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Truster
April 25th, 2017, 07:51 AM
Some time ago I started keep some verses on file when I came upon specific threatenings to the wicked. The wicked are the unjust, the unregenerate, hypocrites, fools and the like. I tend to cut and paste one or two when commenting on disasters that have fallen by judgement. Man gives glory to the power of nature, but the sons give glory to the Father and the Son who is the first cause and sustainer of all.

Terror, war, pestilence, earthquakes and plague are instruments in the hands of the Almighty for the destruction of the wicked. He also uses the wicked to destroy the wicked. Nobody is safe when He strikes and He never misses a target.

“Shall there be evil in the city, and Yah Veh hath not worked it?”

Know for an absolute fact that when evil befalls you it is at His hand. If you are His it will be for correction. If you are not His then He will either be calling you or hardening you. Either way He will be glorified.

"I will render vengeance to mine enemies, and will reward them that hate me."

If you hate the truth then you hate Him who is The Truth and you are an enemy.

Truster
April 25th, 2017, 09:04 AM
As you accuse and curse the saints, you accuse and curse the Master:

"He fell to the ground and heard a voice saying to him, "Saul! Saul! Why are you persecuting me?"

“According to their deeds, accordingly he will repay fury to his adversaries.”

Truster
April 26th, 2017, 04:05 AM
Yah Veh hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil. Prov 16:4

Poole:
Hath made; or, hath wrought or doth work; for the Hebrews express the present as well as the past tense by this tense: he ordereth or disposeth; for this may be understood either of the works of creation or of providence.

All things, and especially all men, for himself; for his own service and glory; for the discovery and illustration of his own wisdom, power, goodness, truth, justice, and his other most glorious perfections.

The wicked, wilful, unrepentant and impenitent sinners,
Wicked, immoral, the idolatrous.

Idols today include professional sports, entertainment, cars, homes, family, children, fashion, careers and so on. An idol is anything you serve and devote yourself, your time and your money to. Your idol is always at the forefront of your mind where Messiah and the perfections of Deity should be.

Epoisses
April 26th, 2017, 07:21 AM
Nothing like a good ole' fire and brimstone thread where God pours his wrath out on the stupid and ignorant. On one occasion a soldier of the Lord who went by the name of 'Samson' was green-lighted for termination of undesirables. In one day he killed a thousand men with his bare hands which is just a small sample of what these soldiers are capable of when they receive orders from on high.

Truster
April 26th, 2017, 07:34 AM
Nothing like a good ole' fire and brimstone thread where God pours his wrath out on the stupid and ignorant. On one occasion a soldier of the Lord who went by the name of 'Samson' was green-lighted for termination of undesirables. In one day he killed a thousand men with his bare hands which is just a small sample of what these soldiers are capable of when they receive orders from on high.

A few latter day men who were weapons of destruction in His hand.

Pol Pot, Mao Zedong, Lenin, Stalin and all US Presidents:

Attila the Hun The Latin statement Ego sum Attila flagellum Dei , which means I am Attila, the scourge of God ,

Truster
April 26th, 2017, 10:02 AM
"The fear of the wicked, it shall come upon him:"

The fear or dread of wicked men is the harbinger of vengeance. Whatever he fears shall in some way happen. To him or loved ones.

The life of the wicked is precarious. The health of the wicked is precarious and the health of the wicked is precarious. The greater the dread the closer the judgement.

What is your fear today...


Psalm 73: 18-19 Surely thou didst set them in smooth places: thou castest them down to ruins. How are they brought into desolation, as in a blink! In consuming, they are consumed with terrors.

Epoisses
April 27th, 2017, 03:03 PM
A few latter day men who were weapons of destruction in His hand.

Pol Pot, Mao Zedong, Lenin, Stalin and all US Presidents:

Attila the Hun The Latin statement Ego sum Attila flagellum Dei , which means I am Attila, the scourge of God ,

What about the English and German leaders of the last century? Afraid to mention them you wuss!!!

