchored on transgressing the ten commandments and canons etc. so as to serve one's own spirit in harmony with the Holy Spirit:

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

The above says that the 'thou shall not covet' commandment is done-away for those who can serve in the newness of spirit. In fact the above instructs newly spiritually awakened people to transgress the 'thou shall not covet' commandment so as to serve each of their own spirits.

The above is supported and endorsed by:

Galatians: 5 King James Version (KJV)
18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Acts: 13 King James Version (KJV)
39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
6 Likewise the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession) also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession) itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession), because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

How come Catholics and traditional Christians do not know the above fact?

Did Jewish/Satan/Peter & Co. corruptly commandeered and usurped Christianity and undermine and covered-up the above Christian fact?

Seems that Jewish/Satan/Peter & Co. played and continue to play a vicious revenge game with Jesus (who condemn them) and the real victims are unsuspecting Catholics and traditional Christians, who when they die, seemed to have been tricked into being buried in the earth in hell, with Satan/Peter, for all eternity.

At least you guys have to acknowledge that Peter tricked you guys into believing that he was not Satan.

Are you guys awakening to truth, now. The time of the end is at hand, knowledge is increasing. The book is now unsealed and the word is no longer shut-up. The word is being presented, here, openly, clearly and totally (like never before):

Daniel: 12 KJV N.T.
4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased

. . . soon, masses of people will be running to and fro, like headless chickens. In fact they have already started. Are you guys going to be among these sad and unfortunate (gone crazy) people?

Gurucam
August 19th, 2017, 02:20 AM
Matthew: 23 King James Version (KJV)
9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.

Peter/Satan continued to deny and defy Jesus by calling his senior Satanic operatives, 'Father'.

John: 13 King James Version (KJV)
36 Simon Peter said unto him, Lord, whither goest thou? Jesus answered him, Whither I go, thou canst not follow me now; but thou shalt follow me afterwards.
37 Peter said unto him, Lord, why cannot I follow thee now? I will lay down my life for thy sake.
38 Jesus answered him, Wilt thou lay down thy life for my sake? Verily, verily, I say unto thee, The fowl shall not crow, till thou hast denied me thrice.

Matthew: 16 King James Version (KJV)
21 From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.
22 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.
23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.

Fact is it was known to Jesus that Peter would continue to be Satan. The following defined the church which Peter was appointed to anchor by Jesus. It was clearly expected that Peter & Co. would remain Satan until the day of the Lord Jesus and that they church will also remain operative until the day of the Lord Jesus:

1 Corinthians: 5 King James Version (KJV)
5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

The information above say that the dead are sent to Peter/Satan not to awaken them to their spirit in their current life time but to prepared them in some way that they may be awakened to their spirits, in the still to come, day of the Lord Jesus.

Therefore Catholics (the people in Peter's church) are the 'the dead'. That is, they comprise, the body of 'the dead'. And not the body of Christ/Christians.

And when Peter and his followers die physically, they are still 'the dead' (i.e. spiritually dead). They have no awareness in the spirit realm. They are buried together with their dead physical bodies, inside the earth, in hell with Satan/Peter, in the hope that: they will be awakened to their spirits in the (still to come) day of the Lord Jesus.

Peter and his church including Catholics, are quite literally, 'the dead who bury their dead', in Jesus statement/instruction:

Matthew: 8 King James Version (KJV)
22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.

Catholics are not the one who can or do 'follow Jesus' (to the mansion in God's house in spirit heaven which Jesus went ahead to prepare for those who follow him). Catholics are 'the dead who bury their dead'

Clearly Peter denied that the above describe his appointment, his appointed church and his followers and his method of operation.

Peter's continuing Satanic nature and his ongoing denial and defiance of Jesus is a serious indictment which Catholics so easily and foolishly deny to their own serious detriment.

Gurucam
August 19th, 2017, 05:49 AM
John: 13 King James Version (KJV)
36 Simon Peter said unto him, Lord, whither goest thou? Jesus answered him, Whither I go, thou canst not follow me now; but thou shalt follow me afterwards.
37 Peter said unto him, Lord, why cannot I follow thee now? I will lay down my life for thy sake.
38 Jesus answered him, Wilt thou lay down thy life for my sake? Verily, verily, I say unto thee, The fowl shall not crow, till thou hast denied me thrice.

Clearly Jesus knew that Peter was not sincere. Jesus knew that Peter would not lay down his life for him. And this was well after Jesus identified Peter to be Satan. Peter did not change. Peter was not Satan by temptation. Peter's dominant nature was Satanic. Peter was literally Satan and continued to be Satan.

Clearly Jesus knew that Peter would deny him three times before it actually happened. Jesus did not have to wait until Peter denied him three time before he knew that Peter would deny him three time.

Also, Jesus knew that that Peter and his followers would continue to be Satan. This is why Jesus appointed Peter (who he identified to be Satan) and his followers to anchor his Satanic church for the dead' and this church was to be operational until the day of the Lord Jesus:

1 Corinthians: 5 King James Version (KJV)
5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

A person whose spirit must be saved is 'dead to his/her spirit'. Such a person is called 'the dead. (i.e. the spiritually dead'.

1 Corinthians: 15 KJV N.T.
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

Everyone has two bodies. A natural or physical body and a spirit body. One whose spirit must be saved is one who is dead to his spirit body. Such a one is called 'the dead' or a child of the flesh because he is aware of only his flesh/natural/physical body.

'Children of the flesh' are Ishmael and his generations. They are not destine to be heir to the surface of earth, in God's kingdom of heaven, in the fullness of time, together with children of God/Christians. Children of God/Christians are Abraham, Isaac and Isaac's generations:

Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.

Luke: 13 King James Version (KJV)
28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.

The dead (who relate to 'let the dead bury their dead') are the generation of Ishmael. And 'the dead' are sent to the church of Satan/Peter, so that their spirits may be saved in the the day of the Lord Jesus. There is no firm promise in 'may be". The revelation does not say 'will be'.

Therefore Peter/Satan seemed to have been cunningly fooled and used by Jesus to bury the dead/children of the flesh inside the earth, in hell, with Satan/Peter, himself, for all eternity.

The above would achieve the continuing aim of Jesus. This is to have only children of God/Christians heirs to the surface of earth, without any children of the flesh/the dead', in the fullness of time.

That is, Peter/Satan & Co. are 'the dead who bury their dead', inside the earth, in hell, with each other, for all eternity?????

. . . of course if all your information and knowledge about your deliverance and salvation is what Satan/Peter and his operatives tell you, (i.e. you do not read the Holy KJV N.T. carefully, open-minded-ly and for your self), then, it will serve Satan/Peter & Co. to fool, deceive and slew you.

Satan is another name for 'the dead' and children of the flesh. They are people 'in the flesh' They all savourest the things of man (i.e. 'seen', flesh and blood and earthly things) and not the things of God (i.e. not seen' spirit and Spirit things):

Matthew: 16 King James Version (KJV)
21 From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.
22 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.
23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.

Jesus instructed,

Matthew: 8 King James Version (KJV)
22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.

Therefore Satan/Peter and his church are totally about 'the dead burying their dead'. And rest assured that Satan/Peter (of 2000 odd years ago) is in hell inside the earth, with his charges, still ruling over them, satanically.

. . . the question is, knowing the above, are you comfortable in the church of Satan Peter & Co.?

There is another option which is Jesus Christian church as exemplified and anchored by Paul, where people are not at all sent to hell, inside the earth with Satan/Peter. When they physically die they rise in three day, like Jesus Christ to be like angels in spirit heaven.

It is very possible that the huge egos of Catholics is their major pitfall. Their egos block them from seeking and discerning truth. They are always more overly proud and more pleased to claim that they are 'the best thing since sliced bread', simply because they are Catholics.

It is indeed poetic justice when the fact is that their prized leader, Peter continued to be both Jewish and Satan and for 2000 odd years Satan/Peter & Co., have been deceiving them, killething them, slewing them and delivering them into earth, in hell, with Satan/Peter, for what now seems to be, all eternity.

Now Satan/Peter & Co. (i.e. Popes, bishops and Catholics et all) must be totally out of here (i.e. out of the surface of earth).

Peter & Co. can no longer be significant in this new spiritual Age of Enlightenment in Christ, that has dawned on the surface of earth.

The time/age/relevance of Peter & Co. was the Age of 'the dead' and Darkness on earth, This has now passed. Christians have wrestle against them for millenniums. Our wrestling with them has ended. They are going to be totally out of here:

Ephesians: 6 King James Version (KJV)
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

Popes have a long history/tradition of denying 'not seen' spirituality and endorsing 'seen' physicality/carnality. This is the way of the dead' who delight in Antichrist-ism.

The final separation and dispatching of the 'the dead' (those whose spirits must be saved) and the spiritually aware (Christians), on earth, is at hand.

The sad fact is those whose spirit must be saved are in the church of Satan/Peter & Co. and they have been declared to be 'the dead' who inevitably, unwittingly and willingly bury each other inside the earth, in hell with their original leader, Satan/Peter and . . . they will continue to inevitably, unwittingly and willingly do this sad and unfortunate thing to each other, up to the very end . . . because they are so very wise.

Gurucam
August 19th, 2017, 09:16 AM
Galatians: 3 KJV N.T.
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Galatians: 4 King James Version (KJV)
4 Now I say, That the heir, as long as he is a child, differeth nothing from a servant, though he be lord of all;
2 But is under tutors and governors until the time appointed of the father.

1 Corinthians: 15 King James Version (KJV)
35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.

John: 14 King James Version (KJV)
12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

The above say, Christians differs in no way from Jesus Christ, except for one thing. Jesus is Lord of all. In all other way Christians can equal Jesus Christ or be better than Jesus Christ. However no one can be the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal Son of God Jesus who is the Lord in and from, heaven.

This means that when Christians die physically, they rise out of their dead physical bodies, clad only in their spirit bodies. Then in three day (like Jesus Christ) they rise to be like angels in spirit heaven, in the mansion in God's house which Jesus went to prepare for those who literally follow Him.

When Christians die, physically, their spirit bodies do not remain in/with their dead physical bodies to be dragged into the earth, in hell with Satan/Peter. Christians do not go this way.

This means that Catholics are not Christians. They cannot and do not follow Jesus. Catholics are the dead who bury their dead, inside the earth, in hell, with Satan/Peter for what now seems to be an eternal stay.

Gurucam
August 19th, 2017, 09:31 AM
It is very interesting that Catholics esteem Mother Mary who contributed only the physical, earthly, flesh and blood temporal side of Jesus.

Catholics seemed to have abandon the physical 'seen' and temporal son of man Jesus (who was a combination of the physical/carnal side and the Spirit side).

They also abandon the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, Jesus Who is currently, the Lord from and in spirit heaven:

1 Corinthians: 15 King James Version (KJV)
35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.

For Catholics every thing is about flesh and blood and all other things that related to 'the dead who bury their dead' inside the earth in hell with Satan/Peter.

Clearly, 2000 odd years ago, Peter/Satan went to hell, inside the earth when he died physically. And since then, his men/operatives on earth (i.e. Popes bishops etc. of the Catholic church) have been shanghaiing unsuspecting people on earth and deceiving and cunningly sending them to hell inside the earth, to serve Satan/Peter, in hell inside the earth.

One cannot deny that Catholics and their church are 'the dead who bury their dead'.

Catholics are the ones who, after physical death, are buried inside the earth with their dead physical bodies.

Jesus instructed:

Matthew: 8 King James Version (KJV)
22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.

Catholics are not the ones who, after physical death, literally follow Jesus by rising out of their dead physical body, clad only in their spirit bodies. And then rising to spirit heaven, in three days, to be like angels in spirit heaven, in the mansion in God's house which Jesus went ahead to prepare for those who literally follow him.

May be Catholics (Peter/Satan, other Popes, bishops etc.), by esteeming Mother Mary (the physical source of Jesus), are confining themselves to their Jesus given mission which is limited to receiving only 'the dead' (i.e. people whose spirit need to be saved), as defined by:

1 Corinthians: 5 King James Version (KJV)
5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

Why then do they claim that Satan/Peter was the vicar of Christ? At best, Satan/Peter was the vicar of 'the dead'.

And why do they want to represent and speak for, Christians who are not 'the dead'?

Christians are humans who cease being 'the dead' and became 'converted', (i.e. spiritually awakened/spiritually aware), while they were alive on earth and were healed by the Spirit of Jesus. This achievement is totally beyond Satan/Peter and his church.

Christians (babes in Christ) are under a different level of humans. Christians are under tutors and governors. These are not Satan/Peter or popes or bishops or pastors or priests etc. (of the Old system):

Galatians: 4 King James Version (KJV)
4 Now I say, That the heir (Christians), as long as he is a child, differeth nothing from a servant, though he be lord of all;
2 But is under tutors and governors until the time appointed of the father

Gurucam
August 19th, 2017, 05:48 PM
All physically dead Catholics are buried inside the earth, in hell with Satan/Peter waiting and hoping that their spirits may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

Jesus instructed:

Matthew: 8 King James Version (KJV)
22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.

Catholics are not Christians. They cannot and do not follow Jesus. Catholics are 'the dead who bury their dead', inside the earth, in hell, with Satan/Peter for what now seems to be an eternal stay.

Why an eternal stay? Jesus instructed, 'let the dead bury their dead'. Clearly Jesus is not prepared to help 'the dead'.

Also 'the dead' are children of the flesh who are not destine to inherit the surface of earth, together with children of God, in the fullness of time, when God's kingdom of heaven comes to the surface of earth:

Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.
23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.
29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.

God's kingdom of heaven is destine to come to the surface of earth, in the fullness of time:

Matthew: 6 King James Version (KJV)
10 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.

Also Jesus gave no guarantee that, in his day he will save the spirits of the dead who go to Satan/Peter's church. Jesus gave no guarantee that he will save the spirits of Catholics who are buried in the earth, in hell, with Satan/Peter:

1 Corinthians: 5 King James Version (KJV)
5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

'May be saved' does not mean 'shall be saved'

One has to realize that a certain level of distrust existed between Jesus and Peter, 2000 odd years ago. In fact Jesus made many disclosures to indicate to us that he did not trust Peter.

Fact is, Peter was Satan and Satan is 'the dead', And Jesus' attitude towards and agenda for 'the dead was and continue to be, 'let the dead bury their dead'.

Therefore Jesus had to out-smart Peter who was Satan and 'the dead' but who believed himself to be a 'big deal', a head honcho. Peter believed that he was first in line for any church from Jesus. However Peter was Satan and therefore one among 'the dead'. Jesus could have Peter serve only in this capacity.

Jesus had to cunningly use Satan/Peter/the dead to serve his agenda of 'letting the dead bury their dead'. And indeed this is exactly what Satan/Peter/the dead and his church do. They are 'the dead who bury their dead'. Little do they know that their burial inside the earth, in hell with Satan/Peter was permanent.

Jesus held out no actual promise with respect to saving the spirits of the dead who were burred in hell, inside the earth, with Satan/Peter.

The following confirm that Jesus did not take Peter to his words. The following confirm that Jesus did not trust Peter:

John: 13 King James Version (KJV)
36 Simon Peter said unto him, Lord, whither goest thou? Jesus answered him, Whither I go, thou canst not follow me now; but thou shalt follow me afterwards.
37 Peter said unto him, Lord, why cannot I follow thee now? I will lay down my life for thy sake.
38 Jesus answered him, Wilt thou lay down thy life for my sake? Verily, verily, I say unto thee, The fowl shall not crow, till thou hast denied me thrice.

John: 21 King James Version (KJV)
17 He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, Feed my sheep.

Matthew: 16 King James Version (KJV)
21 From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.
22 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.
23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.

Matthew: 14 KJV N.T.
28 And Peter answered him and said, Lord, if it be thou, bid me come unto thee on the water.
29 And he said, Come. And when Peter was come down out of the ship, he walked on the water, to go to Jesus.
30 But when he saw the wind boisterous, he was afraid; and beginning to sink, he cried, saying, Lord, save me.
31 And immediately Jesus stretched forth his hand, and caught him, and said unto him, O thou of little faith, wherefore didst thou doubt?

