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Word
April 19th, 2016, 01:17 PM
God is the origin of all life.
In fact, God is life.
God has always existed.

Therefore life has always existed
because God is the origin of life.
God did not create Himself.

Therefore God did not create life.
It always existed.
Because God always existed.

God is a Spirit.
John 4-24 :God is a Spirit:

The Spirit of Life.
God did not create Himself.

Therefore God hence
the Spirit of Life has always existed.
Therefore God is the origin of all life.

Note*** There are no dead spirits.

God did not make Himself come alive.

Is God the Father of all spirits?

jamie
April 19th, 2016, 02:29 PM
Note*** There are no dead spirits.


There are no dead spirits because no spirits have been judged with regard to continued life. The fate of the disobedient spirits will be decided at the Last Day.

patrick jane
April 19th, 2016, 02:42 PM
Word, I see you're struggling with the beginning of all things through God. Yes, God is the Father of all.

Word
April 19th, 2016, 03:40 PM
Word, I see you're struggling with the beginning of all things through God. Yes, God is the Father of all.
God did not create Himself.

For there is no beginning or ending to God.

Therefore life has no beginning or ending.

Therefore it was never created.

God did not create life.

He reproduced it.

He did however create the body or bodies
that contain life.

patrick jane
April 19th, 2016, 03:44 PM
God did not create Himself.

For there is no beginning or ending to God.

Therefore life has no beginning or ending.

Therefore it was never created.

God did not create life.

He reproduced it.

He did however create the body or bodies
that contain life.
You are on the confused list officially

Word
April 19th, 2016, 03:54 PM
You are on the confused list officially

Why are you reading my thread?

Word
April 19th, 2016, 05:50 PM
What was the first word that God spoke?

KingdomRose
April 19th, 2016, 07:44 PM
God is the origin of all life.
In fact, God is life.
God has always existed.

Therefore life has always existed
because God is the origin of life.
God did not create Himself.

Therefore God did not create life.
It always existed.
Because God always existed.

God is a Spirit.
John 4-24 :God is a Spirit:

The Spirit of Life.
God did not create Himself.

Therefore God hence
the Spirit of Life has always existed.
Therefore God is the origin of all life.

Note*** There are no dead spirits.

God did not make Himself come alive.

Is God the Father of all spirits?

Yes, God, Jehovah, is the Father of all spirits. Not all of them remained as He had created them. For example, the angel who became Satan exercised his free will and decided to rebel against Jehovah.

You say "there are no dead spirits." There will be, at the end of Jesus' Thousand-Year Reign, when Satan and his cohorts are destroyed (which is what the symbolic Lake of Fire means).

Word
April 19th, 2016, 07:56 PM
Yes, God, Jehovah, is the Father of all spirits. Not all of them remained as He had created them. For example, the angel who became Satan exercised his free will and decided to rebel against Jehovah.
If this is true that which you have said to me,
then this that is written in your bible is false.

Chapter 3
Verse 9

Whosoever is born of God
doth not commit sin;
for his seed remaineth in him:
and he cannot sin,
because he is born of God.

Word
April 19th, 2016, 07:57 PM
I do not believe God is the Father of all spirits.

Ktoyou
April 19th, 2016, 08:48 PM
Oh well:kookoo:

Word
April 19th, 2016, 08:58 PM
Oh well:kookoo:
How much do you love Jesus?

keypurr
April 19th, 2016, 10:18 PM
Which came first the Chicken (God) or the egg (Life)?

Word
April 19th, 2016, 10:22 PM
Which came first the Chicken (God) or the egg (Life)?
The egg is within the chicken.

Life is within God.

Therefore there is no which came first.

There is however...

which came forth.

Life came forth from God
for God is life.

The egg came forth from the chicken
for the egg is the reproduction of the chicken.

Word
April 19th, 2016, 10:28 PM
God is life.

Life came forth from God.

When He spoke His first word.

What word did God first speak?

In the beginning was the Word
and the Word was with God
and the Word was God.

Word
April 19th, 2016, 10:32 PM
The Word was always in God.

Then He spoke it.

Hence God's Word is God

keypurr
April 19th, 2016, 10:33 PM
The egg is within the chicken.

Life is within God.

Therefore there is no which came first.

There is however...

which came forth.

Life came forth from God
for God is life.

The egg came forth from the chicken
for the egg is the reproduction of the chicken.

