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Robert Pate
April 19th, 2016, 08:41 AM
Reconciliation does not really cancel out predestination, simply because the Bible does not teach that anyone has ever been predestinated to heaven or to hell. It is a Calvinist fairy tale.

The doctrine of reconciliation is a major part of the Gospel and clearly refutes the Calvinist doctrine of predestination. If God has reconciled the world unto himself by Jesus Christ, then why would anyone need to be predestinated? Answer is... they don't.

Listen to what the Bible says. Not what John Calvin says.

"All things are of God, who has reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and has given unto us the ministry of reconciliation. To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto to them; and has given unto us the word (The Gospel) of reconciliation" 2 Corinthians 5:18, 19.

God is now at peace with the world because of the doing and the dying of Jesus. God now sees ALL THINGS in his Son Jesus Christ.

God is talking, are you listening?

"And having made peace (with the world) through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile ALL THINGS unto himself, by him, I say, whether they be things in the earth or things in heaven. And you that were some times alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now has he reconciled in the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblamable and unreprovable in his sight" Colossians 1:20-22.

If God has reconciled ALL THINGS unto himself by Jesus Christ then what good is Calvinism or any religion? What these scriptures are really saying is that sin, death and the devil have been destroyed, Romans 6:6. As far as God is concerned Jesus has victoriously defeated ALL THINGS, and has reconciled us and the world unto God, Colossians 2:15. All that will receive this offer of reconciliation that has been provided by Jesus Christ can now stand before God in the judgment as perfect and complete "In Christ" Colossians 2:10.

To reject God's offer of reconciliation is to reject God and his Son Jesus Christ. Paul said, "We pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled unto God" 2 Corinthians 5:20.

jamie
April 19th, 2016, 12:07 PM
God is now at peace with the world because of the doing and the dying of Jesus. God now sees ALL THINGS in his Son Jesus Christ.


Oh, good, so we should ignore the warning of God's wrath in the Revelation of Jesus Christ?

Robert Pate
April 19th, 2016, 04:21 PM
Oh, good, so we should ignore the warning of God's wrath in the Revelation of Jesus Christ?

There will be a judgment of believers and unbelievers when Christ returns.

But for now, which is the age of grace, God sees ALL THINGS in his Son Jesus Christ. When Jesus appears there will no chance of salvation. You will either be found to be "In Christ" or you will be found in your sins.

patrick jane
April 19th, 2016, 04:31 PM
Oh, good, so we should ignore the warning of God's wrath in the Revelation of Jesus Christ?
Just go off with the works crowd somewhere

Robert Pate
April 19th, 2016, 04:51 PM
Just go off with the works crowd somewhere

Some people are just not happy with justification by faith apart from the works of the law, Romans 4:2.