Peter and the string of popes are people of little or no faith. They are people of physicality. They do not subscribe to things that are 'not seen'. They subscribe to things that are 'seen'.

At any event Satan/Peter got to anchor Jesus' satanic church which is for 'the dead'.

Paul was appointed to anchor Jesus spirit and Spirit based Christian church.

Catholics and even the billion strong traditional Christians, routinely ignore, deny and corrupt the above revelations so as to elevate Peter according to their whim.

The above action and habit carried a very serious terminal curse for past-on Catholics and past-on traditional Christians.

However there is still hope for those Catholics and traditional Christians who are still alive on earth if they correct their sad, unfortunate and uninformed ways, in these last days.

Hope that you get the fact that Peter was Satan and Satan is 'the dead'. Satan defines one who savor the things of man and not the things of God. It is the same for 'the dead'.

'The dead' defines one who is not awakened to/aware of his own spirit. Therefore 'the dead' is aware of only his flesh/natural/physical body. Such a person can savor only the things of man and not the things of God:

1 Corinthians: 2 King James Version (KJV)
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Therefore when Jesus instructed Christians to 'let the dead bury their dead', He was instructing Christians to let Satan/Peter (who was 'the dead'), bury his own kind, inside the earth, in hell with Satan/Peter.

Fact is, Satan, Peter, the dead and children of the flesh are all the same people. And none of them are destine to inherit the surface of earth, together with children of God/Christians, when God's kingdom of heaven comes to the surface of earth, in the fullness of time. They are all destine to be dispatched to hell, inside the earth, with Satan/Peter. The church of Satan/Peter has been, unwittingly, serving this end for the past 2000 odd years.

The above are truths, as recorded in the Holy KJV N.T.

There is a very serious sting in the Holy KJV N.T. for those who desecrate, deny and corrupt it . . . as is now becoming crystal clear.

Gurucam
August 20th, 2017, 09:55 AM
Matthew: 8 King James Version (KJV)
22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.

Jesus had two agendas:
1. One is 'follow me'. This agenda was exemplified by Paul and committed onto Paul.
2. The other is 'let the dead bury their dead'. This agenda was exemplified by Peter and committed onto Peter and his church and continue to be anchored on Peter and his church.

Although Satan Peter physically died, Jesus' second agenda ('let the dead bury their dead') continued to be anchored on Satan/Peter.

This is because Satan/Peter was 'the dead' (dead to his spirit) while he lived. And when he physically died he continue to be dead to his spirit. This means that when he died physically he was totally unaware in the spirit realm (where we all end when we die physically).

This means that when Satan/Peter physically die he could do nothing for himself. He remained unaware in his dead physical body and was dragged by his physical body where it naturally goes, which is inside the earth, in hell.

Therefore when Satan/Peter and all other of 'the dead' physically die, they are buried inside the earth, in hell, with their dead physical body. And after a while they awaken to be ruled by Satan/Peter inside the earth, in hell.

And indeed, for the past 2000 odd years, Satan/Peter's successors and church on earth, continue to recruit 'the dead' on earth to become Catholics by condition them, so that when they physically die, they willingly and unwittingly bury each other inside the earth, in hell with Satan/Peter.

However it is different for those who follow Jesus.

Those who follow Jesus were like Paul. They cease being 'the dead' by becoming awaken to/aware of, their spirit bodies. This makes then functional through the intuitive faculties of their spirit bodies. This enabled them to achieved personal, direct, private and intuitive communion with the Spirit of Jesus through each of their own heart/spirits.

Then, while they live on earth, the abandon all other agendas and ideas (like the ten commandments etc.) and serve this agenda which come from the Spirit of Jesus, through each of their own hearts/spirits.

That is. they are led into all of their own works by precisely what the Spirit of Jesus has in mind for each of them to know, pray for, say and do as discerned within each of their own heart/spirit. This how to follow Jesus and become a Christian. So people who live in the above manner become are the Christians. They are a few, the chosen few.

The above has very serious and diviner benefit.

When Christians physically die, (because they were aware of their spirit and can and do, functional through their spirit while they physically live on earth) they remain aware of and functional through, their own spirit, (which survive their physical death), in the spirit realm.

This means that they cannot simply be dragged by their dead physical body into the earth, in hell, like Satan/Peter and other of 'the dead'.

In fact Christians cannot be and are not buried with their dead physical bodies, inside the earth, in hell, with Satan/Peter.

There is no sting of death and victory for the grave, for Christians. There is the sting of death and victory for the grave for Catholics and others of 'the dead':

1 Corinthians: 15 King James Version (KJV)
55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?

When Christians physically die, they leave (separate from) their dead physical body, clad only in their spirit bodies. They are in the the spirit realm, clad only in their live spirit bodies, with awareness and functionality. They can decide on a few places, where they go in the spirit realm. They certainly do not go into the earth, in hell, with Satan.

In fact, because they had live communion with the Spirit of Jesus through each of their own hearts/spirit, while they physically lived on earth and they were led by the Spirit of Jesus, . . . Jesus knew them and they know Jesus. And when they physically die and are aware in their spirit bodies, The continue to know them and they continue to know the Spirit of Jesus Who continue to inform, lead and guide them to God's kingdom of heaven in the spirit realm and into the mansion in God's house which He went ahead to prepare for these people who follow him.

Are you foolish Catholics and traditional Christians, going to put-up foolish arguments and corruption, in denial of the above which is the essential fabric of truth, in the Holy KJV N.,T.? .

The above is the final gospel of 'the word' in total clarity and purity. 'The word' were previously sealed in the Holy KJV N.T.. 'the word' is now being confirmed in clarity and purity because the time of the end is at hand and knowledge is increasing:

Daniel: 12 KJV N.T.
4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased

Gurucam
August 20th, 2017, 11:26 AM
Mark: 13 KJV N.T.
10 And the gospel must first be published among all nations.

The above must and will occur just before the final time of the end.

My posts and threads are the final gospel of 'the word' in total clarity and purity. 'The word' were previously 'shut-up and sealed in the Holy KJV N.T.. 'the word' is now being confirmed in clarity and purity because the time of the end is at hand and knowledge is increasing:

Daniel: 12 KJV N.T.
4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased

The questions that arise are: Is knowledge increasing at this time and, Why or how come knowledge is increasing at this time.

I have claimed that my posts and threads testify to increasing knowledge. And they are knowledge that are literally 'the word' that were shut-up but were in the Holy KJV N.T., the book, which was sealed.

You have to investigate, if necessary and make your own judgment on the above claim.

The other question is, Where and how did I come to get this increased knowledge.

The answer is as follows:

Recently because of realignment of the Holy angels in heaven (which are the planets, etc.) the Spirit of Jesus (which was always very powerful in the spirit realm) became also very increased in power on the surface of the earth.

The above relate to Jesus coming to 'sit on his throne of glory on the surface of earth (He has long been on his throne of glory in the spirit realm):

Matthew: 25 KJV N.T.
31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:

Before this realignment of heavenly bodies, Jesus kingdom was not on the surface of earth but in the spirit realm. Everyone who died physically enter the spirit realm where the Jesus throne of glory and power existed.

Prior to the recent realignment of heavenly bodies, Jesus did not have mush power or control over humans on the surface of earth. Up to recently the following defined Jesus' position:

John: 18 King James Version (KJV)
36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.

With the recent realignment of heavenly bodies (the Holy Angels) the above changed drastically. This realignment cause Jesus' Spirit to be very strengthened on the surface of earth. Now Jesus' kingdom is also, the surface of earth.

It is Jesus Spirit Who dwells in our hearts/spirits and passes knowledge:

Ephesians: 3 King James Version (KJV)
16 That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man;
17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,
18 May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;
19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.

Romans: 8 King James Version (KJV)
26 Likewise the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession) also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession) itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession), because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

John: 16 King James Version (KJV)
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

(The Spirit of Jesus is the Spirit of Truth and the Spirit of Intercession. The Spirit of Jesus is not the Holy Spirit.)

Therefore, with the strengthening of the Spirit of Jesus on the surface of earth, Christians (i.e. those who get all their knowledge from the Spirit of Jesus by searching each of their own hearts/spirits) would now get seriously increased knowledge, in increased clarity.

The above is increased knowledge in the time of end.

I always got my knowledge and guidance from the Spirit of Jesus, through my own heart/spirit.

With the recent strengthening of the Spirit of Jesus, on the surface of earth, the Spirit of Jesus is passing increasing knowledge to me, with increased clarity.

This increased knowledge pertains to the 'shut up' words which were in the 'seal' book, the Holy KJV N.T.:

Daniel: 12 KJV N.T.
4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased

This is what I post. I post 'increased knowledge' from the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession that pertains to 'the Word that was shut-up' in the Holy KJV N.T., i.e. 'the book that was 'sealed'

'The 'shut up' words which were in the 'seal' book, the Holy KJV N.T.' simply describes the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven that were hid from the dead', i.e. deliberately obscured until the time of the end.

The mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven are 'the word' and the essence of the book, the Holy KJV N.T.. The word is no longer shut-up and the book, the Holy KJV N.T. is no longer sealed.

My posts and threads are anchored on the word and the book, the Holy KJV N.T. in clarity and purity. The word is no longer 'shut-up' and the Holy KJV N.T. is no longer sealed . . . knowledge is increased.

Clearly then, we are in the time of the end.

What am I, if not very fortunate and blessed, to serve this mission, under grace of God, in the body of Christ.

And what are you guys and this forum, if not equally fortunate and blessed to share this mission, under grace of God, in the body of Christ.

Gurucam
August 20th, 2017, 01:35 PM
Daniel: 12 KJV N.T.
4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased

The 'shut up' Word and the 'seal' book describe the contents of the Holy KJV N.T. and the Holy KJV N.T.

The above revelation says that although the Holy KJV N.T., has 'the word', the word is 'shut-up' and the Holy KJV N.T. is 'sealed'. And knowledge will increased only in the time of the end.

Therefore the actual gospel of 'the word' cannot be the Holy KJV N.T. (which is 'sealed') in its present format.

The Holy KJV N.T. is not the gospel of and for, 'the time of the end'. It is lacking because 'the word' will be not be shut-up in a sealed book, in the time of the end. In the time of the end knowledge will increase.

The above means that more knowledge will have to be added to the Holy KJV N.T. and increased clarity must be added to the Holy KJV N.T., in the time of the end.

This would be a New 'time of the end' gospel. And indeed this is the gospel that must be published among all nations, according to:

Mark: 13 KJV N.T.
10 And the gospel must first be published among all nations.

Therefore those who perceive that bible or the Holy KJV N.T. by it self, is the gospel that must be published among all nations 'before the time of the end', are indeed very deceived.

A 'seal' book with the word, 'shut-up', describes the Holy KJV N.T.. This book is likened to a candle, under a bushel. This book defies a basic Christian principle. This book cannot be 'the time of the end' gospel. This book could only be a book for temporal use, like the ten commandments:

Matthew: 5 King James Version (KJV)
15 Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house.

Luke: 8 King James Version (KJV)
17 For nothing is secret, that shall not be made manifest; neither any thing hid, that shall not be known and come abroad.
18 Take heed therefore how ye hear: for whosoever hath, to him shall be given; and whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken even that which he seemeth to have.

Luke: 12 (KJV)
2 For there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; neither hid, that shall not be known.

'The time of the end' gospel will not be a 'sealed' book, with the word, 'shut-up'.

'The time of the end' gospel will be a new book with 'the word' expressed in purity, clarity and totality. And this is the gospel that will be published among all nations. This will be published through the w.w.w. which is man's physical replication of The Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession who passes all knowledge.

All 'time of the end' events will involve the latest discoveries, technologies and inventions of man.

Including the following:

Matthew: 24 King James Version (KJV)
40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

The above describes 'teleportation' through 'black hole portals' according to one's 'entanglement'. This is how the final removal of all 'the dead'/'children of the flesh' from the surface of earth, to hell, inside the earth, with Satan/Peter, will occur.

Man always create and put in place, his own method of elevation or demise which grace of God, simply use appropriately or have men use it appropriately to serve grace of God.

Man's creations/inventions are likened to a 'lighted candle' and the world's population is likened to 'all that are in the house

Matthew: 5 King James Version (KJV)
15 Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house.

'Teleportation' through 'black hole portals' according to one's 'entanglement' is an idea in Quantum Mechanics. Quantum mechanics defines the natural laws which operates in the quantum field. The quantum field is the reality that exist very deep within the physical. The commonly known and commonly used physical laws of science does not apply or work at this quantum level.

A totally different set of natural laws rule, operate and work at this inner Quantum level of matter (which seems to be the Holy Spirit).

Things at this level exist as probability waves. In this quantum level (also called the Quantum field) every thing and every possibility seem to exist, all at the same time, as probabilities. A particular material/physical thing or event happens (is created and sustained) only when and as soon as, a human inter-relate with this field of all possibilities.

That is, as soon as one inter-relate with this wave field of all possibilities (even by simply looking at or hearing it) it cease being a wave of all possibilities and become the material expression/reality of one's entanglement.

One's entanglement is the deeply seated ideas, beliefs interests, needs, desire and aspirations that one loves very dearly. These two things comprise the essential fabric of one's own spirit/heart.

That is one's own heart/spirit is created and sustained by one's love for a specific set of ideas, beliefs interests, needs desire and interests. These cause 'groaning which one cannot utter'. One own spirit/heart is the essential anchor of one's physical existence on earth. This is one's unique 'all truth'.

The quantum field is the Holy Spirit.

When a human heart/spirit inter-relates (commune with) the Quantum field of all possibilities (the Holy Spirit), this field, which exist as a wave of all possibilities, collapses into the specific material expression of the things and/or events which that person loves in his own heart/spirit. This is the mechanics of the Quantum field (the Holy Spirit) which is at the core of all humans and at all other aspects of creation. A humans' core is his heart/spirit.

So far, quantum mechanics/scientists know that by inter-relating with the quantum field which exist as waves, it collapses in to particles.

That is, they know that if a human looks at the wave existence of the quantum field, it collapses/changes into being a unique particle that is connected to the particular human observer. This is all they know so far.

From this essentially half-baked information these quantum scientists perceive/believe that they can control/determine the physical world according to their own arbitrary volition.

In fact many motivational speakers have picked up on the above idea of creating their material reality by simply collapsing this quantum field of all possibilities, simply through their own chosen arbitrary volition. They are teaching/selling this half-baked conclusion. They are misleading all who take them seriously.

Fact is, the wave of all possibilities in the quantum field, collapses to materialize (particularize) only specific deeply seated ideas, beliefs, interests, needs desire and interests that comprise the very fabric of one's spirit/heart.

The collapse is not arbitrary, according to any other idea which a person may have, hold, make-up or acquire.

The ideas, beliefs interests, needs, desire and interests which are the fabric of one's own heart is one's entanglement. One is entangled with the quantum field with only the specific deeply seated ideas, beliefs, interests, needs desire and interests that comprise the very fabric of one's spirit/heart..

One's capacity to properly inter-relate with and properly manage, the Quantum field is anchored on the things in one's spirit. It is one's spirit that enables one to have the quantum field materialize things.

One's own spirit/heart and the reality which is known as the quantum field are of the same fabric.

The above idea of materializing/manifesting one's physical reality by collapsing the wave of all possibilities of the quantum field, is the idea which Jesus captured, utilized and introduced for his followers, as Christianity. This is the idea and anchor of Christianity.

The Spirit of Jesus is a force/way of inter-relating with the Quantum field, (which is called the Holy Spirit) according to ideas, beliefs, interest, needs, desires and aspirations of one's own heart/spirit.

This force/way (i.e. the Spirit of Jesus) cause this wave Quantum field, the Holy Spirit, (which is the field of all possibilities) to collapses into the ideas, beliefs, interest, needs, desires and aspirations that are the essential fabric of one's own heart/spirit

The above is how one's own kingdom of heaven (which is the ideas, beliefs, interest, needs, desires and aspirations of one's own heart/spirit) becomes materially manifested on the surface of earth, as a specific and component expression or dimension of the Quantum field.

