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Evil.Eye.<(I)>
July 2nd, 2017, 02:35 PM
This isn't a normal video! I wept as the Jews spoke. Modern day Supersessionalism is as wicked as the Pharisees that would have stoned Jesus for declaring that He was before Abraham, the Great I Am!

I don't expect videos to get watched, usually, but this is no ordinary video and it comes straight from the land where Jesus walked.

If you are a supersessionalist, please watch this! If you know what Jesus has promised to do for Israel, I severely recommend you watch this, despite knowing. This is the most beautiful piece of ministry I have seen any human beings ever assemble, apart from Jesus words to us in all Cannon.


https://youtu.be/glqNTVXpRE0

In case an individual doesn't know, supersessionalism is known as "Replacement Theology" or "Spiritual Israel" superseding the real Israel.

And yes, I'm posting this twice. I'm posting it in ECT too, so it is available to those who predominantly read ECT.

All Grace to you from our LORD Jesus Christ, ministered to our hearts from His Son's Holy Spirit to the very Glory of His Father,

- Evil.Eye.<(I)>

Evil.Eye.<(I)>
July 2nd, 2017, 02:38 PM
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Evil.Eye.<(I)>
July 2nd, 2017, 02:51 PM
Zechariah 12

The Coming Deliverance of Judah

The burden of the word of the Lord against Israel. Thus says the Lord, who stretches out the heavens, lays the foundation of the earth, and forms the spirit of man within him: 2 “Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of drunkenness to all the surrounding peoples, when they lay siege against Judah and Jerusalem. 3 And it shall happen in that day that I will make Jerusalem a very heavy stone for all peoples; all who would heave it away will surely be cut in pieces, though all nations of the earth are gathered against it. 4 In that day,” says the Lord, “I will strike every horse with confusion, and its rider with madness; I will open My eyes on the house of Judah, and will strike every horse of the peoples with blindness. 5 And the governors of Judah shall say in their heart, ‘The inhabitants of Jerusalem are my strength in the Lord of hosts, their God.’ 6 In that day I will make the governors of Judah like a firepan in the woodpile, and like a fiery torch in the sheaves; they shall devour all the surrounding peoples on the right hand and on the left, but Jerusalem shall be inhabited again in her own place—Jerusalem.

7 “The Lord will save the tents of Judah first, so that the glory of the house of David and the glory of the inhabitants of Jerusalem shall not become greater than that of Judah. 8 In that day the Lord will defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; the one who is feeble among them in that day shall be like David, and the house of David shall be like God, like the Angel of the Lord before them. 9 It shall be in that day that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.

Mourning for the Pierced One

10 “And I will pour on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem the Spirit of grace and supplication; then they will look on Me whom they pierced. Yes, they will mourn for Him as one mourns for his only son, and grieve for Him as one grieves for a firstborn. 11 In that day there shall be a great mourning in Jerusalem, like the mourning at Hadad Rimmon in the plain of Megiddo. 12 And the land shall mourn, every family by itself: the family of the house of David by itself, and their wives by themselves; the family of the house of Nathan by itself, and their wives by themselves; 13 the family of the house of Levi by itself, and their wives by themselves; the family of Shimei by itself, and their wives by themselves; 14 all the families that remain, every family by itself, and their wives by themselves.

jamie
July 2nd, 2017, 03:02 PM
Replacement theology?

Judaism is based on Rabbinic law not Mosaic law. Mosaic law ended when Christ (the husband of Israel) died.

"Therefore, my brethren, you also have become dead to the law through the body of Christ, that you may be married to another—to Him who was raised from the dead, that we should bear fruit to God. For when we were in the flesh, the sinful passions which were aroused by the law were at work in our members to bear fruit to death. But now we have been delivered from the law, having died to what we were held by, so that we should serve in the newness of the Spirit and not in the oldness of the letter." (Romans 7:4-6)

Judaism is a spurious version of God's church which began with Moses in Egypt. It is empty of any salvific quality.

Judism was created in Babylon as a replacement for Mosaic law.

Replacement theology is actually present day Judaism.

chair
July 2nd, 2017, 10:22 PM
Replacement theology?

Judaism is based on Rabbinic law not Mosaic law.

No. Rabbinic law is based on Mosaic law. the law was never meant to be static- it had to be applied to changing circumstances. Even Moses didn't know how to apply Mosaic law in some cases, and had to ask God for advice.

Jesus participated in the Rabbinic discussion of the time. Specifically in the question of divorce- under what circumstances can one divorce one's wife. He takes the side of Shammai in this case.


