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BoyStan
July 4th, 2017, 08:22 PM
Eph 1:1 "To the saints in Ephesus, and the faithful in Christ Jesus."

Ephesians is a letter written to Christians. Please understand this context when quoting texts from Ephesians. The whole teaching of this epistle must be interpreted in its context.
Doing this will stop applying to the unbelieving world what in truth applies to Christians only! Only then will God's truth be known.

Truster
July 4th, 2017, 09:19 PM
Elohim's truth ( I AM the Truth) finds the elect.

All the epistles are a message to the elect and only the elect can benefit under the terms of the testament.

patrick jane
July 4th, 2017, 09:29 PM
Elohim's truth ( I AM the Truth) finds the elect.

All the epistles are a message to the elect and only the elect can benefit under the terms of the testament.Too bad you can't benefit

Truster
July 4th, 2017, 09:43 PM
Too bad you can't benefit

I benefit from having been granted a love of the truth and a love of the brethren. I love because I was first loved.


You didn't answer the question:

[02-07, 08:07] Truster: What is it I should forgive you for?

[02-07, 06:37] patrick jane: So you forgive me Bluster?

patrick jane
July 4th, 2017, 09:44 PM
I benefit from having been granted a love of the truth and a love of the brethren. I love because I was first loved.


You didn't answer the question:

[02-07, 08:07] Truster: What is it I should forgive you for?

[02-07, 06:37] patrick jane: So you forgive me Bluster?Do you forgive me for pointing out all of your doctrinal errors?

Truster
July 4th, 2017, 09:54 PM
Do you forgive me for pointing out all of your doctrinal errors?

Like a blind man tries to give direction to the sighted. Or the dead contradicts the living...

BoyStan
July 4th, 2017, 10:27 PM
Stop judging!

BoyStan
July 4th, 2017, 10:29 PM
Too many think they are the Sherlock Holmes of everyone's doctrine.

BoyStan
July 4th, 2017, 10:30 PM
Too bad you can't benefit


patrick do you know who are the elect?

patrick jane
July 4th, 2017, 10:32 PM
patrick do you know who are the elect?Me :) - and the Chinese

BoyStan
July 4th, 2017, 11:33 PM
Me :) - and the Chinese

Election is a Bible doctrine that many, like yourself, choose to ignore or condemn or misunderstand or poke fun at. God has election at the centre of His dealings with humanity!

thesocrates
July 5th, 2017, 01:17 AM
Great thread!

Truster
July 5th, 2017, 02:07 AM
Stop judging!

If that was directed at me:

But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

BoyStan
July 5th, 2017, 07:14 AM
If that was directed at me:

But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

How does that verse apply to you? Explain in your own words what you are saying about yourself with this quote. If you cannot do so then your quoting the verse is a waste of time and energy and meaningless.Answer my question and show us that your not overflowing with spiritual pride!

Truster
July 5th, 2017, 07:40 AM
How does that verse apply to you? Explain in your own words what you are saying about yourself with this quote. If you cannot do so then your quoting the verse is a waste of time and energy and meaningless.Answer my question and show us that your not overflowing with spiritual pride!

You sound just like Satan. Prove to me if...

I have no need nor reason to prove anything to you, but you have proven something to me.

BoyStan
July 5th, 2017, 07:45 AM
You sound just like Satan. Prove to me if...

Are you saying that anyone who questions you is just like Satan?

Truster
July 5th, 2017, 07:48 AM
Are you saying that anyone who questions you is just like Satan?

I didn't say that you did. And like your father you attribute things to others that they haven't said. That is known as deceit and that makes you deceitful.

BoyStan
July 5th, 2017, 06:50 PM
I didn't say that you did. And like your father you attribute things to others that they haven't said. That is known as deceit and that makes you deceitful.

I asked you to explain what you mean't by your comment. You accused me of sounding like satan. Then you did not answer my question, but resorted to judging me as a child of satan and speaking deceit like him.
I suspect that you have a spirit of accusing the brethren and use scripture as weapons to attack others and make yourself appear righteous in your own eyes.

Truster
July 5th, 2017, 10:55 PM
I asked you to explain what you mean't by your comment. You accused me of sounding like satan. Then you did not answer my question, but resorted to judging me as a child of satan and speaking deceit like him.
I suspect that you have a spirit of accusing the brethren and use scripture as weapons to attack others and make yourself appear righteous in your own eyes.

My attacks are on false doctrine and therefore, by default, on false brethren. Wolves in sheeps clothing are uncloaked by their reactions to the truth.

God's Truth
July 5th, 2017, 11:04 PM
Eph 1:1 "To the saints in Ephesus, and the faithful in Christ Jesus."

Ephesians is a letter written to Christians. Please understand this context when quoting texts from Ephesians. The whole teaching of this epistle must be interpreted in its context.
Doing this will stop applying to the unbelieving world what in truth applies to Christians only! Only then will God's truth be known.

There is only one way to find God's Truth.

Searching for Jesus' teachings and then obeying them.

That is how to find God's Truth.

BoyStan
July 5th, 2017, 11:43 PM
My attacks are on false doctrine and therefore, by default, on false brethren. Wolves in sheeps clothing are uncloaked by their reactions to the truth.

Your implying that you have no false doctrines but a theologically perfect understanding of Bible doctrines. From your pedestal you can rightly judge false brethren by their 'false' doctrine according to your interpretation. It seems that you maybe a wolf in your doctrinal clothing!

Truster
July 5th, 2017, 11:58 PM
Your implying that you have no false doctrines but a theologically perfect understanding of Bible doctrines. From your pedestal you can rightly judge false brethren by their 'false' doctrine according to your interpretation. It seems that you maybe a wolf in your doctrinal clothing!

I'm not implying any such thing and you are once again attributing a statement to me that I didn't think nor write. What I'm stating is that the Holy Spirit leads the holy into all truth and I have that leading. He alone teaches and identifies His doctrine.

BoyStan
July 6th, 2017, 12:11 AM
I'm not implying any such thing and you are once again attributing a statement to me that I didn't think nor write. What I'm stating is that the Holy Spirit leads the holy into all truth and I have that leading. He alone teaches and identifies His doctrine.

So the Holy Spirit gives you an 'infallible' insight into true and false doctrine. From this leading you quickly judge false brethren. Are you the only holy person with this leading? How do you know you are not being deceived?

Truster
July 6th, 2017, 12:16 AM
So the Holy Spirit gives you an 'infallible' insight into true and false doctrine. From this leading you quickly judge false brethren. Are you the only holy person with this leading? How do you know you are not being deceived?

Yes I do judge and do so without fear of contradiction because it is the Spirit at work in me that does so.

Truster
July 6th, 2017, 01:37 AM
There are reactions that the unregenerate manifest in the face of truth. You are manifesting enough to prove your knowledge of the truth is speculative.
There are reactions manifested by the regenerate when faced with truth and in this, you fail.