The above describes the Christian way of life in terms of Quantum Mechanics.

Humans, through Quantum researchers, have (unwittingly) reached the science behind the Christian way of life. However it is not only a science. It is also (simultaneously) an art. To fully understand and function in, the Quantum field researchers and operatives must posses a related Gift of the Spirit. A Gift of the Spirit is the perfect amalgam of an art skill and a science skill, in a particular area that consumes one's (default) love and devotion.

Quantum researchers are still (unwittingly) faltering by not properly marrying their quantum field theories with the ideas of Jesus' Christianity.

Here, I have attempted to bring their Quantum field discoveries, a little further, by adding a few missing pieces and so show that its root and core are essentially the same as Jesus' authentic Christianity (not traditional Christianity).

However, just on its own, the fact that human quantum scientists have come to the scientific understanding/working of the quantum field is significant, as a marker of the dawning of a new spiritual age on earth.

Fact is, the quantum field and the Holy Spirit describe the same thing.

However our quantum scientists do not seem to realize that each human quantum scientist needs a specific and related Gift of the Spirit, in order to competently function in the quantum field,. . . . i.e. if they do not want to be teleported to hell inside the earth thought black hole portals that they may open, with their Hadron Collider, at CERN,.

Further research into the nature of the quantum field must now turn into internal intuitive research. This will separate actual quantum/spirit scientists from locally/earthly certified ones.

The dawning of Quantum knowledge on earth marked the dawning of the rule of Christianity, on the surface of earth.

Now, the real rulers of the surface of earth are one's own spirit in harmony with the Holy Spirit through the force/Spirit of Jesus. This describes the new entanglement that is linked to the new dimension that the surface of earth has now conformed too. Some call this the opening of the fifth dimension on earth. Or the dawning of the Age of Aquarius.

This dawn could have started a hundred or more years ago. Since then the spirit and Spirit side of things are getting brighter and brighter.

This dawning heralded and continue to support the Age of Enlightenment in Christ, on the surface of earth. This is the conversion of the surface of earth from a carnal/physical age to a new spirit/spiritual age. Now the dimension of space/time will be commonly accessible to earthling who must and will be, only spiritually awaken/spiritually aware people.

The dimension of space/time is likened to the Spirit of Jesus who passes all knowledge. In space/time, past, present and future knowledge and events exist simultaneously and is known 'first hand' by one who can actually function in and commune with, the dimension of space/time.

By 'going' into the dimension of space/time one can get into the very innermost circle and come to know Jesus' authentic Christianity, his motives, his ideas and his agendas in total purity and clarity, live and direct. One can literally come to know the mind of Jesus when he was a human on earth, 2000 odd years ago. And also what is his current 'mind' as the Spirit of Jesus.

Those whose entanglement is not according to the above level of intuitive spirit and Spirit based awareness and lifestyle, will be teleported out of here. They will not die. They will simply be teleported to an alternative dimension/reality that is in line with their spiritually dead entanglement/reality. That is, 'the dead' will simply be 'out-of-here' in a flash.

It is simply that the surface of earth has conformed to a new spirit and Spirit based reality/dimension that is no longer suited to or supportive of, the reality/entanglement of 'the dead' (i.e. the spiritually dead).

This awareness is far more deeply seated and profound than simply intellectual/left-brain functionality and knowing. (this is to be on the left side of Jesus and God)

This awareness is anchored on right-brain, intuitive/spirit actualization and knowing. (this is to be on the right side of Jesus and God)

Having an intellectual grasp of the above concepts is not good enough to give rise to a Christian entanglement with the actual mechanics of the quantum field and the intuitive capacity to function competently in the Quantum field.

A Christian entanglement with the actual mechanics of and the intuitive capacity to function competently in, the Quantum field is centered on a Gift of the Spirit.

The current path that is taken by Quantum scientists is without the relevant gift of the Spirit. These scientist are entangled with physicality with out spirit. Their works will 'bite back, at them, first.

Indeed they may create black hole portals into the earth, in hell, with Satan/Peter, however they will be first to be sucked into hell inside the earth to join Satan/Peter, simply because of their entanglement with physicality with no subjective/personal spirit basis.

At any even, if our quantum scientists do not open black hole portal to hell inside the earth where Satan/Peter rules, these will be opened through grace of God.

Opening black hole portals to hell was essentially a routine and on going event only in the spirit/quantum realm where people go when they die physically. This was countered with opening white light portal to spirit heaven.

Now these events and skills has come to functionality, physically, among the living on the surface of earth. This is a component of the spiritual age of enlightenment in Christ, on the surface of earth. This is literally, God's kingdom of heaven coming to the surface of earth. And any semblance of hell being totally removed from the surface of earth.

Hope that this post is informing and helpful.

Gurucam
August 21st, 2017, 04:47 AM
Please re-read the above post. Refining it is on going. This is the human way of love and devotion.

Our own individual spirits and the Holy Spirit has two basic components. One is the same for both and the other different.

The common component is love and devotion. Both, our spirit and the Holy Spirit are created, sustained by and anchored on, love and devotion.

However our human spirit is created, sustained and anchored on our love of and devotion to, a limited set of ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirations. This is the spirit/will of humans. It is different for each human.

In the theories of quantum mechanics, the limited set of ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirations which defines our individual hearts/spirit also defines our human entanglement with the quantum field.

On the other hand, the Holy Spirit is created, sustained by and anchored on, love for and devotion to, all possible (unlimited) ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirations. This is the Spirit/Will of God

The difference between our spirit and the Holy Spirit is in their ideas components. The love and devotion component is of the same fabric.

We are co-creators with God. We are on earth to express and materialize the limited set of ideas, beliefs, interests, needs desires and aspiration that are the fabric of our spirit, in God's creation, which is anchored on all possible ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirations.

Each human can collapse the wave function of the quantum field only according to the precise and limited set of ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirations which are the fabric of his own heart/spirit.

We are here, on earth, to collapse the the quantum wave field (which is the Holy Spirit) into particles that creates and sustains the unique and limited set of ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirations, that are the fabric of each of our own unique spirit.

The above is the essential bases of a life 'in Christ'. This is the lifestyle that makes one Christian, a child of God and one who is saved and delivered into one's own kingdom of heaven and God's kingdom of heaven, simultaneously, on the surface of earth and else where.

This life style is not subjected to any ideal or law, like the ten commandments etc..

Oh how great is Jesus . . . and our devoted and tireless quantum scientists.

. . . although our quantum scientists should seek enlightenment, in order to serve and flourish completely and ultimately.

Re-reading the above post (i.e. # 183 above) can only help. It can never hurt.

Truth is a very complex and unlimited thing.

Catholics and traditional Christians have and hold such dimwitted and limited ideas which they parrot under the foolish belief that they know and have all truth. They reduce God to their own small and very limited (spiritual dead) perceptions. And believe that they are the best thing since sliced bread.

They are generally stuck at the level of justifying the ten commandments. This is less than 'kindergarten sums', in the grand scheme of things. At any event the ten commandments are totally and unequivocally 'out the door' for Christians and the surface of earth.

One will have to be buried inside the earth, in hell, with Satan/Peter in order to keep themselves under the ten commandments. For this is were 'the dead' are destine. And the ten commandments killeth and are only for 'the dead'.

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.
11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.

Matthew: 8 King James Version (KJV)
22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.

The choice of heaven or hell is very wide open to each human, based on his/her own perceptions. However, 'the spiritually awakened/spiritually aware person' and 'the dead' person, are very different and they do have totally different perceptions which take them to two different 'places'.

The spiritually awakened/spiritually aware person follow Jesus to heaven.

'The dead bury each other inside the earth, in hell, with Satan/Peter. And of course those who in the least way esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments are 'the dead' or becomes 'the dead' and stays 'the dead'.

Gurucam
August 22nd, 2017, 04:29 AM
These instructions/information came from Jesus through Paul:

The following tell us what is 'the manifest token of righteous judgment of God' that 'you may be worthy of the kingdom of God' for which 'you also suffer'.

. . . and the vengeance and wroth of Jesus toward those who persecute one for upholding 'the manifest token of righteous judgment of God' on earth.

2 Thessalonians 1 KJV N.T.
4 So that we ourselves glory in you in the churches of God for your patience and faith in all your persecutions and tribulations that ye endure:
5 Which is a manifest token of the righteous judgment of God, that ye may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which ye also suffer:
6 Seeing it is a righteous thing with God to recompense tribulation to them that trouble you;
7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;
10 When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.

However it is important to note that Paul was given to deliver information about the two different churches/commissions which Jesus set-up.

These churches/commissions are for two different kinds of people. One commission is for 'the dead' (i.e. the spiritually dead) and the other is for the spiritually aware (the converted). Only the 'converted' (those who are no longer 'the dead' and are spiritually aware) are given to follow Jesus (to heaven). 'The dead' are given to bury each other (in hell inside the earth with Satan/Peter) .

It is therefore expedient to discern to which church/commission the above instructions apply.

Also the above gives limited information. However the above also rise unlimited questions.

Of course all these questions can be had from the Holy KJV N.T., by those who knock appropriately, with the correct attitude and actualization.

It is also very important to note the following:

Matthew: 7 King James Version (KJV)
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Mark: 12 King James Version (KJV)
24 And Jesus answering said unto them, Do ye not therefore err, because ye know not the scriptures, neither the power of God?

The above says that only a few will have, know and be served by correct knowledge. Also the above says that only a few will actually know/perceive the power of God. This means that the very great majority will foolishly reduce/limit God's power to the sad level of their own very limited (carnal) perceptions:

Luke: 18 KJV N.T
27 And he said, The things which are impossible with men are possible with God.

An example of a common limited limited carnal perception (that is held by a billion strong traditional Christians and others,) is that God kingdom of heaven must be limited by the ten commandments. Limited carnal perceptions are held only by the 'the dead'. 'The dead' cannot perceive that the ten commandments must be transgressed in order to serve spirit and Spirit. They cannot have this perception until they cease being 'the dead' and become spiritually awaken.spiritually aware.

Therefore bulk beliefs (i.e. beliefs shared by a billions strong traditional Christians) cannot be correct knowledge. These incorrect information include:
1. 'Jesus will return in a physical body' also
2. 'judgement day' and 'the day of the Lord Jesus' are some, still to come, one time, future events.
3. judgement day and the day of the Lord Jesus will be physical events.
4. the physical Jesus was or is the Lord.
5. the ten commandments are a part of Christianity.
6. the gospel of circumcision and the gospel of uncircumcision are both the same

The above are all false assumption that anchor a billion strong traditional Christians. And these are just a few erroneous assumptions that are held and esteemed by this billion strong unfortunate group of people who totally ignore and dismiss the following revelation from the Jesus. (these revelations clearly tell them them that, they are far too many to know truth):

Matthew: 22 King James Version (KJV)
14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

Matthew: 24 King James Version (KJV)
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

Fact is the physical Jesus was a sign for the Spirit Jesus and there will be no more signs. Jesus has gone to the Father for all eternity. He is currently sitting on his throne of glory, clad only in his spirit body, in God's kingdom of spirit heaven.

'The day of the Lord Jesus' is an on going, 'not seen' thing since 2000 odd years.

After physical death everyone is in the spirit realm, where Jesus's throne of glory exist. Jesus rule powerfully in the spirit realm. This is where Jesus' kingdom exists. This is Jesus' kingdom. Jesus' kingdom is in the spirit realm. It is here that 'Jesus has his day', with every one (when they die physically).

Jesus is on his throne of glory in spirit heaven. He is clad only in his spirit body, as the Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God Jesus Who is the Lord in and from, heaven. He is the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession. One can reach him and commune with him only through one's own heart/spirit.

Those who denied, persecuted, tortured and killed the physical Jesus and persecuted Christians all face Jesus in the spirit realm when they die. And Jesus is very powerful in the spirit realm because this is where his kingdom resides. This is where Jesus has been having his day with everyone after each one physically dies.

Indeed, for the past 2000 odd years, Jesus' kingdom was not of this physical earthly world. It was in the spirit world:

John: 18 King James Version (KJV)
36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.

Matthew: 19 KJV N.T.
28 And Jesus said to them, "Truly I say to you, that you who have followed Me, in the regeneration when the Son of Man will sit on His glorious throne, you also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

Jesus' throne of glory is in the spirit realm where he is the Lord in heaven, clad only in his Spirit, 'not seen' and eternal, Son of God, body:

1 Corinthians: 15 King James Version (KJV)
35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven

Romans: 8 KJV N.T
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

Jesus is not waiting to have his day at some future (still to come) time. Jesus has his day every second with each person when they physically die. And he judges them and dispatches them to either heaven or hell according to their soweth-ing on earth, while they lived.

The first quote from the Holy KJV N.T., in this post says:

'the manifest token of righteous judgment of God' is that 'we ourselves glory in you in the churches of God for your patience and faith in all your persecutions and tribulations that ye endure'.

It is incumbent on every serious seeker to get to the exact meaning of 'we ourselves glory in you in the churches of God for your patience and faith in all your persecutions and tribulations that ye endure' from other appropriately supporting revelations in the Holy KJV N.T.

There are many filters revealed in the Holy KJV N.T. and one must know them all, in order to use the Holy KJV N.T., correctly. A bilion strong traditional Christians use the Holy KJV N.T,, 'willy-nilly' (any which way), corruptly and totally foolishly. They misguide themselves, err and are not chosen.

The instruction to Daniel is to shut-up the word and seal the Holy KJV N.T. until 'the time of the end' (the time of the end is not the day of the Lord Jesus. These are two different things):

Daniel: 12 KJV N.T.
4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased

One is not going to get 'the shut-up word from the sealed Holy KJV N.T.' easily. 'The shut-up word from the sealed Holy KJV N.T.' are things of God. These are discerned only spiritually. 'The shut-up word from the sealed Holy KJV N.T.' can be discerned. intuitively, only through one's heart/spirit.

A billion strong traditional Christians cannot and will not, get or have the shut-up word from the sealed Holy KJV N.T..

They are not 'converted' (i.e. they are not spiritually aware). They all still esteem, use, invoke and promote the ten commandments which makes them and keep them, 'the dead' (the spiritually dead).

Fact is one must be 'converted', healed by the Spirit of Jesus and actualize/poses an appropriate Gift of the Spirit in order to unlock the 'shut-up' words from the sealed Holy KJV N.T. This is not related to formal education:

Matthew: 13 KJV N.T.
15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

Do you find that my posts are becoming clearer and more informed according to your own perceptions? If yes, know that it is not me. It is the Spirit of Jesus because His Spirit, on the surface of earth has strengthened. There The Spirit of Jesus Who dwell in my heart/spirit is passing expanded/more knowledge according to:

Ephesians: 3 King James Version (KJV)
16 That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man;
17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,
18 May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;
19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.

Romans: 8 King James Version (KJV)
26 Likewise the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession) also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession) itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession), because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

John: 16 King James Version (KJV)
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

If you find that my posts are becoming increasingly clearer and more informed then: this means that the time of the end is at hand, because knowledge is increasing/expanding according to:

Daniel: 12 KJV N.T.
4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased [/COLOR]

Gurucam
August 22nd, 2017, 08:48 AM
Mark: 13 KJV N.T.
10 And the gospel must first be published among all nations.

'The time of end' gospel cannot be and is not, the 'shut-up' words in the 'seal' book, which is the Holy KJV N.T., which existed for past millenniums.

Daniel: 12 KJV N.T.
4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased

My threads and posts are the 'shut-up' words in the 'seal' book, which is the Holy KJV N.T., in clarity and purity. The surfacing of the information in my threads and posts are a 'time of the end' event.

My threads and posts constitute the 'time of the end' gospel. This is the gospel which must be published among all nations, at this time. This is being done through this forum, through the w.w.w..

The promise is that this gospel will be published among all nations, at this time. There is no promise that it will be read, accepted, embraced and/or used by more than a chosen few.

In fact if my posts and treads impact and are embraced by more that a few, then they are in serious jeopardy. That is my posts and threads are not likely to be the no longer (the now unmasked) 'shut-up words from the no longer sealed (the now unsealed) book (the Holy KJV N.T.).