Truster
April 27th, 2017, 03:10 PM
What about the English and German leaders of the last century? Afraid to mention them you wuss!!!

Why should I be afraid to mention them? These are just examples and not a hall of fame. Truth be known that all these were just instruments in the hand of the Almighty. They are not famous, just infamous.


Terror and war is a sword in the hands of the Eternal Almighty. The Almighty uses the wicked to slay the wicked.

Truster
April 27th, 2017, 03:32 PM
But the wicked are like the troubled sea, when it cannot rest, whose waters expel filth and mire. There is no shalom, saith my Elohim, to the wicked.


But the wicked are like the troubled sea, when it cannot rest, whose waters cast up mire and dirt.
Their minds are restless, being perpetually hurried and tormented with their own lusts and passions, and with the horror of their guilt, and the dread of the Divine vengeance due unto them, and ready to come upon them. MP


There is no peace, saith my God, to the wicked.
Though they may have as great a share of prosperity as the best of men have, as appears from Psalm 37:35 73:3, &c.; Ecclesiastes 8:14 9:2; yet they have no share in this inward, and spiritual, and everlasting peace. MP

Epoisses
April 27th, 2017, 04:20 PM
But the wicked are like the troubled sea, when it cannot rest, whose waters expel filth and mire. There is no shalom, saith my Elohim, to the wicked.


But the wicked are like the troubled sea, when it cannot rest, whose waters cast up mire and dirt.
Their minds are restless, being perpetually hurried and tormented with their own lusts and passions, and with the horror of their guilt, and the dread of the Divine vengeance due unto them, and ready to come upon them. MP


There is no peace, saith my God, to the wicked.
Though they may have as great a share of prosperity as the best of men have, as appears from Psalm 37:35 73:3, &c.; Ecclesiastes 8:14 9:2; yet they have no share in this inward, and spiritual, and everlasting peace. MP

And you're not the only one who has inward, spiritual and everlasting peace. Some of us have been in the faith for 20,30 or 40 years. Noob in Christ!

Truster
April 27th, 2017, 04:21 PM
And you're not the only one who has inward, spiritual and everlasting peace. Some of us have been in the faith for 20,30 or 40 years. Noob in Christ!

You are of the herd and not the flock.

Epoisses
April 27th, 2017, 04:32 PM
You are of the herd and not the flock.

I'm not of your pack of proud and pompous porcupines postulating preeminence over other plebeians.

Truster
April 27th, 2017, 04:44 PM
I'm not of your pack of proud and pompous porcupines postulating preeminence over other plebeians.

You are the worse kind of all you accuse me of and you know it.

Epoisses
April 27th, 2017, 04:47 PM
You are the worse kind of all you accuse me of and you know it.

Unlike Paul who was afraid to use his liberty in Christ, I use mine to the fullest and if the weak brother gets offended maybe the weak brother needs to grow up.

Truster
April 27th, 2017, 05:21 PM
Unlike Paul who was afraid to use his liberty in Christ, I use mine to the fullest and if the weak brother gets offended maybe the weak brother needs to grow up.

You couldn't offend me if you tried, but you are an offence.

Nanja
April 27th, 2017, 05:41 PM
But all sins that the Elect Sons of God Eph. 1:4-5 shall ever commit, including idolatry, was laid on Christ their Surety Heb. 7:22; Is. 53:6 from Everlasting!

Rom. 4:6-8
6 Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works, 7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered. 8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.


God chastises His Sons!

Heb. 12:6-7
6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. 7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?

Rev. 3:19
As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

Heb 12:7
If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?

Truster
April 27th, 2017, 05:51 PM
But all sins that the Elect Sons of God Eph. 1:4-5 shall ever commit, including idolatry, was laid on Christ their Surety Heb. 7:22; Is. 53:6 from Everlasting!

Rom. 4:6-8
6 Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works, 7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered. 8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.


God chastises His Sons!

Heb. 12:6-7
6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. 7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?