OR

The Chicken created the Egg like God created Life.

keypurr
April 19th, 2016, 10:34 PM
The Word was always in God.

Then He spoke it.

Hence God's Word is God

Or the will of God.

Word
April 19th, 2016, 10:44 PM
OR

The Chicken created the Egg like God created Life.

The chicken did not create the egg.

Just as a woman
did not create the baby in her womb.

Word
April 19th, 2016, 10:47 PM
Or the will of God.
The will of God is in His Word.

Hence the will of God came forth from His Word.

keypurr
April 19th, 2016, 10:51 PM
The will of God is in His Word.

Hence the will of God came forth from His Word.

OR the will of God is carried in his word.

Word
April 19th, 2016, 10:53 PM
OR the will of God is carried in his word.
The will of God is His Word.

The Word is the will of God.

Word
April 19th, 2016, 10:55 PM
Anyone
who is born of God
and has the Spirit of the
almighty living Lord God
dwelling within them
is Superior and Greater
without measure
to all those who are not
born of God.

Do you believe this is true?

Lon
April 19th, 2016, 11:06 PM
God did not create Himself.

For there is no beginning or ending to God.
Correct.


Therefore life has no beginning or ending.
Incorrect.


Therefore it was never created.
Pantheism vs. Panentheism. The first is not compatible with Christianity or God's revelation. It tends to be Eastern Mysticism trying to mix and it just doesn't. Oil and water.


God did not create life.
You are conflating. "Life" and "Death" are generally only "physical" attributes. God is Spirit, you said so yourself. Don't be indoctrinated, think longer and for yourself.


He reproduced it.
I'm not eternal. This is completely wrong. I'm a finite being (so are you).

He did however create the body or bodies
that contain life. Again, incompatible with Christianity and God's revelation.

Word
April 19th, 2016, 11:09 PM
Correct.


Incorrect.


Pantheism vs. Panentheism. The first is not compatible with Christianity or God's revelation. It tends to be Eastern Mysticism trying to mix and it just doesn't. Oil and water.


You are conflating. "Life" and "Death" are generally only "physical" attributes. God is Spirit, you said so yourself. Don't be indoctrinated, think longer and for yourself.

I'm not eternal. This is completely wrong. I'm a finite being (so are you).
Again, incompatible with Christianity and God's revelation.

Do you really believe all this you have said to me?

Oh and I said God is a Spirit. Not God is Spirit.

And most of what you said is incorrect.

It would help your position if you would prove anything
you say first before you claim you are right and I am wrong.

Someone else said God is Spirit and for their sake we went with it.

But originally I posted...God is a Spirit.

keypurr
April 19th, 2016, 11:12 PM
Anyone
who is born of God
and has the Spirit of the
almighty living Lord God
dwelling within them
is Superior and Greater
without measure
to all those who are not
born of God.

Do you believe this is true?

Are we all gods?

I would assume that the chosen would be favored.

I enjoy your posts friend, but it is late here in New England and I am an old man that needs his sleep. God bless

Word
April 19th, 2016, 11:15 PM
Are we all gods?

I would assume that the chosen would be favored.

I enjoy your posts friend, but it is late here in New England and I am an old man that needs his sleep. God bless
You have a great day tomorrow.

And if I can help you in the name of Jesus
you let me know. I will do so for you.

Word
April 19th, 2016, 11:19 PM
Are we all gods?



I am not a god nor am I God.

Word
April 19th, 2016, 11:20 PM
I would assume that the chosen would be favored.

It depends upon the purpose they have been chosen.

Lon
April 19th, 2016, 11:46 PM
Do you really believe all this you have said to me?
:Plain:


Oh and I said God is a Spirit. Not God is Spirit.
Again, incompatible with Christianity. This is a Christian website.


And most of what you said is incorrect.
Not according to Christianity. Against any particular other religion? Sure...

It would help your position if you would prove anything
I can't prove it to a Hindu or a Mormon. We have different books and religions and fundamentally disagree. It is no small thing.

you say first before you claim you are right and I am wrong.
Sure I did. This is a "Christian" website. The ONLY thing you need to hear is where Christians are adamant against what is said. You've already gotten a bit of that and mine was additional.

Someone else said God is Spirit and for their sake we went with it.

But originally I posted...God is a Spirit.
He is Spirit period.