Prophesied is that, the very great majority (i.e. all but a few) will be taken-in with corruption (distorted versions of Christianity) and therefore err and not make it to be among the chosen few.

Remember that the promise is simply that 'the time of the end gospel' will be published in all nations.

The above is said against the back-drop of,
1. 'people err when they do not know scriptures and the power of God' and
2. 'many are called and few chosen' and
3. 'many false prophets will rise and deceive many.
4. Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Among all people who in some way use the O.T. and/or the N.T., good things seems to accrue only to a chosen few, from among all of them. This is the Holy KJV N.T., position.

. . . and indeed a billion strong traditional Christian cannot be a few or 'the chosen few'. When Catholics, Jews and Moslem are added . . . well . . .

Gurucam
August 22nd, 2017, 09:42 AM
The only source for the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven is the Holy KJV N.T., in only a few deliveries which Jesus made, in private sessions, among only the disciples.

These mysteries are not at all in the O.T. or in any other manuscripts or works.

Everyone need to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven in order to inherit God's kingdom of heaven. And these are not contained in the O.T. and they are not contained every where in the Holy KJV N.T.:

Colossians: 1 King James Version (KJV)
26 Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints:

Matthew: 13 KJV N.T.
10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.

Hope that you guys notice that the above say that the mysteries of God kingdom of heaven were hid until they were given to the Saints (the disciples) only 2000 odd yeas ago.

You would not find these mysteries in the O.T.. Therefore, if you are seeking to inherit God's kingdom of heaven, (i.e. follow Jesus to heaven) the O.T. is useless and must be thrown-out.

If you are seeking to inherit God's kingdom of heaven (with or without Jesus) you must 'zoom into' and use only those few deliveries which Jesus made to only the disciples in very private sessions among only them, as recorded only in, the Holy KJV N.T.

The above is the Holy KJV N.T. position.

Everyone must realize that not every thing in the Holy KJV N.T. relates to delivery to heaven with Jesus. This is only one of Jesus' two agendas. This is 'the follow me' agenda.

Most things recorded in the Holy KJV N.T., from the physical Jesus, relate to 'let the dead bury each other inside the earth, in hell, with Satan/Peter. This is the second of Jesus' two agendas. This is the 'let the dead bury their dead' agenda.

Jesus has and openly declared two agendas:

Matthew: 8 King James Version (KJV)
22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.

Both of Jesus' agendas have been and are active and functioning.

'The dead' who are also called children of the flesh, are not destine to inherit the surface of earth, in God's kingdom of heaven, in the fullness of time, together with children of God/Christians.

Jesus agenda is to for those who follow him to be heirs and for the dead to bury each other inside the earth, in hell, with Satan/Peter:

Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.
23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.
29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.

Luke: 13 King James Version (KJV)
28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.

The Holy KJV N.T, is not to be used 'willy-nilly'. Masses of unfortunate people quote, claim esteem, use, invoke and promote revelations that are given for managing 'the dead, while erroneously believing those revelations to be for 'the spiritually aware' and Christians, sometimes with 'self-righteous arrogance

They are simply 'the dead' burying 'their dead counterparts'. They are totally in over their heads and hearts.

Matthew: 13 KJV N.T.
15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

Fact is, one has to be 'converted', healed by Jesus and posses an appropriate Gift of the Spirit to 'un-shut' the words and unseal the Holy KJV N.T.:

Daniel: 12 KJV N.T.
4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased

. . . with respect to the above no man certification or endorsement is valid. In fact those who claim and proudly (or other wise) display traditional doctorates, bachelors, pope-hood, bishop-hood etc. are simply empowered by the Satanic status quo. to further Satan-ize the masses.

Gurucam
August 22nd, 2017, 11:05 AM
The reverence which aspiring Christians, feel for the O.T. was simply and corruptly conditioned into their head by Jews, some of who masqueraded and continue to masquerade, as Christians:

The Jews did not recognize Jesus or supported his cause. In fact the Jews killed Jesus for doing away with the ten commandments for those who wish to follow him. They also undermined Christianity and persecuted Christians.

These are the people who want to 'correct' Christianity. And indeed a billion strong traditional Christians allow themselves to be fooled.

Of course, today, some Jews claim Jesus on their terms. They claim that Jesus is theirs because he was born to Jews. Indeed he was born to a Jews as their promised messiah who they did not recognize, denied and persecuted, as such, and who they killed.

Why indeed, would a billion strong traditional Christians deny and defy Jesus so as to embrace and be informed and guided, by Jews?

John: 18 King James Version (KJV)
36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.

1 Thessalonians: 2 KJV N.T.
14 For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews:
15 Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us (Christians); and they please not God, and are contrary to all men:

Galatians: 2 King James Version (KJV)
4 And that because of false brethren unawares ('the dead') brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage (under the O.T. and the ten commandments which was found to be onto death):

There are absolutely clear revelations which confirmed that ten commandments makes one and/or keeps one 'the dead' and as such the ten commandments are done away for those who can be led by their spirits (i.e. Christians).

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.
11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.

Romans: 3 KJV N.T.
19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

Acts: 13 King James Version (KJV)
39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

A billion strong evil traditional Christians falsely claim to be Christian. They esteem, use, invoke and promote the ten commandments (which makes them and keep them 'the dead'). They are the dead who bury each other. They are not the ones who follow Jesus. Therefore they are not Christians. However they claim to be Christian and promote their practice to be Christianity. This is evil.

Christianity is anchored on abandoning and transgressing the ten commandments so as to serve one's spirit, in harmony with the Holy Spirit. A billion strong traditional Christians deny and desecrate this fact so as to serve the ten commandments. And they do this while claiming to be Christian. This makes them evil.

In effect, the billion strong traditional Christians actively deny, defy and undermine both Jesus and authentic Christianity but foolishly believe that Jesus appreciate them and will save them.

Fact is Jesus avenge the above transgression when these sad and unfortunate traditional Christians (and all others who desecrate Him and authentic Christianity) physically die and are in the spirit realm where Jesus has his throne of glory, his kingdom and His power:

John: 18 King James Version (KJV)
36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.

Jesus kingdom is not on earth. Jesus' kingdom is in the spirit realm. Therefore 'the dead' (and others who desecrate and undermine Jesus and Christianity on earth) will not experience the vengeance and wrath of Jesus on earth. However they will experience the vengeance and wrath of Jesus, when they physically die and inevitably find themselves in the spirit realm:

1 Corinthians: 15 King James Version (KJV)
35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.

Jesus gets his vengeance or dispenses his kiddos, to humans, in the spirit realm, when they physically die and invariably are in only their spirit body, in the spirit realm.

The sad fact is that people arbitrarily deny, desecrate and undermine Jesus and Christianity while they live on earth (to prop-up the ten commandments, etc.) and nothing seems to happen, so they simply get braver.

The sad fact is that Jesus has his day with everyone when they physical dies and are in the spirit realm. No one gets away: Jesus always had and will continue to have his vengeance:

Romans: 12 King James Version (KJV)
19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.

Gurucam
August 23rd, 2017, 06:03 AM
One covenant pertains to 'following Jesus'. The other pertains to 'let the dead bury their dead'.

Jesus had just two agendas which he persued vigorously:

Matthew: 8 King James Version (KJV)
22 But Jesus said unto him, 1. Follow me; and 2. let the dead bury their dead.

Jesus' two agendas pertained to two different covenants, as follows:

Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.
23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.
24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; 1. the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.
25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.
26 But 2. Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.
11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.

In the above, you do notice that

1. the 'thou shall not covet' commandment is the first covenant and those who esteem, use, invoke and promote this commandment become and/or are kept 'the dead'. That is, they are in the flesh and are kept in the flesh. This covenant killeth and keeps one 'killed' (spiritually. 'The dead bury their dead' inside the earth, in hell, with Satan/Peter, under this covenant.

2. The second covenant is very different. The second covenant is being 'dead to' and 'delivered from' the thou shall not covet' commandments, so that one can transgress this commandment, so as to serve in the newness of spirit. This covenant giveth life. This covenant is about following Jesus to heaven.

Hebrews: 8 King James Version (KJV)
7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.

The first covenant was given by Moses who fooled-up the Jews. Moses did not tell the Jews that He gave the ten commandments. Also Moses lied by omission. Moses did not tell the Jews that the ten commandments must eventually be done-away-with, when the Lord, who is the Spirit of Jesus was introduced.

John: 1 King James Version (KJV)
17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:
12 Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech:
13 And not as Moses, which put a veil over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:
17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

When one cut through all the buffing and corruption of the Holy KJV N.T.:

There are two different covenants:
1. the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar. For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.
2. Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

1. The first is the earthly/flesh covenant.

The first covenant is about 'the thou shall not covet' commandment and this is the flesh covenant because:

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

The first covenant is, all of the following:
1. the O.T.
2. Moses laws and system
3. the Jewish religious tradition
4. a System based on the ten commandments
5. a system which cause one to bringing forth fruits onto death
6. a system which cause one to bring forth children of the flesh like Ishmael)
7. a system that 'killeth'
8. a system which 'let the dead bury their dead'.
9. a system that delivers one to hell.

2. The second covenant is:
1. the spirit and Spirit traditional
2. the N.T.
3. transgress the ten commandments so as to serve spirit and Spirit
4. the Christian tradition
5. follow Jesus tradition
6. the tradition which cause humans to bring forth 'fruits onto God'
7. the tradition which cause humans to bring forth children of God, like Isaac.
8. the tradition which giveth life
9. the tradition which cause humans to be delivered to heaven.

Do you guys know and get the above facts?

The above are some of 'the words' which were 'shut-up' in the sealed KJV N.T.. They are clarified, purified and released now because we are in the 'time of the end' and 'knowledge is increasing', according to:

Daniel: 12 KJV N.T.
4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased

And indeed all knowledge come to humans, from the Spirit of Jesus through one's own heart/spirit. When such intuitive insights are confirmed in the Holy KJV N.T., these intuitive insights are, at least, authentic Christianity.

Gurucam
August 23rd, 2017, 03:12 PM
Christianity is anchored on the idea that all knowledge come to each humans, from the Spirit of Jesus through each of their own hearts/spirits:

Ephesians: 3 King James Version (KJV)
16 That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man;
17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,
18 May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;
19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.

Romans: 8 King James Version (KJV)
26 Likewise the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession) also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession) itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession), because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

John: 16 King James Version (KJV)
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come

When such intuitive insights from the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession (as obtained through one's own heart/spirit), are confirmed in the Holy KJV N.T., these intuitive insights are, at least, authentic Christianity.

It is not about going directly and reading things in the Holy KJV N.T. and then being led by those things, that makes one a Christian. This is not the Christian way.

The Christian way is to first become 'converted'. This is to get the spiritual actualization so as to get and be led by, all truth/all knowledge from the Spirit of Jesus, as discerned through one's own heart/spirit. This is what makes one a Christian.

It is about seeking ye first, the kingdom of God that is within and then bringing out those things (those ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirations) that are within your own heart/spirit to physical/material expression on the surface of earth, in harmony with the Will/Spirit of God. The Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession makes this possible:

Matthew: 6 King James Version (KJV)
33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

Luke: 17 King James Version (KJV)
20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

To get all truth/all knowledge from the Spirit of Jesus through one's own heart/spirit is not at all difficult.

In fact, this is one of the keys to God's kingdom of heaven, which is hinged on another mystery of God's kingdom of heaven. There are two keys:

Matthew: 16 KJV N.T.
18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

These keys (which are described as the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven) were given by Jesus to only the disciples, in private sessions among only them:

Matthew: 13 KJV N.T.
10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.

These keys seemed to have been 'shut-up' in the sealed Holy KJV N.T., according to:

Daniel: 12 KJV N.T.
4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased

It is time to confirm these keys in clarity, purity and totality:

The first key is that: one must awaken to/become aware of one's own heart/spirit. This is to be 'converted'. This does not make one a Christian. This simply gives one the spiritual/intuitive actualization to move to the next step.

Only when one is 'converted' can one search, one's own heart/spirit, to get and be led by, all truth/all knowledge from the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth. This is how Jesus heals one and one becomes a Christian.

Communing with and being led by, the Spirit of Jesus as discerned through one's own heart/spirit is the second step or second mystery of God's kingdom of heaven.

Matthew: 13 KJV N.T.
15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

One must first be 'converted', before one can have communion with the Spirit of Jesus and be healed by Jesus.

Fact is, only 'the dead' need to have their spirit saved. Only 'the dead' need to be 'converted'. Not everyone on earth are born, 'the dead' or are 'the dead'.

Therefore the act of getting 'converted' applies to only 'the dead'.

Anyone who discern wisdom in, esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the ten commandments, even in the least manner is 'the dead'. These people cannot follow Jesus (to heaven). They are the dead who bury each other inside the earth, in hell, with Satan/Peter:

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.
11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.

To be 'converted' is to cease being the dead by becoming awakened to/aware of one's own heart/spirit. This is first key or mystery of God's kingdom of heaven.

Then one can move onto the next key which is to achieve live communion with and be led by, the Spirit of Jesus as discerned within one's own heart/spirit.

The technique for achieving these two keys are more or less the same. These are the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven.

This is to achieve a mind/body connection. The energy/bliss which radiate within one physical body is one's spirit body. Becoming aware of the energy/bliss which radiated within one physical body is to become aware of one's spirit. This awareness operates through one's right side brain hemisphere. This is to make a mind/body connection, through one's right side brain hemisphere. This can be achieved through hatha-yoga (properly done).

Hatha-yoga are physical postures called asanas. When properly done these awaken one to the finer blissfulness within one's physical body.

This is a reversed way of awakening one's right side brain hemisphere because the feeling of bliss is discerned only through one's right side brain hemisphere. This bring one's right side brain hemisphere into functionality. One discerns the spirit reality and the Spirit of Jesus, through one's right side brain hemisphere.

The physical faculty through which one discern one's own spirit and the Spirit of Jesus is one's right side brain hemisphere.

Hatha-yoga, properly done, does the reverse trick of bring one right side brain hemisphere on line.

Most people who esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the O.T. and/or the N.T. seem to operate only through their left side brain hemisphere. Their right side brain hemisphere are held in suspension. This deny them of spiritual awareness.

'The dead' describes people whose right side brain hemispheres are strongly and permanently 'off-line'. This is to be spiritually dead'. They are incomplete people because they use only half of their brain.

The above is a mystery of God's kingdom of heaven that was 'shut-up' in the 'sealed' Holy KJV N.T. up to now.

There are a few other techniques for achieving awareness of one's spirit. These include meditation and an intellectual path through reading and re-reading my posts and threads with a seeking awareness (and not a know-it-all attitude).

A teacher is one who destroys his student's comfort by introducing him/her to a little more truth and so motivate his student to lift himself a little bit higher.

It is very foolish to believe that you know it all and sit on that assumption. That is to assume that you are God. because only God knows it all.

If God seeks to write all that he knows, it would take billions by billions, of books the size of the Holy KJV N.T.

There are no such set of books. The knowledge of God is structured in the Holy Spirit. The knowledge of God (i.e. all knowledge/all truth) can be had only through an intuitive connection between one's own spirit and the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession.

Fact is, each person is given to get only a specific set of God's knowledge and wisdom, at any time. This is directly related to the ideas, beliefs, needs, interests and aspiration that are the fabric of each person's own heart/spirit.

The set of ideas, beliefs, needs, interests and aspiration which make-up a person's spirit is unique in every human. The spirit of God/the Holy Spirit accommodates all ideas for all humans animal plants the earth etc.

The set of ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirations which make-up a person's spirit is his/her personalized entanglement with the Holy Spirit. Each person can cause the Holy Spirit (which is wave expression) to collapse into a material expression only according the specific set of ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirations which make-up his/her own individualized spirit.

The set of ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirations which make-up a person's spirit are long 'pre-birth', pre-existing, very strong conditioning. These are the only ones that can reach the Holy Spirit (which are wave expressions) and collapse it into any thing material for anyone.

The set of ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirations which make-up a person's spirit related to one's existence in the spirit realm. Therefore these and only these represent one's entanglement with the Holy Spirit or with any thing spiritual.