Rev. 3:19
As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

Heb 12:7
If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?

That is why the thread is entitled Elohim's dealing with the wicked.

Epoisses
April 27th, 2017, 07:21 PM
But all sins that the Elect Sons of God Eph. 1:4-5 shall ever commit, including idolatry, was laid on Christ their Surety Heb. 7:22; Is. 53:6 from Everlasting!

Rom. 4:6-8
6 Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works, 7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered. 8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.


God chastises His Sons!

Heb. 12:6-7
6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. 7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?

Rev. 3:19
As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

Heb 12:7
If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?

Christ's shed blood is the propitiation for all sin, elect and non-elect alike but of course you don't believe those verses of scripture because you're a sheep wannabe like Trustless!

Epoisses
April 27th, 2017, 07:22 PM
That is why the thread is entitled Elohim's dealing with the wicked.

What about you Trustless, did Christ die for all men or only the elect?

1Mind1Spirit
April 27th, 2017, 08:39 PM
What about you Trustless, did Christ die for all men or only the elect?

:noid:

ALL.

patrick jane
April 27th, 2017, 08:59 PM
:noid:

ALL.hey monkey

Truster
April 28th, 2017, 01:20 AM
What about you Trustless, did Christ die for all men or only the elect?

He gave Himself as a sacrifice for all those that the Father gave Him and would call to Him. Are all men called to Him?



"No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day". John 6:44


"And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire." Rev 20:15

Truster
April 28th, 2017, 06:46 AM
Elohim is honoured THROUGH the destruction of the vessels fitted for destruction.

Exodus 14:17,18

Epoisses
April 28th, 2017, 07:20 AM
He gave Himself as a sacrifice for all those that the Father gave Him and would call to Him. Are all men called to Him?



"No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day". John 6:44


"And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire." Rev 20:15

That's what I thought you brain-washed porcupine with needles from hell.

And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world. 1John 2:2

For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe. 1Tim. 4:10

Truster
April 28th, 2017, 09:12 AM
That's what I thought you brain-washed porcupine with needles from hell.

And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world. 1John 2:2

For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe. 1Tim. 4:10



Thank you so much for your obvious concern, but I know my redeemer lives and that I shall stand, in my flesh, and see Him.

Truster
April 28th, 2017, 11:42 AM
There is no such thing as an accident. Evil does not possess free will. Evil lands exactly where it is supposed to land. When the Almighty lets loose His arrows they always hit the mark.


"I will heap mischiefs upon them; I will spend Mine arrows upon them". Deut 32:23

"But Elohim shall shoot at them with an arrow; suddenly shall they be wounded". Psalm 64:7

So when evil does fall on you or someone close to you. Ask why?

"There is no peace unto the wicked".

Epoisses
April 28th, 2017, 03:16 PM
Thank you so much for your obvious concern, but I know my redeemer lives and that I shall stand, in my flesh, and see Him.

Catholics and Orthodox are closer to truth than reformed sheep wannabes who will never give Christ the glory for saving sinners. If there was one sin not atoned for then Jesus could not be the savior of anyone, you parrot Presbyterian porcupine.

Truster
April 28th, 2017, 03:29 PM
Catholics and Orthodox are closer to truth than reformed sheep wannabes who will never give Christ the glory for saving sinners. If there was one sin not atoned for then Jesus could not be the savior of anyone, you parrot Presbyterian porcupine.

How dare you insinuate that I am REFORMED I'd rather die. Presbyterian? Raving lunatics. Met one just after I was converted felt like punching his lights out.

The atonement of Messiah is applied to those that the Father gave Him.

Epoisses
April 28th, 2017, 03:33 PM
How dare you insinuate that I am REFORMED I'd rather die. Presbyterian? Raving lunatics. Met one just after I was converted felt like punching his lights out.

The atonement of Messiah is applied to those that the Father gave Him.

Key words the atonement is applied to those who have faith in Christ. Faith is a requirement no matter how you look at it so unbelief will result in a lopping off of the covenant of grace.