Mosaic law ended when Christ (the husband of Israel) died.
No. You can say this athousand times, but it isn't true. This will be hard for you, but the plain fact is that the death of Jesus was a non-event in terms of Judaism. The big events in that period were the destruction of the Temple (40 years later), and the failure of the Bar Kochba revolt.





Judaism is a spurious version of God's church which began with Moses in Egypt. It is empty of any salvific quality.

No. Judaism is the religion of Israel, which developed from its beginnings in the time of the Exodus. It is not meant to have "salvific quality". The need to be "saved" is a later Christian invention.



Judism was created in Babylon as a replacement for Mosaic law.

Wrong again. Judaism is the natural development of the religion of the Jews




Replacement theology is actually present day Judaism. You probably believe this bit of nonsense. You seriously believe that modern Christianity, with its need for "salvation, dead man-god, total lack of laws or customs, is the true (TM) religion of the Jews, while the Jews who have been observing the Sabbath for 3,000 years are 'fake'.

Think again.

Evil.Eye.<(I)>
July 2nd, 2017, 11:04 PM
No. Rabbinic law is based on Mosaic law. the law was never meant to be static- it had to be applied to changing circumstances. Even Moses didn't know how to apply Mosaic law in some cases, and had to ask God for advice.

Jesus participated in the Rabbinic discussion of the time. Specifically in the question of divorce- under what circumstances can one divorce one's wife. He takes the side of Shammai in this case.

No. You can say this athousand times, but it isn't true. This will be hard for you, but the plain fact is that the death of Jesus was a non-event in terms of Judaism. The big events in that period were the destruction of the Temple (40 years later), and the failure of the Bar Kochba revolt.



No. Judaism is the religion of Israel, which developed from its beginnings in the time of the Exodus. It is not meant to have "salvific quality". The need to be "saved" is a later Christian invention.


Wrong again. Judaism is the natural development of the religion of the Jews

You probably believe this bit of nonsense. You seriously believe that modern Christianity, with its need for "salvation, dead man-god, total lack of laws or customs, is the true (TM) religion of the Jews, while the Jews who have been observing the Sabbath for 3,000 years are 'fake'.

Think again.

That's real! Thank you Chair! I honestly humble myself before your sincerity! Raw. Real and without question!

All reapect! I would rip out my spiritual eYes! Evil.Eye.<(I)>

All blessings of the Infinite to you Chair!

Lazy afternoon
July 3rd, 2017, 12:09 AM
You probably believe this bit of nonsense. You seriously believe that modern Christianity, with its need for "salvation, dead man-god, total lack of laws or customs, is the true (TM) religion of the Jews, while the Jews who have been observing the Sabbath for 3,000 years are 'fake'.

Think again.

EE blesses you with all blessings of the infinite.



2Jn 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
2Jn 1:10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
2Jn 1:11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.

LA

steko
July 3rd, 2017, 12:09 AM
This isn't a normal video! I wept as the Jews spoke. Modern day Supersessionalism is as wicked as the Pharisees that would have stoned Jesus for declaring that He was before Abraham, the Great I Am!

I don't expect videos to get watched, usually, but this is no ordinary video and it comes straight from the land where Jesus walked.

If you are a supersessionalist, please watch this! If you know what Jesus has promised to do for Israel, I severely recommend you watch this, despite knowing. This is the most beautiful piece of ministry I have seen any human beings ever assemble, apart from Jesus words to us in all Cannon.


https://youtu.be/glqNTVXpRE0

In case an individual doesn't know, supersessionalism is known as "Replacement Theology" or "Spiritual Israel" superseding the real Israel.

And yes, I'm posting this twice. I'm posting it in ECT too, so it is available to those who predominantly read ECT.

All Grace to you from our LORD Jesus Christ, ministered to our hearts from His Son's Holy Spirit to the very Glory of His Father,

- Evil.Eye.<(I)>

Excellent video.

And what-a-ya-know, Hebrew speaking Jews know how to(of course) correctly spell and pronounce the name Yeshua, contrary to some on this forum who ignorantly and obsessively insist otherwise.

daqq
July 3rd, 2017, 08:03 AM
Zechariah 12

The Coming Deliverance of Judah

The burden of the word of the Lord against Israel. Thus says the Lord, who stretches out the heavens, lays the foundation of the earth, and forms the spirit of man within him: 2 “Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of drunkenness to all the surrounding peoples, when they lay siege against Judah and Jerusalem. 3 And it shall happen in that day that I will make Jerusalem a very heavy stone for all peoples; all who would heave it away will surely be cut in pieces, though all nations of the earth are gathered against it. 4 In that day,” says the Lord, “I will strike every horse with confusion, and its rider with madness; I will open My eyes on the house of Judah, and will strike every horse of the peoples with blindness. 5 And the governors of Judah shall say in their heart, ‘The inhabitants of Jerusalem are my strength in the Lord of hosts, their God.’ 6 In that day I will make the governors of Judah like a firepan in the woodpile, and like a fiery torch in the sheaves; they shall devour all the surrounding peoples on the right hand and on the left, but Jerusalem shall be inhabited again in her own place—Jerusalem.