Word
April 19th, 2016, 11:55 PM
Quote Originally Posted by Word View Post
Oh and I said God is a Spirit. Not God is Spirit.


Again, incompatible with Christianity. This is a Christian website.
It is written in the Book of John in the KIng James Bible.

God is a Spirit.

Now I do not need to read it from a book to know that God is A Spirit.

In fact God is Seven Spirits.

I know God is seven Spirits because
they all live in me and I live in them.

Word
April 20th, 2016, 12:00 AM
The Spirit of Life.

The Spirit of Wisdom.

The Spirit of Faith.

The Spirit of Holiness.

The Spirit of Glory.

The Spirit of Grace.

The Spirit of Prophecy.

They are one.

The Spirit of truth.

Word
April 20th, 2016, 12:03 AM
They are the seven Spirits of God
sent forth into the earth as written in the book of Revelation.

I know them all.
I have fellowship with them everyday.

They speak to me.

They guide me.

They teach me.

They correct me.

They protect me.

They love me.

Word
April 20th, 2016, 12:07 AM
They make me Lord over all my adversaries.

They are the treasure and love of my heart my mind and my soul
and everything I am or will be.

They always have my
undivided attention night and day.

Lon
April 20th, 2016, 12:53 AM
Oh and I said God is a Spirit. Not God is Spirit.
It is written in the Book of John in the KIng James Bible.
God is a Spirit.
John 4:24 πνεῦμα ὁ Θεός

Now I do not need to read it from a book to know that God is A Spirit.
I'm okay with translations, just not those who press them beyond their intention.


In fact God is Seven Spirits.

I know God is seven Spirits because
they all live in me and I live in them.
A bit vague from scripture as to what exactly this means BUT you'd have a HARD time convincing me God is a Spirit after such an admission, no? God is Spirit allows for the differences without getting caught up in heresy or lack of clarity, imho.

Word
April 20th, 2016, 05:42 PM
Which came first the Chicken or the egg?
I was talking to God this morning and
He told me to tell you
that He created the chicken, male and female.
The hen was created already with the eggs within her
then she has to set on the eggs to give birth to them
after the rooster and her are joined in union.
Therefore God created the hen with the unfertilized eggs within her.
So there is no first with the chicken or the egg.
They were created at the same time.

Word
April 20th, 2016, 05:44 PM
So when anyone ask you
which came first the chicken or the egg?

The correct answer is

Neither one.

Word
April 20th, 2016, 06:28 PM
So when anyone ask you
which came first the chicken or the egg?

The correct answer is

Neither one.

Or both.

Take your pick.

The glass is half empty
or the glass is half full.

Word
April 20th, 2016, 08:24 PM
God
is alive
and has alway been alive.

Therefore life has always been
therefore it was never created.

God who is life and was always alive
did not create Himself
which is life.

Not only did life have
no beginning it has no end.

It always was and is and is to come.

God did not create the life that
was and is and is to come within Him.

It has always
been

God is the origin of all life.

Now where do you think
that life came from?

It came from life.

The life of God.

God is life!

Word
April 20th, 2016, 08:42 PM
To all those who say God created life.

To create anything would mean that it did not exist

before it was created.

Now we all know God has always existed.

Therefore if you believe God created life then

you have to believe that
there was no life till God created it.

That would mean you have
to believe God had no life.

Not even in Him.

Not till He created it.

heir
April 20th, 2016, 09:37 PM
God did not create Himself.

For there is no beginning or ending to God.

Therefore life has no beginning or ending.

Therefore it was never created.

God did not create life.

He reproduced it.

He did however create the body or bodies
that contain life.

Colossians 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

keypurr
April 20th, 2016, 09:53 PM
You have a great day tomorrow.

And if I can help you in the name of Jesus
you let me know. I will do so for you.

Thank you, we all need to help each other.

keypurr
April 20th, 2016, 09:58 PM
I am not a god nor am I God.

Joh_10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?

Word
April 20th, 2016, 10:00 PM
Colossians 1:16 all things were created by him, and for him:Who is Him and Him?

Is life a thing?

Word
April 20th, 2016, 10:02 PM
Joh_10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?I am not one of them. I am with Jesus.

keypurr
April 20th, 2016, 10:16 PM
Or both.

Take your pick.

The glass is half empty
or the glass is half full.

My glass is half full. So I study more to fill it up.

keypurr
April 20th, 2016, 10:24 PM
I am not one of them. I am with Jesus.