The Holy Spirit can bring material expression and material manifestation on earth for each person, only according to one set of things.

These set of things are the actual ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirations which are the fabric of one's heart/spirit. This expression and/or materializing of these set of things on earth for each person, is always holistic.

It is always according to the Will/Spirit that God hold for His creation. This creates and sustains heaven on earth for, both humans and God. This makes each human a co-creator with God, in God's creation.

The Holy Spirit (which are probability waves expression of all possibilities) cannot be collapsed into just any ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirations of modern man. Also it cannot collapse into other ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirations that were locally and recently acquired (i.e. acquired after one's birth on earth).

However humans can, to an extent, materialize his own modern, locally acquired ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirations, out of his own carnal/physical efforts.

However man's carnal/physical creations would always be 'half-baked', fall short of expectations, run against God's Will/Spirit for His creation (i.e. fall short of the glory of God) and sustain a hell on earth, in all ways.

The entire Christian idea (which is about creating and sustaining heaven on earth) is anchored on seeking ye first the kingdom that is within one's own heart/spirit.

This is about becoming reacquainted with the ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirations that are the fabric of one's heart/spirit. These are the things which one actually love. Love is a thing of only one's heart/spirit.

Love for things in the material creation arises simply when those material things are a physical replication of things which one originally love in one's own heart/spirit.

One's heart/spirit is created and sustained by one's love for a specific set of ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirations.

The Holy Spirit (which is probability wave expression of all possibilities) stands ready to be collapsed into the material expression and manifestation of only these specific ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirations.

To be in grace of God is to collapse the Holy Spirit (which is probability wave expression of all possibilities) into some or all of the specific set of ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirations which are the fabric of one's own heart/spirit.

To be in grace of God is literally to create one's own heaven, on earth, in harmony with the God's kingdom of heaven, on earth.

Expressing and fulfilling things on earth are not by arbitrary, intellectual, man encouraged 'local/earthly' selection . . . as most motivational speaker seem to project.

Expressing and fulfilling things on earth are about the deep-seated things in your heart/spirit. These are pre-existing very strong conditioning that are the essential fabric of one's heart/spirit.

These are ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirations which existed in your heart/spirit before you were born. These relate to your spirit which is the only things that are entangled with Holy Spirit. Therefore only these can be addressed by the Holy Spirit.

The Holy Spirit is the quantum field which which exist as a probability wave of all possibilities.

You guys are gifted to have this knowledge which was shut-up and sealed before now, i.e.. according to:

Daniel: 12 KJV N.T.
4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased

This time, this pertains to 'shut-up' words in another book (not the Holy KJV N.T.) that was sealed and not made available to you guys before now.

Fact is, there is quite another book (not your current traditional scriptures) which has 'the words'.

However the words in that other book were shut-up' and that other book 'sealed', from you guys. You were not ready/given to get the word or appreciate/use that other book.

Given you dead state, you would have more than likely desecrated that book which had the word.

However the times of the end is at hand, and now the words are not longer 'shut-up' and the book no longer 'sealed' for you guys, who read my posts and threads.

What indeed is this book (which has the 'shut-up words), that was 'sealed' and not made known to you guys?

It is the book that is purely about spiritual awareness and a life based on one's own spirit in harmony with the Spirit of God.

This other book, is not about the ten commandments, the O.T., and parables which consume most of the Holy KJV N.T..

The ten commandments, the O.T., and parables which consume most of the Holy KJV N.T. are now, totally done away with, from the surface of earth.

The other previously 'sealed' book is the 'time of the end' gospel which is totally devoid of the ten commandments, the O.T., and parables which consume most of the Holy KJV N.T..

However this is a previously existing (on earth) book (of the word) that was simply sealed and therefore could not be and was not recognized by you guys.

We are in the time of the end and this other book which has the word is surfacing.

Are you ready to recognize and embrace the word contained in this other book that was previously sealed to you guys?

Do you realize that there is another book with the words that was sealed from you and which will only now be open to you, in the time of the end? Do you get that this is the message in:

Daniel: 12 KJV N.T.
4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased

This is the expectation which you must have, before you can reap any benefit.

Are you ready for the word and the book which contain the word, in naked and plain 'view'?

Of course the word which was shut-up in a sealed book was hidden only from you guys. These were not hidden from the twelve disciples. The twelve disciple were privy to the key to God's kingdom of heaven. There are also called the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven.

Quantum scientist has detected (on their independent terms), the Holy Spirit (i.e. the Spirit expression of God). Is not the Holy Spirit the source for fulfilling one ideas, beliefs, interests, needs desires and aspiration.

Don't people pray to God (who is a Spirit, the Holy Spirit) for the fulfillment of
ideas, beliefs, interests, needs desires and aspiration.

Well, our quantum scientists have found a level of existence that within physicality. And this level of existence are literally probability waves of all possibilities, which can be collapsed into any material possibility.

Clearly then prays are an attempt to collapse the probability waves that are Holy Spirit into particle which conforms to the subject of one' prays.

However pray have not been successful because humans did not have the art and science to actually collapse the probability waves that are Holy Spirit into particle which conforms to the subject of one' prays.

Apart from not actually having the actualization to collapse the probability waves that are Holy Spirit, into particle which conforms to the subject of one' prays, human pray requests were for arbitrary thing.

A long time ago we were told that because of our infirmities we would not know what to pray for, say and do, We are told however that the Spirit of Jesus helps us with this failing:

Romans: 8 King James Version (KJV)
26 Likewise the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession) also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession) itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession), because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

It seems that a billion strong traditional Christians were led, probably by Peter/Satan to falsely believe that Paul was foolish and not to taken seriously. So a billion strong traditional Christians ignore the above guidance fro Jesus, through Paul and when ahead to pray for any which thing they like.

The result is that few, if any pray from a billion strong traditional Christians get answered. A few get partially or other wise answered, by fluke (and not by skillful prays) and they believe that they way of praying works.

. . . will continue, in the nest post.

Gurucam
August 25th, 2017, 03:29 AM
Are you ready to recognize and embrace the (shut-up) words contained in this other book that was previously sealed to you guys?

Do you realize that there is another book with the words that was sealed from you and which will only now be open to you, in the time of the end? Do you get that this is the message in:

Daniel: 12 KJV N.T.
4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased

This is the expectation which you must have, before you can reap any benefit.

Are you ready for the word and the book which contain the word, in naked and plain 'view'?

Of course the word which was shut-up in a sealed book was hidden from you guys, until now. These were not hidden from the twelve disciples.

The twelve disciple were privy to the key to God's kingdom of heaven. There are also called the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven.

Now quantum scientist are coming on to these mysteries/keys.

On their own terms, Quantum scientist have detected the quantum field. This field closely resemble the Holy Spirit (i.e. the Spirit expression of God)..

Is not the Holy Spirit the source for fulfilling one ideas, beliefs, interests, needs desires and aspiration.

Don't people pray to God (who is a Spirit, the Holy Spirit) for the fulfillment of
ideas, beliefs, interests, needs desires and aspiration.

Well, our quantum scientists have found a level of existence that within physicality. And this level of existence are literally probability waves of all possibilities, which can be collapsed into any material possibility.

Clearly then prays are an attempt to collapse the probability waves that are Holy Spirit into particle which conforms to the subject of one' prays.

However human pray have not been successful. This is because humans did not have the art and science to pry properly. Through their pray, their prays have not actually collapse the probability waves that are Holy Spirit, into particle which conforms to the subject of their prays.

Apart from the above, human pray requests were for arbitrary things.

A long time ago we were told that because of our infirmities we would not know what to pray for, say and do, We are told however that the Spirit of Jesus helps us with this failing:

Romans: 8 King James Version (KJV)
26 Likewise the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession) also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession) itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession), because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

It seems that a billion strong traditional Christians were led, probably by Peter/Satan to falsely believe that Paul was foolish and not to taken seriously. So a billion strong traditional Christians ignore the above guidance from Jesus, through Paul and when ahead to pray for any which thing they like.

Therefore those who offered pray lacked the art and science to collapse the probability wave for that is the Holy Spirit into a particle material expression and manifestation of the subject of their prays.

Also their pray requests were for arbitrary things and not the the actual things they are per-ordained to get through collapsing the Holy Spirit.

The result is that few, if any pray from a billion strong traditional Christians get answered. A few get partially or other wise answered, by fluke (and not by skillful prays) and they believe that they way of praying works.

Truster
August 25th, 2017, 03:37 AM
When I read the heading of the OP and the use of the word "righteousness" I knew for an absolute fact that you hadn't performed an exegesis of the word. If you had you would be using the correct adjective and English translation of the Hebrew word.

Because you don't understand the word used it means your entire teaching or argument is in tatters.

Gurucam
August 25th, 2017, 04:09 AM
When I read the heading of the OP and the use of the word "righteousness" I knew for an absolute fact that you hadn't performed an exegesis of the word. If you had you would be using the correct adjective and English translation of the Hebrew word.

Because you don't understand the word used it means your entire teaching or argument is in tatters.
Clearly you are not about the New Testament, which is totally spirit and Spirit based. This giveth life eternal.

The other option is lettered discernment. Lettered discernment killeth.

Only intuitive/spirit discernment giveth 'all truth', 'all knowledge' and 'life, eternal'.

2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:

Lettered discernment is to study the written scriptures and check dictionaries, manuscripts for information and meaning. Jesus did not study scriptures. He did not use any old material in this matter.

Jesus got all his information directly from the Spirit:

John: 7 KJV N.T.
15 And the Jews marvelled, saying, How knoweth this man letters, having never learned?

The following describes how one get all knowledge/all truth directly from the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession, intuitively through one's own heart/spirit:

Ephesians: 3 King James Version (KJV)
16 That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man;
17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,
18 May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;
19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.

Romans: 8 King James Version (KJV)
26 Likewise the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession) also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession) itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession), because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

John: 16 King James Version (KJV)
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come

The above approach to getting all knowledge/all truth giveth life eternal.

You do not seem to get the fact that 'understanding the word' is totally letter discernment winch killeth..

Clearly also, you don recognize the following:

Daniel: 12 KJV N.T.
4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased

The words in all your books are 'shut-up'.

Truster
August 25th, 2017, 04:25 AM
Clearly you are not about the New Testament, which is totally spirit and Spirit based. This giveth life eternal.

The other option is lettered discernment. Lettered discernment killeth.

Only intuitive/spirit discernment giveth 'all truth', 'all knowledge' and 'life, eternal'.

2 Corinthians: 3 KJV N.T.
6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:

Lettered discernment is to study the written scriptures and check dictionaries, manuscripts for information and meaning. Jesus did not study scriptures. He did not use any old material in this matter.

Jesus got all his information directly from the Spirit:

John: 7 KJV N.T.
15 And the Jews marvelled, saying, How knoweth this man letters, having never learned?

The following describes how one get all knowledge/all truth directly from the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession, intuitively through one's own heart/spirit:

Ephesians: 3 King James Version (KJV)
16 That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man;
17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,
18 May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;
19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.

Romans: 8 King James Version (KJV)
26 Likewise the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession) also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession) itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession), because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

John: 16 King James Version (KJV)
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come

The above approach to getting all knowledge/all truth giveth life eternal.

You do not seem to get the fact that 'understanding the word' is totally letter discernment winch killeth..

Clearly also, you don recognize the following:

Daniel: 12 KJV N.T.
4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased

The words in all your books are 'shut-up'.

I know all this and it doesn't distract from the fact you do not know that correct translation of tsaddiq in Hebrew or dikaios from the Greek. My post stands and will always stand. Please don't cut and paste a ton of scripture, because I know the scripture. This is about understanding the words that appear in the scriptures.

Truster
August 25th, 2017, 04:26 AM
PS are you one of these new age people?

Truster
August 25th, 2017, 04:29 AM
PPS as for the quote from Daniel the book was opened by Messiah and so were the seals.

Gurucam
August 25th, 2017, 12:52 PM
I know all this and it doesn't distract from the fact you do not know that correct translation of tsaddiq in Hebrew or dikaios from the Greek. My post stands and will always stand. Please don't cut and paste a ton of scripture, because I know the scripture. This is about understanding the words that appear in the scriptures.

Are you so foolish to believe that you can replace any thing in the Holy KJV N.T. through the use of current trans-language dictionaries?

The Holy KJV N.T. says many very damning things about the O.T., Jews and all old things (i.e. books, manuscripts etc.) before the advent of Jesus, on earth.

Of course, many O.T./Jewish people will like to change and/or corrupt all of these clear and damning things that the Holy KJV N.T. says about O.T./Jewish people:

The O.T. and the Jewish tradition are anchored on the 'thou shall not covet' commandment. The Holy KJV N.T. says the following: every one who esteem, use and/or promote that commandments, in the lease manner stay or become 'the dead who bury their dead'. They cannot follow Jesus to the mansion in God's house, which he went to prepare, for those who follow him:

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.
11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.

In the above, 'I died', 'the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death' and 'it slew me' are all about one becoming 'the dead'. The law here is the 'thou shall not covet' commandment. This revelations say that 'the thou shall not covet' commandment that was ordained to giveth life, was found to make one 'the dead'.

'The dead' cannot follow Jesus to heaven. 'the dead must be left to bury each other inside the earth, in hell, with Satan.

Christians are instructed by Jesus, to let those who continue to esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the 'thou shall not covet' commandment which makes them 'the dead, do so. Leave the dead alone to bury each other, in that other place, i.e. inside the earth, in hell with Satan.

Matthew: 8 King James Version (KJV)
22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.

Why would any one want to esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the thou shall not covet commandment which killeth. i.e. which makes one 'the dead' and keeps one 'the dead'?

As mush as you may prize the O.T. and other old manuscripts and dictionaries etc., these are not at all consequential to or for Christians.

Christians are about going to God's kingdom of heaven and therefore also about the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven.

Both going to God's kingdom of heaven and the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven would not be found in the O.T. or in any old manuscripts or texts before 2000 odd years ago.

The mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven and the idea of going to God's kingdom of heaven were hid from you guys until Jesus gave these mysteries, 2000 odd years ago to only the disciples in very private session among only them:

Colossians: 1 King James Version (KJV)
26 Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints:

Matthew: 13 KJV N.T.
10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.

You are simply garbing at straws.

Are you a Jew trying to, any which way, hold onto and promote, your old tradition (which killeth and which (2000 odd yeas ago) was totally done-away-with for aspiring Christians and Christians??

Are you here as an unawares false spying brethren among Christians, seeking to corruptly return aspiring Christians into bondage under the ten commandments (which were found to be onto dead). Do you do this bad thing so as make these unsuspecting Christians, become 'the dead', so they cannot follow Jesus to heaven but instead become 'the dead who bury each other in hell, inside the earth with Satan):
'
Galatians: 2 King James Version (KJV)
4 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage:

The above is the literal and clear Holy KJV N.T. position.

Are you a descendant of the following Jew:

1 Thessalonians: 2 KJV N.T.
14 For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews:
15 Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men:

John: 18 King James Version (KJV)
36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.

From the above statements from Jesus, clearly the Jews would like to alter, corrupt and/or rewrite the Holy KJV N.T. Jews and other people who discern wisdom in, esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the 'thou shall not covet' commandment, in the lease cannot trusted to correct the Holy KJV N.T. or Christianity.

However, at the very least, the above revelation from the Holy KJV N.T., must be a warnings about Jews. Clearly Jews have no place among aspiring Christians and Christians. (Tht is other than to be spy who is seeking to return aspiring Christians and Christians to bondage of being killeth, spiritually, under the ten commandments)

You seem to be Jewish. Are you a Jews? Are you a Jews simply pretending to be Christian?

If you are a Jew, then please go your Jewish way, that is your right and privileged. Do not seek to deceive unsuspecting aspiring Christians and Christians.

Truster
August 25th, 2017, 01:08 PM
Who mentioned Jews?

All I said was you seem to be confused as the true meaning of the word that is wrongly translated into English as 'righteousness'.

Nothing about Jews in that.

Gurucam
August 25th, 2017, 02:26 PM
Who mentioned Jews?