Truster
April 28th, 2017, 03:36 PM
Key words the atonement is applied to those who have faith in Christ. Faith is a requirement no matter how you look at it so unbelief will result in a lopping off of the covenant of grace.

Trust(faith) is the result of regeneration and not the cause of it. Trust necessary for justification is the trust OF Messiah. You'll find confirmation of this in Galatians.

Epoisses
April 28th, 2017, 03:37 PM
Trust(faith) is the result of regeneration and not the cause of it. Trust necessary for justification is the trust OF Messiah. You'll find confirmation of this in Galatians.

I never said it wasn't but this has nothing to do with what Christ accomplished on the cross for all of humanity.

Truster
April 29th, 2017, 09:45 AM
I never said it wasn't but this has nothing to do with what Christ accomplished on the cross for all of humanity.

Because He didn't accomplish anything for all humanity, but only for His people.

And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Yah Shua: for he shall save his people from their sins.

Truster
April 30th, 2017, 05:04 AM
Whatever evil the Almighty has purposed to bring down upon those that hate him. He will first give them the fear and dread of the circumstance. Even if the evil is a long time coming, the fear and the dread will be sufficient to ensure that, "there is no peace unto the wicked".


A few translations and notice the blessed contrast!


The fear of the wicked, it shall come upon him: but the desire of the righteous shall be granted.

The fears of the wicked will be fulfilled; the hopes of the godly will be granted.

The evil one is dragged to destruction and hope is given to the righteous.

The feared thing of the wicked it meeteth him, And the desire of the righteous is given.

Epoisses
April 30th, 2017, 05:35 AM
Because He didn't accomplish anything for all humanity, but only for His people.

And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Yah Shua: for he shall save his people from their sins.

Your fight is with Christ and his atonement. May God break your iron forehead with an aluminum bat.

Truster
April 30th, 2017, 06:49 AM
Your fight is with Christ and his atonement. May God break your iron forehead with an aluminum bat.

I have no fight as I have felt and do feel the power of His atonement all day and every day.

Truster
April 30th, 2017, 09:42 AM
Your fight is with Christ and his atonement. May God break your iron forehead with an aluminum bat.

Break iron with aluminium? Very bright remark...

Truster
May 1st, 2017, 11:05 AM
If you find yourself being dealt with, as the wicked are dealt with, you'd better do some in depth searching.


Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the trust; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Yah Shua is in you, except ye be reprobates?

Truster
May 1st, 2017, 03:30 PM
The harshest and most debilitating and frightening spiritual judgement is that of blindness and the inability to hear and understand the truth. First delivered by Isaiah and then passed on and down the line to this generation.

Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed.

Epoisses
May 1st, 2017, 06:27 PM
The harshest and most debilitating and frightening spiritual judgement is that of blindness and the inability to hear and understand the truth. First delivered by Isaiah and then passed on and down the line to this generation.

Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed.

Like the foundational truth of the gospel that Christ's shed blood is the propitiation for all sin that you flat out reject in your blindness.

Truster
May 1st, 2017, 11:44 PM
Like the foundational truth of the gospel that Christ's shed blood is the propitiation for all sin that you flat out reject in your blindness.

I have never, ever rejected that. Try reading my signature, before you make dimwitted statements, but there again, nothing penetrates the understanding of you dimwitted hypocrites.

"Speak not in the ears of a fool: for he will despise the wisdom of thy words."

Truster
May 2nd, 2017, 04:14 PM
There is another dealing that Elohim sometimes uses on a wicked man. The wicked man is taken by complete surprise in the midst of his filthy life. With his sin at full throttle and the flag of independent rebellion flying next to the flag of hatred to all that Messiah represents.

At the very point judgement seems not only due, but over due. Something completely amazing happens. Instead of delivering the judgement the sinner deserves. Elohim delivers a not guilty verdict and delivers, in the blink of the eye, to the dead and corrupting man, a portion of grace.