Is the seed in you? Are we not the sons of God?

Word
April 20th, 2016, 10:28 PM
My glass is half full. So I study more to fill it up.

Studying cannot increase your Spirit.

It is a waste of time.

That is for me it is a waste of time.

Word
April 20th, 2016, 10:29 PM
Is the seed in you? Are we not the sons of God?
Yes I am born of God.

No, you all are not the sons of God.

keypurr
April 20th, 2016, 11:04 PM
Yes I am born of God.

No, you all are not the sons of God.

You should go back and read more.

The spirit will guide you if you let it.

Word
April 20th, 2016, 11:21 PM
You should go back and read more.

The spirit will guide you if you let it.

Where did the spirit guide you too?

Word
April 20th, 2016, 11:34 PM
Are you trying to tell me that the Spirit of God
uses a book to guide you into all truth?

And it gives you reading assignments and homework?

Do you have to take pop quizzes?

keypurr
April 21st, 2016, 11:33 PM
Are you trying to tell me that the Spirit of God
uses a book to guide you into all truth?

And it gives you reading assignments and homework?

Do you have to take pop quizzes?

Yes

No

No

I just have to digest.

I think that I have been chosen to share what he has allowed me to see.

With all your knowledge why do you not bring peace to this world?

Lazy afternoon
April 22nd, 2016, 12:17 AM
The Word was always in God.

Then He spoke it.

Hence God's Word is God

Yep.

LA

Word
April 22nd, 2016, 05:49 PM
Yes



With all your knowledge why do you not bring peace to this world?
Because Jesus brought a sword.
However the peace of God
shall be upon the world to come...
the new Earth.

keypurr
April 22nd, 2016, 10:23 PM
Studying cannot increase your Spirit.

It is a waste of time.

That is for me it is a waste of time.

I disagree, one should NEVER stop seeking truth in his words.

Word
April 22nd, 2016, 10:37 PM
I disagree, one should NEVER stop seeking truth in his words.

If you have to seek the truth then you have not received the truth?

You have not received the truth.

That is why you do not know it.

Word
April 22nd, 2016, 10:38 PM
All truth is in the Spirit of God.

If the Spirit of God
be in you then you have all truth in you.

Simple as that!

This is a very good way
to know you are not born of God.

Because you have not the truth

that is why you are trying to find it.

keypurr
April 23rd, 2016, 10:13 PM
All truth is in the Spirit of God.

If the Spirit of God
be in you then you have all truth in you.

Simple as that!

This is a very good way
to know you are not born of God.

Because you have not the truth

that is why you are trying to find it.

Who has ALL truth besides Christ and his God?

Word
April 24th, 2016, 01:10 AM
Who has ALL truth besides Christ and his God?

Anyone they give it too.

Word
April 24th, 2016, 10:19 PM
At one time Satan had it.

But not any more.

He lost it.

Who can tell me how he lost it?

keypurr
April 26th, 2016, 10:09 PM
Anyone they give it too.


You do not seem to have it.

Word
April 27th, 2016, 12:08 PM
You do not seem to have it.

I have more than it.

KingdomRose
April 27th, 2016, 12:26 PM
God is the origin of all life.
In fact, God is life.
God has always existed.

Therefore life has always existed
because God is the origin of life.
God did not create Himself.

Therefore God did not create life.
It always existed.
Because God always existed.

God is a Spirit.
John 4-24 :God is a Spirit:

The Spirit of Life.
God did not create Himself.

Therefore God hence
the Spirit of Life has always existed.
Therefore God is the origin of all life.

Note*** There are no dead spirits.

God did not make Himself come alive.

Is God the Father of all spirits?

God always existed, therefore life always existed, but not in all of the FORMS that existed after God decided to create. God is the Father of all spirits, yes. And all of his intelligent creations were given free will by Him. Some chose to rebel. They WILL BE dead spirits after the Thousand-Year Reign of Christ.

KingdomRose
April 27th, 2016, 12:36 PM
If this is true that which you have said to me,
then this that is written in your bible is false.

Chapter 3
Verse 9

Whosoever is born of God
doth not commit sin;
for his seed remaineth in him:
and he cannot sin,
because he is born of God.

I don't know what Bible version you are using, but I have a couple versions here that are a bit clearer on the meaning of I John 3:9.