All I said was you seem to be confused as the true meaning of the word that is wrongly translated into English as 'righteousness'.

Nothing about Jews in that.

What makes you hold the false believe that you can deliver the meaning of any thing in the Holy KJV N.T.?

How did you come to the above belief that you can give a meaning . . . and then processed to give a meaning under the assumption that you can provide a meaning?? Please explain.

Simply explain on who or what, authority you perceive that your meaning is worthy?

On the other point which you made, above:


PS are you one of these new age people
You ask me about being a new age person without defining what you mean by new age or what you perceive a new age person to be.

Fact is, I have heard the description, 'new age'. However I have no idea what it about.

You did me a dis-service. I cannot answer your question until you give me some ideas as to what you mean by 'new age'.

The New Testament is new age when compared to the O.T.

If by 'new age' you mean one who ignores the O.T. in favor of the KJV N.T., then by that definition, I am a new age person. Is this what you mean by 'new age'? Is this the common meaning of 'new age'?

As you realize I also had questions for you.

However I refuse to do the same dis-service to you, with respect to my question, to you.

I want to know whether or not you are a Jews or of Jewish heritage.

However, unlike you, I took the time to clearly confirm things about the Jews and their tradition which relate to my question, before I too ask you, if you were a Jew or of Jewish heritage.

I want to know if you came for the kind of Jewish heritage, mentioned in my previous post.

Are you from the heritage of Jews who (according to the Holy KJV N.T.) killed Jesus and persecuted Christians and also esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the 'thou shall not covet' commandments which makes one 'the dead'?

I have to ask because Jesus instructed Christians to leave those kinds of people alone to their own devices. They are 'the dead'. And Jesus' instruction to us Christians is 'follow me' and 'let the dead bury their dead.

I explain my plight so that you can fully understand my plight.

I mean no disrespect, I am simply quoting the words of Jesus as recorded in the Holy KJV N.T..

Billions of people, it seems, believe that they can do any thing that they like and Jesus is this all forgiving Lord. The fact is Jesus left very specific instructions. He instructed:

Matthew: 8 King James Version (KJV)
22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.

It seems down right Antichrist to ignore the above.

It seems down right Antichrist to not find out who is 'the dead' who Christians must leave to bury their dead'.

And also, it seems 'more down right' Antichrist, for us Christians to not distance our selves from 'the dead'.

The Holy KJV N.T. says that anyone who (even in the least way) esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the 'thou shall not covet' commandment is made 'the dead' and kept 'the dead'.

. . . No 'meaning', in the Holy KJV N.T. need to be or can be correct, by anyone and in particular not by a Jew.

It is your enthusiasm to offer 'meaning to words', that lead me to ask whether or not you are of the above Jewish heritage. Because the Jews are the most condemned people in the Holy KJV N.T..

I have spent some time trying to give you a clear understanding, background and context, of my question.

The sad fact is that Christians are not even to be in the same company with 'the dead', far less to be informed and/or guided by 'the dead', who seems to be Jews.

The Holy KJV N.T. is itself, fully correlated and self supporting. All 'meaning' can be had from mutually supporting revelations in the Holy KJV N.T.

How can any one who is seeking to be Christian, ignore so many clear revelations in the Holy KJV N.T.. This is not about the 'supposed' meaning of a few words.

At best this meaning of words thing is a serious deception, distraction and a very 'red herring'.

Gurucam
August 25th, 2017, 11:16 PM
PPS as for the quote from Daniel the book was opened by Messiah and so were the seals.

Daniel: 12 KJV N.T.
4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased

Auhentic prophets are perpetually correct.

Daniel's prophesy spoke of 'the time of the end'.

There is no one 'time of the end'. There are perpetual 'time of the end'. 'Time of the end' refers to the end of one period and the beginning of another. And this is on-going. This never stops.

New things are always 'shut-up' in seals books . . . and then eventually made openly know in un-sealed books.

For example:

The mysteries of God's kingdom were hid from O.T./ten commandments/Mosaic people until Jesus gave it to only the disciples, in private session among only them, just 2000 odd years ago:

This was the time of the end for one thing (the flesh based ideologies of the O.T.) and the beginning of another (the spirit and Spirit based ideologies of the N.T.)

Colossians: 1 King James Version (KJV)
26 Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints:

Matthew: 13 KJV N.T.
10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.

This marked the time of the end of the O.T./Mosaic/ten commandment/flesh and blood way (i.e. the old age), for those who dropped the old way/age and became Christians. They moved to the N.T./Jesus/spirit and Spirit/Christ age, the new age. This was a new time for those who recognized and adopted the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven.

To become Christian is to recognize and adopt the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven.

However these mysteries continued to remain 'shut-up' in a sealed book, to the great majority of these people even up to this day. Only a chosen few find it:

Matthew: 22 King James Version (KJV)
14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

Matthew: 7 King James Version (KJV)
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Therefore for the past 2000 odd we had people of two ages on earth and the surface of earth was in two overlapping ages.

When Jesus came, it was the time of the end for the age when only the O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments/flesh and blood ideal were the only rules on earth for those people, because most every one were 'the dead'

When Jesus came, 2000 odd years ago, a new age started. The N.T./spirit and Spirit/Jesus/Christian was introduced. However the previous O.T. age was not relegated.

Therefore the past 2000 odd years was not the same as the years previous. The past 2000 odd years included both ages. This was an age given for human to transition totally from the O.T. to the N.T.. Therefore during this period (i.e. the past 2000 odd years) the surface of earth supported both O.T. and N.T. people.

However there must also be 'the time of the end' for this age.

This next 'time of the end' comes when the opportunity to transform from the O.T. to the N.T. has come to the end. Then the O.T. and O.T. people will not be able to survive on earth.

This will mark the dawn of a (next) new age on the surface of earth when only Christians/children of God (N.T.) people will inherit the surface of earth totally without children of the flesh/O.T. people. This new age, has dawned and it seems, this age will ensue for the next 2000 odd years.

The reality on the surface of earth for the recently dawned age is defined as follows:

Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.

Matthew: 24 King James Version (KJV)
40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

During the time under discussion, the surface of earth is in a progression from better to better in the following order:
1. The first age: This is prior to the past 2000 odd years. In this age/period, most people on earth were 'the dead' and they dominated the surface of earth. They were given the O.T./Mosaic/ten commandment tradition because this tradition can and would, be 'wisdom' for 'the dead' (i.e. the spiritually dead). Then the time of the end came for this age to gave way to a new age:
2. This second age started 2000 odd yeas age, when Jesus introduced the N.T./spirit and Spirit/Christian tradition. In this age both the O.T. and the N.T. were relevant on earth and so too were O.T. and N.T. people. Now the time of the end has come for this second age to give way for a another new age.
3. This third age started recently, when the Spirit of Jesus became very powerful on the surface of earth. Now only the pure truth from the Holy KJV N.T. will be relevant on earth and only Christians/children of God will be supported on the surface of earth. Soon all O.T. people (who are actually 'the dead/children of the flesh) and the O.T. will be totally out of here.

I focused only on 'the time under discussion' and started from that point, only for expediency. Fact is there were unlimited 2000 odd year cycles before these three. Some these cycles were anchored on regression, followed by others that were progressive.

The last three, 2000 odd year cycles, were progressive, that is the surface of earth began to move from the worse to better and better.

Truster
August 26th, 2017, 12:06 AM
True prophets are perpetually correct.

Daniel's prophesy spoke of 'the time of the end'.

There is no one 'time of the end'. There are perpetual 'time of the end'. 'Time of the end' refers to the end of one period and the beginning of another. And this is on-going. This never stops.

New things are always 'shut-up' in seals books . . . and then eventually made openly know in un-sealed books.

For example:

The mysteries of God's kingdom were hid from O.T./ten commandments/Mosaic people until Jesus gave it to only the disciples, in private session among only them, just 2000 odd years ago:

This was the time of the end for one thing (the flesh based ideologies of the O.T.) and the beginning of another (the spirit and Spirit based ideologies of the N.T.)

Colossians: 1 King James Version (KJV)
26 Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints:

Matthew: 13 KJV N.T.
10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.

This marked the time of the end of the O.T./Mosaic/ten commandment/flesh and blood way (i.e. the old age), for those who dropped the old way/age and became Christians. They moved to the N.T./Jesus/spirit and Spirit/Christ age, the new age. This was a new time for those who recognized and adopted the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven.

To become Christian is to recognize and adopt the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven.

However these mysteries continued to remain 'shut-up' in a sealed book, to the great majority of these people even up to this day. Only a chosen few find it:

Matthew: 22 King James Version (KJV)
14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

Matthew: 7 King James Version (KJV)
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Therefore for the past 2000 odd we had people of two ages on earth and the surface of earth was in two overlapping ages.

When Jesus came, it was the time of the end for the age when only the O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments/flesh and blood ideal were the only rules on earth for those people, because most every one were 'the dead'

When Jesus came, 2000 odd years ago, a new age started. The N.T./spirit and Spirit/Jesus/Christian was introduced. However the previous O.T. age was not relegated.

Therefore the past 2000 odd years was not the same as the years previous. The past 2000 odd years included both ages. This was an age given for human to transition totally from the O.T. to the N.T.. Therefore during this period (i.e. the past 2000 odd years) the surface of earth supported both O.T. and N.T. people.

However there must also be 'the time of the end' for this age.

This next 'time of the end' comes when the opportunity to transform from the O.T. to the N.T. has come to the end. Then the O.T. and O.T. people will not be able to survive on earth.

This will mark the dawn of a (next) new age on the surface of earth when only Christians/children of God (N.T.) people will inherit the surface of earth totally without children of the flesh/O.T. people. This new age, has dawned and it seems, this age will ensue for the next 2000 odd years.

The reality on the surface of earth for the recently dawned age is defined as follows:

Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.

Matthew: 24 King James Version (KJV)
40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.


During the time under discussion, the surface of earth is in a progression from better to better in the following order:
1. The first age: This is prior to the past 2000 odd years. In this age/period, most people on earth were 'the dead' and they dominated the surface of earth. They were given the O.T./Mosaic/ten commandment tradition because this tradition can and would, be 'wisdom' for 'the dead' (i.e. the spiritually dead). Then the time of the end came for this age to gave way to a new age:
2. This second age started 2000 odd yeas age, when Jesus introduced the N.T./spirit and Spirit/Christian tradition. In this age both the O.T. and the N.T. were relevant on earth and so too were O.T. and N.T. people. Now the time of the end has come for this second age to give way for a another new age.
3. This third age started recently, when the Spirit of Jesus became very powerful on the surface of earth. Now only the pure truth from the Holy KJV N.T. will be relevant on earth and only Christians/children of God will be supported on the surface of earth. Soon all O.T. people (who are actually 'the dead/children of the flesh) and the O.T. will be totally out of here.




You should get an award for fiction.

Gurucam
August 26th, 2017, 12:21 AM
You should get an award for fiction.

Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.
23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.
29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.

The above is from the Holy KJV N.T.. However it is referenced from the O.T. scriptures, as well.

Ishmael was born of the flesh. He was a child of the flesh also refereed to as 'the dead'. Ishmael and his generation will not be heirs together with Isaac and his generation. Clearly this cannot be a good thing for Ishmael and his generation:

Romans: 9 King James Version (KJV)
7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.

You should take the time to find out how come Ishmael was the dead/a child of the flesh. And whether or not you are of Ishmael's generation.

The Holy KJV N.T. says:

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.
11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.

It seems that Ishmael and his generations continue to discern wisdom in, esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the 'thou shall not covet' commandment and this simple act, kept them and/or made them 'the dead', who are not heirs.

To add further clarity about the doom of Ishmael and his generations the following was provided:

Luke: 13 KJV N.T.
28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.

If you are among those who discern wisdom in, esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the 'thou shall not covet' commandment, you must be of Ishmael's generation and will not be heir together with Abraham, Issac and Isaac's generation.

Therefore, it is in your interest to know that the 'thou shall not covet' commandment which was ordained onto life was found to be on to death. It killeth. It made people become 'the dead'/children of the flesh And 'the dead'/children of the flesh cannot and do not, follow Jesus to heaven. They are not heirs to heaven. They are cast out of heaven. They go to that other sad and difficult place, inside the earth, with Satan.

Matthew: 8 King James Version (KJV)
22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.

John: 14 King James Version (KJV)
2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

Clearly you must realize that there is a 'time of the end' when God's kingdom of heaven will come to the surface of earth and only Abraham, the prophets, Isaac and Isaac's generation will inherit the surface of earth without Ishmael and his generation. Ishmael and his generation will be cast out:

Matthew: 6 King James Version (KJV)
10 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.

Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.

Matthew: 24 King James Version (KJV)
40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.


Do not be your own worse enemy. Over-ride your ego.

Let my simple posts and threads inform and help you.

Truster
August 26th, 2017, 01:01 AM
Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.
23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.
29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.

The above is from the Holy KJV N.T.. However it is referenced from the O.T. scriptures, as well.

Ishmael was born of the flesh. He was a child of the flesh also refereed to as 'the dead'. Ishmael and his generation will not be heirs together with Isaac and his generation. Clearly this cannot be a good thing for Ishmael and his generation:

Romans: 9 King James Version (KJV)
7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.

You should take the time to find out how come Ishmael was the dead/a child of the flesh. And whether or not you are of Ishmael's generation.

The Holy KJV N.T. says:

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.
11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.

It seems that Ishmael and his generations continue to discern wisdom in, esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the 'thou shall not covet' commandment and this simple act, kept them and/or made them 'the dead', who are not heirs.

To add further clarity about the doom of Ishmael and his generations the following was provided:

Luke: 13 KJV N.T.
28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.

If you are among those who discern wisdom in, esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the 'thou shall not covet' commandment, you must be of Ishmael's generation and will not be heir together with Abraham, Issac and Isaac's generation.

Therefore, it is in your interest to know that the 'thou shall not covet' commandment which was ordained onto life was found to be on to death. It killeth. It made people become 'the dead'/children of the flesh And 'the dead'/children of the flesh cannot and do not, follow Jesus to heaven. They are not heirs to heaven. They are cast out of heaven. They go to that other sad and difficult place, inside the earth, with Satan.

Matthew: 8 King James Version (KJV)
22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.

John: 14 King James Version (KJV)
2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

Clearly you must realize that there is a 'time of the end' when God's kingdom of heaven will come to the surface of earth and only Abraham, the prophets, Isaac and Isaac's generation will inherit the surface of earth without Ishmael and his generation. Ishmael and his generation will be cast out:

Matthew: 6 King James Version (KJV)
10 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.

Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.

Matthew: 24 King James Version (KJV)
40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.




You pay nothing more than lip-service to scripture and then add your opinions as to what the future holds. You have enough truth to fool the weak willed, but you will not fool us*.

us* the redeemed, regenerate, repentant sinners.

Gurucam
August 26th, 2017, 03:42 AM
You pay nothing more than lip-service to scripture and then add your opinions as to what the future holds. You have enough truth to fool the weak willed, but you will not fool us*.

us* the redeemed, regenerate, repentant sinners.

You are dishonest. My posts are all totally and literally revelations from the Holy KJV N.T..

Your phrase, 'the redeemed, regenerate, repentant sinners' is incomplete and seems to some thing that some man or men made-up.

However, since you delight in scriptures, please provide the following scripture:

Where did you get the idea that 'the redeemed, regenerate, repentant sinners'? Are these the few who are saved and delivered to heaven?

If you are implying that 'the redeemed, regenerate, repentant sinners' are the chosen few who are saved and delivered to heaven then:

Where did you get the idea of a "repentant sinner"? Where did you get the idea of a redeemed sinner and a regenerate sinner are the saved and delivered to heaven?

Please back-up your ideas with clear and literal verses in scriptures.

If you or your priest are not simply making-up that phrase, all by your selves:

Please provide step by step connecting/flowing verses in scriptures to support your claim.

This will help all.

You seem to have left out, 'Jesus who is the truth', 'God who is a Spirit' and 'the idea of doing the will of God who is in spirit heaven':

Matthew: 7 King James Version (KJV)
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

John: 4 King James Version (KJV)
24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
26 Likewise the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession) also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession) itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession), because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

Why are you being led and guided as 'the dead' are led and guided? This is the 'let the dead bury their dead' way.

