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Robert Pate
April 12th, 2016, 08:49 AM
When Jesus was accepted into heaven, we were accepted in him.

Because of the doing and the dying of Jesus we have been MADE perfect and complete "In Christ", Colossians 2:10. Can you accept accept your acceptance? Very few are able to believe this and accept it.

Calvinist are not able to believe this. They want to be predestinated to salvation. Catholics are not able to believe this, they want to participate in their own salvation. Jesus said, "And few their be that find it" Matthew 7:14. Few their be that find it, because few there be that believe it or want it.

Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man can come to the Father but by me" John 14:6. When Jesus entered into heaven he presented to God the Father his righteousness, in your name and on your behalf. It is the only righteousness that God will accept, Romans 3:26. He also presented to God the Father his blood that was shed for the remission of our sins, Hebrews 9:12.

Our salvation has been earned for us by the life, death and resurrection of Jesus. To put it another way we have been bought with a price. Paul said to the Corinthians, "For you are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body and in your Spirit, which are God's" 1 Corinthians 6:20. Salvation is a free gift from God, Ephesians 2:8, but it cost Christ everything. There is no such thing as cheap or free grace.

jamie
April 12th, 2016, 12:25 PM
It is the only righteousness that God will accept, Romans 3:26.



Little children, let no one deceive you. He who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous. (1 John 3:7)

Robert Pate
April 12th, 2016, 02:02 PM
Little children, let no one deceive you. He who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous. (1 John 3:7)

There are two different kinds of righteousness.

There is the righteousness of man and there is the righteousness of God.

I know of some cult members that are probably more righteous than most Christians. Does this mean that they are saved? Of course not.

And then there is the righteousness of God. Jesus was the righteousness of God incarnate in human flesh, Romans 3:21. He was the Lamb of God without spot or blemish.

The Pharisees had the righteousness of man, but they thought that they had the righteousness of God. If you want to know what Jesus thought of them read Matthew the 23rd chapter.

jamie
April 12th, 2016, 02:40 PM
Jesus was the righteousness of God incarnate in human flesh, Romans 3:21.


And we are the righteousness of Jesus incarnate in human flesh. (Ephesians 5:30)

Robert Pate
April 12th, 2016, 03:14 PM
And we are the righteousness of Jesus incarnate in human flesh. (Ephesians 5:30)

No, we are sinners, saved sinners. Paul said that he was "The Chief of Sinners" 1 Timothy 1:15.

We only have the down payment of the Holy Spirit, Romans 8:23.

jamie
April 12th, 2016, 05:32 PM
No, we are sinners, saved sinners. Paul said that he was "The Chief of Sinners" 1 Timothy 1:15.


The term "saved sinners" is an oxymoron, the two terms are mutually exclusive. After conversion we become former sinners.

If a smoker stops smoking they are no longer a smoker, they are a former smoker.

jamie
April 12th, 2016, 05:36 PM
We only have the down payment of the Holy Spirit, Romans 8:23.


And that is enough for the holy spirit to flow from within us like rivers of living water. (John 7:38-39)

Robert Pate
April 13th, 2016, 08:31 AM
The term "saved sinners" is an oxymoron, the two terms are mutually exclusive. After conversion we become former sinners.

If a smoker stops smoking they are no longer a smoker, they are a former smoker.

The Christian is called to live his life before God as a sinner. He never becomes perfect before God's law.

In his eyes and in the eyes of others he is a sinner. In God's eyes he is perfect and complete in Christ, Colossians 2:10.

Robert Pate
April 13th, 2016, 08:32 AM
And that is enough for the holy spirit to flow from within us like rivers of living water. (John 7:38-39)

The living water is the Gospel.

jamie
April 13th, 2016, 08:49 AM
The living water is the Gospel.



"He who believes in Me, as the Scripture has said, out of his heart will flow rivers of living water."

But this He spoke concerning the Spirit, whom those believing in Him would receive for the Holy Spirit was not yet given because Jesus was not yet glorified. (John 7:38-39)

Robert Pate
April 13th, 2016, 03:52 PM
"He who believes in Me, as the Scripture has said, out of his heart will flow rivers of living water."

But this He spoke concerning the Spirit, whom those believing in Him would receive for the Holy Spirit was not yet given because Jesus was not yet glorified. (John 7:38-39)

The apostles received the Holy Spirit on the day of Pentecost. See Acts chapter 2.

jamie
April 13th, 2016, 06:27 PM
The apostles received the Holy Spirit on the day of Pentecost. See Acts chapter 2.


So by Acts 2 Jesus had been glorified. Do you have a question?

patrick jane
April 13th, 2016, 06:43 PM
Our salvation has been earned for us by the life, death and resurrection of Jesus. To put it another way we have been bought with a price. Paul said to the Corinthians, "For you are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body and in your Spirit, which are God's" 1 Corinthians 6:20. Salvation is a free gift from God, Ephesians 2:8, but it cost Christ everything. There is no such thing as cheap or free grace.



Great OP Robert

We are purchased

Ephesians 1:13 KJV - Ephesians 1:14 KJV - Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of His glory

Robert Pate
April 15th, 2016, 08:08 AM
So by Acts 2 Jesus had been glorified. Do you have a question?

Acts chapter 2 is a very important part of the Bible.

It is about how the Gospel gave birth to the New Testament church.