There are two types of sin. The sin we inherited from Adam, which we are not responsible for, and DELIBERATE sin, which we are held accountable for. That means that if we PRACTICE sin, willfully, we will be severely dealt with. Someone who loves God would not deliberately practice gross sins.

"No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed abides in him." (New American Standard Bible)

KingdomRose
April 27th, 2016, 12:38 PM
Anyone
who is born of God
and has the Spirit of the
almighty living Lord God
dwelling within them
is Superior and Greater
without measure
to all those who are not
born of God.

Do you believe this is true?

No. No human is superior to another.

KingdomRose
April 27th, 2016, 12:42 PM
Joh_10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?

He was quoting from a scripture in the Tanakh that was referring to human judges. Anyone in authority was looked at as a god back in ancient times.

KingdomRose
April 27th, 2016, 12:54 PM
If you have to seek the truth then you have not received the truth?

You have not received the truth.

That is why you do not know it.

Sorry, guy, you are off-track. The Bible is our guide, inspired of God so that we may know what Truth is and how to conduct ourselves. Paul wrote to Timothy:

"Be diligent to present yourself approved to God as a workman who does not need to be ashamed, accurately handling the word of truth." (2 Timothy 2:15, NASB)

The King James Version says it even more succinctly:

"STUDY to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth."


It seems obvious from this that we must always study. We all need to know how to teach the truth about God, and we gain this only through continued examination of His Word.

truthjourney
April 27th, 2016, 12:59 PM
Word,what you have is a bad case of pride, boasting and a haughty spirit. And it's so obvious for all to see because out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks.

Word
April 27th, 2016, 05:07 PM
Word,what you have is a bad case of pride, boasting and a haughty spirit. And it's so obvious for all to see because out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks.
Did God tell you this about me?

If not who said this about me to you?

Word
April 27th, 2016, 05:10 PM
No. No human is superior to another.
Now that is funny.

Not only is there superiority
among humans in the spirit but also in the physical.

To make such a statement as you have made
is a lack of superiority
among the wise.

Where I come from we would call you stupid.

Actually let me rephrase that...
where I come from no one is that stupid.

Word
April 27th, 2016, 05:14 PM
Sorry, guy, you are off-track. The Bible is our guide, inspired of God so that we may know what Truth is and how to conduct ourselves. Paul wrote to Timothy:

"Be diligent to present yourself approved to God as a workman who does not need to be ashamed, accurately handling the word of truth." (2 Timothy 2:15, NASB)

The King James Version says it even more succinctly:

"STUDY to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth."


It seems obvious from this that we must always study. We all need to know how to teach the truth about God, and we gain this only through continued examination of His Word.
So if I ask you something about the truth
using this formula you have said works for you,
you would be able to answer my questions correctly?

True or false?

Word
April 27th, 2016, 05:16 PM
God always existed, therefore life always existed, but not in all of the FORMS that existed after God decided to create.
Did God create His Spirit?

A. Yes

B. No

Word
April 27th, 2016, 05:21 PM
God is the Father of all spirits
God is the Father of the spirit of the devil.

A. True
B. False

God is the Father of the
spirits of the children of the devil.

A. True
B. False

Word
April 27th, 2016, 05:24 PM
They WILL BE dead spirits after the Thousand-Year Reign of Christ.
How does a spirit die?

And if you believe
a spirit can die then
it had to be born.
Now before you say that
Adam and Eve died it was their bodies
that God created not their spirit.

Word
April 27th, 2016, 05:27 PM
If any of you want to help any of them out
by all means jump right in...
the more the better.

Word
April 27th, 2016, 05:29 PM
Word,what you have is a bad case of pride, boasting and a haughty spirit. And it's so obvious for all to see because out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks.

I would have to say I am very blessed by God.

I am not measured or judged in any way according to your

standard you have set for me.

Besides God's judgment of me will be right and true.

Word
April 27th, 2016, 06:41 PM
Word,what you have is a bad case of pride, boasting and a haughty spirit. And it's so obvious for all to see because out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks.

Here is what I will do for you.

You say I have a
prideful boasting
and a haughty spirit.

I say I am a less
prideful boasting
and a haughty spirit than you.

The Lord God
will judge between you and I.

Winner takes all.

Do you accept
my challenge to
your accusation?

A. Yes

B. No

No reply or
anything other than a

YES

Will be counted
as a NO you will not
honor your own words.

