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Jacob
June 21st, 2017, 08:10 PM
Shalom.

The TaNaKh is the Torah, the Nevi'im, and the Kethuvim. That is, the Law, the Prophets, and the Writings.

Discuss anything from the TaNaKh.

Shalom.

Jacob

Robert Pate
June 21st, 2017, 08:54 PM
Shalom.

The TaNaKh is the Torah, the Nevi'im, and the Kethuvim. That is, the Law, the Prophets, and the Writings.

Discuss anything from the TaNaKh.

Shalom.

Jacob


When God tore the veil that covered the Holy of Holies from the top to the bottom, Matthew 27:51. That signified the end of the Old Covenant, the law and the Jewish religion. This is why Paul wrote that "THE JUST SHALL LIVE BY FAITH" Romans 1:17 and not by rules, laws or religion.

Jacob
June 21st, 2017, 09:02 PM
Shalom.

Thank you Robert Pate.

Please see the following verses. The scripture references are provided here. The concordance search is the just shall live by faith.



Romans 1:17
Galatians 3:11
Hebrews 10:38
Habakkuk 2:4


Shalom.

Jacob

daqq
June 21st, 2017, 10:54 PM
When God tore the veil that covered the Holy of Holies from the top to the bottom, Matthew 27:51. That signified the end of the Old Covenant, the law and the Jewish religion. This is why Paul wrote that "THE JUST SHALL LIVE BY FAITH" Romans 1:17 and not by rules, laws or religion.

Nope, it did not signify "the end of the Old Covenant", but instead the very opposite: it inaugurated the Covenant in full force because no one fully understood it until Messiah came to expound it all; that is why it is called the Renewed Covenant by many.

Nihilo
June 21st, 2017, 11:38 PM
...Paul wrote that "THE JUST SHALL LIVE BY FAITH" Romans 1:17

Thank you Robert Pate.

Please see the following verses. The scripture references are provided here. The concordance search is the just shall live by faith.

Romans 1:17
Galatians 3:11
Hebrews 10:38
Habakkuk 2:4
And in what are we to have faith? Romans 10:9 (KJV)

beameup
June 21st, 2017, 11:45 PM
And in what are we to have faith? Romans 10:9 (KJV)
It's WHO, not "what".

Nihilo
June 22nd, 2017, 12:10 AM
It's WHO, not "what".Read, the verse. And then, take it up with PAUL, who wrote it. Romans 10:9 (KJV)

jamie
June 22nd, 2017, 07:59 AM
This is why Paul wrote that "THE JUST SHALL LIVE BY FAITH" Romans 1:17 and not by rules, laws or religion.


Paul said he lived by the Spirit's law. Why do you reject truth?

"For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death."
(Romans 8:2)

Robert Pate
June 22nd, 2017, 08:14 AM
Nope, it did not signify "the end of the Old Covenant", but instead the very opposite: it inaugurated the Covenant in full force because no one fully understood it until Messiah came to expound it all; that is why it is called the Renewed Covenant by many.

The Old Covenant, the law and the Jewish religion have been abolished, Hebrews 8:6. And has passed away, Hebrews 8:13.

The new covenant is to live by the Holy Spirit and not by the letter of the law. Jesus is the new covenant.

Robert Pate
June 22nd, 2017, 08:16 AM
Paul said he lived by the Spirit's law. Why do you reject truth?

"For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death."
(Romans 8:2)

The law of the Spirit of life in Christ is the Gospel.

jamie
June 22nd, 2017, 08:21 AM
The law of the Spirit of life in Christ is the Gospel.


Not true. Why do you reject truth?

The law of the Spirit is the law the Spirit wrote with his own finger.

It's the law the Father reiterated in Revelation 22:14.

Jacob
June 22nd, 2017, 11:51 AM
And in what are we to have faith? Romans 10:9 (KJV)Shalom.

Faith in God and faith in Jesus.

For faith in God see



Mark 11:22
Galatians 3:26
Philippians 3:9
Colossians 2:12
1 Thessalonians 1:8
Hebrews 6:1
1 Peter 1:21


Mark 11:22 KJV - And Jesus answering saith unto them, Have faith in God.

Galatians 3:26 KJV - For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

Philippians 3:9 KJV - And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:

Colossians 2:12 KJV - Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.

1 Thessalonians 1:8 KJV - For from you sounded out the word of the Lord not only in Macedonia and Achaia, but also in every place your faith to God-ward is spread abroad; so that we need not to speak any thing.

Hebrews 6:1 KJV - Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,

1 Peter 1:21 KJV - Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.

For faith in Jesus see



Acts 20:21
Romans 3:22
Galatians 3:22
Galatians 3:26
Ephesians 1:15
Colossians 1:4
1 Timothy 3:13
2 Timothy 3:15
Philemon 1:5


Acts 20:21 KJV - Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.

Romans 3:22 KJV - Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:

Galatians 3:22 KJV - But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.

Galatians 3:26 KJV - For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

Ephesians 1:15 KJV - Wherefore I also, after I heard of your faith in the Lord Jesus, and love unto all the saints,

Colossians 1:4 KJV - Since we heard of your faith in Christ Jesus, and of the love which ye have to all the saints,

1 Timothy 3:13 KJV - For they that have used the office of a deacon well purchase to themselves a good degree, and great boldness in the faith which is in Christ Jesus.

2 Timothy 3:15 KJV - And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

Philemon 1:5 KJV - Hearing of thy love and faith, which thou hast toward the Lord Jesus, and toward all saints;

Shalom.

Jacob

daqq
June 22nd, 2017, 03:38 PM
The Old Covenant, the law and the Jewish religion have been abolished, Hebrews 8:6. And has passed away, Hebrews 8:13.

The new covenant is to live by the Holy Spirit and not by the letter of the law. Jesus is the new covenant.

How can that be true when all three synoptic authors have the Messiah quoting Exodus 23:20a and applying the passage to Yohanan the Immerser? If Yohanan Eliyahu is the Messenger of Exodus 23:20-26 your whole theology is junked because the Torah was not even fully operational until the Master cried out, "It is finished", (his holy Testimony, which if you DO, will cause you to understand, and will likewise cause to you properly walk Torah, and thus the Master will have delivered you by his holy Testimony found in the Gospel accounts).