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Truster
April 18th, 2017, 11:10 PM
Some time ago a guy told me he didnít believe in God. I replied that neither do I and he looked at me in a very confused way, so I added. I donít ďtrustíí in god or godís because I know exactly what the word god means, where it originated, what it meant to the people that used the term god and how it entered the English language via transliteration.


"In the beginning Elohim created the heavens and the earth".

Many years later man created god.

beameup
April 19th, 2017, 02:09 AM
Elohim is plural. There are many "elohim".
God standeth in the congregation of the mighty;
he judgeth among the 'elohiym. - Psalm 82:1 KJV

A Psalm of Asaph.
God has taken his place in the divine council;
in the midst of the 'elohiym he holds judgment:
Psalm 82:1 ESV

Truster
April 19th, 2017, 02:26 AM
Elohim is plural. There are many "elohim".
God standeth in the congregation of the mighty;
he judgeth among the 'elohiym. - Psalm 82:1 KJV

A Psalm of Asaph.
God has taken his place in the divine council;
in the midst of the 'elohiym he holds judgment:
Psalm 82:1 ESV

There is none so blind as those that think they see.

beameup
April 19th, 2017, 02:49 AM
There is none so blind as those that think they see.
In that case, I recommend you get a pair of glasses, so you can clearly SEE YHWH's Scripture.

אֱלֹהִים ʼĕlŰhÓym

Truster
April 19th, 2017, 03:16 AM
When anything or anyone in scripture was named they or it were under authority of the name giver. Adam had been given dominion over all the living creatures The beasts of the earth were brought before him to be named. Adam later named his wife, because she was under his dominion.

Daniel and his three friends were given new names, because they were subjects of Nebuchadnezzar. Jacob was re-named Yisra’El which means Ruled of El. It is the right of parents to name their children and idolaters name their pets. Many children change their name by deed poll in an attempt to throw of parental authority.

“And Elohim said again to Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the sons of Yisra El, Yah Veh Elohim of your fathers, Elohim of Abraham, Elohim of Yischaq, Elohim of Yaaqov, hath sent me unto you: this is my name eternally, and this is my memorial generation to generation".

By renaming Elohim Yah Veh Lord God man was making a statement that the Eternal Almighty was no longer in authority over man, but had now become subject to man.

Truster
April 19th, 2017, 03:18 AM
In that case, I recommend you get a pair of glasses, so you can clearly SEE YHWH's Scripture.

אֱלֹהִים ʼĕlŰhÓym

I admit you have words, but you lack the understanding to recognise the truth.

beameup
April 19th, 2017, 06:03 AM
I admit you have words

Here's a few words for you:
Names of the Almighty in Scripture
EL, ELOAH
ELOHIM
EL SHADDAI
ADONAI
YHWH / YAHWEH / JEHOVAH
YHWH-JIREH
YHWH-RAPHA
YHWH-NISSI
YHWH-M'KADDESH
YHWH-SHALOM
YHWH-ELOHIM
YHWH-TSIDKENU
YHWH-ROHI
YHWH-SHAMMAH
YHWH-SABAOTH
EL ELYON
EL ROI
EL-OLAM
EL-GIBHOR

Truster
April 19th, 2017, 06:38 AM
Here's a few words for you:
Names of the Almighty in Scripture
EL, ELOAH
ELOHIM
EL SHADDAI
ADONAI
YHWH / YAHWEH / JEHOVAH
YHWH-JIREH
YHWH-RAPHA
YHWH-NISSI
YHWH-M'KADDESH
YHWH-SHALOM
YHWH-ELOHIM
YHWH-TSIDKENU
YHWH-ROHI
YHWH-SHAMMAH
YHWH-SABAOTH
EL ELYON
EL ROI
EL-OLAM
EL-GIBHOR

Is that all?

You've cut and paste them and so what? These names are available at the back of any good Bible.

What are you trying to prove? Rhetorical?

Truster
April 20th, 2017, 04:15 AM
Some time ago a guy told me he didnít believe in God. I replied that neither do I and he looked at me in a very confused way, so I added. I donít ďtrustíí in god or godís because I know exactly what the word god means, where it originated, what it meant to the people that used the term god and how it entered the English language via transliteration.


"In the beginning Elohim created the heavens and the earth".

Many years later man created god.

...and later still man created the name Jesus. In 1611 the translators didn't have a letter "J" so they gave the Eternal Son and Saviour the name Iesus. Later that century they came up with Jesus.

"Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved".

stephencbh
April 20th, 2017, 09:35 AM
...and later still man created the name Jesus. In 1611 the translators didn't have a letter "J" so they gave the Eternal Son and Saviour the name Iesus. Later that century they came up with Jesus.

"Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved".

Elohim is plural because God is male and female.

First mention of YHWH is Gen.4:26, they began to call on the name of the Lord. Gen 2,3 mix Lord and Elohim to confuse. Lord is Adam but after he died he took a new name as we all will. Adam is Yahweh.

Jesus is the name Yeshua discovered, it is the name of God, not made up by man but revealed to him.

The J sound is all important and as the didn't have a letter for this sound they created one.

I'm sure many have seen this:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/47/Chirho.svg/170px-Chirho.svg.png

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170420/ea96cfb46810d4013618ba1012133138.png



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Truster
April 20th, 2017, 10:07 AM
Elohim is plural because God is male and female.

First mention of YHWH is Gen.4:26, they began to call on the name of the Lord. Gen 2,3 mix Lord and Elohim to confuse. Lord is Adam but after he died he took a new name as we all will. Adam is Yahweh.

Jesus is the name Yeshua discovered, it is the name of God, not made up by man but revealed to him.

The J sound is all important and as the didn't have a letter for this sound they created one.

I'm sure many have seen this:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/47/Chirho.svg/170px-Chirho.svg.png

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170420/ea96cfb46810d4013618ba1012133138.png



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I couldn't get past the first line. You are an heretic and are atheist.

stephencbh
April 20th, 2017, 10:10 AM
I couldn't get past the first line. You are an heretic and are atheist.

What because I say God is male and female?!

Don't you want a Mother, when you remember Her sweet love you'll be glad.


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Truster
April 20th, 2017, 10:15 AM
What because I say God is male and female?!

Don't you want a Mother, when you remember Her sweet love you'll be glad.


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Heretic.

stephencbh
April 20th, 2017, 10:24 AM
Heretic.

Sexist


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Truster
April 20th, 2017, 10:39 AM
Sexist


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Yes and that is because I know my place and I expect anyone who professes a place in the Fathers will to also understand. You are obviously ignorant of what the scriptures teach on the matter.

stephencbh
April 20th, 2017, 10:45 AM
Yes and that is because I know my place and I expect anyone who professes a place in the Fathers will to also understand. You are obviously ignorant of what the scriptures teach on the matter.

Not ignorant but choosey.

I see Gen.2,3 as Adams excuses and it subjugates women. We are different but equal.

Look at the universe, that which emits light is male, strong and simple. That which reflects light is female, complicated and many faceted.
Neither would be any good without the other.


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stephencbh
April 20th, 2017, 10:47 AM
Sorry, replace complicated with beautiful. (Not being a woman myself....)


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Truster
April 20th, 2017, 10:58 AM
Not ignorant but choosey.

I see Gen.2,3 as Adams excuses and it subjugates women. We are different but equal.

Look at the universe, that which emits light is male, strong and simple. That which reflects light is female, complicated and many faceted.
Neither would be any good without the other.


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Stop waffling.

stephencbh
April 20th, 2017, 11:03 AM
Stop waffling.

Start listening


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Truster
April 20th, 2017, 11:26 AM
How many idiots does it take to mess up and derail a thread?

Wherever truth is spoke Satan always has his henchmen.

Truster
April 21st, 2017, 03:00 AM
...and later still man created the name Jesus. In 1611 the translators didn't have a letter "J" so they gave the Eternal Son and Saviour the name Iesus. Later that century they came up with Jesus.

"Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved".

Men also stripped the scriptures of most names and titles of Deity and a great darkness fell over the earth.

beameup
April 21st, 2017, 03:52 AM
Many years later man created god.

Which god?

Psalm 82:6
I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.
John 10:34-35
Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken
:think:

Truster
April 21st, 2017, 03:53 AM
Which god?

Psalm 82:6
I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.
John 10:34-35
Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken

The word "god". Try and keep up.

beameup
April 21st, 2017, 03:57 AM
The word "god". Try and keep up.
:rotfl: :confused: :dunce:

Truster
April 21st, 2017, 03:59 AM
:rotfl: :confused: :dunce:

Are you really that stupid or is this a disguise. It's a really, really good disguise, but boring.

beameup
April 21st, 2017, 04:02 AM
Are you really that stupid or is this a disguise. It's a really, really good disguise, but boring.

'elohiym is plural
In the beginning 'elohiym created the heaven and the earth.

Truster
April 21st, 2017, 04:29 AM
'elohiym is plural
In the beginning 'elohiym created the heaven and the earth.

If you have a point then state it. If it's OCD then seek help, but whatever it is, sort it.

beameup
April 21st, 2017, 04:50 AM
By renaming Elohim Yah Veh Lord God man was making a statement that the Eternal Almighty was no longer in authority over man, but had now become subject to man.