Word
April 27th, 2016, 06:46 PM
Rule number 1 in spiritual warfare.

Do not make any statements
that you will not or cannot honor.

Because just as sure as the devil hates God

and God hates the devil.

In the spirit realm...

You will be required to walk your own talk.

And honor your own talk with your own walk.

And failure to do so will greatly
reduce your standing and welfare in the spirit.

Hence the rule...

the less you say
(especially to them who are superior
and greater in spirit than you)
the better you will fair.

Word
April 27th, 2016, 06:52 PM
You pour souls should reward me
and thank me for teaching you these
great and awesome statues and precepts
of the spirit realm.

Word
April 27th, 2016, 06:57 PM
Rule number 1 in spiritual warfare.

Do not make any statements
that you will not or cannot honor.

Because just as sure as the devil hates God

and God hates the devil.

In the spirit realm...

You will be required to walk your own talk.

And honor your own talk with your own walk.

And failure to do so will greatly
reduce your standing and welfare in the spirit.

Hence the rule...

the less you say
(especially to them who are superior
and greater in spirit than you)
the better you will fair.

This is why Jesus
said this to anyone
who would hear Him...

Matthew 12:37
For by thy words thou shalt be justified,
and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

Word
April 27th, 2016, 07:04 PM
Rule number 2 in spiritual warfare.

Do not start
anything you
cannot finish.

Do not challenge
or make any statements
unless you
can stand before God
and God will accept you
on what you said or did.

If not...you will
pay and you will pay dearly
in the spirit realm.

It will always cost
you more than it is worth.

That brings me to the wise
and old saying among the
great and mighty.

I had rather
say nothing
than say something
worth nothing.

I had rather
do nothing than
do something
worth nothing.

Word
April 27th, 2016, 07:11 PM
The only reason I tell you these things...

I know you will not receive them.

You will reject them as silly and foolishness.

KingdomRose
April 27th, 2016, 07:23 PM
Now that is funny.

Not only is there superiority
among humans in the spirit but also in the physical.

To make such a statement as you have made
is a lack of superiority
among the wise.

Where I come from we would call you stupid.

Actually let me rephrase that...
where I come from no one is that stupid.

You are wrong. God does not look at one human as better than another, or worth more than another. The scripture shows this:

"Peter said, 'I most certainly understand now that God is not one to show partiality, but in every nation the man who fears him and does what is right is welcome to him.'" (Acts 10:34,35, NASB)

See, God does not show partiality. All humans are equal in his eyes.

KingdomRose
April 27th, 2016, 07:24 PM
So if I ask you something about the truth
using this formula you have said works for you,
you would be able to answer my questions correctly?

True or false?

Fire away.

KingdomRose
April 27th, 2016, 07:29 PM
Did God create His Spirit?

A. Yes

B. No

No.

KingdomRose
April 27th, 2016, 07:34 PM
God is the Father of the spirit of the devil.

A. True
B. False

God is the Father of the
spirits of the children of the devil.

A. True
B. False

I thought I already addressed this (in my post #64). God is the Father of the spirit creature that BECAME the Devil after this spirit person decided to rebel against God.

Second question: B. False I assume you mean their personal attitudes and ways of thinking...their "impelling mental inclination," right? What you believe about spirits is not clear. You seem confused.

KingdomRose
April 27th, 2016, 07:43 PM
How does a spirit die?

And if you believe
a spirit can die then
it had to be born.
Now before you say that
Adam and Eve died it was their bodies
that God created not their spirit.

A spirit dies just like anything dies. It ceases to have life within it and if Jehovah chooses not to remember that spirit person, it will forever "sleep." Satan and all his demons, as well as all humans who choose not to side with God and Jesus, will be annihilated---they will die---after Christ's Millennial Reign. All spirit persons were born. They had a beginning, when Jehovah and Jesus created them.

I don't get what you are talking about with Adam and Eve. Their bodies did indeed die. Their mental processes died as well. The "spirit" they had was merely the life force, or, breath that kept them alive.

KingdomRose
April 27th, 2016, 07:46 PM
You pour souls should reward me
and thank me for teaching you these
great and awesome statues and precepts
of the spirit realm.

I think you need medication.:chuckle:

Word
April 27th, 2016, 07:48 PM
I think you need medication.:chuckle:

You are going to get what I think you need.