7 “The Lord will save the tents of Judah first, so that the glory of the house of David and the glory of the inhabitants of Jerusalem shall not become greater than that of Judah. 8 In that day the Lord will defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; the one who is feeble among them in that day shall be like David, and the house of David shall be like God, like the Angel of the Lord before them. 9 It shall be in that day that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.

Mourning for the Pierced One

10 “And I will pour on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem the Spirit of grace and supplication; then they will look on Me whom they pierced. Yes, they will mourn for Him as one mourns for his only son, and grieve for Him as one grieves for a firstborn. 11 In that day there shall be a great mourning in Jerusalem, like the mourning at Hadad Rimmon in the plain of Megiddo. 12 And the land shall mourn, every family by itself: the family of the house of David by itself, and their wives by themselves; the family of the house of Nathan by itself, and their wives by themselves; 13 the family of the house of Levi by itself, and their wives by themselves; the family of Shimei by itself, and their wives by themselves; 14 all the families that remain, every family by itself, and their wives by themselves.

massa - burden, utterance, prophecy . . .
n'um - the oracle, the utterance, thus says, ("thus saith"), the whisper . . .

A burden-prophecy of the Word of YHWH concerning Yisrael; the Oracle of YHWH who stretches out the heavens, and lays the foundation of the earth, and forms the spirit-breath of man within him: Behold, I (the Oracle-Word of YHWH) will make Yerushalem a cup of reeling-intoxication to all the surrounding peoples...

...And they shall look on me, (the Oracle-Word of YHWH), whom they pierced...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhSdSZ71A6Y

In the mgillat-kephalidi-header of the Sefer it is written concerning me . . .

jamie
July 3rd, 2017, 08:10 AM
No. Rabbinic law is based on Mosaic law.


Mosaic law was based on God's covenant.

Rabbinic law is based the creation of men.

Rabbinic law does not see humans as God's temple.

Rabbinic law does not see God's people as his priesthood.

Rabbinic law is not based on God's atonement.

jamie
July 3rd, 2017, 08:23 AM
No. Judaism is the religion of Israel


Judaism is a non-salvivic religion of some people the same as Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, etc.

The Tanakh has become an idol for Jews.

jamie
July 3rd, 2017, 08:31 AM
Wrong again. Judaism is the natural development of the religion of the Jews


Judaism is the natural development of the religion of the Jews without a temple or priesthood.

Mosaic law does not establish rabbis as priests.

Judaism is a non-salvivic, man-made religion without merit.

jamie
July 3rd, 2017, 08:32 AM
Chair, that was a very good post. Thanks for making clear Jewish beliefs.

Good job. :thumb:

daqq
July 3rd, 2017, 08:53 AM
massa - burden, utterance, prophecy . . .
n'um - the oracle, the utterance, thus says, ("thus saith"), the whisper . . .

A burden-prophecy of the Word of YHWH concerning Yisrael; the Oracle of YHWH who stretches out the heavens, and lays the foundation of the earth, and forms the spirit-breath of man within him: Behold, I (the Oracle-Word of YHWH) will make Yerushalem a cup of reeling-intoxication to all the surrounding peoples...

...And they shall look on me, (the Oracle-Word of YHWH), whom they pierced...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhSdSZ71A6Y

In the mgillat-kephalidi-header of the Sefer it is written concerning me . . .

Sacrifice and offering You have not desired: mine earlets You have opened, (pierced), burnt offerings and sin offerings You have not required. Then I said, Behold, I am come, in the mgillat-kephalidi-header of the Sefer it is written concerning me: I delight to do Your will, O my Elohim, and Your Torah is within my inward parts.

λογια ζωντα - Living Oracles, (the Torah, Acts 7:38), Living Words, Living Sayings . . .

Zeke
July 3rd, 2017, 09:32 AM
Luke 17:20-21 still awaits to be discerned by jew and gentile relgiously programmed to seek in history and futuristic events for spiritual truth that has no beginning or end, keep living the dream of separation until you awake.