'The dead' are humans who 'discern wisdom in, esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the 'thou shall not covet' commandment which killeth (makes one 'the dead') and is responsible for sin and raises the need for repentance:

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.
11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.

Why are you seeking to have Moses save and deliver you. Moses never offered that service. Only Jesus offered this service

Instead, why are you not being led and guide as a Saint/Christian is led and guided? This is the 'follow Jesus' way. This is the only save and deliver way.

You seem to have left out, 'Jesus who is the truth', 'God who is a Spirit' and 'the idea of doing the will of God who is in spirit heaven' for the above foolish idea (i.e. 'the redeemed, regenerate, repentant sinners').

Clearly you or your priest made-up 'the redeemed, regenerate, repentant sinners'. And you and yours foolishly anchored your lives and your wish for salvation and heaven, on that foolish idea which you guys made-up, totally excluding the idea of and need for, doing the will of God, Who is in heaven.

Clearly you guy have set aside the righteousness of God and gone about your own righteousness.

Do you realize that only a few will know truth, not err and be chosen?

Most likely, very many (who you described as, us*, with pride and a sense of accomplishment) share your idea of 'the redeemed, regenerate, repentant sinners' (what ever that means). You guys are not and cannot be, a few.

Don't you realize that many are called and few chosen. Don't you realize that straight is the gate and narrow the way and few there be that find it?

Matthew: 22 King James Version (KJV)
14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

Matthew: 7 King James Version (KJV)
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

You seem stuck on the law of sin and death. Clearly you ignore:

Romans: 8 King James Version (KJV)
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

Fact is the law of sin and death is the 'thou shall not covet' commandment:

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.
11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.

In the clearest possible terms that above revelation from the Holy KJV N.T. says that the 'thou shall not covet' commandment brought/revive sin and cause 'death.

The law of sin and death is the 'thou shall not covet' commandment and/or the ten commandments.

It is clear that you have not totally abandon and transgresses the 'thou shall not covet' commandments, so as to serve the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus.

Clearly you are in a 'stupefied slumber'. It is time to awaken before too late is your cry. Jesus said:

Matthew: 10 King James Version (KJV)
34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

Truster
August 26th, 2017, 04:22 AM
Since you delight in scriptures, please provide the following scripture:

Where did you get the idea that 'the redeemed, regenerate, repentant sinners' are the few who are saved and delivered to heaven?

Where did you get the idea of a "repentant sinner"? Where did you get the idea of a redeemed sinner and a regenerate sinner. Please back-up your ideas with clear scriptures.

If you or your priest are not simply making-up that phrase, all your selves:

Please provide step by step connecting/flowing verses in scriptures to support your claim.

This will help all.

You seem to have left out the idea of doing the will of God who is in heaven:

Matthew: 7 King James Version (KJV)
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

The following scripture?

The Bible reveals the need for redemption, salvation, regeneration, conversion and repentance. The scriptures contain the revealed will (Will and testimony) of the Eternal Almighty. The will can be read by anyone, but only the heirs can truly comprehend and benefit under the terms of the will.

The heirs are chosen and called by the Father. Redeemed by the Son and have redemption applied by the Holy Spirit.

To the praise of the glory of His grace, amen.

Truster
August 26th, 2017, 04:24 AM
PS

When I use the term amen I do so knowing exactly what amen means and how it pertains to what I have written.

Truster
August 26th, 2017, 04:50 AM
You are dishonest. My posts are all totally and literally revelations from the Holy KJV N.T..

Your phrase, 'the redeemed, regenerate, repentant sinners' is incomplete and seems to some thing that some man or men made-up.

However, since you delight in scriptures, please provide the following scripture:

Where did you get the idea that 'the redeemed, regenerate, repentant sinners' are the few who are saved and delivered to heaven?

If you are implying that 'the redeemed, regenerate, repentant sinners' are the chosen few who are saved and delivered to heaven then:

Where did you get the idea of a "repentant sinner"? Where did you get the idea of a redeemed sinner and a regenerate sinner. Please back-up your ideas with clear scriptures.

If you or your priest are not simply making-up that phrase, all your selves:

Please provide step by step connecting/flowing verses in scriptures to support your claim.

This will help all.

You seem to have left out the idea of doing the will of God who is in heaven:

Matthew: 7 King James Version (KJV)
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

Quote "You are dishonest. My posts are all totally and literally revelations from the Holy KJV N.T."


I have no problem with the scriptures you cut and paste. It's your spiritually unenlightened opinions of what the Holy Spirit is conveying to the flock that I commented on.

Gurucam
August 26th, 2017, 12:56 PM
Truster,

Click here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZbKHDPPrrc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3l4nVByCL44

The answer is blowing in "the wind" and not in any book. 'The words' are living things. The chosen few authentic Christians breadth it in through their nostrils:

Ephesians: 3 King James Version (KJV)
16 That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man;
17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,
18 May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;
19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.

Romans: 8 King James Version (KJV)
26 Likewise the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession) also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession) itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession), because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

John: 16 King James Version (KJV)
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

Oh foolish and lost one, it is totally about spirit and Spirit and totally not at all about any book or books or trans-language dictionary.

If you miss this fact, you gone through.

1 Corinthians: 15 KJV N.T.
35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

2 Corinthians: 3 King James Version (KJV)
17 Now (i.e. since the time of the end of the O.T., 2000 odd years ago) the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

The above is the authentic Christian/KJV N.T. position.

Clearly the ideas of you and "*us" (your followers) are total foolishness.


you will not fool us*.

us* the redeemed, regenerate, repentant sinners.

Truster
August 26th, 2017, 01:12 PM
Truster,

Click here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZbKHDPPrrc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3l4nVByCL44

The answer is blowing in "the wind" and not in any book:

Ephesians: 3 King James Version (KJV)
16 That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man;
17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,
18 May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;
19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.

Romans: 8 King James Version (KJV)
26 Likewise the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession) also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession) itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Intercession), because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

John: 16 King James Version (KJV)
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

I don't click on links given by people I don't know.

Gurucam
August 26th, 2017, 01:39 PM
I don't click on links given by people I don't know.

. . . and how does that concern me? That can only be your concern and your folly.

My post are simply for my few truth seeking readers to discern your foolish/deluded state and your foolish ideas.

. . . and so shield them from your corruption.

My posts are simply literal quotes of revelations in the Holy KJV N.T., which highlight your dangerous, erroneous and deceptive ideas which can deliver one (i.e. you and and your "*us") to hell, inside the earth, with Satan/Peter.

Gurucam
August 26th, 2017, 01:49 PM
I have no problem . . . .

Come on, be honest, you have all kinds of problems, like being afraid to click links etc.

You are totally afraid of truth. Seems that you spent all your life and energy believing, using, invoking and promoting foolishness that now, you are totally afraid of truth because truth will dismiss all your ideas and beliefs. You have many big problems.

Prophet Daniel says that all knowledge will increase only in the time of the end. The time of the end is only now at hand:

Daniel: 12 KJV N.T.
4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased

Is not the time of the end when God's kingdom of heaven is established on earth? Is this not when knowledge will increase?

Matthew: 6 King James Version (KJV)
10 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.

When is the time of the end, for you? Has your 'time of the end' come and gone?

You seem to have a very serious problem with and fear of, increased knowledge. You seem very comfortable and foolish, with reduced knowledge.

2000 odd years, with the advent of Jesus, was the time of the end for the O.T./Mosaic system for those who follow Jesus. Jesus brought increased knowledge.

2000 odd years later, you still have a problem with that increased knowledge which Jesus brought at that time of the end. You are still to pick-up on that increased knowledge far less to be able to pick up the new increased knowledge which came with current/new time of the end.

The following is the increased knowledge which Jesus brought, at the time of the end 2000 odd years ago. He did away with the ten commandments and introduced a new spirit and Spirit based tradition for those who follow him.

You are stuck in the very old. You will certainly not obey Jesus and transgress the 'thou shall not covet' commandment, so as to find a new mate according to serving your own spirit/love and so stop bring forth 'children of the flesh' (like Ishmael) and start bring forth only 'children of God' (like Issac).

The above is a very big problem which afflict you. However the above is the increased knowledge which Jesus brought at the time of the end, 2000 odd years ago. This was the time of the end for the ten commandments for Christians.

The following was the increased knowledge which Jesus brought, at the time of the end of O.T., 2000 odd years ago:

When you esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the 'thou shall not covet' commandment you bring forth only children of the flesh, like Ishmael. However when you transgress the 'thou shall not covet' commandment so as to serve spirit/love you bring forth only children of God, like Isaac.

If you want to be heir to God's kingdom of heaven, 'children of the flesh', like Ishmael are the wrong fruit. The correct fruits are 'children of God', like Isaac:

Matthew: 21 King James Version (KJV)
43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.

This failure to transgress the 'thou shall not covet commandment' so as to serve spirit/love is a very serious problem (which you have). This is to soweth to flesh and reap corruption. This is to deny spirit.

You must know that Ishmael (a child of the flesh) was born according to the covenant from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar. For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children. This is the flesh, earth, O.T. and killeth covenant.

On the other hand Isaac (a child of promise/child of Spirit/child of God) was born according to Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all. This is the spirit, Spirit, Christian. N.T. and eternal life covenant.

Galatians: 6 King James Version (KJV)
7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
9 And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
21 Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law?
22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.
23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.
24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.
25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.
26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

Gurucam
August 27th, 2017, 05:02 AM
Daniel: 12 KJV N.T.
4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased

The surface of earth is currently in a new, (i.e. the latest) 'time of the end'. And knowledge is increasing further.

However before we speak about this, new and latest 'time of the end' and the new increased knowledge, let us recap the increased knowledge which was related to the last (2000 odd years ago) 'time of the end':

The previous increased knowledge that occurred 2000 odd years ago, at that 'time of the end', was: those who bring forth children of the flesh like Ishmael and their children will be not be heir to God's kingdom of heaven together with those who bring forth children of God, like Isaac and their children.

That increased knowledge (of the time of the end of 2000 odd years ago) related to going to God's kingdom of heaven in the spirit realm.

Back then (2000 odd years ago) it was only promised that God's kingdom of heaven will eventually be established on the surface of earth. From 2000 odd years ago to now, for humans, God's kingdom of heaven existed only in the spirit realm. It seem that God's kingdom of heaven was to be established on the surface of earth, at a next 'time of the end, which is now at hand.

The increased knowledge that came to humans, 2000 odd years ago (at that time of the end) was:

Those who bring forth children of the flesh like Ishmael and their children will be cast out/trusted out of heaven. That is, when they die they were buried together with their dead physical bodies inside the earth, in hell with Satan/Peter.

On the other hand those who brought forth children of God, like Isaac and their children, will go to God's kingdom in spirit heaven. That is, when they die physically, they will rise out of their dead physical bodies and rise to God's kingdom of heaven, in the spirit realm, in three days, to be like angels in heaven.

Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.

Luke: 13 King James Version (KJV)
28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.

Indeed 2000 odd years ago was the time of the end for the O.T. system. And at that time knowledge was increased:

At that time, Jesus introduced a new spirit and Spirit based tradition for those who follow him. Under this new system humans had the opportunity to go to God's kingdom of heaven, in the spirit realm, when they physically died. This was not heard off or known about, during the O.T. age. 20000 odd years ago was the time of the end of the O.T./Mosaic system and and a time for increased knowledge, which Jesus brought.

The above new system (which Jesus brought 2000 odd years ago) was literally increased knowledge. This marked the time of the end for the O.T. system. This was a turning point.

To reiterate: the new system required those humans who follow Jesus to transgress the O.T. system so as to serve spirit and Spirit.

However this did not do away with the O.T. system. These two system were to operate together on earth from the time when Jesus introduce his new system, for 2000 odd years until a new time of the end came.

For the past 2000 odd years, following Jesus and his spirit and spirit based tradition, was not an absolute request. No one was forced to accept and/or adopt this, increased knowledge which Jesus brought (2000 odd years ago). This increased knowledge was directed to those who choose to follow Jesus. Those who choose to follow Moses and the O.T. were also free to do so.

Those who follow Jesus were required to transgress the O.T. system so as to serve one's own spirit in harmony with the Holy Spirit (i.e. the new N.T. system)

Therefore, everyone was free to bring forth either children of the flesh (i.e. under the O.T. system) or children of God (under the N.T. system), according to their own volition.

That is, people were free to esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the 'thou shall not covet' commandment and so continue to bring forth children of the flesh, like Ishmael. And others were free to transgress the 'thou shall not' covet commandment so as serve their spirit and so bring forth only children of God, like Isaac.

The above choice prevailed on the surface of earth for the past 2000 odd years. That is, during the past 2000 odd years, the surface of earth supported both the O.T. and the N.T. as well as O.T. and N.T. people.

Of course those who choose to esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the 'thou shall not covet' commandment, even in the least way brought forth children of the flesh, like Ishmael and no fruits onto God, like Isaac. And if one wanted to heir to God's kingdom of heaven, those were the wrong fruits:

Matthew: 21 King James Version (KJV)
43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.

This age which covered the past 2000 odd years has now passed. It's time of the end has come and new, increased knowledge is surfacing according to natural tradition.

This old age, of the past 2000 odd years, changed recently, due to the recent strengthening of Spirit of Jesus on the surface of earth. The time of the end of this period has come to the surface of earth.

Now, the surface of earth cannot support and is no longer supporting the O.T. and/or O.T. people.

Now, only the N.T. and N.T. people, are heir to surface of earth, without the O.T. and any O.T. people.

The surface of earth followed a tract as followed:

1. First the surface of earth supported only the O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments tradition and O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments people.

2. Then 2000 odd years ago, a time of the end came. And Jesus brought increased knowledge. This was Christianity. Christianity did-away-with the O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments for those who followed Jesus and became Christians.

However the O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments was not done-away-with. It was allowed to run in parallel with the N.T./spirit and Spirit based/transgress the ten commandments so as to serve spirit/Christian tradition.

3. Now the O.T. and O.T. people cannot be supported on the surface of earth. 'The time of the end' for them, on the surface of earth, is at hand.

The following is a summary:

1. At first the surface of earth supported only the O.T. and O.T. people.

. . . then, 2000 odd yeas ago, the time of the end came for that system and increased knowledge surfaced. This led to:

2. an ensuing period of 2000 odd years. During this period, the surface of earth supported both: the O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments tradition and O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments people. And N.T./spirit and Spirit based/transgress the ten commandments so as to serve spirit/Christian tradition and N.T./spirit and Spirit based/transgress the ten commandments so as to serve spirit/Christian people.

. . . now the time of the end came for that system and increased knowledge surfaced. This is leading to:

3. Now the surface of earth is supporting only N.T./spirit and Spirit based/transgressing the ten commandments so as to serve spirit/Christian tradition and N.T./spirit and Spirit based/transgress the ten commandments so as to serve spirit/Christian people.

This new ruling reality on the surface of earth is no longer related, only to: sending people to God's kingdom of heaven in the spirit realm.

Now this new ruling reality on the surface of earth is creating and sustaining God's kingdom of heaven on the surface of earth. Now, Christians/children of God do not need to go any other place to live in God's kingdom of heaven:

Matthew: 6 King James Version (KJV)
10 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.

Now the O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments tradition and all O.T./Mosaic/ten commandments people, will be teleported off the surface of earth in one fell sweep, into hell inside the earth, with Satan/Peter.

Only the N.T./spirit and Spirit/Christian tradition (which is anchored on transgress the ten commandments so as to serve spirit and Spirit) and people who are in this tradition will stay on the surface of earth to be heir to God's kingdom of heaven, on the surface of earth.

Those others who practiced the above N.T./Christian tradition and died physically, as Christian will retun to the surface soon. When these people died physically, they rose to God's kingdom of heaven in the spirit realm, in three days after their physical death. They have lived there up to this day. They have the choice to now return to the surface of earth, in new physical bodies, to also inherit God's kingdom of heaven on the surface of earth. Christians/children of God will always have the choice of living in God's kingdom of heaven, both. on the surface of earth and/or in spirit heaven . . . simultaneously or not.