That is the difference between you and I.

Your words have no power. My words are power.

Word
April 27th, 2016, 07:51 PM
A spirit dies just like anything dies. It ceases to have life within it and if Jehovah chooses not to remember that spirit person, it will forever "sleep." Satan and all his demons, as well as all humans who choose not to side with God and Jesus, will be annihilated---they will die---after Christ's Millennial Reign. All spirit persons were born. They had a beginning, when Jehovah and Jesus created them.

You know all this
you have said to be true...how?

Explain to me how you
know this is all true.

Word
April 27th, 2016, 07:52 PM
I thought I already addressed this (in my post #64). God is the Father of the spirit creature that BECAME the Devil after this spirit person decided to rebel against God.

Second question: B. False I assume you mean their personal attitudes and ways of thinking...their "impelling mental inclination," right? What you believe about spirits is not clear. You seem confused.

You haven't done anything but make a bunch of unproven statements.

Take them 1 by 1 and prove they are the truth.

Then you can claim it as the truth.

Word
April 27th, 2016, 07:54 PM
Here start with this one...

"A spirit dies just like anything dies. It ceases to have life within it and if Jehovah chooses not to remember that spirit person, it will forever "sleep." Satan and all his demons, as well as all humans who choose not to side with God and Jesus, will be annihilated---they will die---after Christ's Millennial Reign."

Prove to us that this is the truth

Word
April 27th, 2016, 07:55 PM
My first rebuttal question
to this nonsense you have stated...

Have you ever died?

A. Yes.

B. No

If not then how would you know what happens
to your spirit after it leaves your body?

I have died and exited from a body.

So I know exactly how it feels and what happens.

You should forget all that nonsense you believe.

But

and I say but...

You are going to find out soon enough the truth.

Word
April 27th, 2016, 07:59 PM
In fact all you poor poor souls
have a great shock coming when you
depart from your body.

It ain't gonna be like they
be preaching and teaching you.

Not even close.

But hey...

You are going to find out soon enough.

Word
April 27th, 2016, 08:02 PM
That's what I like about what I am saying here.

The proof is when you experience it your own self.

That is my proof to you.

You will go through it.

Word
April 27th, 2016, 08:05 PM
I fully understand when Abraham
told the tormented man across
the gulf of fire that sending
someone back from the dead to
preach to his brothers would
not do them any good.

Because I would have
never believed it myself
till I went through it.

So I know you poor poor souls
cannot believe it.

KingdomRose
April 27th, 2016, 08:08 PM
You know all this
you have said to be true...how?

Explain to me how you
know this is all true.

(1) "It is righteous on God's part to repay tribulation to those who make tribulation for you, 7 but, to you who suffer tribulation, relief along with us at the revelation of the Lord Jesus from heaven with his powerful angels 8 in a flaming fire, as he brings vengeance upon those who do not know God and those who do not obey the good news about our Lord Jesus. 9 These very ones will undergo the judicial punishment of everlasting DESTRUCTION from before the Lord and from the glory of his strength." (2 Thessalonians 1:6-9)

Wouldn't you say that "destruction" equals "death"? Isn't that what destruction means? And wouldn't Satan and his demons qualify as among those who do not obey the good news and who make tribulation for others?

(2) "And the Devil who was misleading them [the nations] was hurled into the lake of fire and sulphur....This means the second death, the lake of fire." (Revelation 20:10,14)

It says that the Devil and his spirit demons will be thrown into the lake of fire, which is obviously metaphorical, symbolic language to relate that they will be annihilated. Doesn't the scripture also say that the lake of fire means DEATH? So Satan and all his fallen angels will DIE. They will not be alive any longer.

KingdomRose
April 27th, 2016, 08:11 PM
You haven't done anything but make a bunch of unproven statements.

Take them 1 by 1 and prove they are the truth.

Then you can claim it as the truth.

I believe I have already done that. Show me how I have not shown by scriptures that what I said was true.

Word
April 27th, 2016, 08:12 PM
(1) "It is righteous on God's part to repay tribulation to those who make tribulation for you, 7 but, to you who suffer tribulation, relief along with us at the revelation of the Lord Jesus from heaven with his powerful angels 8 in a flaming fire, as he brings vengeance upon those who do not know God and those who do not obey the good news about our Lord Jesus. 9 These very ones will undergo the judicial punishment of everlasting DESTRUCTION from before the Lord and from the glory of his strength." (2 Thessalonians 1:6-9)

Wouldn't you say that "destruction" equals "death"? Isn't that what destruction means? And wouldn't Satan and his demons qualify as among those who do not obey the good news and who make tribulation for others?