What kind of unscriptural nonsense is this? :devil:

But the Spirit explicitly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons -- 1 Timothy 4:1

Truster
April 21st, 2017, 04:56 AM
What kind of unscriptural nonsense is this? :devil:

But the Spirit explicitly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons -- 1 Timothy 4:1

You should either try and keep up or leave the field. Is there a responsible adult nearby that could explain these Oh so simple things to you.

Truster
April 21st, 2017, 05:00 AM
PS

"But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of Elohim: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned".

beameup
April 21st, 2017, 09:43 PM
Men also stripped the scriptures of most names and titles of Deity and a great darkness fell over the earth.

You must be using the Jehovah's Witness "New World Translation" :devil:
or some other cultic "Bible", or perhaps you are unfamiliar with "The Bible".:kookoo:
Names of the Almighty in Scripture
EL, ELOAH
ELOHIM
EL SHADDAI
ADONAI
YHWH / YAHWEH / JEHOVAH
YHWH-JIREH
YHWH-RAPHA
YHWH-NISSI
YHWH-M'KADDESH
YHWH-SHALOM
YHWH-ELOHIM
YHWH-TSIDKENU
YHWH-ROHI
YHWH-SHAMMAH
YHWH-SABAOTH
EL ELYON
EL ROI
EL-OLAM
EL-GIBHOR

Truster
April 22nd, 2017, 03:08 AM
You must be using the Jehovah's Witness "New World Translation" :devil:
or some other cultic "Bible", or perhaps you are unfamiliar with "The Bible".:kookoo:
Names of the Almighty in Scripture
EL, ELOAH
ELOHIM
EL SHADDAI
ADONAI
YHWH / YAHWEH / JEHOVAH
YHWH-JIREH
YHWH-RAPHA
YHWH-NISSI
YHWH-M'KADDESH
YHWH-SHALOM
YHWH-ELOHIM
YHWH-TSIDKENU
YHWH-ROHI
YHWH-SHAMMAH
YHWH-SABAOTH
EL ELYON
EL ROI
EL-OLAM
EL-GIBHOR

The fact you seem to love having Satan dancing around on your page says everything I need to know about you. I'm placing you on ignore, because your are a despicable fiend. Who pollutes the page with filthy accusations.

S-word
April 22nd, 2017, 04:24 AM
The fact you seem to love having Satan dancing around on your page says everything I need to know about you. I'm placing you on ignore, because your are a despicable fiend. Who pollutes the page with filthy accusations.

As you have judged, so too you have been judged.

Truster
April 22nd, 2017, 04:54 AM
As you have judged, so too you have been judged.

"But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man".

You should abide by the first rule of holes.

S-word
April 22nd, 2017, 05:08 AM
"But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man".

You should abide by the first rule of holes.

Like all mankind, your body was created from the elements of the earth and will return to those elements, and the mind/spirit that has developed within that lump of clay, which still has the judgemental war raging within that spirit, will be cast back into the refining fires of physical life once more, where a new spirit/mind will develop within the immortal soul, which now activates the self important judgemental person that you are.

Truster
April 22nd, 2017, 05:12 AM
Like all mankind, your body was created from the elements of the earth and will return to those elements, and the mind/spirit that has developed within that lump of clay, which still has the judgemental war raging within that spirit, will be cast back into the refining fires of physical life once more, where a new spirit/mind will develop within the immortal soul, which now activates the self important judgemental person that you are.

Poor, deluded, self justifying, heretic.

If you weren't so tragically and judicially deluded I would laugh.

Repent and trust the evangelism.

PS Your ignorance in reference to Stephen is appalling. You should chop your fingers off to insure that you type no more blasphemies:

"And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell".

S-word
April 22nd, 2017, 06:28 AM
Poor, deluded, self justifying, heretic.

If you weren't so tragically and judicially deluded I would laugh.

Repent and trust the evangelism.

PS Your ignorance in reference to Stephen is appalling. You should chop your fingers off to insure that you type no more blasphemies:

"And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell".

So you believe Stephens statement that it was after His father had died at the age of 205, that Abraham left Haran and entered the land of Canaan, thereby revealing your Ignorance to the Holy Scriptures.

And you believe Stephens statement that Abraham bought his family grave site from Hamor the Father of Shechem, which is in total contradiction to the truth as revealed in your Bible, revealing once more your total ignorance to the scriptures.

And you believe Stephen, who said that the bodies of Jacob and his sons were carried to Shechem and buried there. Of all people, you are the most to be pitied.

The Lord has blinded your eyes that you might not see the truth, He has stopped up your ears so that you cannot hear the truth, and he has made your mind so dull, that even if you were to see or hear the truth, you would be unable to comprehend it.