It seems that those, who for the past 2000 odd years, esteemed, used, invoked and promoted the ten commandments remained and/or became 'the dead'. When they and their children died physically, they were all buried inside the earth, in hell with Satan/Peter. They will remain there and soon all their physically living counterparts, on earth, will join them there (inside the earth, in hell, with Satan/Peter, in one fell scope:

Matthew: 24 King James Version (KJV)
40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

Gurucam
August 29th, 2017, 07:45 AM
Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
21 Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law?
22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.
23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.
24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.
25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.
26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

The above says that Abraham had two sons. Ishmael and Isaac.

Ishmael was born a child of the flesh and Isaac was born by promise.

There were two covenant at that time.

They were were brought forth under two different covenants:

1. Ishmael was brought forth under the first covenant which is: 'the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar. This Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children. This is the old, O.T./Mosaic/ten commandment, covenant.

This covenant is the 'let the dead bury their dead, inside the earth, in hell with Satan/Peter when one dies physically.

2. On the other hand Isaac was born under the second covenant which is: 'Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.' This is the new, N.T./spirit and Spirit/transgressing the thou shall not covet, commandment so as to serve one's spirit/Christian.

This covenant is the 'follow Jesus in three day, after death to God's kingdom of heaven in the spirit realm to be like an angel in heaven, in the mansion in God's house which Jesus went ahead to prepare for those who actually follow him.

Matthew: 8 King James Version (KJV)
22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.

The first covenant pertains to, 'let the dead bury their dead' inside the earth, in hell with Satan/Peter, after one dies, physically.

The second covenant pertains to 'following Jesus to spirit heaven, in three day after physical death, into the mansion in God's house which he went to prepare for those who follow him.'

John: 14 King James Version (KJV)
2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

John: 14 King James Version (KJV)
12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

Galatians: 4 King James Version (KJV)
4 Now I say, That the heir, as long as he is a child, differeth nothing from a servant, though he be lord of all;

Christians differs in no way from the Jesus Christ (except that Jesus is the Lord of all). When Christians/children of God die physically, they are not buried inside the earth, in hell with Satan/Peter. They rise rise in three days, like Jesus Christ, to be like angels in heaven:

Mark: 12 King James Version (KJV)
24 And Jesus answering said unto them, Do ye not therefore err, because ye know not the scriptures, neither the power of God?
25 For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.

Galatians: 4 continue to say:

Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.

The above says that:
1. Isaac was a 'child of promise' and also born after spirit
2. Ishmael (the child of the flesh) persecuted Isaac (the child of promise/child of Spirit).
3. it was always the case, is the case and will continue to be case that children of the flesh like Ishmael persecuted child of promise/child of Spirit, like Isaac.
4. Children of the flesh, like Ishmael and his parent will not be heir together with the child of promise/child of Spirit, like Isaac.

Fact is not only will the child of promise/child of Spirit, like Isaac and his parents, be heir without the child of the flesh, like Ishmael and his parent, their entire generation will be separated according this declaration:

Romans: 9 King James Version (KJV)
7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.

Therefore it is clearly confirmed in the Holy KJV N.T. that:
Isaac and his generations are the children of promise/children of promise/children of God who will be eternally persecuted by children of the children of the flesh who are Ishmael and his generations. And only Isaac and his generation will be heirs without Ishmael and his generations.

The question arises, to what is Isaac and his parent, heir, without Ishmael and his parent?

Luke: 13 KJV N.T.
28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.

The above says, Isaac and his parent and their generations will be heir to God's kingdom of heaven, without Ishmael and his parent and their generations.

The critical question is who are the people of Isaac generations and who are the people of Ishmael generations?

This post already mentioned that there were two covenant and that:

1. Ishmael was born under the fist covenant which is 'the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar. This Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children". This is the old, O.T./Mosaic/ten commandment, covenant.

2. Isaac was born under the second covenant which is 'Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.' This is the new, N.T./spirit and Spirit/transgressing the thou shall not covet, commandment so as to serve one's spirit/Christian.

This is further supported by another revelations:

Galatians: 3 KJV N.T.
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise

Therefore one is a child of God when one cease being under the the ten commandments and a Jew and become a Christian.

This is further supported by the following:

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

The above says: that one who can is 'delivered from' the 'thou shall not covet' commandment so that he/she can transgress this commandment, so as to serve one's own spirit.

Therefore a children of God are child of promise and children of Spirit. They are the Christians. They are the ones who abandon and transgress the 'thou shall not covet' commandment and serve their own spirit. These are the generations of Isaac. These are the ones who are heir to God's kingdom of heaven, every where.

For the past 2000 odd years, the above people are the ones who rise in there day to God's kingdom of heaven in the spirit realm, when they die physically. These are also the people who will return to earth soon to be heirs to the surface of earth which is now conformed to God's kingdom of heaven as it is in heaven:

Matthew: 6 King James Version (KJV)
10 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.

On the other hand those, like the Jews, who continue to esteem, use, invoke and promote the 'thou shall not covet' commandment, continue to bring forth children of the flesh, like Ishmael. These are not the correct fruit if one want to be heir to God's kingdom of heaven:

Matthew: 21 King James Version (KJV)
43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.

Only the few authentic Christians abandon and transgress the 'thou shall not covet' commandment so as to bring forth only the correct fruit who are child of God. like Isaac.

It is therefore very critical that you guys do not let the likes of Truster deceive you and return you to bondage under the curse of the 'thou shall not covet' commandment. He is obviously trying to do this by seeking to correct the Holy KJV N.T.. Can he actually believe that so many mutually and clearly supporting revelations in the Holy KJV N.T. can all be inaccurate?

The Holy KJV N.T. is very clear through many mustually supporting revelations which Satan/Truster will seek and is seeking, to undermine.

Trusher is nothing less and no more, than an unawares, false, spying brethren among unsuspecting aspiring Christians and babes in Christ.

Gurucam
August 29th, 2017, 09:01 PM
The big mistake that tradition Christians make is to assume that the Jews (i.e. those who remained Jews) were the descendants of Jacob.

The descendants of Jacob were those Jews who cease being Jews and became Christians.

Jacob who was the son of Isaac is said to be called 'Israel'. However there are two Israels. One is on earth (the promise land of Jews) and one is in above, in heaven (the promised land for Christians).

This is the promise land for Christians:

John: 14 King James Version (KJV)
2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

The Israel related to Jacob, is not the Jews whose promised land is on earth. This Israel are those Jews who ceased being Jews and became Christians and their Israel is above, in heaven.

Issac's generation were those Jews who cease being Jews and became children of God who are Christians:

Romans: 9 KJV N.T.
7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.

Galatians: 3 KJV N.T.
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according o the promise.

Luke: 13 King James Version (KJV)
28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.

The generations of Ishmael are the Jews who remained Jews.

Do not confuse prophesies about Jerusalem and Israel to be about only the earthly land of the Jews.

There is a second Jerusalem and Israel that is related to heaven.

The earthly Jerusalem and Israel relates to the Jews. This Jerusalem and Israel is related to the promise land of Jews. This is anchored on the covenant from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar. For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem or Israel which now is, and is in bondage with her children.

The heavenly Jerusalem and Israel relates to Christians. This Jerusalem and Israel are related to the promised land for Christians. This is anchored on the second covenant which is about the Jerusalem or Israel which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
21 Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law?
22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.
23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.
24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; 1. (this is the promise land for Jews) the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.
25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.
26 But 2. (this is the promised land for Christians) Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

Things related to heaven (including the configuration of planets, stars etc) are signs for only Christians.

The following video may make some sense except for the assumption that those stars pertain to Jews. These stars do not pertain to the Jews, who are connected to flesh and earth. These stars pertain to Christians who are connected to spirit and Spirit and heaven.

In this video, the assumption that Issac generation of Jacob were the Jews is wrong/incorrect.

Jacob was about the Jews who cease being Jews and became Christians. They are of Israel that is in the heavens, above. These are Isaac's generations.

The Jews (Ishmael's generation) are about the earthly land of Israel, on earth.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xn_l2yS6H2o

The prophesy explained in the above video is at best related to the rule of Christians and the establishing of their heavenly kingdom on the surface of earth, on earth and the dispatching of Jews and their earthly claim to some other place.

Do not be deceived, Jesus is not coming to empower the Jews (who are the generations of Ishmael). He is coming to empower Christians (who are the generations of Isaac).

Also do not be deceived, Jews are not the generation of Isaac (i.e. those who cease being Jews and became Christians.

All good prophesies are only for Christians and not for the Jews who remained Jews.

This guy's ideas and story seems far from correct. However his idea about the appearance of a stars, at the time of the end of 2000 odd year periods, may have some merits.

The appearance of these stars may mark the time of the end of 2000 odd year old periods, as posted on Post # 212 above.

That is,
1. the first star that this guy mentions marked the time of the end of the previous period and the start of a 2000 odd years period which span, from Abraham to the coming of Jesus. During this period, the O.T.Mosaic/ten commandments ruled among those people.

2. the next star that he spoke of appeared with the coming of Jesus. This marked the time of the end of the previous period and the start of a new 2000 odd year. This new 2000 odd year period span from Jesus to the present when another star appeared. During this 2000 odd year period, both the O.T./Mosaic/ten commandment system and the N.T./spirit and spirit/Christian tradition ruled on earth.

3. now, with the appearance of a third star, another time of the end is at hand. This is the time of end of the above period and the start of another period has started. During this new (just started) period, only the N.T./spirit and spirit/Christian tradition and authentic Christians (the chosen few) are ruling on earth and the O.T., Jews etc/ would soon be totally out of here.

The recently started 2000 odd year period will favor only Christians (i.e. children of God) without any Jews (children of the flesh).

The above seem to be the 'Revelation: 12 sign'.

Do not be deceived up to the final moment. This guys can be only partially correct.

Gurucam
August 30th, 2017, 10:26 AM
When one dies, physically, one's final judgment and dispatch to either heaven or hell, is based on what one soweth to, during one current life on earth. It is not based on slogans which one may have repeated according to instructions in Joel Osteen's and other similar churches.

Galatians: 6 King James Version (KJV)
7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
9 And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.

Have absolutely no doubt that when one esteem, use, invoke and/or promote the 'thou shall not covet' commandment, during one's life on earth one soweth to flesh and reap corruption. Corruption include children of the flesh/Jews etc., like Ishmael, who (at all times, past, present and future) persecute children of God/Christians, like Isaac.

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.

Do not get bamboozled about the above fact.

Other things including repeating slogans, counts for nothing.

To soweth is the only path. To soweth to Spirit is to literally do the will of God who is a Spirit in heaven:

Matthew: 7 King James Version (KJV)
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

John: 4 King James Version (KJV)
24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

Repeating that 'Lord Jesus was raised from the dead by God' is simply to repeat a 'Lord', 'Lord', slogan. This is nothing. One must actually do the Will/Spirit of the living God who is a living Spirit within each person's own heart.

Romans: 10 King James Version (KJV)
9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

In the above 'shall believe in thy heart' is directly connected to knowing in one's heart/spirit.

The above is directly connected to and being led by, the Spirit of Jesus within one's own heart/spirit. This enables one to do the (only) two things which anchor salvation, deliverance to God's kingdom of heaven and Christianity.

By discerning the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession within one own heart/spirit and being led into all of one's works by precisely what this Spirit of Jesus has in mind for one to know, pray for, say and do one serves one own spirit and also do the Will/Spirit of the living God, in perfect harmony.

The above are the (only) two things that each person must do in order to be saved, delivered into God's Christian kingdom of heaven and to be a Christian.

Also from the above experience of communion with the Spirit of Jesus within one's own heart/spirit, one comes to actually know that Jesus is alive, well and living in God's kingdom of heaven, in the spirit realm.

Then one's confession that 'Lord Jesus was raised from the dead by God' is not simply the repetition of a slogan, but a living awareness of the fact. This awareness within one's own heart/spirit is subtle and intuitive. It is not bold and brazen as knowing through our physical senses. This subtle, intuitive knowing is described as 'believing in one's heart'.

Romans: 8 KJV N.T.
26 Likewise the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession) also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession) itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit (of Jesus/Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession), because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

Ephesians: 3 KJV N.T.
17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,
18 May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;
19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.

Gurucam
August 30th, 2017, 02:02 PM
Hurricanes and storms can be literally pushed away, before they reaches one's land.

In fact, they can be prevented from forming. However, this latter event is far more involved.

Some uninformed/carnal churches simply attract 'negativity in the atmosphere'. While other truly (spiritually) informed churches, attract 'positive vibes in the atmosphere'.

This is about science and art technologies of the Quantum field. This is the science and art of Quantum mechanics.

This science and art technology is also defined in the Holy KJV N.T.

The basic idea is, if a group of people pray the wrong and uninformed way, they create and sustain an atmosphere that is fertile for only negativity.

On the other hand when a group of people pray the correct and informed way, they create and sustain an atmosphere that is fertile for only positiveness.

Praying and what to pray for, are serious science and art. Of course praying the wrong and uninformed way attract hurricanes to one's environment. On the other hand praying the correct and informed way repels hurricane from one's environment.

Many old (none biblical) civilizations used this technology very successfully.

This was introduced by Jesus and recorded in the Holy KJV N.T. However it remain hid. The words were 'shut-up and the book sealed. This simply means that although the words were in the Holy KJV N.T. they were 'shut-up and sealed in that book because it required humans to have a higher awareness to recognize and discern the particular words which are the science and art of operating competently, in the spirit/quantum realm.

This science and art technologies are basis of Christianity. Christianity is a spiritual tradition. This is different from a religious tradition.

Up to recently it was o.k. to simply esteem religions on earth. Now one cannot survive on the surface without individual personal spiritual actualization and spiritual competence. Traditions can no longer be religious. They must now be spiritual. Soon all religious traditions would be out of here.

Christianity is the science and art of creating and sustaining a totally life supporting reality on the surface of earth by operating from the spirit realm, through the faculties of one's own spirit. A totally life supporting reality on earth is literally heaven on earth.

In the Christian tradition this approach to pray is described as 'serving one's own spirit' in harmony with 'soweth-ing to the Holy Spirit'. This has absolutely nothing to do with the ten commandments and other O.T. things and/or repeating slogans (as prescribed by Joel Osteen at his Houston church).

The current Harvey hurricane/storm event in Texas clearly confirm that countries can no longer operate without adapting and using these science and art technologies of the Quantum field. Prevention is the only possible way forward. Cure is totally not possible (i.e. as in the past).

Churches must be lifted to the next level, which is authentically spiritual. Churches can no longer be the dress-up charade that they have been.

At this ensuing time, countries who can rise to this level of spiritual competence will rise to the top of the world by getting the total support of nature.

This not an approach which enables one to obtain the expression and materializing of one's any which (arbitrary) desire/wish. This was the approach in traditional pray which always failed.

This newly 'un-shut-up' and 'unsealed' approach is about each person, knowing and seeking only those specific set of desires and wishes which the Holy Spirit will support for him or her. Then seeking expression and materialization of that specific set of desires and wishes.

This is totally different from the current approaches used by churches, religions and self-help gurus. In fact this knowledge was hidden, until now. It was shut-up and the book which contained it was seal up to recently. These institutions and people tell you that you can (magically/miraculously) have just any thing that you want, if you use their techniques. This is totally flawed.

Fact is each person has only a very specific set of ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirations which will have the support of the Holy Spirit. And so one can and must pray for only these set of ideas, beliefs, interests, needs, desires and aspirations. It is not a free for all. Nor can a simple request succeed. There is an an art and science for making these specific pray requests.

These science and art are being revealed now, only because the time of the end of the last 2000 odd year period arrived and Knowledge is expanding. This is according to the prophesy of Prophet Daniel:

Daniel: 12 KJV N.T.
4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased

It seems that every 2000 odd years period marks the 'time of the end' of a period when increased knowledge surfaces on earth.

The surface of earth is at one of these serious transforming times. Failure to adapt to these increasing knowledge of the current times, can an