(2) "And the Devil who was misleading them [the nations] was hurled into the lake of fire and sulphur....This means the second death, the lake of fire." (Revelation 20:10,14)

It says that the Devil and his spirit demons will be thrown into the lake of fire, which is obviously metaphorical, symbolic language to relate that they will be annihilated. Doesn't the scripture also say that the lake of fire means DEATH? So Satan and all his fallen angels will DIE. They will not be alive any longer.
This is not worth a rebuttal except to say...
this is not worth a rebuttal.

Word
April 27th, 2016, 08:15 PM
What I think is really funny is all
those poor poor souls who blow themselves up thinking
they will be in paradise and get all those things
they are told they will receive for being a martyr.

Them poor poor souls are in for
a great shock. And all their families
who think they got a free ride to heaven.

If they only knew.

It would have been better for them
if they had never been born.

Word
April 27th, 2016, 08:17 PM
It amazes me how
Satan deceives and sacrifices
the lives and souls of his own children
for such foolishness.
But hey...

They do not belong to me.

Word
April 27th, 2016, 08:19 PM
I believe I have already done that. Show me how I have not shown by scriptures that what I said was true.

This is not worth a rebuttal except to say...
this is not worth a rebuttal.

Who is on first base.

I am on first base.

Who is you.

I am me.

Me who?

Me is on first base.

Who is me?

Me is who is on first base.

Blah blah blah and more blah.

Here we go around in circles.

lol

lol

lol

Word
April 27th, 2016, 08:24 PM
If you let him the devil
will run you around in circles purging you
of any virtue and integrity you may have.

Word
May 8th, 2016, 08:10 AM
My name was predestined to be in The Book of Life.

I had nothing to do with it.

It was written in The Book of Life,

before I was born.

God determined who hears his word.

God determined who believed his word.

God predetermined before I was born that

I would hear his word.

God predetermined before I was born

that I would believe his word.

He already had predetermined that

I would believe his word because He

had predetermined I would hear

his word and believe his word.

To which came to pass,

because God wrote my name in The Book of Life

before the world was created

and I was born.

Grosnick Marowbe
May 8th, 2016, 08:20 AM
My name was predestined to be in The Book of Life.

I had nothing to do with it.

It was written in The Book of Life,

before I was born.

God determined who hears his word.

God determined who believed his word.

God predetermined before I was born that

I would hear his word.

God predetermined before I was born

that I would believe his word.

He already had predetermined that

I would believe his word because He

had predetermined I would hear

his word and believe his word.

To which came to pass,

because God wrote my name in The Book of Life

before the world was created

and I was born.

I'm not certain if this pertains to you? So far, you've failed to impress me, as one who is a true member of the Body of Christ? You claim to be the "spirit of God?" No "real" true Believer would make such a comment.

serpentdove
May 8th, 2016, 07:59 PM
God is the origin of all life.
In fact, God is life.
God has always existed.

Therefore life has always existed
because God is the origin of life.
God did not create Himself.

Therefore God did not create life.
It always existed.
Because God always existed.

God is a Spirit.
John 4-24 :God is a Spirit:

The Spirit of Life.
God did not create Himself.

Therefore God hence
the Spirit of Life has always existed.
Therefore God is the origin of all life.

Note*** There are no dead spirits.

God did not make Himself come alive.

Is God the Father of all spirits?

God is the uncreated creator (Is. 40:28). You show disrespect for this fact ( Rom. 1:25).

"Heb 12:9 Father of spirits. Probably best translated as “Father of our spirits,” it is in contrast to “human fathers” (lit. “fathers of our flesh”)." MacArthur, J., Jr. (Ed.). (1997). The MacArthur Study Bible (electronic ed., p. 1920). Nashville, TN: Word Pub.

As a reminder Word is number 46 on Satan, Inc. (TOL Heretics list) (http://vananne.com/serpentdove/TOL%20Heretics%20List.htm) in "The 'Jesus is not God' people (Non-trinitarians) category. :burnlib:

Word
June 26th, 2016, 01:03 PM
If you want to be wise
then don't do anything stupid.